[Script Info] Title: [Events] Format: Layer, Start, End, Style, Name, MarginL, MarginR, MarginV, Effect, Text Dialogue: 0,0:00:00.44,0:00:03.85,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Welcome to this video!\NI'm so excited to talk about church here. Dialogue: 0,0:00:03.85,0:00:07.33,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I have Justin, I have Brook,\Nand we have little Zion with us, Dialogue: 0,0:00:07.33,0:00:09.52,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the youngest of four kids. Dialogue: 0,0:00:09.52,0:00:11.92,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And we want to talk about church. Dialogue: 0,0:00:11.92,0:00:15.50,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I have just come out with a new book\Ncalled "The Call of Jesus" Dialogue: 0,0:00:15.50,0:00:20.62,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and I'm just excited about it. And I really \Nbelieve it's time to see a new movement, Dialogue: 0,0:00:20.62,0:00:26.100,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,when it comes to seeing new, organic, \Npowerful house fellowships start. Dialogue: 0,0:00:28.25,0:00:30.40,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,We will hear their story,\Nwhat they have seen. Dialogue: 0,0:00:30.40,0:00:34.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I want to say that, many years ago,\Nwhen I got introduced to the house church, Dialogue: 0,0:00:34.99,0:00:38.06,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,organic church, simple church,\Nit has many names. Dialogue: 0,0:00:38.06,0:00:42.33,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I was a part of a network of Simple church\Nin Europe, before we came to America. Dialogue: 0,0:00:42.93,0:00:45.17,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,There were many, many things \Nthat were good, Dialogue: 0,0:00:45.17,0:00:48.84,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but when I took a turn around,\Nmuch of this, Dialogue: 0,0:00:48.84,0:00:51.01,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I felt there was something that was\Nmissing Dialogue: 0,0:00:51.01,0:00:55.18,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and some of the things I saw,\Nin some of those circles, Dialogue: 0,0:00:55.18,0:01:01.20,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,we talk so much about the importance\Nof having an organic structure. Dialogue: 0,0:01:01.20,0:01:03.49,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And I believe in that. Dialogue: 0,0:01:03.49,0:01:08.18,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But, we didn't talk so much about\Nthe wine you put into the wineskins. Dialogue: 0,0:01:09.26,0:01:13.58,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,You can have a good wineskin, but\Nif you put a wrong wine in it, Dialogue: 0,0:01:13.58,0:01:15.58,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,it doesn't change anything. Dialogue: 0,0:01:16.13,0:01:21.28,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And what I really see now,\NI hope it will be clear in my new book, Dialogue: 0,0:01:22.00,0:01:25.65,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,it's really first and foremost about the life. Dialogue: 0,0:01:25.65,0:01:31.45,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It's about the gospel, it's about discipleship,\Nit's about setting people truly free, Dialogue: 0,0:01:31.45,0:01:34.65,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,healing the sick, casting out demons\Nand all of that, Dialogue: 0,0:01:34.65,0:01:41.10,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but when that is correct,\Nif you then put it in the old system, Dialogue: 0,0:01:41.10,0:01:42.67,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,you will break it. Dialogue: 0,0:01:42.67,0:01:46.48,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But if you put it in the good structure,\Nyou will multiply it. Dialogue: 0,0:01:46.48,0:01:50.74,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And this is what we want to talk about here.\NI hope you are ready. Dialogue: 0,0:01:52.13,0:01:55.49,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,You have an amazing story.\NYou experienced God. Dialogue: 0,0:01:56.42,0:02:02.27,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,You have been on a mission trip in Africa\Nand Nepal. You've been all over. Dialogue: 0,0:02:02.27,0:02:06.61,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But 18 months ago you really started\Nwith house fellowships. Dialogue: 0,0:02:07.37,0:02:10.80,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The focus was not house fellowships.\NThe focus was: let's make disciples. Dialogue: 0,0:02:10.80,0:02:14.93,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Can you say what brought you there\Nand then a little what have happened? Dialogue: 0,0:02:15.31,0:02:21.24,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,We noticed that there was lack in people,\Nin the body of Christ, actually, obeying Jesus. Dialogue: 0,0:02:21.24,0:02:24.64,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,That it was very knowledge based. \NSo we took it, kind of upon ourselves. Dialogue: 0,0:02:24.64,0:02:29.01,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,We felt the Lord was asking us to bring \Npeople in our home for discipleship, Dialogue: 0,0:02:29.36,0:02:32.76,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,which later ended up forming into\Nactual churches, Dialogue: 0,0:02:32.97,0:02:36.58,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,which is great because the command\Nis to make disciples. Dialogue: 0,0:02:36.58,0:02:40.04,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So, when we brought people in\Nwe realized that there was a lack Dialogue: 0,0:02:40.04,0:02:43.15,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,in a lot of just a foundations\Nof the faith. Dialogue: 0,0:02:43.47,0:02:47.04,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Not only people didn't understand\Nhow to share their own faith, Dialogue: 0,0:02:47.04,0:02:50.59,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,they had not experienced parts \Nof the gospel themselves. Dialogue: 0,0:02:50.59,0:02:53.81,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And so, one of the most important\Nthings, that I think, Dialogue: 0,0:02:54.55,0:02:58.34,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,is needs to be discussed,\Nit needs to be brought up, Dialogue: 0,0:02:58.34,0:03:03.67,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,whether you're speaking with individual\Nor a group, a community of faith, Dialogue: 0,0:03:03.67,0:03:05.39,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,is the gospel itself. Dialogue: 0,0:03:05.39,0:03:10.04,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,To make sure that everybody has fully\Nwalked through repentance towards God, Dialogue: 0,0:03:10.04,0:03:12.34,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that they have received the Holy Spirit, Dialogue: 0,0:03:12.34,0:03:16.66,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that they've cut off the old life \Nthrough water baptism, all those things, Dialogue: 0,0:03:16.66,0:03:19.08,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and once they've experienced those things,\Nthey become stable, Dialogue: 0,0:03:19.08,0:03:22.66,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,then you can begin to equip and train\Nto go out in ministry. Dialogue: 0,0:03:22.66,0:03:27.37,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,- So, you, actually, met with church people?\N- Yes. Dialogue: 0,0:03:27.88,0:03:31.100,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And you saw church people got what\Nthey were lacking. Dialogue: 0,0:03:31.100,0:03:36.11,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It could be repentance, for some people\Nit could be true baptism, lay down the old life, Dialogue: 0,0:03:36.11,0:03:40.88,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,it could be the Holy Spirit, or they walked\Nwith unforgiveness and hurt in their lives Dialogue: 0,0:03:40.88,0:03:43.25,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and they need to put it off\Nand they need deliverance. Dialogue: 0,0:03:43.25,0:03:46.20,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And then you started to see people\Nget set free. Is that correct? Dialogue: 0,0:03:46.20,0:03:47.32,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,That's right. Dialogue: 0,0:03:47.32,0:03:49.23,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And you started to meet\Nand it just started to grow? Dialogue: 0,0:03:49.23,0:03:51.15,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Yeah, absolutely. Dialogue: 0,0:03:51.30,0:03:55.03,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,We started meeting with individuals.