1 00:00:06,380 --> 00:00:08,620 [sound of tools being sharpened] 2 00:00:14,860 --> 00:00:18,700 ["Jack Whitten: An Artist's Life"] 3 00:00:22,820 --> 00:00:29,880 Now I find myself doing a type of painting where my hand doesn't touch it. 4 00:00:31,560 --> 00:00:36,960 This is an adaptation of the artist's palette. 5 00:00:52,380 --> 00:00:53,440 Okay. 6 00:00:56,320 --> 00:00:58,000 About ready to go. 7 00:01:04,320 --> 00:01:06,540 Each one of these carries information-- 8 00:01:08,040 --> 00:01:09,880 it's compressed into each one-- 9 00:01:11,560 --> 00:01:15,040 because it relates so much to what's happening with modern technology. 10 00:01:15,040 --> 00:01:17,840 You know, bytes of information. Bits. 11 00:01:17,840 --> 00:01:19,160 That kind of a thing. 12 00:01:22,580 --> 00:01:24,520 I can build anything I want to build. 13 00:01:26,960 --> 00:01:28,360 I'm not a narrative painter. 14 00:01:30,320 --> 00:01:35,820 I don't do the idea, or the painting being the illustration of an idea, 15 00:01:35,820 --> 00:01:37,220 I don't do that. 16 00:01:38,020 --> 00:01:41,000 It's all about the materiality of the paint. 17 00:01:54,920 --> 00:01:57,140 I grew up in Bessemer, Alabama. 18 00:01:57,820 --> 00:02:01,939 Everything was segregated-- transportation, the buses. 19 00:02:01,940 --> 00:02:04,100 What I call American apartheid. 20 00:02:06,460 --> 00:02:09,580 I always did art. I always did painting since I was a kid. 21 00:02:10,200 --> 00:02:11,760 But it was not encouraged, 22 00:02:13,060 --> 00:02:19,180 the theory being that it's good for a hobby, but you couldn't make a living out of it. 23 00:02:24,280 --> 00:02:27,520 Lucky for me, I graduated with good grades. 24 00:02:28,320 --> 00:02:29,720 I went to Tuskegee. 25 00:02:29,720 --> 00:02:34,770 The idea was for me to be a doctor in the U.S. Air Force and a pilot. 26 00:02:34,770 --> 00:02:39,379 It was always in the back of my mind that I was an artist. 27 00:02:39,380 --> 00:02:41,860 That's what I wanted to do, I wanted to do artwork. 28 00:02:46,200 --> 00:02:49,020 Tuskegee did not have an art program, 29 00:02:49,020 --> 00:02:53,020 so I left Tuskegee to study art at Southern University. 30 00:02:54,460 --> 00:02:57,960 And that went well, for a while, 31 00:02:57,970 --> 00:03:02,459 but I got involved politically with the demonstrations. 32 00:03:02,459 --> 00:03:06,450 We organized a big civil rights march that went from 33 00:03:06,450 --> 00:03:10,460 downtown Baton Rouge to the state office building. 34 00:03:11,260 --> 00:03:16,060 It was that march, what I experienced, is what drove me out of the South. 35 00:03:16,060 --> 00:03:19,380 After that march, which turned vicious and violent, 36 00:03:20,160 --> 00:03:22,540 that politically changed me forever. 37 00:03:30,020 --> 00:03:34,560 The fall of 1960, I took a Greyhound bus from New Orleans 38 00:03:34,560 --> 00:03:36,890 to take the test at Cooper Union. 39 00:03:36,890 --> 00:03:38,220 And I was accepted. 40 00:03:39,040 --> 00:03:40,580 I studied art--painting. 41 00:03:40,580 --> 00:03:43,780 It was a good thing and it was tuition-free. 42 00:03:43,780 --> 00:03:47,640 When I came to New York, some of the first people I met was 43 00:03:47,640 --> 00:03:48,940 Romare Bearden, 44 00:03:49,840 --> 00:03:51,140 Norman Lewis, 45 00:03:52,360 --> 00:03:53,800 and Jacob Lawrence. 46 00:03:54,720 --> 00:03:58,820 And in 1960 in New York City, the scene was open. 47 00:03:58,820 --> 00:04:00,840 Bill de Kooning would talk to you! 48 00:04:01,880 --> 00:04:06,219 I had a dialogue, what I call, on both sides of the divide. 49 00:04:06,220 --> 00:04:10,080 I don't make a distinction between there being Black, White, and whatever. 50 00:04:10,080 --> 00:04:11,060 I really don't. 51 00:04:11,060 --> 00:04:14,200 If they've got information and my instincts tell me, 52 00:04:14,200 --> 00:04:15,620 "Boy, you got to meet that person"-- 53 00:04:15,620 --> 00:04:18,860 "You got to find out what they're doing," "you have to understand this stuff"-- 54 00:04:18,860 --> 00:04:19,980 I'd reach out. 55 00:04:20,960 --> 00:04:25,280 The young artist has to have something to react to. 56 00:04:27,280 --> 00:04:30,300 My first influence was Arshile Gorky. 57 00:04:31,660 --> 00:04:34,360 Nobody springs forth from the head of Zeus! 58 00:04:34,800 --> 00:04:36,380 That was my first influence. 