WEBVTT 00:00:09.152 --> 00:00:16.944 Thich Nhat Hanh risponde alle domande 00:00:27.236 --> 00:00:29.020 Dear Thay, dear Sangha 00:00:35.600 --> 00:00:39.285 (SPANISH) At times I control a lot of anger coming up. 00:00:39.285 --> 00:00:43.469 I keep it inside, but then it suddenly explodes. 00:00:43.475 --> 00:00:45.178 I let it all out at once, 00:00:45.178 --> 00:00:49.757 without knowing why and without being able to control it at that time. 00:00:49.757 --> 00:00:51.760 When all my anger explodes 00:00:53.573 --> 00:00:58.089 I hurt the other person and also myself a lot. 00:00:59.577 --> 00:01:04.869 And then I do not have compassion for the other, because I'm not aware of it. 00:01:06.397 --> 00:01:12.860 After I have calmed down and my anger has exploded and I let it out. 00:01:13.470 --> 00:01:17.070 then I have compassion and I am aware that I made him suffer. 00:01:17.098 --> 00:01:20.159 But in the moment I do it, I cannot do anything. 00:01:20.479 --> 00:01:22.129 How can I do this? 00:01:24.672 --> 00:01:27.213 Dear Thay, our friend is saying... 00:01:27.213 --> 00:01:30.099 This is another question about anger. 00:01:30.099 --> 00:01:33.595 She feels a lot of anger come up sometimes. 00:01:33.601 --> 00:01:36.760 and she doesn't want to let it come out. 00:01:36.760 --> 00:01:41.176 So she tries to keep it under control, she's pushing it down. 00:01:41.176 --> 00:01:44.498 But then, at some point it explodes, it comes out 00:01:45.693 --> 00:01:48.489 and she can hurt the other person. 00:01:48.489 --> 00:01:50.882 She feels sorry to hurt the other person. 00:01:50.882 --> 00:01:54.739 She feels compassion for the suffering she caused him. 00:01:54.959 --> 00:02:00.227 And she wants to know how she can take better care of the situation. 00:02:02.669 --> 00:02:07.080 Is she capable of seeing the suffering of the other person? 00:02:09.592 --> 00:02:14.590 (FRENCH) Can she see the suffering in the other person? 00:02:15.681 --> 00:02:16.448 And when? 00:02:17.370 --> 00:02:20.386 Before or after the explosion? 00:02:40.613 --> 00:02:42.685 I do see their suffering 00:02:42.685 --> 00:02:46.817 but I still have the strong emotion come up. 00:02:46.830 --> 00:02:48.830 What can I do with it? 00:02:56.037 --> 00:02:57.987 To control is not enough. 00:02:59.240 --> 00:03:02.749 To control may be to suppress. 00:03:03.561 --> 00:03:05.505 Suppressing is not good, 00:03:06.256 --> 00:03:10.200 because it is always there, you pin it down 00:03:10.200 --> 00:03:12.161 but it is still there. 00:03:12.677 --> 00:03:15.816 So suppressing is not good. 00:03:16.922 --> 00:03:19.026 We have to transform. 00:03:23.212 --> 00:03:27.822 And to transform you need compassion. 00:03:30.320 --> 00:03:35.171 The only antidote for anger, violence is compassion. 00:03:37.424 --> 00:03:39.406 There is no other way. 00:03:40.368 --> 00:03:43.512 But how to fabricate compassion? 00:03:44.486 --> 00:03:47.110 How to generate the energy of compassion? 00:03:47.110 --> 00:03:49.264 That is the real question. 00:03:50.261 --> 00:03:56.950 And in this retreat we have learnt to recognize the suffering? 00:03:59.318 --> 00:04:01.861 Because the suffering in that person is 00:04:01.868 --> 00:04:07.987 the cause of his action or of words that can make you suffer. 00:04:10.560 --> 00:04:14.922 The anger in him waters the anger in you. 00:04:16.845 --> 00:04:22.691 The violence in him waters the violence in you. 00:04:25.540 --> 00:04:32.120 And that is why...we have to breathe in and out mindfully 00:04:32.611 --> 00:04:40.291 and to look, to see that the other person is a victim 00:04:40.317 --> 00:04:46.288 of his own violence, his own suffering, his own misunderstanding. 00:04:46.820 --> 00:04:48.592 This is very important. 00:04:49.768 --> 00:04:52.162 This is the teaching of the Buddha: 00:04:52.676 --> 00:04:56.038 look at suffering and understand suffering. 00:04:58.119 --> 00:05:00.971 When you understand your own suffering 00:05:01.200 --> 00:05:05.023 you can understand the suffering of the other person. 00:05:06.158 --> 00:05:09.436 Understanding suffering always brings compassion. 