[Script Info] Title: [Events] Format: Layer, Start, End, Style, Name, MarginL, MarginR, MarginV, Effect, Text Dialogue: 0,0:00:10.06,0:00:14.08,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Today I stand before you\Nas a man who lives life to the full Dialogue: 0,0:00:14.10,0:00:15.34,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,in the here and now. Dialogue: 0,0:00:16.58,0:00:18.24,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But for a long time, Dialogue: 0,0:00:18.26,0:00:19.46,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I lived for death. Dialogue: 0,0:00:21.22,0:00:22.84,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I was a young man who believed Dialogue: 0,0:00:22.86,0:00:27.42,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that jihad is to be understood\Nin the language of force and violence. Dialogue: 0,0:00:30.06,0:00:33.30,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I tried to right wrongs\Nthrough power and aggression. Dialogue: 0,0:00:37.24,0:00:41.68,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I had deep concerns\Nfor the suffering of others Dialogue: 0,0:00:42.56,0:00:45.80,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and a strong desire\Nto help and bring relief to them. Dialogue: 0,0:00:48.92,0:00:52.26,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I thought violent jihad was noble, Dialogue: 0,0:00:52.28,0:00:53.62,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,chivalrous Dialogue: 0,0:00:53.64,0:00:54.96,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and the best way to help. Dialogue: 0,0:00:57.44,0:00:59.34,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,At a time when so many of our people -- Dialogue: 0,0:00:59.36,0:01:00.62,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,young people especially -- Dialogue: 0,0:01:00.64,0:01:02.20,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,are at risk of radicalization Dialogue: 0,0:01:03.20,0:01:04.90,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,through groups like al-Qaeda, Dialogue: 0,0:01:04.92,0:01:06.76,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Islamic State and others, Dialogue: 0,0:01:07.68,0:01:09.14,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,when these groups are claiming Dialogue: 0,0:01:09.16,0:01:14.22,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that their horrific brutality\Nand violence are true jihad, Dialogue: 0,0:01:14.24,0:01:18.42,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I want to say that their idea\Nof jihad is wrong -- Dialogue: 0,0:01:18.44,0:01:19.78,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,completely wrong -- Dialogue: 0,0:01:19.80,0:01:21.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,as was mine, then. Dialogue: 0,0:01:23.00,0:01:25.36,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Jihad means to strive to one's utmost. Dialogue: 0,0:01:26.24,0:01:29.26,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It includes exertion and spirituality, Dialogue: 0,0:01:29.28,0:01:30.78,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,self-purification Dialogue: 0,0:01:30.80,0:01:32.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and devotion. Dialogue: 0,0:01:34.28,0:01:37.06,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It refers to positive transformation Dialogue: 0,0:01:37.08,0:01:41.18,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,through learning, wisdom\Nand remembrance of God. Dialogue: 0,0:01:41.20,0:01:44.44,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The word jihad stands\Nfor all those meanings as a whole. Dialogue: 0,0:01:46.72,0:01:51.14,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Jihad may at times\Ntake the form of fighting, Dialogue: 0,0:01:51.16,0:01:52.36,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but only sometimes, Dialogue: 0,0:01:53.00,0:01:54.72,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,under strict conditions, Dialogue: 0,0:01:56.00,0:01:57.96,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,within rules and limits. Dialogue: 0,0:01:59.64,0:02:00.86,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,In Islam, Dialogue: 0,0:02:00.88,0:02:05.88,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the benefit of an act must outweigh\Nthe harm or hardship it entails. Dialogue: 0,0:02:07.04,0:02:08.78,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,More importantly, Dialogue: 0,0:02:08.80,0:02:13.54,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the verses in the Koran\Nthat are connected to jihad or fighting Dialogue: 0,0:02:13.56,0:02:19.14,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,do not cancel out the verses\Nthat talk about forgiveness, Dialogue: 0,0:02:19.16,0:02:20.46,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,benevolence Dialogue: 0,0:02:20.48,0:02:21.68,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,or patience. Dialogue: 0,0:02:25.12,0:02:29.70,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But now I believe that there are\Nno circumstances on earth Dialogue: 0,0:02:29.72,0:02:32.30,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,where violent jihad is permissible, Dialogue: 0,0:02:32.32,0:02:35.