\NOnce they would get that foundation laid Dialogue: 0,0:03:55.03,0:03:59.01,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and naturally the thing that takes\Nplace after that is Dialogue: 0,0:03:59.01,0:04:01.26,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,they start to want to share \Nwith other people. Dialogue: 0,0:04:01.43,0:04:02.66,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And we encouraged that. Dialogue: 0,0:04:02.66,0:04:06.27,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Like, now you freely have been given,\Nso freely go give out what you've been given. Dialogue: 0,0:04:06.27,0:04:08.03,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,You can't keep it for yourself. Dialogue: 0,0:04:08.34,0:04:11.54,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So, we would teach and equip \Non the things of practical ways Dialogue: 0,0:04:11.54,0:04:14.54,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,you can go and share what just\Ntook place in your life, Dialogue: 0,0:04:14.54,0:04:18.07,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and help them understand the gospel\Nand help them feel comfortable Dialogue: 0,0:04:18.07,0:04:20.30,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,on how to share that with people,\Nso it starts with family members Dialogue: 0,0:04:20.30,0:04:23.58,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and friends, and things like that.\Nin the matter of weeks we were seeing Dialogue: 0,0:04:23.58,0:04:27.61,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,multiplication take place. And so that\Nperson in this original group Dialogue: 0,0:04:27.61,0:04:30.90,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that we started with, we would say:\NNow it's your turn to take those people Dialogue: 0,0:04:30.90,0:04:34.86,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,into your home. Don't bring them back here, \Nso where we can become a big church Dialogue: 0,0:04:34.86,0:04:39.24,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,in a matter of weeks. Take them into\Ntheir home or into your home, Dialogue: 0,0:04:39.24,0:04:43.52,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,lay the foundation of the gospel,\Nmake sure they're born again properly, Dialogue: 0,0:04:43.52,0:04:46.58,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and then you start to lead them.\NAll you have to do is be slightly farther Dialogue: 0,0:04:46.58,0:04:48.56,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,than the person that you're discipling. Dialogue: 0,0:04:48.56,0:04:51.16,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And if you don't know the question\Nthey have, you have others who do. Dialogue: 0,0:04:51.16,0:04:53.04,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So you come to them\Nand you ask questions. Dialogue: 0,0:04:55.58,0:04:59.27,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The last 18 years you have started\Nnine fellowships and it's growing... Dialogue: 0,0:04:59.27,0:05:00.43,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,18 months. Dialogue: 0,0:05:00.43,0:05:04.74,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,18 months, sorry. So, in 18 months \Nnine fellowships and it's growing. Dialogue: 0,0:05:05.59,0:05:09.10,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,One thing that really needs to be there,\Nis what we read in the Bible, Dialogue: 0,0:05:09.10,0:05:11.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the early disciples were forbidden \Nto tell about Jesus, Dialogue: 0,0:05:11.99,0:05:15.80,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but they said: We cannot stop telling\Nabout what we've seen and heard. Dialogue: 0,0:05:16.14,0:05:19.92,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The woman at the well, she ran down\Nand told everyone in Samaria: Dialogue: 0,0:05:19.92,0:05:23.36,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Hey, I met a guy who told me everything,\Nwho I am. Dialogue: 0,0:05:23.36,0:05:29.70,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And there was excitement when people\Nreally experienced that true life. Dialogue: 0,0:05:29.70,0:05:33.94,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And that needs to be the foundation.\NThat is the wine - that true life. Dialogue: 0,0:05:33.94,0:05:37.29,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And if you study the house church movement\Nin China, Dialogue: 0,0:05:38.02,0:05:43.24,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I know that 90% of all of those, \Nwhen they started, many years ago, Dialogue: 0,0:05:43.58,0:05:47.74,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,they were like evangelists, because\Nthey could not stop telling about it. Dialogue: 0,0:05:48.16,0:05:53.74,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So, it's not like: Hey, now we take\Nchurch people and we need to just Dialogue: 0,0:05:53.74,0:05:55.44,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,whip them and say: \NYou have to tell about Jesus. Dialogue: 0,0:05:55.44,0:05:58.73,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,No, we take church people,\Nwe get them soundly saved and born again Dialogue: 0,0:05:58.73,0:06:03.91,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and excited about the life, and then \Nthe growth, somehow, happens automatically. Dialogue: 0,0:06:03.91,0:06:05.98,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So, how did the growth start to happen? Dialogue: 0,0:06:06.20,0:06:09.05,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Is it from person to person,\Nrelationships? Dialogue: 0,0:06:09.05,0:06:11.26,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Yes. Many times through relationships, Dialogue: 0,0:06:11.26,0:06:14.67,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but the thing I want to speak about also\Nis that... Dialogue: 0,0:06:15.83,0:06:18.94,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,In all of the excitement in the beginning,\Nwhen people were being set free, Dialogue: 0,0:06:18.94,0:06:22.19,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,in the fellowship church people\Nbeing set free, filled with the Holy Spirit, Dialogue: 0,0:06:22.19,0:06:24.36,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,delivered, all those things,\Nit's very exciting, Dialogue: 0,0:06:24.36,0:06:28.59,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but once everybody is stable, \Nif you don't share this message Dialogue: 0,0:06:28.59,0:06:32.33,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,with your community, if you don't continue \Nto see the power of God work through, Dialogue: 0,0:06:32.33,0:06:36.71,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,becomes very boring, because your\Neyes begin to turn towards yourself. Dialogue: 0,0:06:36.71,0:06:40.92,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And what we've noticed is that, they had\Na certain period of time after some months, Dialogue: 0,0:06:40.92,0:06:44.38,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,where everybody was stable, where we\Nhad to make sure that Dialogue: 0,0:06:44.38,0:06:47.72,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,when we came together,\Nour focus was on Jesus Christ. Dialogue: 0,0:06:47.72,0:06:51.30,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And when our focus was on Jesus Christ\Nbeing in our meetings, Dialogue: 0,0:06:51.30,0:06:56.12,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,He would remind us of the mission. \NAnd that mission is not church. Dialogue: 0,0:06:56.12,0:06:58.86,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Right? The church, actually, has a mission. Dialogue: 0,0:06:58.86,0:07:01.95,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So, the whole goal is not for us \Nto just get together. Dialogue: 0,0:07:01.95,0:07:05.16,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It's to get together so we can\Nencourage, edify and equip each other Dialogue: 0,0:07:05.16,0:07:08.50,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,in the presence of Christ and go out \Nand share the gospel with the world. Dialogue: 0,0:07:08.50,0:07:12.43,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,In the introduction in my book\N"The Call of Jesus" I talk about three things; Dialogue: 0,0:07:12.43,0:07:15.11,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I talk about the church, the mission\Nand Christ. Dialogue: 0,0:07:15.11,0:07:19.48,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,That very often we start with the church,\Nand our system, and our culture, Dialogue: 0,0:07:19.48,0:07:22.62,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and traditions of men, and out of that\Nchurch building, Dialogue: 0,0:07:22.62,0:07:26.61,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,with everything that comes with it,\Nwe think: Oh, we ought to do mission, Dialogue: 0,0:07:26.61,0:07:31.74,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and in the middle of mission...