WEBVTT 00:00:01.425 --> 00:00:02.204 Welcome back. 00:00:02.300 --> 00:00:06.960 Most Canadians won't need convincing that a COVID vaccine will be worth taking, 00:00:06.960 --> 00:00:07.948 once it arrives. 00:00:07.948 --> 00:00:11.067 But, as you just heard, many Canadians have questions. 00:00:11.067 --> 00:00:12.759 So, to answer some of ours, 00:00:12.811 --> 00:00:15.841 Dr. Cora Constantinescu, an infectious disease specialist, 00:00:15.934 --> 00:00:18.834 who works at the vaccine hesitancy clinic 00:00:18.980 --> 00:00:21.460 at the Alberta Children’s Hospital in Calgary. 00:00:21.641 --> 00:00:25.301 And Dr., I didn’t even know a place such as yours even existed. 00:00:25.541 --> 00:00:27.954 Who gets referred to you, exactly? 00:00:28.065 --> 00:00:31.299 We have made it into more of a streamlined process 00:00:31.299 --> 00:00:33.880 and have actually gone out in the physician community 00:00:33.880 --> 00:00:35.751 and told them that we are here to 00:00:35.751 --> 00:00:39.277 support them as they refer the patients in to us. 00:00:39.277 --> 00:00:43.867 And do you see it as your job to sort of convince people to get vaccinated? 00:00:46.471 --> 00:00:49.133 I see it as my job to support people 00:00:49.133 --> 00:00:51.963 as they’re making the decision to vaccinate. 00:00:53.140 --> 00:00:56.818 How does that conversation sound? Where would you even begin? 00:00:59.809 --> 00:01:02.552 I start every time reminding myself 00:01:02.552 --> 00:01:05.952 that at the heart of each and every vaccine hesitancy appointment, 00:01:05.952 --> 00:01:08.262 there is a parent trying 00:01:08.452 --> 00:01:11.842 to make the best decision they can for themselves and their family. 00:01:11.842 --> 00:01:14.462 And it actually takes quite a lot of courage to come in 00:01:14.462 --> 00:01:18.000 because they’re battling a lot of fears and misinformation, 00:01:18.000 --> 00:01:20.100 and overall, a lack of trust. 00:01:20.247 --> 00:01:24.857 So we spend quite a lot of time building rapport and trust with each family, 00:01:24.857 --> 00:01:29.646 understanding more about them so we can actually personalize and tailor 00:01:29.646 --> 00:01:34.458 the communication and the message that we give them about the vaccinations. 00:01:34.458 --> 00:01:36.595 And then, we work closely with public health 00:01:36.595 --> 00:01:39.500 where they go ahead and actually administer the vaccines. 00:01:39.500 --> 00:01:44.440 And that’s striking that you would say there is this lack of trust. 00:01:44.973 --> 00:01:48.662 How would you even begin to advise 00:01:48.662 --> 00:01:52.148 a provincial government, a local government, or the federal government 00:01:52.148 --> 00:01:54.846 to create that or to build that? 00:01:57.394 --> 00:01:59.864 I really think that when we think about trust, 00:01:59.864 --> 00:02:03.900 we have to think at the personal level and at the population level. 00:02:04.352 --> 00:02:06.294 And at the personal level, 00:02:06.294 --> 00:02:10.964 it goes back to this idea of putting it into perspective 00:02:10.964 --> 00:02:15.907 and understanding what the benefit of the vaccine 00:02:15.907 --> 00:02:19.432 and the danger of the disease is to each of us. 00:02:19.502 --> 00:02:21.852 So, when it comes to COVID, for example, 00:02:21.852 --> 00:02:26.231 I would encourage every Canadian to think of what this pandemic, 00:02:26.573 --> 00:02:28.573 what they have done for this pandemic, 00:02:28.573 --> 00:02:30.682 and what this virus has taken away from them. 00:02:30.682 --> 00:02:33.016 So, it might be that some have lost loved ones, 00:02:33.016 --> 00:02:37.644 others have lost their social interaction, the ability of the kids to go to school. 00:02:37.748 --> 00:02:40.668 There is a cost to each and every one of us 00:02:40.761 --> 00:02:44.191 and therefore, there is a benefit to each and every one of us. 00:02:44.421 --> 00:02:49.140 And then, we all have to go and take this vaccine 00:02:49.140 --> 00:02:52.250 so that we can show that we’re indeed in this together. 00:02:52.250 --> 00:02:54.919 And then, when we move at the population level, 00:02:54.919 --> 00:02:57.779 it’s really important to start building this trust. 00:02:57.779 --> 00:03:00.658 And it’s a hard task to take on, 00:03:00.788 --> 00:03:04.330 because you have to consider the complexity of human behavior, 00:03:04.330 --> 00:03:06.716 especially about COVID-19. 00:03:06.716 --> 00:03:09.746 And our health care institutions can't do this alone. 00:03:09.746 --> 00:03:13.194 I don’t want this to come across as a callous question, 00:03:13.194 --> 00:03:16.414 but, how do you know what you do works? 00:03:16.414 --> 00:03:19.200 Because you are not the one administering vaccines, right? 00:03:19.200 --> 00:03:22.530 Do you track your success rate, so to speak? 00:03:22.822 --> 00:03:24.491 So, depending on how we look at it, 00:03:24.491 --> 00:03:27.802 it’s anywhere between about 50 to 65 % 00:03:27.802 --> 00:03:30.485 that patients will go ahead and have a vaccine 00:03:30.485 --> 00:03:32.218 after they’ve attended our clinic. 00:03:32.218 --> 00:03:35.649 And in the vaccine hesitancy world actually that’s quite successful. 00:03:35.649 --> 00:03:37.849 This has been an interesting conversation. 00:03:37.849 --> 00:03:40.300 Dr Constantinescu, thank you so much for your time. 00:03:40.410 --> 00:03:43.361 It was a real pleasure to be here, thank you for having me.