59 00:04:36,980 --> 00:04:38,740 Early surrealism. 60 00:04:39,460 --> 00:04:41,340 Figurative expressionism. 61 00:04:41,840 --> 00:04:46,760 It wasn't until the end of the '60s, though, that I made a drastic change 62 00:04:46,760 --> 00:04:52,400 toward more conceptual ideas that dealt with the materiality of paint. 63 00:04:53,700 --> 00:04:56,620 I removed all the spectrum color. 64 00:04:57,340 --> 00:04:59,580 Made a big move to acrylic. 65 00:04:59,580 --> 00:05:01,020 Restructured the studio. 66 00:05:01,020 --> 00:05:04,300 Restructured my thinking about painting. 67 00:05:05,460 --> 00:05:06,840 I built a tool. 68 00:05:06,840 --> 00:05:08,700 I called it "the developer." 69 00:05:10,360 --> 00:05:12,140 With that tool, 70 00:05:12,140 --> 00:05:18,720 I could move large bodies of acrylic paint across the surface of the canvas. 71 00:05:19,400 --> 00:05:22,700 I call them "slab" paintings. S-L-A-B. 72 00:05:23,340 --> 00:05:24,980 It became a slab. 73 00:05:26,280 --> 00:05:30,250 I wanted a painting to exist as a single line-- 74 00:05:30,250 --> 00:05:33,389 one gesture, three seconds. 75 00:05:33,389 --> 00:05:35,460 That's why I built that big tool. 76 00:05:37,460 --> 00:05:41,360 I spent ten years working on that drawing board. 77 00:05:43,380 --> 00:05:46,220 Ten years bent over, stooped down. 78 00:05:46,220 --> 00:05:47,760 I can't do that no more. 79 00:05:48,660 --> 00:05:53,580 There comes a time when the body will not accept that type of abuse-- 80 00:05:53,580 --> 00:05:54,860 and it was abuse. 81 00:05:55,340 --> 00:05:58,800 The slab is what led me into the tesserae. 82 00:06:01,480 --> 00:06:06,080 It's a chunk of acrylic that has been cut from a large slab of acrylic. 83 00:06:06,880 --> 00:06:12,340 My interest, of course, is always about how I can use it to direct the light. 84 00:06:13,420 --> 00:06:18,110 So with these surfaces, depending on how I place them, 85 00:06:18,110 --> 00:06:19,780 I can direct the light. 86 00:06:19,780 --> 00:06:21,320 You see how it changes? 87 00:06:32,600 --> 00:06:34,880 That painting came out of a lot of pain. 88 00:06:35,700 --> 00:06:40,080 I started that painting and then I developed a serious illness. 89 00:06:42,940 --> 00:06:45,140 I spent a month in the hospital. 90 00:06:47,420 --> 00:06:49,300 So that knocked me on my ass. 91 00:06:50,160 --> 00:06:53,620 And that painting was a way of hitting back. 92 00:06:53,620 --> 00:06:54,840 [LAUGHS] 93 00:06:55,520 --> 00:06:58,600 I'm not going to let this shit defeat me, you know? 94 00:07:02,100 --> 00:07:03,860 It's one of the "Black Monoliths." 95 00:07:05,200 --> 00:07:10,960 It's called, "Six Kinky Strings: For Chuck Berry." 96 00:07:12,320 --> 00:07:14,990 And that title comes from the fact that, 97 00:07:14,990 --> 00:07:18,640 anybody who knows about the personality of Chuck Berry, he did some weird shit. 98 00:07:24,600 --> 00:07:28,940 The "Black Monolith" is a series of paintings that I've been doing for a number of years, though. 99 00:07:30,160 --> 00:07:33,000 It started back in the early '80s. 100 00:07:34,840 --> 00:07:38,980 It's a Black person who has contributed a lot to society. 101 00:07:41,040 --> 00:07:45,280 So I make it my business to memorialize those people. 102 00:07:47,689 --> 00:07:52,580 And I find that each one, I have to locate the essence of that person. 103 00:07:52,580 --> 00:07:54,500 That person becomes a symbol 104 00:07:56,500 --> 00:07:58,860 and I build that into the paint. 105 00:08:16,420 --> 00:08:19,699 I want to be remembered as a very average guy 106 00:08:19,700 --> 00:08:23,180 who pretty much stays to himself. 107 00:08:23,180 --> 00:08:24,400 [LAUGHS] 108 00:08:30,100 --> 00:08:32,940 Dedicated worker. But on top of that... 109 00:08:32,940 --> 00:08:37,600 The question was asked to Count Basie once, 110 00:08:37,600 --> 00:08:41,040 he says, "I just want to go down as one of the boys." 111 00:08:41,620 --> 00:08:45,420 There was a kind of a modesty in that that I've always admired. 112 00:08:45,420 --> 00:08:48,500 Nothing big, just one of the boys. 113 00:08:49,380 --> 00:08:50,760 I like that. 114 00:08:52,880 --> 00:08:58,060 ["Quantum Wall, VIII (For Arshile Gorky, My First Love In Painting)"] 115 00:08:58,780 --> 00:09:05,000 [Jack Whitten (1939–2018), In Memoriam]