\Nbecause it's in the box now, Dialogue: 0,0:07:31.74,0:07:33.26,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,we forget Christ. Dialogue: 0,0:07:33.26,0:07:37.94,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But if we turn upside down,\Nand we start with Christ... Dialogue: 0,0:07:37.94,0:07:43.17,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,you can never look at Christ and say:\NOh, I have seen it all. Dialogue: 0,0:07:43.17,0:07:46.51,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,There is always excitement.\NThere is always something new. Dialogue: 0,0:07:46.51,0:07:50.32,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And then it's about Him and obeying Him\Nand following Him, Dialogue: 0,0:07:50.32,0:07:54.55,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and then we do mission, \Nnot in our way, but in His way, Dialogue: 0,0:07:54.55,0:07:56.71,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and we will automatically end up \Nwith church. Dialogue: 0,0:07:56.71,0:07:59.28,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And also what you said, \Nit was not like... Dialogue: 0,0:07:59.28,0:08:03.36,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Jesus has not said: Go out, do church.\NAnd maybe disciple those people. Dialogue: 0,0:08:03.36,0:08:05.71,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,He said: Go out, make disciples,\Nand I will build my church. Dialogue: 0,0:08:05.71,0:08:10.84,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It was your focus in the beginning.\NIt was just like, how do we disciple people, Dialogue: 0,0:08:10.84,0:08:15.04,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,how do we build people up,\Nand you saw how Jesus was building Dialogue: 0,0:08:15.04,0:08:17.36,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,them as living stones together.\N- That's right. Dialogue: 0,0:08:17.36,0:08:20.53,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,How did it look like? Can you come \Nwith an example how one person Dialogue: 0,0:08:20.53,0:08:23.97,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,knew somebody, and knew somebody,\Nand how it forms? Dialogue: 0,0:08:24.39,0:08:30.13,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,We had a time where we started \Nwith this group of five couples Dialogue: 0,0:08:30.13,0:08:33.84,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and we were meeting together, \Nand we made sure they were born again, Dialogue: 0,0:08:33.84,0:08:38.29,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and like you said: Christ was the forefront,\Nyour relationship with Him, Dialogue: 0,0:08:38.29,0:08:42.59,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and now you have a mission to go out\Ninto the world and to make disciples of yourself Dialogue: 0,0:08:42.59,0:08:46.52,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and then the church faith formed,\Nso once we had those three revelations, Dialogue: 0,0:08:46.52,0:08:50.79,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,it just naturally took place.\NSo, for instance, we had one couple Dialogue: 0,0:08:50.79,0:08:54.60,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,who started to share with their parents.\NAnd their parents were like: Dialogue: 0,0:08:54.60,0:08:57.92,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Okay, we want to know more.\NSo they had us come over. Dialogue: 0,0:08:57.92,0:09:00.41,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And we shared with their parents\Nwhat was going on, and eventually, Dialogue: 0,0:09:00.41,0:09:05.14,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,their parents got delivered and born again.\NAnd now in that group of people Dialogue: 0,0:09:05.14,0:09:09.94,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,those parents are meeting with their\Nchildren and they are now multiplying Dialogue: 0,0:09:09.94,0:09:13.56,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and that person there were two parents,\Nthey are in traditional church right now, Dialogue: 0,0:09:13.88,0:09:17.65,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,she's actually has a paid position\Nin the church and she's stepping down, Dialogue: 0,0:09:17.65,0:09:21.36,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and she's actually taught sharing\Nher faith with her neighbor Dialogue: 0,0:09:21.36,0:09:24.02,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and other people in the church,\Nand they're like: Tell me more. Dialogue: 0,0:09:24.02,0:09:27.96,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And they're becoming interested.\NAnd out of that a natural family is birthed, Dialogue: 0,0:09:27.96,0:09:31.16,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,in that place. So, that's hoped to happen\Nover and over again. Dialogue: 0,0:09:31.16,0:09:34.41,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,One family, we went into their home,\Nwe started ministering and talking Dialogue: 0,0:09:34.41,0:09:37.89,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to them about what is church.\NLike, church is not a building, Dialogue: 0,0:09:37.89,0:09:41.01,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,it's not an event. You are the church.\NSo, why do you go to church Dialogue: 0,0:09:41.01,0:09:45.35,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and do these rituals and these\Ntraditions that nullify the Word of God? Dialogue: 0,0:09:45.35,0:09:48.73,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,You have to, actually, take what\Nyou're learning in the Scriptures Dialogue: 0,0:09:48.73,0:09:51.80,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and give it to other people's lives.\NAnd they're like: We have seven couples Dialogue: 0,0:09:51.80,0:09:55.02,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that I know would wanna do this.\NAnd I said: Meet with them, Dialogue: 0,0:09:55.02,0:09:57.10,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,break bread with them, \Ntake communion with them, Dialogue: 0,0:09:57.10,0:10:00.52,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,speak about holiness, speak about \Nthe gospel and see what will happen. Dialogue: 0,0:10:00.52,0:10:03.56,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So, they brought them in and started\Nrelationship with these couples. Dialogue: 0,0:10:03.56,0:10:06.80,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And then they asked us to come in and lay \Na foundation of the gospel, so we did. Dialogue: 0,0:10:06.80,0:10:10.73,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And some of these people were like\Ndeacons in churches. Dialogue: 0,0:10:10.73,0:10:13.42,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And they are repenting for the first time\Nin their lives. Dialogue: 0,0:10:13.42,0:10:15.84,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,They're being baptized.\NThey're getting delivered. Dialogue: 0,0:10:15.84,0:10:18.61,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And right there you have a group\Nof 20 people meeting together, Dialogue: 0,0:10:18.61,0:10:23.75,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,all set free, all filled with the Holy Spirit,\Nof one truth, and now they are multiplying. Dialogue: 0,0:10:23.75,0:10:27.11,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,That group, there's two couples in there\Nthat are ready to make disciples Dialogue: 0,0:10:27.11,0:10:30.95,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and they are staring their own groups\Nthat we have nothing to do with. Dialogue: 0,0:10:30.95,0:10:34.30,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Because we don't know those people. \NThose people aren't gonna listen to us. Dialogue: 0,0:10:34.30,0:10:37.05,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,They don't know who we are.\NSo the people that are leading that group Dialogue: 0,0:10:37.05,0:10:40.05,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,are gonna help these disciples start\Ntheir own fellowship. Dialogue: 0,0:10:40.05,0:10:43.70,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And that's how it naturally multiplies \Nand it starts slow in the beginning, Dialogue: 0,0:10:43.70,0:10:46.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,because of small in number, but\Nwhen multiplication gets bigger in number, Dialogue: 0,0:10:46.99,0:10:49.36,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,it's a mass number, \Nthat comes to know Christ. Dialogue: 0,0:10:49.36,0:10:51.23,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And these aren't just half-hearted\Ndisciples. Dialogue: 0,0:10:51.23,0:10:53.93,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,They are fully sold out surrendered \Npeople who are ready Dialogue: 0,0:10:53.93,0:10:56.14,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to take the Great Commission \Nto the ends of the earth. Dialogue: 0,0:10:56.14,0:10:59.10,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And it starts in one place.