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,because it will lead to greater harm. Dialogue: 0,0:02:37.60,0:02:40.10,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But now the idea of jihad\Nhas been hijacked. Dialogue: 0,0:02:40.12,0:02:43.46,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It has been perverted\Nto mean violent struggle Dialogue: 0,0:02:43.48,0:02:46.46,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,wherever Muslims\Nare undergoing difficulties, Dialogue: 0,0:02:46.48,0:02:48.38,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and turned into terrorism Dialogue: 0,0:02:48.40,0:02:51.46,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,by fascistic Islamists like al-Qaeda, Dialogue: 0,0:02:51.48,0:02:53.04,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Islamic State and others. Dialogue: 0,0:02:54.08,0:02:56.06,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But I have come to understand Dialogue: 0,0:02:56.08,0:03:00.02,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that true jihad\Nmeans striving to the utmost Dialogue: 0,0:03:00.04,0:03:03.40,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to strengthen and live\Nthose qualities which God loves: Dialogue: 0,0:03:04.24,0:03:06.58,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,honesty, trustworthiness, Dialogue: 0,0:03:06.60,0:03:08.70,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,compassion, benevolence, Dialogue: 0,0:03:08.72,0:03:10.62,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,reliability, respect, Dialogue: 0,0:03:10.64,0:03:12.02,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,truthfulness -- Dialogue: 0,0:03:12.04,0:03:15.16,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,human values that so many of us share. Dialogue: 0,0:03:18.16,0:03:20.02,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I was born in Bangladesh, Dialogue: 0,0:03:20.04,0:03:21.47,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but grew up mostly in England. Dialogue: 0,0:03:22.28,0:03:23.52,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And I went to school here. Dialogue: 0,0:03:24.28,0:03:26.58,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,My father was an academic, Dialogue: 0,0:03:26.60,0:03:28.68,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and we were in the UK through his work. Dialogue: 0,0:03:30.16,0:03:34.64,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,In 1971 we were in Bangladesh\Nwhen everything changed. Dialogue: 0,0:03:36.04,0:03:39.58,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The War of Independence\Nimpacted upon us terribly, Dialogue: 0,0:03:39.60,0:03:41.46,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,pitting family against family, Dialogue: 0,0:03:41.48,0:03:43.18,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,neighbor against neighbor. Dialogue: 0,0:03:43.20,0:03:46.06,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And at the age of 12 I experienced war, Dialogue: 0,0:03:46.08,0:03:47.68,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,destitution in my family, Dialogue: 0,0:03:48.52,0:03:51.76,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the deaths of 22\Nof my relatives in horrible ways, Dialogue: 0,0:03:52.76,0:03:55.56,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,as well as the murder of my elder brother. Dialogue: 0,0:03:58.84,0:04:00.60,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I witnessed killing ... Dialogue: 0,0:04:02.80,0:04:05.62,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,animals feeding on corpses in the streets, Dialogue: 0,0:04:05.64,0:04:07.38,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,starvation all around me, Dialogue: 0,0:04:07.40,0:04:09.54,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,wanton, horrific violence -- Dialogue: 0,0:04:09.56,0:04:10.76,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,senseless violence. Dialogue: 0,0:04:14.08,0:04:15.82,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I was a young man, Dialogue: 0,0:04:15.84,0:04:18.78,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,teenager, fascinated by ideas. Dialogue: 0,0:04:18.80,0:04:20.62,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I wanted to learn, Dialogue: 0,0:04:20.64,0:04:22.69,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but I could not go to school\Nfor four years. Dialogue: 0,0:04:24.56,0:04:26.02,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,After the War of Independence, Dialogue: 0,0:04:26.04,0:04:28.52,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,my father was put in prison\Nfor two and a half years, Dialogue: 0,0:04:29.64,0:04:32.16,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and I used to visit him\Nevery week in prison, Dialogue: 0,0:04:32.92,0:04:34.40,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and homeschooled myself. Dialogue: 0,0:04:35.88,0:04:38.44,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,My