0:00:01.475,0:00:02.204 Welcome back. 0:00:02.300,0:00:06.740 Most Canadians won't need convincing that[br]a COVID vaccine will be worth taking 0:00:07.009,0:00:07.759 once it arrives. 0:00:07.898,0:00:10.858 But, as you just herd, [br]many Canadians have questions. 0:00:11.149,0:00:12.759 So, to answer some of ours, 0:00:12.811,0:00:15.841 Dr. Cora Constantinescu, [br]an infectious disease specialist 0:00:15.934,0:00:18.834 who works at the vaccine hesitancy clinic 0:00:18.980,0:00:21.460 at the Alberta Children’s Hospital[br]in Calgary. 0:00:21.641,0:00:25.021 And Dr., I didn’t even know [br]a place such as yours even existed. 0:00:25.064,0:00:27.724 I mean, who gets referred to you, exactly? 0:00:28.125,0:00:31.299 We have made it [br]into a more of a streamline process 0:00:31.419,0:00:33.798 and have actually going out [br]in the physician community 0:00:34.052,0:00:39.262 and told them that we are here to support them[br]as they refer the patients into us. 0:00:39.277,0:00:41.107 And then, do you see it as your job 0:00:45.384,0:00:46.311 to sort of convince people to get vaccinated? 0:00:46.311,0:00:51.541 I see it as my job to support people [br]as they’re making the decision to vaccinate. 0:00:52.273,0:00:55.253 So, how does that conversation sound? 0:00:55.253,0:00:56.887 I mean, where do you even begin? 0:00:59.849,0:01:02.199 I star every time reminding myself 0:01:02.199,0:01:05.857 that at the heart of each [br]and every vaccine hesitancy appointment, 0:01:06.182,0:01:08.292 there is a parent trying 0:01:08.512,0:01:11.842 to make the best decision they can[br]for themselves and for their family. 0:01:11.842,0:01:14.462 And it actually takes [br]quite a lot of courage to come in 0:01:14.469,0:01:17.669 because they’re battling[br]a lot of fears and misinformation, 0:01:18.000,0:01:20.010 and overall, a lack of trust. 0:01:20.307,0:01:24.767 So we spend quite a lot of time [br]building rapport and trust with each family 0:01:24.963,0:01:28.473 understanding more about them [br]so we can actually personalize 0:01:28.514,0:01:34.384 and tailor the communication and the message[br]that we give them about the vaccinations. 0:01:34.458,0:01:36.448 And then, [br]we work closely with public health 0:01:36.515,0:01:39.405 where they go ahead [br]and actually administer the vaccine. 0:01:39.645,0:01:44.215 And that’s striking, that you would say [br]there is this kind of lack of trust. 0:01:44.230,0:01:48.640 I mean, how would you even begin to advice? 0:01:48.640,0:01:50.946 I don’t know, like a provincial government, [br]a local government, 0:01:50.946,0:01:54.583 or the federal government[br]to create that or to build that. 0:01:56.764,0:01:59.864 Yeah, so, I really think that [br]when we think about trust, 0:01:59.864,0:02:03.900 we have to think at the personal level,[br]and at the population level. 0:02:04.352,0:02:06.272 And at the personal level, 0:02:06.294,0:02:10.844 it goes back to this idea [br]of putting it into perspective 0:02:10.844,0:02:15.907 and understanding [br]what the benefit of the vaccine 0:02:15.907,0:02:19.432 and the dangers of the diseases to each of us. 0:02:19.502,0:02:21.852 So, when it comes to COVID, for example, 0:02:21.852,0:02:26.231 I would encourage every Canadian [br]to think of what this pandemic 0:02:26.723,0:02:28.653 and what they have done for this pandemic 0:02:28.653,0:02:30.666 and what this virus[br]has taken away from them. 0:02:30.666,0:02:32.926 So, it might be that [br]some have lost loved ones, 0:02:32.926,0:02:37.644 others have lost their social interaction,[br]the ability of the kids to go to school. 0:02:37.748,0:02:40.608 There is a cost to each and everyone of us 0:02:40.761,0:02:44.191 and therefore, there is a benefit[br]to each and everyone of us. 0:02:44.421,0:02:49.151 And then, we all have to go [br]and have to take this vaccine 0:02:49.170,0:02:52.250 so we can show [br]that we’re indeed in this together. 0:02:52.250,0:02:54.890 And then, when we move[br]at the population level, 0:02:54.919,0:02:57.779 it’s really important [br]to start building this trust. 0:02:57.779,0:03:00.578 It’s a hard task to take on 0:03:00.788,0:03:04.324 because you have to consider[br]the complexity of human behavior, 0:03:04.330,0:03:06.630 especially about COVID-19. 0:03:06.716,0:03:09.746 And our health care institutions[br]can't do this alone. 0:03:09.746,0:03:13.176 I don’t want this to come across[br]as a callous question, 0:03:13.194,0:03:16.414 but, how do you know what you do works? 0:03:16.414,0:03:19.154 Because you are not the one [br]administering vaccines, right? 0:03:19.200,0:03:22.530 Do you track your success rate,[br]so to speak? 0:03:22.972,0:03:24.422 So, depending on how we look at it. 0:03:24.422,0:03:27.802 It’s anywhere between about 50 to 65 %[br] 0:03:27.802,0:03:32.149 that patients will go ahead and have a vaccine [br]after they’ve attended our clinic. 0:03:32.218,0:03:35.518 And in the vaccine hesitancy world [br]actually that’s quite successful. 0:03:35.529,0:03:38.109 This has been an interesting conversation,[br]to be sure. 0:03:38.109,0:03:40.310 Dr Constantinescu,[br]thank you so much for your time. 0:03:40.320,0:03:42.980 It was a real pleasure to be here,[br]thank you for having me.