WEBVTT 00:00:01.475 --> 00:00:02.204 Welcome back. 00:00:02.300 --> 00:00:06.740 Most Canadians won't need convincing that a COVID vaccine will be worth taking 00:00:07.009 --> 00:00:07.759 once it arrives. 00:00:07.898 --> 00:00:10.858 But, as you just heard, many Canadians have questions. 00:00:11.149 --> 00:00:12.759 So, to answer some of ours, 00:00:12.811 --> 00:00:15.841 Dr. Cora Constantinescu, an infectious disease specialist 00:00:15.934 --> 00:00:18.834 who works at the vaccine hesitancy clinic 00:00:18.980 --> 00:00:21.460 at the Alberta Children’s Hospital in Calgary. 00:00:21.641 --> 00:00:25.021 And Dr., I didn’t even know a place such as yours even existed. 00:00:25.064 --> 00:00:27.724 I mean, who gets referred to you, exactly? 00:00:28.125 --> 00:00:31.299 We have made it into a more of a streamline process 00:00:31.419 --> 00:00:33.798 and have actually going out in the physician community 00:00:34.052 --> 00:00:39.262 and told them that we are here to support them as they refer the patients into us. 00:00:39.277 --> 00:00:43.867 And then, do you see it as your job to sort of convince people to get vaccinated? 00:00:46.311 --> 00:00:51.541 I see it as my job to support people as they’re making the decision to vaccinate. 00:00:52.273 --> 00:00:55.253 So, how does that conversation sound? 00:00:55.253 --> 00:00:56.887 I mean, where do you even begin? 00:00:59.849 --> 00:01:02.199 I star every time reminding myself 00:01:02.199 --> 00:01:05.857 that at the heart of each and every vaccine hesitancy appointment, 00:01:06.182 --> 00:01:08.292 there is a parent trying 00:01:08.512 --> 00:01:11.842 to make the best decision they can for themselves and their family. 00:01:11.842 --> 00:01:14.462 And it actually takes quite a lot of courage to come in 00:01:14.469 --> 00:01:17.669 because they’re battling a lot of fears and misinformation, 00:01:18.000 --> 00:01:20.010 and overall, a lack of trust. 00:01:20.307 --> 00:01:24.767 So we spend quite a lot of time building rapport and trust with each family 00:01:24.963 --> 00:01:28.473 understanding more about them so we can actually personalize 00:01:28.514 --> 00:01:34.384 and tailor the communication and the message that we give them about the vaccinations. 00:01:34.458 --> 00:01:36.448 And then, we work closely with public health 00:01:36.515 --> 00:01:39.405 where they go ahead and actually administer the vaccines. 00:01:39.645 --> 00:01:44.215 And that’s striking that you would say there is this kind of lack of trust. 00:01:44.230 --> 00:01:48.640 I mean, how would you even begin to advice? 00:01:48.640 --> 00:01:50.946 I don’t know, like a provincial government, a local government, 00:01:50.946 --> 00:01:54.583 or the federal government to create that or to build that. 00:01:56.764 --> 00:01:59.864 Yeah, so, I really think that when we think about trust, 00:01:59.864 --> 00:02:03.900 we have to think at the personal level, and at the population level. 00:02:04.352 --> 00:02:06.272 And at the personal level, 00:02:06.294 --> 00:02:10.844 it goes back to this idea of putting it into perspective 00:02:10.844 --> 00:02:15.907 and understanding what the benefit of the vaccine 00:02:15.907 --> 00:02:19.432 and the danger of the disease is to each of us. 00:02:19.502 --> 00:02:21.852 So, when it comes to COVID, for example, 00:02:21.852 --> 00:02:26.231 I would encourage every Canadian to think of what this pandemic 00:02:26.723 --> 00:02:28.653 and what they have done for this pandemic 00:02:28.653 --> 00:02:30.666 and what this virus has taken away from them. 00:02:30.666 --> 00:02:32.926 So, it might be that some have lost loved ones, 00:02:32.926 --> 00:02:37.644 others have lost their social interaction, the ability of the kids to go to school. 00:02:37.748 --> 00:02:40.608 There is a cost to each and everyone of us 00:02:40.761 --> 00:02:44.191 and therefore, there is a benefit to each and everyone of us. 00:02:44.421 --> 00:02:49.151 And then, we all have to go and have to take this vaccine 00:02:49.170 --> 00:02:52.250 so we can show that we’re indeed in this together. 00:02:52.250 --> 00:02:54.890 And then, when we move at the population level, 00:02:54.919 --> 00:02:57.779 it’s really important to start building this trust. 00:02:57.779 --> 00:03:00.578 It’s a hard task to take on 00:03:00.788 --> 00:03:04.324 because you have to consider the complexity of human behavior, 00:03:04.330 --> 00:03:06.630 especially about COVID-19. 00:03:06.716 --> 00:03:09.746 And our health care institutions can't do this alone. 00:03:09.746 --> 00:03:13.176 I don’t want this to come across as a callous question, 00:03:13.194 --> 00:03:16.414 but, how do you know what you do works? 00:03:16.414 --> 00:03:19.154 Because you are not the one administering vaccines, right? 00:03:19.200 --> 00:03:22.530 Do you track your success rate, so to speak? 00:03:22.972 --> 00:03:24.422 So, depending on how we look at it. 00:03:24.422 --> 00:03:27.802 It’s anywhere between about 50 to 65 % 00:03:27.802 --> 00:03:32.149 that patients will go ahead and have a vaccine after they’ve attended our clinic. 00:03:32.218 --> 00:03:35.518 And in the vaccine hesitancy world actually that’s quite successful. 00:03:35.529 --> 00:03:38.109 This has been an interesting conversation, to be sure. 00:03:38.109 --> 00:03:40.310 Dr Constantinescu, thank you so much for your time. 00:03:40.320 --> 00:03:42.980 It was a real pleasure to be here, thank you for having me.