father was released in 1973 Dialogue: 0,0:04:39.32,0:04:41.90,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and he fled to England as a refugee, Dialogue: 0,0:04:41.92,0:04:43.16,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and we soon followed him. Dialogue: 0,0:04:44.52,0:04:46.18,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I was 17. Dialogue: 0,0:04:46.20,0:04:48.66,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So these experiences gave me Dialogue: 0,0:04:48.68,0:04:52.48,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,a sharp awareness of the atrocities\Nand injustices in the world. Dialogue: 0,0:04:54.12,0:04:55.94,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And I had a strong desire -- Dialogue: 0,0:04:55.96,0:04:57.98,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,a very keen, deep desire -- Dialogue: 0,0:04:58.00,0:04:59.22,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to right wrongs Dialogue: 0,0:04:59.24,0:05:00.91,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and help the victims of oppression. Dialogue: 0,0:05:02.40,0:05:04.34,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,While studying at college in the UK, Dialogue: 0,0:05:04.36,0:05:09.84,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I met others who showed me\Nhow I could channel that desire Dialogue: 0,0:05:10.52,0:05:12.24,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and help through my religion. Dialogue: 0,0:05:13.52,0:05:14.82,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And I was radicalized -- Dialogue: 0,0:05:14.84,0:05:18.28,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,enough to consider violence correct, Dialogue: 0,0:05:19.44,0:05:21.80,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,even a virtue under certain circumstances. Dialogue: 0,0:05:24.12,0:05:27.34,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So I became involved\Nin the jihad in Afghanistan. Dialogue: 0,0:05:27.36,0:05:31.92,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I wanted to protect the Muslim Afghan\Npopulation against the Soviet army. Dialogue: 0,0:05:32.76,0:05:35.14,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And I thought that was jihad: Dialogue: 0,0:05:35.16,0:05:36.66,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,my sacred duty, Dialogue: 0,0:05:36.68,0:05:38.40,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,which would be rewarded by God. Dialogue: 0,0:05:43.68,0:05:45.68,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I became a preacher. Dialogue: 0,0:05:47.76,0:05:52.86,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I was one of the pioneers\Nof violent jihad in the UK. Dialogue: 0,0:05:52.88,0:05:54.38,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I recruited, Dialogue: 0,0:05:54.40,0:05:56.08,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I raised funds, I trained. Dialogue: 0,0:05:57.16,0:05:59.70,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I confused true jihad Dialogue: 0,0:05:59.72,0:06:03.72,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,with this perversion\Nas presented by the fascist Islamists -- Dialogue: 0,0:06:05.48,0:06:08.54,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,these people who use the idea of jihad Dialogue: 0,0:06:08.56,0:06:12.44,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to justify their lust for power,\Nauthority and control on earth: Dialogue: 0,0:06:13.54,0:06:17.86,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,a perversion perpetuated today\Nby fascist Islamist groups Dialogue: 0,0:06:17.88,0:06:20.76,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,like al-Qaeda, Islamic State and others. Dialogue: 0,0:06:22.24,0:06:24.08,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,For a period of around 15 years, Dialogue: 0,0:06:24.08,0:06:27.62,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I fought for short periods of time Dialogue: 0,0:06:27.74,0:06:29.48,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,in Kashmir and Burma, Dialogue: 0,0:06:29.50,0:06:30.82,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,besides Afghanistan. Dialogue: 0,0:06:31.20,0:06:33.92,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Our aim was to remove the invaders, Dialogue: 0,0:06:34.96,0:06:38.04,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to bring relief to the oppressed victims Dialogue: 0,0:06:39.08,0:06:42.22,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and of course to establish\Nan Islamic state, Dialogue: 0,0:06:42.24,0:06:43.96,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,a caliphate for God's rule. Dialogue: 0,0:06:44.92,0:06:46.12,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And I did this openly. Dialogue: 0,0:06:47.38,0:06:49.50,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I didn't break any laws. Dialogue: 0,0:06:49.64,0:06:52.74,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I was proud and grateful to be British -- Dialogue: 0,0:06:52.76,0:06:54.34,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I still am. Dialogue: 0,0:06:54.36,0:06:58.