00:05:09.436 --> 00:05:14.816 And only compassion can transform anger and violence. 00:05:19.009 --> 00:05:23.581 There are those of us who think that we can... 00:05:25.351 --> 00:05:28.958 we can take the block of anger out of us, 00:05:30.243 --> 00:05:33.191 like doing surgery. 00:05:37.929 --> 00:05:40.264 But you cannot do that with anger. 00:05:40.264 --> 00:05:43.303 You cannot take anger out of you. 00:05:45.392 --> 00:05:47.714 You can only transform it. 00:05:48.157 --> 00:05:52.239 Anger can be transformed within into something else. 00:05:52.239 --> 00:05:55.889 Anger can be transformed into understanding and compassion 00:05:56.530 --> 00:05:59.181 And that is the work of the practitioner: 00:06:01.961 --> 00:06:03.720 looking into the suffering, 00:06:03.720 --> 00:06:07.576 your own suffering and the suffering of the other person, 00:06:07.576 --> 00:06:10.282 and trying to understand the cause. 00:06:11.890 --> 00:06:17.485 That is the way to generate the energy of compassion. 00:06:19.395 --> 00:06:22.760 And when compassion is there it transforms anger. 00:06:23.960 --> 00:06:26.866 You don't need to take it out. 00:06:29.317 --> 00:06:32.170 There are those who try to take it out. 00:06:33.842 --> 00:06:36.451 There are those who advise you to 00:06:36.451 --> 00:06:40.953 take it out by the practice of so-called 'ventilation'. 00:06:43.196 --> 00:06:46.116 It is like there is smoke in your room 00:06:46.116 --> 00:06:49.940 and you want to ventilate the smoke to take it out. 00:06:50.481 --> 00:06:56.330 And the way is to go to your room and lock your door 00:06:57.242 --> 00:07:01.777 and to try to punch, to hit your pillow, 00:07:05.516 --> 00:07:09.477 to hit for ten minutes, fifteen minutes. 00:07:10.992 --> 00:07:18.830 And they believe that by doing so you may take anger out of you. 00:07:21.107 --> 00:07:23.569 'I am aware that anger is there.' 00:07:23.569 --> 00:07:25.414 'I want to take it out.' 00:07:27.458 --> 00:07:30.675 Because they think it is safer to hit a pillow 00:07:30.675 --> 00:07:33.880 then to hit the other person directly. 00:07:33.880 --> 00:07:37.406 And they call it 'take it out of your system'. 00:07:39.573 --> 00:07:41.216 But it does not work. 00:07:43.050 --> 00:07:44.448 It does not work. 00:07:45.442 --> 00:07:48.118 It may make your anger stronger. 00:07:50.287 --> 00:07:53.467 It is like rehearsing your anger. 00:07:58.608 --> 00:08:02.524 And they call it 'getting in touch with your anger'. 00:08:03.634 --> 00:08:07.081 It's good to get in touch with your anger. 00:08:07.081 --> 00:08:11.367 The Buddha also advises us to breathe in 00:08:12.200 --> 00:08:15.680 and to go home and to get in touch with your anger 00:08:16.760 --> 00:08:21.684 and embrace it tenderly and look deeply into your anger. 00:08:23.962 --> 00:08:30.521 But in this practice of... pounding... the pillow 00:08:32.433 --> 00:08:35.802 you don't really get in touch with your anger. 00:08:39.123 --> 00:08:41.442 You are a victim of your anger. 00:08:41.741 --> 00:08:43.751 You are not getting in touch. 00:08:44.755 --> 00:08:47.240 You are not even in touch with the pillow... 00:08:47.240 --> 00:08:50.449 (Crowd laughs) 00:08:50.449 --> 00:08:52.720 even though you are hitting it, 00:08:52.720 --> 00:08:56.906 because if you are really in touch with your pillow, 00:08:56.906 --> 00:08:59.175 you will know that it is only a pillow. 00:08:59.178 --> 00:09:01.919 (Crowd laughs) 00:09:01.919 --> 00:09:04.121 It's funny to hit a pillow. 00:09:04.121 --> 00:09:05.754 The pillow is innocent. 00:09:05.754 --> 00:09:06.964 (Crowd laughs) 00:09:06.964 --> 00:09:09.486 So if you cannot get in touch with the pillow 00:09:09.486 --> 00:09:12.206 you cannot get in touch with your anger. 00:09:14.205 --> 00:09:15.772 And if you continue like that 00:09:15.772 --> 00:09:19.998 maybe one day, meeting him on the street, you may like to... 00:09:21.183 --> 00:09:23.344 hit directly and you get in jail. 00:09:24.239 --> 00:09:29.921 So this work does not seem to help you to get it out. 00:09:32.521 --> 00:09:34.865 So according to this practice, 00:09:35.675 --> 00:09:39.754 the practice that the Buddha recommends, 00:09:40.129 --> 00:09:44.044 you have to come home and recognize anger 00:09:44.044 --> 00:09:47.023 and try to hold it with the energy of mindfulness. 