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Paul McCarthy: "Piccadilly Circus"

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I questioned it, in the beginning, as to whether to do it.

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Like, too didactic. Stay away from it. Too political. Stay away from it.

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Bin Laden, Bush, Queen... It was too specific.

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These are like puppets, you know.

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Hauser and Wirth--the gallery--was looking to...

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Start a gallery in London, and they had some buildings they were looking at.

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I was in London, and they invited me to go look at one building they were looking at.

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And it was this bank in Piccadilly. It had been an operating bank, I think, up until a few years before that.

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So, the teller windows were all there, everything was in place.

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And I went to see it one night. It had a balcony, and I was kind of standing at the balcony.

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I said, "Wow it would be great to shoot a film or a video in this building."

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I'm interested in how the camera sees it and what the forms are.

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One way I see it is really quite beautiful. In another way, there's certain revulsion of smashing food.

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The drawer gets completely caked with food, and it was never taken out of the drawer, and later rots.

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Like in one layer, I kind of know that it creates a reaction. In another way, it's quite beautiful, the rotting food, you know.

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This thing of.. Films made like play. You know, like kids putting on plays.

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Or films made that way. You just go "Okay, I'll be the Queen, you be Bush. Okay, we're going to have a party now."

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That kind of direction, as opposed to a scripted, constructed, very loose, very much like pretend-and-play.

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I knew that this part where Bush would cut his head, you know, was all going to happen. I knew that would take place.

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And I knew the Queens would paint. But in a way I didn't know...

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It was just like an improvisation between these people with the paint and the knives and the cutting,

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And that that would go on for a period of time, right.

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I knew, by putting myself and these three people that I knew in that situation, they would respond and improvise off of each other.

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And I knew by putting certain things in the room to give them to use, they would feed off of all that.

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[smothered sound]... Don't move!

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I don't know whether I was looking for truth in there. I was just building a piece.

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I was making a work of art.