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And I bore no hostility\Nagainst this, my country, Dialogue: 0,0:06:59.06,0:07:02.60,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,nor enmity towards\Nthe non-Muslim citizens, Dialogue: 0,0:07:02.62,0:07:04.02,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and I still don't. Dialogue: 0,0:07:06.94,0:07:09.32,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,During one battle in Afghanistan, Dialogue: 0,0:07:09.34,0:07:12.22,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,some British men and I\Nformed a special bond Dialogue: 0,0:07:13.06,0:07:15.80,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,with a 15-year-old Afghani boy, Dialogue: 0,0:07:15.82,0:07:17.02,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Abdullah, Dialogue: 0,0:07:17.94,0:07:20.28,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,an innocent, loving and lovable kid Dialogue: 0,0:07:20.30,0:07:22.34,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,who was always eager to please. Dialogue: 0,0:07:24.06,0:07:25.26,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,He was poor. Dialogue: 0,0:07:25.86,0:07:28.58,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And boys like him\Ndid menial tasks in the camp. Dialogue: 0,0:07:29.58,0:07:30.87,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And he seemed happy enough, Dialogue: 0,0:07:31.58,0:07:32.100,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but I couldn't help wonder -- Dialogue: 0,0:07:33.02,0:07:34.92,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,his parents must have missed him dearly. Dialogue: 0,0:07:36.66,0:07:40.22,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And they must have dreamt\Nabout a better future for him. Dialogue: 0,0:07:42.66,0:07:45.48,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,A victim of circumstance\Ncaught up in a war, Dialogue: 0,0:07:45.50,0:07:46.78,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,cruelly thrust upon him Dialogue: 0,0:07:47.82,0:07:50.06,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,by the cruel circumstances of the time. Dialogue: 0,0:07:53.78,0:07:58.50,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,One day I picked up this unexploded\Nmortar shell in a trench, Dialogue: 0,0:07:59.42,0:08:03.22,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and I had it deposited\Nin a makeshift mud hut lab. Dialogue: 0,0:08:04.38,0:08:07.32,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And I went out on a short,\Npointless skirmish -- Dialogue: 0,0:08:07.34,0:08:08.54,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,always pointless, Dialogue: 0,0:08:09.54,0:08:12.98,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And I came back a few hours later\Nto discover he was dead. Dialogue: 0,0:08:14.26,0:08:17.04,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,He had tried to recover\Nexplosives from that shell. Dialogue: 0,0:08:17.06,0:08:19.66,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It exploded, and he died a violent death, Dialogue: 0,0:08:20.54,0:08:24.82,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,blown to bits by the very same device\Nthat had proved harmless to me. Dialogue: 0,0:08:26.18,0:08:27.70,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So I started to question. Dialogue: 0,0:08:29.70,0:08:33.42,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,How did his death serve any purpose? Dialogue: 0,0:08:35.38,0:08:37.38,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Why did he die and I lived? Dialogue: 0,0:08:38.66,0:08:40.16,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I carried on. Dialogue: 0,0:08:40.18,0:08:41.80,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I fought in Kashmir. Dialogue: 0,0:08:41.82,0:08:44.52,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I also recruited for the Philippines, Dialogue: 0,0:08:44.54,0:08:46.34,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Bosnia and Chechnya. Dialogue: 0,0:08:47.66,0:08:48.94,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And the questions grew. Dialogue: 0,0:08:50.98,0:08:52.88,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Later in Burma, Dialogue: 0,0:08:52.90,0:08:55.24,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I came across Rohingya fighters, Dialogue: 0,0:08:55.26,0:08:57.52,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,who were barely teenagers, Dialogue: 0,0:08:57.54,0:08:59.20,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,born and brought up in the jungle, Dialogue: 0,0:08:59.22,0:09:01.28,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,carrying machine guns\Nand grenade launchers. Dialogue: 0,0:09:05.10,0:09:10.30,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I met two 13-year-olds\Nwith soft manners and gentle voices. Dialogue: 0,0:09:12.02,0:09:13.24,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Looking at me, Dialogue: 0,0:09:13.26,0:09:15.34,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,they