\NSo, it's exciting. Dialogue: 0,0:10:59.39,0:11:05.42,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,You said so many amazing things here.\NI want to say, it started here, with... Dialogue: 0,0:11:05.42,0:11:07.44,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,- Obedience with two people.\N- Two people. Dialogue: 0,0:11:07.44,0:11:10.81,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Those two people had something \Nyou don't have. Dialogue: 0,0:11:10.81,0:11:15.68,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,They had a relationship.\NThey had a circle of people around them. Dialogue: 0,0:11:15.68,0:11:17.97,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But you had something those two people\Ndid not have. Dialogue: 0,0:11:17.97,0:11:20.25,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,You have the know-how and knowledge. Dialogue: 0,0:11:20.69,0:11:25.59,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And that became a beautiful contact point,\Nwhere they had the relationship, Dialogue: 0,0:11:25.59,0:11:30.79,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,you have the knowledge, \Nand you come together, and you go in, Dialogue: 0,0:11:30.79,0:11:36.43,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and you impact their network. \NTheir network get influenced Dialogue: 0,0:11:36.43,0:11:39.60,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and they get discipled at the same time,\Nbecause they see how you're doing, Dialogue: 0,0:11:39.60,0:11:43.49,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and then they have a network. \NAnd it's spreading from this. Dialogue: 0,0:11:43.89,0:11:46.05,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I talk about that in my book. Dialogue: 0,0:11:48.26,0:11:52.77,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I believe we are called to go out\Nand find a person of peace. Jesus said that. Dialogue: 0,0:11:52.77,0:11:57.47,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But He also said: When you find \Na person of peace, stay in their house. Dialogue: 0,0:11:57.47,0:12:00.02,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,- Don't move from house to house.\N- That's right. Dialogue: 0,0:12:00.02,0:12:05.75,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Because when we come into a household,\Noikos or network, Dialogue: 0,0:12:06.15,0:12:09.42,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,we want to impact everyone in that network. Dialogue: 0,0:12:10.81,0:12:15.44,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I believe in going out on the street, but\Nif you already have people Dialogue: 0,0:12:15.44,0:12:18.42,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,you are working with in your network,\Ndon't leave them and go out Dialogue: 0,0:12:18.42,0:12:22.18,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to try to build new relationships,\Nwhen you have people there. Dialogue: 0,0:12:22.18,0:12:25.40,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Because out on the street\Nit can be difficult, Dialogue: 0,0:12:25.40,0:12:29.09,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,because there is that skepticism \Nand you first need to build that relationship. Dialogue: 0,0:12:29.09,0:12:32.05,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,- And it's not natural. - No.\N- Relationship is natural. Dialogue: 0,0:12:32.05,0:12:35.25,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So, I would say, work with what you have,\Nwork with what you have, Dialogue: 0,0:12:35.25,0:12:38.97,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but if you suddenly come to a stop\Nand there is no more to build Dialogue: 0,0:12:38.97,0:12:44.03,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,within that relationship, then you need\Nto go out and build new relationships. Dialogue: 0,0:12:44.03,0:12:47.06,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But when you have relationship,\Nwork with relationship, Dialogue: 0,0:12:47.06,0:12:49.21,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,from person to person,\Nfrom person to person. Dialogue: 0,0:12:49.21,0:12:52.80,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And Jesus even says, like, look up,\Nthe harvest is plentiful, Dialogue: 0,0:12:52.80,0:12:55.34,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but the laborers are few.\NSo, find the laborer. Dialogue: 0,0:12:55.34,0:12:57.30,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Where you're gonna find them?\NIn the harvest. Dialogue: 0,0:12:57.30,0:13:01.16,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So you find that laborer, in the harvest,\Nyou give them everything you have, Dialogue: 0,0:13:01.16,0:13:03.49,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and that person will reap of the harvest\Nof 30, Dialogue: 0,0:13:03.49,0:13:06.47,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and the next will reap the harvest of 60,\Nand of 100, Dialogue: 0,0:13:06.47,0:13:08.76,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and it all goes to credit back to where\Nit started, Dialogue: 0,0:13:08.76,0:13:10.62,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but no one knows where it started from. Dialogue: 0,0:13:11.01,0:13:14.34,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But that's the beauty of multiplication. \NAnd that's what Jesus would do. Dialogue: 0,0:13:14.34,0:13:17.09,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,If you just partner with what He's already\Nspoken and commanded, Dialogue: 0,0:13:17.09,0:13:19.06,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,He'll breathe life onto that Dialogue: 0,0:13:19.06,0:13:22.10,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and that will become a movement. Dialogue: 0,0:13:22.10,0:13:25.45,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But if we sit here, like: \NWhat is my call? What am I called to do? Dialogue: 0,0:13:25.45,0:13:28.96,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Okay, I got this special call.\NGod, come bless this call on my life, Dialogue: 0,0:13:28.96,0:13:31.53,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that I came up with, He won't bless that. Dialogue: 0,0:13:31.53,0:13:37.34,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Bless, get a partnership and get \Ndoing what He already blessed. Dialogue: 0,0:13:37.34,0:13:40.29,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And He said: Go make disciples. \NYou build the people, He'll build the church. Dialogue: 0,0:13:40.48,0:13:42.05,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It's as simple as that. Dialogue: 0,0:13:42.18,0:13:46.30,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Keep it simple in that way, like you said;\Nthe gospel, the gospel every time. Dialogue: 0,0:13:46.30,0:13:50.75,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The gospel. And then, what you said also,\Nit was good, go, meet with them, Dialogue: 0,0:13:50.75,0:13:53.43,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,break the bread, communion,\Nbreak the bread. Dialogue: 0,0:13:53.43,0:13:56.86,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Have fellowship where you come\Ntogether, you eat together. Dialogue: 0,0:13:56.86,0:14:00.43,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,There is something in connecting people.\NJesus said: When you go to a house, Dialogue: 0,0:14:00.43,0:14:04.82,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,eat and drink what they serve.\NBut not only eating and drinking. Dialogue: 0,0:14:04.82,0:14:09.09,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It's also a point where you really\Nfocus on God and the mission, Dialogue: 0,0:14:09.09,0:14:12.90,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,why are we here, and then you start\Nto minister. Dialogue: 0,0:14:12.90,0:14:16.83,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And you can do that. It went from... Dialogue: 0,0:14:18.25,0:14:23.89,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,How do you do it, because sometimes\Nyou get many relationships, at one time, Dialogue: 0,0:14:23.89,0:14:27.10,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but very often is also just one\Nrelationship, and one relationship, Dialogue: 0,0:14:27.10,0:14:29.22,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and one relationship, and then\Nyou end up with many. Dialogue: 0,0:14:29.22,0:14:31.37,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,How did you see this go? Dialogue: 0,0:14:31.37,0:14:34.56,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Lot of times that'll be with one person\Nor one couple, Dialogue: 0,0:14:34.56,0:14:37.100,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and we'll continue to meet with them\None on one, or as a couple, Dialogue: 0,0:14:38.24,0:14:41.19,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,figuring out where they're