1 00:00:01,475 --> 00:00:02,204 Welcome back. 2 00:00:02,300 --> 00:00:06,740 Most Canadians won't need convincing that a COVID vaccine will be worth taking 3 00:00:07,009 --> 00:00:07,759 once it arrives. 4 00:00:07,898 --> 00:00:10,858 But, as you just herd, many Canadians have questions. 5 00:00:11,149 --> 00:00:12,759 So, to answer some of ours, 6 00:00:12,811 --> 00:00:15,841 Dr. Cora Constantinescu, an infectious disease specialist 7 00:00:15,934 --> 00:00:18,834 who works at the vaccine hesitancy clinic 8 00:00:18,980 --> 00:00:21,460 at the Alberta Children’s Hospital in Calgary. 9 00:00:21,641 --> 00:00:25,021 And Dr, I didn’t even know that a place such as your even existed. 10 00:00:25,064 --> 00:00:27,724 I mean, who gets referred to you, exactly? 11 00:00:28,125 --> 00:00:33,585 We have made it into a more of a streamline process 12 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 and have actually going out in the physician community 13 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 and told them that we are here to support them as they refer the patients into us. 14 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 And then, do you see it as your job 15 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 to sort of convince people to get vaccinated? 16 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 I see it as my job to support people as they’re making the decision to vaccinate. 17 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 So, how does that conversation sound? 18 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 I mean, where do you even begin? 19 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 I star every time reminding myself 20 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 that at the heart of each and every vaccine hesitancy appointment, 21 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 there is a parent trying 22 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 to make the best decision they can for themselves and for their family. 23 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 And it actually takes quite a lot of courage to come in 24 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 because they’re battling a lot of fear and misinformation, 25 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 and overall, a lack of trust. 26 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 So we spend quite a lot of time building rapport and trust with each family 27 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 understanding more about them so we can actually personalize 28 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 and tailor the communication and the message that we give them about the vaccinations. 29 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 And then, we work closely with public health 30 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 where they go ahead and actually administer the vaccine. 31 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 And that’s striking, that you would say there is this kind of lack of trust. 32 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 I mean, how would you even begin to advice? 33 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 I don’t know, like a provincial government, a local government, 34 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 or the federal government to create that or to build that. 35 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 Yeah, so, I really think that when we think about trust, 36 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 we have to think at the personal level, and at the population level. 37 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 And at the personal level, 38 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 it goes back to this idea of putting it into perspective 39 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 and understanding what the benefit of the vaccine 40 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 and the dangers of the diseases to each of us. 41 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 So, when it comes to COVID, for example, 42 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 I would encourage every Canadian to think of what this pandemic 43 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 and what they have done for this pandemic 44 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 and what this virus has taken away from them. 45 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 So, it might be that some have lost loved ones, 46 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 others have lost their social interaction, the ability of the kids to go to school. 47 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 There is a cost to each and everyone of us 48 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 and therefore, there is a benefit to each and everyone of us. 49 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 And then, we all have to go and have to take this vaccine 50 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 so we can show that we’re indeed in this together. 51 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 And then, when we move at the population level, 52 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 it’s really important to start building this trust. 53 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 It’s a hard task to take on 54 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 because you have to consider the complexity of human behavior, 55 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 especially about COVID-19. 56 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 And our health care institutions can't do this alone. 57 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 I don’t want this to come across as a callous question, 58 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 but, how do you know what you do works? 59 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 Because you are not the one administering vaccines, right? 60 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 Do you track your success rate, so to speak? 61 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 So, depending on how we look at it. 62 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 It’s anywhere between about 50 to 65 % 63 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 that patients will go ahead and have a vaccine after they’ve attended our clinic. 64 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 And in the vaccine hesitancy world actually that’s quite successful. 65 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 This has been an interesting conversation, to be sure. 66 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 Dr Constantinescu, thank you so much for your time. 67 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 It was a real pleasure to be here, thank you for having me.