begged me\Nto take them away to England. Dialogue: 0,0:09:21.82,0:09:23.70,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,They simply wanted to go to school -- Dialogue: 0,0:09:24.78,0:09:26.10,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that was their dream. Dialogue: 0,0:09:29.46,0:09:30.68,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,My family -- Dialogue: 0,0:09:30.70,0:09:32.16,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,my children of the same age -- Dialogue: 0,0:09:32.18,0:09:34.14,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,were living at home in the UK, Dialogue: 0,0:09:35.14,0:09:36.44,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,going to school, Dialogue: 0,0:09:36.46,0:09:37.66,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,living a safe life. Dialogue: 0,0:09:38.98,0:09:40.24,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And I couldn't help wonder Dialogue: 0,0:09:40.26,0:09:43.72,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,how much these young boys\Nmust have spoken to one another Dialogue: 0,0:09:43.74,0:09:45.94,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,about their dreams for such a life. Dialogue: 0,0:09:48.02,0:09:49.94,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Victims of circumstances: Dialogue: 0,0:09:51.46,0:09:52.74,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,these two young boys, Dialogue: 0,0:09:53.42,0:09:56.48,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,sleeping rough on the ground,\Nlooking up at the stars, Dialogue: 0,0:09:56.50,0:09:58.100,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,cynically exploited by their leaders Dialogue: 0,0:09:59.02,0:10:01.50,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,for their personal lust\Nfor glory and power. Dialogue: 0,0:10:03.02,0:10:06.24,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I soon witnessed boys like them\Nkilling one another Dialogue: 0,0:10:06.26,0:10:08.50,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,in conflicts between rival groups. Dialogue: 0,0:10:10.50,0:10:12.86,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And it was the same everywhere ... Dialogue: 0,0:10:14.38,0:10:16.88,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Afghanistan, Kashmir, Burma, Dialogue: 0,0:10:16.90,0:10:18.38,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Philippines, Chechnya; Dialogue: 0,0:10:19.34,0:10:23.96,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,petty warlords got the young\Nand vulnerable to kill one another Dialogue: 0,0:10:23.98,0:10:25.30,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,in the name of jihad. Dialogue: 0,0:10:27.34,0:10:29.18,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Muslims against Muslims. Dialogue: 0,0:10:30.74,0:10:35.12,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Not protecting anyone\Nagainst invaders or occupiers; Dialogue: 0,0:10:35.14,0:10:37.14,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,not bringing relief to the oppressed. Dialogue: 0,0:10:39.34,0:10:40.72,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Children being used, Dialogue: 0,0:10:40.74,0:10:42.36,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,cynically exploited; Dialogue: 0,0:10:42.38,0:10:44.32,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,people dying in conflicts Dialogue: 0,0:10:44.34,0:10:47.38,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,which I was supporting\Nin the name of jihad. Dialogue: 0,0:10:50.02,0:10:51.66,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And it still carries on today. Dialogue: 0,0:10:56.90,0:11:00.52,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Realizing that the violent jihad Dialogue: 0,0:11:00.54,0:11:04.74,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I had engaged in abroad Dialogue: 0,0:11:06.54,0:11:08.58,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,was so different -- Dialogue: 0,0:11:10.38,0:11:15.12,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,such a chasm between\Nwhat I had experienced Dialogue: 0,0:11:15.14,0:11:16.94,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and what I thought was sacred duty -- Dialogue: 0,0:11:17.74,0:11:20.70,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I had to reflect\Non my activities here in the UK. Dialogue: 0,0:11:23.34,0:11:25.40,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I had to consider my preaching, Dialogue: 0,0:11:25.42,0:11:26.96,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,recruiting, fund-raising, Dialogue: 0,0:11:26.98,0:11:28.56,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,training, Dialogue: 0,0:11:28.58,0:11:30.70,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but most importantly, radicalizing -- Dialogue: 0,0:11:31.74,0:11:33.96,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,sending young people to fight and die Dialogue: 0,0:11:33.98,0:11:35.20,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,as I was doing -- Dialogue: 