at,\Nhelping them to get on their feet, Dialogue: 0,0:14:41.19,0:14:43.90,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,giving them tools necessary to get\Ntheir foundations. Dialogue: 0,0:14:43.90,0:14:48.76,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But a lot of times, while we're doing that,\NGod will have another couple here, Dialogue: 0,0:14:48.76,0:14:52.52,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and another person here, and here,\Nand then every single time Dialogue: 0,0:14:52.52,0:14:56.89,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,He will bring them together. Sometimes\Nthere'll be relationships Dialogue: 0,0:14:56.89,0:14:59.76,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,we didn't even know they knew each other\Nthree years ago. Dialogue: 0,0:15:00.12,0:15:05.10,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So, when God brings this group together,\Nlike, we're discipling, Dialogue: 0,0:15:05.10,0:15:09.14,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and then He build, and He does it,\Nand He places it together. Dialogue: 0,0:15:09.38,0:15:12.80,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I pray every single day Lord of the harvest,\Nat 10:02, Lord of the harvest, Dialogue: 0,0:15:12.80,0:15:17.08,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,sent forth laborers, and that prayer\Nis answered because He sends people, Dialogue: 0,0:15:17.08,0:15:20.34,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,we disciple them, point them to Jesus,\Nteach them how to obey, Dialogue: 0,0:15:20.34,0:15:21.59,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and He brings them together. Dialogue: 0,0:15:21.59,0:15:24.60,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And all we have to do is say: Yeah, okay. Dialogue: 0,0:15:25.13,0:15:28.17,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And the beauty of when you bring them\Ntogether, you stir one another up to Dialogue: 0,0:15:28.17,0:15:32.39,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,a good work. Because if you come together\Njust to eat bread, Dialogue: 0,0:15:32.39,0:15:35.34,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,you don't go out want to save the world.\NBut we have one girl in our fellowship, Dialogue: 0,0:15:35.34,0:15:37.75,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,we did two nights ago, she said: \NWhen I leave here, Dialogue: 0,0:15:37.75,0:15:40.34,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I am ready to take on the world, \Nbecause I know I'm capable, Dialogue: 0,0:15:40.34,0:15:43.13,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,because I've been poured into,\NI've been edified, I've been stirred up, Dialogue: 0,0:15:43.13,0:15:45.22,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and now I need to go out make\Na disciple on my life. Dialogue: 0,0:15:45.22,0:15:47.60,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And my eyes are open: Who is ready?\NWho is hungry? Dialogue: 0,0:15:47.60,0:15:50.86,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And that person then reproduces\Nin someone else's life. Dialogue: 0,0:15:52.02,0:15:55.85,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,If you have a group of 100 people\Nin a traditional church and you said: Dialogue: 0,0:15:56.09,0:16:00.68,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,How many here want to be a pastor\Nin a megachurch? Up with your hands. Dialogue: 0,0:16:01.86,0:16:05.75,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Work, administration, money,\Nresponsibilities, stress. Dialogue: 0,0:16:05.75,0:16:10.49,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,95% of all pastors are getting stressful. \NWho wants that job? Dialogue: 0,0:16:10.49,0:16:15.56,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But if you then say: Who can find one person\Nand lead that one person to Christ? Dialogue: 0,0:16:16.20,0:16:21.09,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I also say it very clear in the book.\NYou already know them, very often. Dialogue: 0,0:16:21.09,0:16:23.72,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,When you say to people: \NYou already know them. Dialogue: 0,0:16:23.72,0:16:27.08,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,They are in your atmosphere. \NThey are in your network right now. Dialogue: 0,0:16:27.08,0:16:28.79,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Ask God: Who is it? Dialogue: 0,0:16:28.79,0:16:34.38,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Sometimes it's a total sinner.\NSometimes is a believer who needs repentance. Dialogue: 0,0:16:34.38,0:16:36.43,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Sometimes is a repentant person\Nwho needs baptism. Dialogue: 0,0:16:36.43,0:16:38.55,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Sometimes is baptized person \Nwho needs the Holy Spirit. Dialogue: 0,0:16:38.55,0:16:41.44,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And when you give them the missing piece, Dialogue: 0,0:16:42.52,0:16:44.52,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,it's spreading and life is growing. Dialogue: 0,0:16:44.52,0:16:47.69,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The question will always be, and I think\Nthat is the challenge Dialogue: 0,0:16:47.69,0:16:52.58,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and we need to keep it simple, but\Nmany people always want to know in details Dialogue: 0,0:16:52.58,0:16:59.25,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,like, how do you do it? \NOur focus is not so much how we do it. Dialogue: 0,0:16:59.25,0:17:05.42,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Our focus is not the details.\NOur focus is the person... Dialogue: 0,0:17:05.42,0:17:07.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and how do you bring that person\Nto life. Dialogue: 0,0:17:07.99,0:17:10.50,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,- That's right. To maturity. \N- Yeah, To maturity. Dialogue: 0,0:17:10.50,0:17:15.37,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Say a little more about how does \Nyour life look like. Dialogue: 0,0:17:15.37,0:17:19.34,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,How does your week look like?\NHow does it look like practically? Dialogue: 0,0:17:19.34,0:17:22.58,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And also, when you come together\Nand meet? How does it look like? Dialogue: 0,0:17:22.95,0:17:27.46,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The number one thing, for us, personally, \Nis that we like to teach people. Dialogue: 0,0:17:27.46,0:17:30.20,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,When you come together \Nas a community of faith, Dialogue: 0,0:17:30.28,0:17:32.96,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the main difference in the traditional \Nsetting of church Dialogue: 0,0:17:32.96,0:17:36.46,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and the meetings in the homes is,\Nas Paul teaches the Corinthians Dialogue: 0,0:17:36.46,0:17:39.27,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and instructs them: \Neverybody has something to bring. Dialogue: 0,0:17:39.27,0:17:44.31,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So, in that case, if you're not prepared\Nwith your intimate relationship Dialogue: 0,0:17:44.31,0:17:47.12,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,with Christ throughout the week, \Nthen you have nothing to bring to our group, Dialogue: 0,0:17:47.12,0:17:50.08,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and then we all lack because the piece \Nof the puzzle is missing. Dialogue: 0,0:17:50.08,0:17:54.54,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And so, for us, cultivating an intimate \Nrelationship with Christ throughout the week, Dialogue: 0,0:17:54.54,0:17:58.03,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,we have four children, we homeschool \Ndue all these things, Dialogue: 0,0:17:58.03,0:18:01.39,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but we also have to learn how to be\Nin constant community with the Lord, Dialogue: 0,0:18:01.39,0:18:03.39,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,listening to Him, \Npraying throughout the day. Dialogue: 0,0:18:03.95,0:18:06.61,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I need to say something,\Nbecause we talked about that. Dialogue: 0,0:18:07.58,0:18:11.69,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,What is important, when we talk\Nabout everyone has something to share, Dialogue: 0,0:18:11.98,0:18:14.43,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,is in the context of believers now. Dialogue: 0,0:18:14.43,0:18:19.29,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Because the problem is church has been\Na place where many non-believers come Dialogue: 0,0:18:19.29,0:18:22.45,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and if you let everyone share\Nwhere they don't have the Spirit... Dialogue: 0,0:18:24.00,0:18:26.98,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It can go like that. \NSo, when we talk about church, Dialogue: 0,0:18:26.98,0:18:30.04,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,God spoke very clear to you\Nabout the wolf and the sheep. Dialogue: 0,0:18:30.04,0:18:31.96,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Can you share that also? Dialogue: 0,0:18:31.96,0:18:35.51,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,We had just come back from Norway.