WEBVTT 00:00:01.475 --> 00:00:02.204 Welcome back. 00:00:02.300 --> 00:00:06.740 Most Canadians won't need convincing that a COVID vaccine will be worth taking 00:00:07.009 --> 00:00:07.759 once it arrives. 00:00:07.898 --> 00:00:10.858 But, as you just herd, many Canadians have questions. 00:00:11.149 --> 00:00:12.759 So, to answer some of ours, 00:00:12.811 --> 00:00:15.841 Dr. Cora Constantinescu, an infectious disease specialist 00:00:15.934 --> 00:00:18.834 who works at the vaccine hesitancy clinic 00:00:18.980 --> 00:00:21.460 at the Alberta Children’s Hospital in Calgary. 00:00:21.641 --> 00:00:25.021 And Dr, I didn’t even know that a place such as your even existed. 00:00:25.064 --> 00:00:27.724 I mean, who gets referred to you, exactly? 00:00:28.125 --> 00:00:33.585 We have made it into a more of a streamline process 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 and have actually going out in the physician community 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 and told them that we are here to support them as they refer the patients into us. 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 And then, do you see it as your job 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 to sort of convince people to get vaccinated? 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 I see it as my job to support people as they’re making the decision to vaccinate. 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 So, how does that conversation sound? 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 I mean, where do you even begin? 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 I star every time reminding myself 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 that at the heart of each and every vaccine hesitancy appointment, 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 there is a parent trying 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 to make the best decision they can for themselves and for their family. 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 And it actually takes quite a lot of courage to come in 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 because they’re battling a lot of fear and misinformation, 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 and overall, a lack of trust. 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 So we spend quite a lot of time building rapport and trust with each family 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 understanding more about them so we can actually personalize 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 and tailor the communication and the message that we give them about the vaccinations. 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 And then, we work closely with public health 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 where they go ahead and actually administer the vaccine. 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 And that’s striking, that you would say there is this kind of lack of trust. 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 I mean, how would you even begin to advice? 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 I don’t know, like a provincial government, a local government, 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 or the federal government to create that or to build that. 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 Yeah, so, I really think that when we think about trust, 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 we have to think at the personal level, and at the population level. 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 And at the personal level, 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 it goes back to this idea of putting it into perspective 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 and understanding what the benefit of the vaccine 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 and the dangers of the diseases to each of us. 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 So, when it comes to COVID, for example, 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 I would encourage every Canadian to think of what this pandemic 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 and what they have done for this pandemic 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 and what this virus has taken away from them. 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 So, it might be that some have lost loved ones, 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 others have lost their social interaction, the ability of the kids to go to school. 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 There is a cost to each and everyone of us 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 and therefore, there is a benefit to each and everyone of us. 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 And then, we all have to go and have to take this vaccine 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 so we can show that we’re indeed in this together. 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 And then, when we move at the population level, 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 it’s really important to start building this trust. 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 It’s a hard task to take on 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 because you have to consider the complexity of human behavior, 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 especially about COVID-19. 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 And our health care institutions can't do this alone. 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 I don’t want this to come across as a callous question, 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 but, how do you know what you do works? 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 Because you are not the one administering vaccines, right? 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 Do you track your success rate, so to speak? 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 So, depending on how we look at it. 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 It’s anywhere between about 50 to 65 % 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 that patients will go ahead and have a vaccine after they’ve attended our clinic. 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 And in the vaccine hesitancy world actually that’s quite successful. 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 This has been an interesting conversation, to be sure. 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 Dr Constantinescu, thank you so much for your time. 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 It was a real pleasure to be here, thank you for having me.