0,0:11:35.22,0:11:36.98,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,all totally wrong. Dialogue: 0,0:11:40.78,0:11:43.98,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So I got involved\Nin violent jihad in the mid '80s, Dialogue: 0,0:11:45.06,0:11:46.54,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,starting with Afghanistan. Dialogue: 0,0:11:47.40,0:11:50.68,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And by the time I finished\Nit was in the year 2000. Dialogue: 0,0:11:51.14,0:11:52.72,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I was completely immersed in it. Dialogue: 0,0:11:52.74,0:11:54.68,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,All around me people supported, Dialogue: 0,0:11:54.70,0:11:55.92,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,applauded, Dialogue: 0,0:11:55.94,0:11:58.34,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,even celebrated what\Nwe were doing in their name. Dialogue: 0,0:12:00.26,0:12:02.08,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But by the time I learned to get out, Dialogue: 0,0:12:02.10,0:12:04.72,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,completely disillusioned in the year 2000, Dialogue: 0,0:12:04.74,0:12:06.42,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,15 years had passed. Dialogue: 0,0:12:09.30,0:12:10.54,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So what goes wrong? Dialogue: 0,0:12:12.82,0:12:15.66,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,We were so busy talking about virtue, Dialogue: 0,0:12:17.26,0:12:20.42,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and we were blinded by a cause. Dialogue: 0,0:12:24.34,0:12:28.62,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And we did not give ourselves a chance\Nto develop a virtuous character. Dialogue: 0,0:12:29.78,0:12:33.92,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,We told ourselves\Nwe were fighting for the oppressed, Dialogue: 0,0:12:33.94,0:12:36.14,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but these were unwinnable wars. Dialogue: 0,0:12:37.82,0:12:41.44,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,We became the very instrument\Nthrough which more deaths occurred, Dialogue: 0,0:12:41.46,0:12:45.20,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,complicit in causing further misery Dialogue: 0,0:12:45.22,0:12:47.82,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,for the selfish benefit of the cruel few. Dialogue: 0,0:12:48.78,0:12:49.100,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So over time, Dialogue: 0,0:12:50.02,0:12:51.22,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,a very long time, Dialogue: 0,0:12:53.10,0:12:54.30,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I opened my eyes. Dialogue: 0,0:12:56.46,0:12:57.94,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I began to dare Dialogue: 0,0:12:59.54,0:13:01.20,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to face the truth, Dialogue: 0,0:13:01.22,0:13:02.42,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to think, Dialogue: 0,0:13:03.86,0:13:05.100,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to face the hard questions. Dialogue: 0,0:13:06.02,0:13:08.22,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I got in touch with my soul. Dialogue: 0,0:13:18.58,0:13:19.90,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,What have I learned? Dialogue: 0,0:13:21.14,0:13:25.70,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,That people who engage\Nin violent jihadism, Dialogue: 0,0:13:27.46,0:13:30.06,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that people who are drawn\Nto these types of extremisms, Dialogue: 0,0:13:31.10,0:13:33.30,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,are not that different to everyone else. Dialogue: 0,0:13:34.38,0:13:37.18,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But I believe such people can change. Dialogue: 0,0:13:38.62,0:13:41.48,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,They can regain their hearts\Nand restore them Dialogue: 0,0:13:41.50,0:13:44.56,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,by filling them\Nwith human values that heal. Dialogue: 0,0:13:49.20,0:13:51.42,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,When we ignore the realities, Dialogue: 0,0:13:51.44,0:13:57.20,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,we discover that we accept what\Nwe are told without critical reflection. Dialogue: 0,0:13:59.84,0:14:03.62,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And we ignore the gifts and advantages\Nthat many of us would cherish Dialogue: 0,0:14:03.64,0:14:05.92,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,even for a single moment in their lives. Dialogue: 0,0:14:10.60,0:14:12.96,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I engaged in actions\NI thought were correct. Dialogue: 0,0:14:15.96,0:14:19.96,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But now I began to question\Nhow I knew what I knew. Dialogue: 0,0:14:22.04,0:14:25.74,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I