\NI was very sleep deprived. Dialogue: 0,0:18:35.51,0:18:38.66,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,My good girlfriend calls me and says:\NI'm having my baby nine weeks early. Dialogue: 0,0:18:38.97,0:18:43.33,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So, I go to the hospital, jet-legged,\Nbut sometimes when you're very depleted, Dialogue: 0,0:18:43.33,0:18:46.60,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,you're very sensitive to the Spirit.\NI hadn't eaten a few days, Dialogue: 0,0:18:46.60,0:18:49.47,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I hadn't slept in a few days,\Nand I'm walking to the hospital, Dialogue: 0,0:18:49.47,0:18:52.71,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and I literally heard in my Spirit:\Nthe wolves were never meant to be Dialogue: 0,0:18:52.71,0:18:55.51,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,invited amongst the sheep.\NAnd I'm like: Lord, if this is You. Dialogue: 0,0:18:55.51,0:18:57.74,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I need You to tell me what this means. Dialogue: 0,0:18:57.74,0:19:00.91,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And about a day later, we're in the same\Ntown, he's staying in a hotel Dialogue: 0,0:19:00.91,0:19:03.79,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,a couple miles away, while I'm helping\Nmy friend in the hospital, Dialogue: 0,0:19:03.79,0:19:07.38,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and He said: what do you think about\Nnon-believers being invited into the church? Dialogue: 0,0:19:07.38,0:19:10.08,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And I said: That's what that meant? Dialogue: 0,0:19:10.08,0:19:11.87,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And so I start to dig through the Scriptures\Nand like: Dialogue: 0,0:19:11.87,0:19:14.42,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,What does it look like, Lord?\NWhat, first of all, is church? Dialogue: 0,0:19:14.42,0:19:19.29,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And why are wolves are not supposed\Nto be in the midst of it? Dialogue: 0,0:19:19.29,0:19:21.51,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And He said, He started took me to\Nthe 1 Corinthians, Dialogue: 0,0:19:21.51,0:19:26.59,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,where he talks about the unbelievers \Nstumbling into the congregation. Dialogue: 0,0:19:26.59,0:19:30.61,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And instead of, like, speak in tongues\Nand prophesy, Dialogue: 0,0:19:30.70,0:19:33.07,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,in hopes that man's heart would be\Nexposed, Dialogue: 0,0:19:33.07,0:19:36.52,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that he'll repent and turn towards the Lord,\Nand I said: It said - stumble in, Dialogue: 0,0:19:36.52,0:19:40.85,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,not - invited in. And then I looked\Nat other scriptures that talk about Dialogue: 0,0:19:40.85,0:19:43.72,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the church is for the believer to\Ncome in and to be built up, Dialogue: 0,0:19:43.72,0:19:47.81,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to be stirred up, to be equipped\Nto go out into the work of the ministry, Dialogue: 0,0:19:47.81,0:19:49.85,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,they share the gospel,\Nthey evangelize, Dialogue: 0,0:19:49.85,0:19:53.69,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and when that person receives the Spirit,\Nokay, it's safe to bring them in Dialogue: 0,0:19:53.69,0:19:56.85,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and then equip them, and to edify them,\Nand to stir them up, and teach them Dialogue: 0,0:19:56.85,0:20:02.28,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,how to go out and do the same, because\Nif you invite all these different spirits in, Dialogue: 0,0:20:02.63,0:20:05.40,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,you've got a bunch of different spirits\Nentertaining each other, Dialogue: 0,0:20:05.40,0:20:09.46,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that are not of Christ. And people get\Nconfused of what is truly the Holy Spirit Dialogue: 0,0:20:09.46,0:20:10.91,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and what is not. Dialogue: 0,0:20:10.91,0:20:13.62,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,What we want to see, what we really \Nbelieve in, Dialogue: 0,0:20:13.62,0:20:17.05,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,church is for believers come together,\Nedifying each other. Dialogue: 0,0:20:17.05,0:20:20.26,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And there is so important to be edified,\Nthat you need to learn Dialogue: 0,0:20:20.26,0:20:22.46,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that everyone has something to give. Dialogue: 0,0:20:22.46,0:20:24.72,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And you grow up and you build each other, Dialogue: 0,0:20:24.72,0:20:28.01,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and the way you grow mostly is by giving\Nand doing. Dialogue: 0,0:20:28.01,0:20:29.75,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And then you grow up. Dialogue: 0,0:20:30.66,0:20:33.79,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,If a non-believer... Let's say there is \Nsomebody who invites a few people in, Dialogue: 0,0:20:33.79,0:20:36.74,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,it's fine, but then don't do what you\Nnormally do. Dialogue: 0,0:20:36.74,0:20:41.46,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Sit down with them. Share the gospel.\NSay: hey, we have two people, Dialogue: 0,0:20:41.46,0:20:44.01,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,John brought two friends with him\Ntoday. Dialogue: 0,0:20:44.01,0:20:48.93,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Hey, come in. Hey, hi! This is who we are. \NThis is what we are doing. Dialogue: 0,0:20:48.93,0:20:51.68,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,One day I came to a park, and a mom \Nwas there, and the Lord said: Dialogue: 0,0:20:51.68,0:20:54.59,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,You're gonna talk to her.\NSo, I go to her. I started talking. Dialogue: 0,0:20:54.86,0:20:58.02,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I said: Who are you? Who do you do?\NShe said: We've just moved here from Dialogue: 0,0:20:58.02,0:21:00.88,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Delaware, because the Lord wants us\Nto start house churches, Dialogue: 0,0:21:00.88,0:21:03.56,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,or to be involved in one. And I'm like:\NThis is too easy. Dialogue: 0,0:21:03.56,0:21:06.68,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,She said: What do you and your husband do?\NI said: Well, we start house churches. Dialogue: 0,0:21:06.68,0:21:09.86,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And I said: We actually have one tonight.\NYou should come. So they came. Dialogue: 0,0:21:09.86,0:21:13.44,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And we set them down, we broke bread\Ntogether, we took community together, Dialogue: 0,0:21:13.44,0:21:15.37,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,we sat down. \NWe said: Now, tell us your story. Dialogue: 0,0:21:15.37,0:21:16.91,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And the whole fellowship's there. Dialogue: 0,0:21:16.91,0:21:20.17,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And they shared their story.\NI was 13, I got baptized when I was 14, Dialogue: 0,0:21:20.17,0:21:24.12,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and I'm just kind of lived cool life.