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To be "all things to all men,"

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and I guess in light of some stuff

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that he happens to be a person

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that pushes some extremes,

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it seems that something [br]that's becoming big now

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is the whole "pub theology,"

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going to bars and having Bible studies.

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And my personal stance

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based on the Scriptures

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is in opposition to stuff like that,

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and I have a buddy that I work with

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that he's the only other "Christian"

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in my workplace

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in a largely unbelieving workplace.

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And he is constantly pushing,

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promoting that kind of lifestyle

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to reach people,

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and then I'm the overly dogmatic person

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because I don't understand it -

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why you would go into the bars

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to actually drink with everybody

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and have a Bible study doing it

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to reach people.

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So I understand the [br]"all things to all men"

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and I guess wisdom, insight?

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Am I pushing on the lines of legalism?

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Or is stuff like that too far?

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Going into bars, having Bible study there?

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You know, to try and reach people.

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The "being all things" where people

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are going to use that.

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Bob: Here's an illustration

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that I saw in my own [br]life that I never forgot.

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Between my junior and [br]senior year in college,

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I had a summer intern job

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in Fort Dodge, Iowa.

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And there were three [br]or four others with me

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and we all lived in this apartment house.

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And there was another [br]fellow living there.

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He was a policeman about [br]10 years older than me.

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So, we would go downtown

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about every evening.

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And then, the next year, I was converted.

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And this company that I was working for

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had a regional meeting [br]back up in Fort Dodge.

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So I thought to myself,

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I'm going to go look up Herb

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and tell him that I've become a Christian.

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So, I didn't find him at the house,

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and I thought maybe he's downtown

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at the old Cave In.

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And so sure enough, there was Herb

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sitting at the bar.

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And he was quite surprised to see me

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and he says, "Bob! Have a chair."

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"Have a drink with me."

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And I said, "No thanks, Herb,

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I've become a Christian."

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"What?"

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And so we talked awhile

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and he urged me again,

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"Have a beer with me."

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And I said no.

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And he went on.

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"You're telling me you can't just sit here

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and have a beer with me?

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Who do you think you are?"

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And he put the pressure on,

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and after about four or five times,

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I said, "Okay."

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And I had that glass of beer,

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and just as I got it to my lips,

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he said, "Look at that! [br]I knew it wasn't real!"

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And it was just like a knife.

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So, you know, I think one big thing

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is are we going to where they're at

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with the atmosphere and the attitude

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of bringing them out?

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Or identifying with them

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and confirming them in their sin

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in whatever circumstance it is?

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Tim: Just adding to that,

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you know, in every situation,

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we're representatives of Christ,

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and we need to portray Him.

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And you know, when I talked about

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just breaking the taboos,

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you think about how Jesus

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related with people versus [br]the religious leaders.

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Think about the things He did.

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He touched lepers.

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You didn't even get downwind from a leper.

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You didn't walk around them.

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He would stop and speak

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with a woman at a well.

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He would speak with the [br]Syro-Pheonician woman.

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He did things, but it was always

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to show kindness.

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It was always as Bob [br]said to bring them out.

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And you know,

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I personally, I like the guy

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that does the unusual thing.

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I like that.

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I like when people are [br]testing the boundaries,

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but behind it you see [br]that they're testing it

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because they really do [br]have a burden for souls.

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And they really have a desire for purity.

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They're not trying to be [br]as much like the world

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as they possibly can.

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They have a burden for souls,

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and they're willing to [br]think outside the box.

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I love people like that.