endlessly told others\Nto accept the truth, Dialogue: 0,0:14:25.76,0:14:29.48,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but I failed to give doubt\Nits rightful place. Dialogue: 0,0:14:31.82,0:14:36.68,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,This conviction that people can change\Nis rooted in my experience, Dialogue: 0,0:14:36.70,0:14:37.90,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,my own journey. Dialogue: 0,0:14:39.42,0:14:41.32,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Through wide reading, Dialogue: 0,0:14:41.34,0:14:42.54,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,reflecting, Dialogue: 0,0:14:43.06,0:14:44.96,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,contemplation, self-knowledge, Dialogue: 0,0:14:44.98,0:14:46.20,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I discovered, Dialogue: 0,0:14:46.22,0:14:51.86,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I realized that Islamists' world\Nof us and them is false and unjust. Dialogue: 0,0:14:55.70,0:14:59.38,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Through considering the uncertainties\Nin all that we had asserted, Dialogue: 0,0:15:00.30,0:15:01.92,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to the inviolable truths, Dialogue: 0,0:15:01.94,0:15:03.34,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,incontestable truths, Dialogue: 0,0:15:05.86,0:15:08.74,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I developed a more nuanced understanding. Dialogue: 0,0:15:15.38,0:15:19.86,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I realized that in a world crowded\Nwith variation and contradiction, Dialogue: 0,0:15:20.82,0:15:22.04,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,foolish preachers, Dialogue: 0,0:15:22.06,0:15:25.08,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,only foolish preachers\Nlike I used to be, Dialogue: 0,0:15:25.10,0:15:30.46,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,see no paradox in the myths and fictions\Nthey use to assert authenticity. Dialogue: 0,0:15:32.02,0:15:36.56,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So I understood the vital\Nimportance of self-knowledge, Dialogue: 0,0:15:36.58,0:15:37.78,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,political awareness Dialogue: 0,0:15:38.90,0:15:43.56,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and the necessity\Nfor a deep and wide understanding Dialogue: 0,0:15:43.58,0:15:46.04,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,of our commitments and our actions, Dialogue: 0,0:15:46.06,0:15:47.38,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,how they affect others. Dialogue: 0,0:15:49.42,0:15:50.88,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So my plea today to everyone, Dialogue: 0,0:15:50.90,0:15:55.38,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,especially those who sincerely\Nbelieve in Islamist jihadism ... Dialogue: 0,0:15:57.38,0:15:59.78,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,refuse dogmatic authority; Dialogue: 0,0:16:01.26,0:16:04.94,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,let go of anger, hatred and violence; Dialogue: 0,0:16:06.02,0:16:07.68,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,learn to right wrongs Dialogue: 0,0:16:07.70,0:16:12.77,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,without even attempting to justify\Ncruel, unjust and futile behavior. Dialogue: 0,0:16:15.74,0:16:19.08,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Instead create a few\Nbeautiful and useful things Dialogue: 0,0:16:19.10,0:16:20.30,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that outlive us. Dialogue: 0,0:16:24.10,0:16:25.96,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Approach the world, life, Dialogue: 0,0:16:25.98,0:16:27.18,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,with love. Dialogue: 0,0:16:28.90,0:16:30.12,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Learn to develop Dialogue: 0,0:16:30.14,0:16:31.40,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,or cultivate your hearts Dialogue: 0,0:16:31.42,0:16:34.78,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to see goodness, beauty and truth\Nin others and in the world. Dialogue: 0,0:16:35.90,0:16:38.42,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,That way we do matter\Nmore to ourselves ... Dialogue: 0,0:16:40.14,0:16:41.34,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to each other, Dialogue: 0,0:16:42.06,0:16:43.28,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to our communities Dialogue: 0,0:16:43.30,0:16:44.78,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and, for me, to God. Dialogue: 0,0:16:45.90,0:16:47.52,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,This is jihad -- Dialogue: 0,0:16:47.54,0:16:48.74,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,my true jihad. Dialogue: 0,0:16:49.82,0:16:51.04,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Thank you. Dialogue: 0,0:16:51.06,0:16:53.50,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,(Applause)