\NI've helped in the church a little bit Dialogue: 0,0:21:24.12,0:21:26.38,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,here and there, my husband was\Na youth pastor for a couple of years. Dialogue: 0,0:21:26.38,0:21:28.13,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Now he is a construction worker. Dialogue: 0,0:21:28.13,0:21:29.84,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I'm like: Did you ever received \Nthe Holy Spirit? Dialogue: 0,0:21:29.84,0:21:31.40,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And they're like: \NWhat are you talking about? Dialogue: 0,0:21:31.40,0:21:35.18,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And I said: Let us share our stories. \NSo, my mom shared her story. Dialogue: 0,0:21:35.18,0:21:36.73,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,She was in that fellowship. Dialogue: 0,0:21:36.73,0:21:39.18,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,You break the program and you focus\Non them, where they are. Dialogue: 0,0:21:39.18,0:21:42.35,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,We share our story and then we get\Ninto the Book of Acts 18 and 19, Dialogue: 0,0:21:42.35,0:21:45.52,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,where people had been repented,\Nbut never received the Spirit. Dialogue: 0,0:21:45.52,0:21:48.34,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And after that, they're like:\NWe have a lot to think about. Dialogue: 0,0:21:48.34,0:21:51.17,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I said: Absolutely.\NThey're like: Can we read this first Dialogue: 0,0:21:51.17,0:21:53.67,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and come back, and partake in\Nwhat you're talking about? Dialogue: 0,0:21:53.67,0:21:54.85,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,We said: Absolutely. Dialogue: 0,0:21:54.85,0:21:57.36,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So, they did not receive the Spirit\Nthat night, but they know Dialogue: 0,0:21:57.36,0:21:59.70,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that they're lacking the Spirit.\NAnd that they can't be for it Dialogue: 0,0:21:59.70,0:22:01.54,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,until they received the Spirit of God. Dialogue: 0,0:22:01.54,0:22:04.55,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So, when they come back,\Nthat'll be the next question: Are you ready? Dialogue: 0,0:22:04.55,0:22:07.29,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It's for us to lay hand on you, \Nfor you to receive the Spirit. Dialogue: 0,0:22:08.23,0:22:13.93,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,What I often do if we go to small setting,\NI'm praying, God what do You want us to share? Dialogue: 0,0:22:13.93,0:22:17.39,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But then, when you come there and\Nyou see the people, sometimes you see, Dialogue: 0,0:22:17.39,0:22:20.80,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,okay, it's something else today. \NBecause those people came in. Dialogue: 0,0:22:20.80,0:22:26.38,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Today it's just us. Let's break the bread.\NLet's do what we do. Dialogue: 0,0:22:26.38,0:22:30.14,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Because we are now together \Nto equip each other. Dialogue: 0,0:22:30.91,0:22:35.37,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Now you have seen many fellowships\Nstart, so your life is like Dialogue: 0,0:22:35.37,0:22:37.76,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,going from fellowship to fellowship\Nand help, Dialogue: 0,0:22:37.76,0:22:40.60,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and some of them is now breaking\Nmore off, Dialogue: 0,0:22:40.60,0:22:44.77,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,because they have grown to maturity.\NCan you tell a little how does it look? Dialogue: 0,0:22:47.16,0:22:50.59,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,When we go in, our goal is not to make\Nthem dependent on us. Dialogue: 0,0:22:50.59,0:22:55.45,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It's, actually, give them equipping \Nand everything we can possibly do Dialogue: 0,0:22:55.45,0:22:58.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to serve them, so they can get to a place\Nto where they are completely Dialogue: 0,0:22:58.99,0:23:01.92,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,dependent on Christ, the Holy Spirit \Nand each other. Dialogue: 0,0:23:01.92,0:23:05.54,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And once they do that, then we want\Nto back off. Dialogue: 0,0:23:05.54,0:23:09.08,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It's just like a relationship with\Nyour children or parents and children. Dialogue: 0,0:23:09.08,0:23:11.47,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Right? Eventually, you don't want \Nthem to be dependent on you. Dialogue: 0,0:23:11.47,0:23:15.21,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,They need to be creating and starting \Ntheir own families. Same thing. Dialogue: 0,0:23:15.21,0:23:17.28,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,That could take three months with a group,\Nsix months. Dialogue: 0,0:23:17.28,0:23:20.45,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It came take over a year with a group.\NIt's different for every group. Dialogue: 0,0:23:20.45,0:23:24.62,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So weekly we go in, Sunday to Sunday, Dialogue: 0,0:23:24.62,0:23:26.87,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,we meet with about five groups\Nright now. Dialogue: 0,0:23:26.87,0:23:29.05,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,There's two groups that are becoming\Nvery mature Dialogue: 0,0:23:29.05,0:23:33.21,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and so we only meet like once a week.\NOnce a month, twice a month, right now. Dialogue: 0,0:23:33.21,0:23:35.70,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And so, eventually, they're actually \Ndoing their own thing Dialogue: 0,0:23:35.70,0:23:38.47,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and they're actually obeying Christ\Non the weekly basis, Dialogue: 0,0:23:38.47,0:23:40.49,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,on the daily basis, living in holiness, Dialogue: 0,0:23:40.49,0:23:42.70,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and they're multiplying on their own. Dialogue: 0,0:23:42.70,0:23:44.50,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So, weekly that's what we do. Dialogue: 0,0:23:45.46,0:23:48.71,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Somebody asked us the other week,\Nlike, do you get exhausted with what you do? Dialogue: 0,0:23:48.71,0:23:50.77,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I said: \NWe've cut out everything in our lives Dialogue: 0,0:23:50.77,0:23:52.86,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that have nothing to do \Nwith the Kingdom of God. Dialogue: 0,0:23:52.86,0:23:56.38,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So, all that we have left in this life\Nis to pursue the Kingdom, Dialogue: 0,0:23:56.38,0:23:59.33,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to seek first the Kingdom of God\Nand everything will be added to us. Dialogue: 0,0:23:59.33,0:24:01.24,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So, our finances are added to us, Dialogue: 0,0:24:01.24,0:24:04.94,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,our endurance is added to us,\Nour strength is added to us. Dialogue: 0,0:24:04.94,0:24:08.50,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and the ability to actually do something\Nthat is bearing fruit, Dialogue: 0,0:24:08.50,0:24:10.96,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,not just in this life, \Nbut in the life to come. Dialogue: 0,0:24:10.96,0:24:12.96,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I don't want to go empty handed,\Nyou know. Dialogue: 0,0:24:12.96,0:24:15.67,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So, that's kind of what this life\Nhas looked like. Dialogue: 0,0:24:15.67,0:24:19.47,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It has Jesus provides, because we no longer\Ncan work, because we're so busy Dialogue: 0,0:24:19.47,0:24:22.34,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,advancing the Kingdom. But He's\Nprovided the home, Dialogue: 0,0:24:22.34,0:24:26.73,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,He's provided vehicles, He's provided\Nsum of income for us to live off of, Dialogue: 0,0:24:26.73,0:24:30.20,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,not so that we can become wealthy\Nand seek the things of this world. Dialogue: 0,0:24:30.20,0:24:33.14,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,This is the last thing I want.\NI'm detached from that stuff. Dialogue: 0,0:24:33.14,0:24:36.03,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But that I can still live, and there's\Ntools and resources Dialogue: 0,0:24:36.03,0:24:38.04,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to advance the Kingdom of God. Dialogue: 0,0:24:38.89,0:24:41.10,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,When we look at Luke 10, where\NJesus said: Dialogue: 0,0:24:41.10,0:24:46.57,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Don't take extra purse with you,\Nlaborer is worth his wages, all of that, Dialogue: 0,0:24:46.57,0:24:48.34,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,you can testify that also?\N- That's right. Dialogue: 0,0:24:49.07,0:24:53.84,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And you actually don't need to have\Na website and a ministry, all of that. Dialogue: 0,0:24:53.84,0:24:57.83,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But the resources are often \Nin the harvest. Dialogue: 0,0:24:57.83,0:25:03.16,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,When we start to lead people to Christ\Nand start to see people build up, Dialogue: 0,0:25:03.71,0:25:08.50,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,there is provision, there are resources,\Nthere is what we need. Dialogue: 0,0:25:08.50,0:25:11.15,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And also, what they say, I think it's\Nimportant, Dialogue: 0,0:25:11.91,0:25:14.40,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I talk much about church as a family, Dialogue: 0,0:25:15.47,0:25:19.43,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,now he is a young boy, you have\Nfour smaller kids, Dialogue: 0,0:25:19.43,0:25:23.82,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I have kids who are now 15 and 18.\NAnd I have grandkids. Dialogue: 0,0:25:23.82,0:25:28.16,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,If we look all the levels,\Nthere are times where there's more work. Dialogue: 0,0:25:28.16,0:25:31.90,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,There are times, of course, when\Nyou don't get so much sleep in the night. Dialogue: 0,0:25:32.84,0:25:37.30,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But, the whole reason we're getting kids\Nis not for them to remain like that. Dialogue: 0,0:25:37.30,0:25:41.32,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It's to build them up. And then \Nthere is time where you have more fun with them, Dialogue: 0,0:25:41.60,0:25:45.63,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,when you have fun with them and do\Nfunny things, Dialogue: 0,0:25:45.63,0:25:47.95,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and they are independent. \NThat can actually be of help. Dialogue: 0,0:25:47.95,0:25:50.28,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Like your son is already helping with him. Dialogue: 0,0:25:50.28,0:25:55.26,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And then there is time where I'm in,\Nwhere they are really independent, in many ways, Dialogue: 0,0:25:55.26,0:25:59.74,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and you need to let go. \NAnd it was hard with our son, Dialogue: 0,0:25:59.74,0:26:04.10,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,because I want to be with my son,\Nbut I just know that Dialogue: 0,0:26:04.10,0:26:09.09,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,for him to be independent from me\NI need to let go. Dialogue: 0,0:26:09.09,0:26:14.35,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And the Bible says, we know\Nit's not good for man to be alone. Dialogue: 0,0:26:14.35,0:26:17.01,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,He needs to leave his mom and dad,\Nbut I can turn around, Dialogue: 0,0:26:17.01,0:26:20.17,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,it's not good to be with mom and dad\Nfor the rest of your life. Dialogue: 0,0:26:20.17,0:26:25.71,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So, there is that letting go,\Nand now our son has his kids, Dialogue: 0,0:26:25.71,0:26:28.23,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and I love our grandkids.\NI miss them and it's so fun. Dialogue: 0,0:26:28.23,0:26:32.41,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I'm in the funny place with my grandkids,\Noh, they are so cute, Dialogue: 0,0:26:32.41,0:26:35.79,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,like him, and so on, but then...\N(smelling a poop)... oh... Dialogue: 0,0:26:36.24,0:26:38.42,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And then they care of it. Dialogue: 0,0:26:38.42,0:26:41.93,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And I think, as it is in the natural,\Nwe see it in the spiritual. Dialogue: 0,0:26:41.93,0:26:47.90,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,In the natural there is a period \Nof 18 years and they move from home. Dialogue: 0,0:26:47.90,0:26:51.21,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,In the spiritual, I think, it depends \Non people, Dialogue: 0,0:26:51.21,0:26:56.60,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,it depends on the background,\Nif people come from very destroyed background Dialogue: 0,0:26:56.60,0:27:00.04,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,there is something, they need, of course,\Ndeliverance, can happen, Dialogue: 0,0:27:00.04,0:27:02.95,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but renewing the mind and building up,\Nit takes longer time, Dialogue: 0,0:27:02.95,0:27:07.79,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,or they come from another background.\NBut you say like a half year, a year, Dialogue: 0,0:27:07.79,0:27:09.82,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and then they are ready to move on. Dialogue: 0,0:27:09.82,0:27:13.56,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Oh yeah. If you're going too long,\Nthere is no reproduction. Dialogue: 0,0:27:14.82,0:27:18.18,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,We would have to trust them.\NThis is the same as you... Dialogue: 0,0:27:18.18,0:27:21.20,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,If your children were 16 years old,\Nstill living in your basement, Dialogue: 0,0:27:21.20,0:27:24.14,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,you would address that, because it's not\Nwhat's naturally supposed to take place. Dialogue: 0,0:27:24.14,0:27:28.53,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,If you have an apple tree out there\Nand it hasn't bore fruit one year Dialogue: 0,0:27:28.53,0:27:32.08,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,or two years, you start to prune it\Ndown, you have to work with it, Dialogue: 0,0:27:32.08,0:27:36.09,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,something is wrong, if it doesn't continue\Nbearing fruit, or starts to bear fruit, Dialogue: 0,0:27:36.09,0:27:38.41,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,cut it down and plant a new one. Dialogue: 0,0:27:38.41,0:27:39.85,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,That's right. Dialogue: 0,0:27:39.85,0:27:42.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,That is biblical. Dialogue: 0,0:27:42.00,0:27:46.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It's so beautiful to hear what God is doing.\NI want to say that this is for everyone. Dialogue: 0,0:27:46.99,0:27:51.23,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,This is the call of Jesus.\NThis is what He has called us to, Dialogue: 0,0:27:51.23,0:27:53.07,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,is what He has called you to. Dialogue: 0,0:27:53.07,0:27:57.24,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,If you are a disciple of Christ,\Nto be a disciple is to deny ourselves, Dialogue: 0,0:27:57.24,0:27:59.48,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,take up the cross and follow Him. Dialogue: 0,0:27:59.48,0:28:02.19,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It's to repent, get baptized,\Nreceive the Holy Spirit Dialogue: 0,0:28:02.19,0:28:07.17,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and being taught to obey everything\NHe has commanded us. Dialogue: 0,0:28:07.17,0:28:11.18,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And everything is everything.\NAnd this is what we see here. Dialogue: 0,0:28:11.18,0:28:14.91,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And I really want to encourage you\Nto go for this and live this life. Dialogue: 0,0:28:15.70,0:28:19.19,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Thank you so much for sharing.\NWe have other videos Dialogue: 0,0:28:19.19,0:28:23.85,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,where we are talking more in details\Nabout... Dialogue: 0,0:28:23.85,0:28:27.98,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,how God is the provider, we are talking\Nmore in details about Dialogue: 0,0:28:27.98,0:28:32.08,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,why the gospel is important,\Nwe are talking more in details Dialogue: 0,0:28:32.08,0:28:34.33,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,about some of the things\Nyou've been sharing Dialogue: 0,0:28:34.33,0:28:35.100,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and I also have in my book. Dialogue: 0,0:28:35.100,0:28:38.20,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So, see the other videos.\NRead the book Dialogue: 0,0:28:38.20,0:28:40.36,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and start to obey Jesus in His call. Dialogue: 0,0:28:40.36,0:28:40.97,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,God bless you!