00:09:47.023 --> 00:09:49.694 This is called mindfulness of anger. 00:09:49.779 --> 00:09:53.048 Mindfulness is always mindfulness of something. 00:09:53.652 --> 00:10:04.338 When I drink my tea and become aware that I am here and now drinking my tea 00:10:04.804 --> 00:10:06.782 that is mindfulness of drinking. 00:10:08.257 --> 00:10:12.430 And when I breathe mindfully, that is mindfulness of breathing. 00:10:12.769 --> 00:10:16.788 When I walk mindfully, that is mindfulness of walking. 00:10:16.788 --> 00:10:21.741 So when I come home to myself and recognize my anger and hold my anger 00:10:21.741 --> 00:10:25.080 anger becomes the object of my mindfulness. 00:10:25.080 --> 00:10:27.839 This is called mindfulness of anger 00:10:27.839 --> 00:10:30.297 There are two energies. 00:10:30.297 --> 00:10:33.205 First there is the energy of anger. 00:10:33.205 --> 00:10:37.110 Then the second energy is the energy of mindfulness. 00:10:37.891 --> 00:10:39.973 In order to have this energy 00:10:39.973 --> 00:10:43.407 you have to practice breathing and walking mindfully. 00:10:43.407 --> 00:10:49.992 And with the second energy, you recognize the first energy and embrace it tenderly. 00:10:50.004 --> 00:10:51.740 You do not suppress it 00:10:57.361 --> 00:11:01.250 but embrace it tenderly, 00:11:01.629 --> 00:11:04.100 like a mother embracing her... 00:11:06.540 --> 00:11:08.960 her suffering...baby. 00:11:11.864 --> 00:11:16.295 And when the energy of mindfulness is embracing the energy of anger, 00:11:16.310 --> 00:11:17.698 you suffer less. 00:11:19.931 --> 00:11:24.662 It is like the sunshine embracing the lotus flower. 00:11:25.384 --> 00:11:30.326 The lotus flower gets the warmth the energy, in order to bloom. 00:11:32.400 --> 00:11:37.700 So when you use the energy of mindfulness in order to embrace your anger 00:11:38.080 --> 00:11:40.283 you suffer less, you get a relief. 00:11:40.283 --> 00:11:41.415 You suffer less. 00:11:42.643 --> 00:11:47.988 And if you look more deeply you can identify the cause of your anger. 00:11:49.380 --> 00:11:51.505 That may be a wrong perception. 00:11:51.505 --> 00:11:56.557 That may be your lack of capacity to see the suffering of the other person. 00:11:57.622 --> 00:12:01.360 And if you identify your wrong perception 00:12:01.360 --> 00:12:04.279 or if you can see the suffering of the other person 00:12:05.148 --> 00:12:10.756 suddenly that kind of understanding and vision makes compassion arise. 00:12:12.091 --> 00:12:13.858 And when compassion arises, 00:12:13.858 --> 00:12:18.127 that is a kind of nectar that makes you suffer less right away. 00:12:18.127 --> 00:12:19.526 You get a relief. 00:12:19.526 --> 00:12:21.488 And you can transform it. 00:12:24.971 --> 00:12:26.318 And... 00:12:28.080 --> 00:12:29.617 This... 00:12:31.554 --> 00:12:34.351 This practice always works. 00:12:36.402 --> 00:12:41.506 You know that in Plum Village, in the past we used to sponsor 00:12:41.506 --> 00:12:46.063 groups of Palestinans and Israelis to come and practice. 00:12:47.840 --> 00:12:53.260 And there is a lot of misunderstanding, anger and suspicion in each group. 00:12:57.981 --> 00:13:03.913 And if they can stay for two weeks, transformation and healing can be possible. 00:13:05.578 --> 00:13:10.318 We practice calming, releasing tension. 00:13:11.205 --> 00:13:16.070 We practice getting in touch with the wonders of life in order to nourish us. 00:13:17.402 --> 00:13:20.207 And we also practicing breathing 00:13:20.404 --> 00:13:25.507 in order to recognize our suspicion, our fear, our anger. 00:13:28.535 --> 00:13:34.091 And then we sit down and try to listen to each other 00:13:37.215 --> 00:13:42.081 And we tell the other group about our own suffering, our own fear. 00:13:43.523 --> 00:13:47.939 We use the practice of the fourth mindfulness training: 00:13:48.920 --> 00:13:51.950 Loving Speech and Deep Listening. 00:13:54.444 --> 00:13:58.015 You can tell them everything in your heart: 00:13:58.796 --> 00:14:01.903 your suffering, your fear, your anger. 00:14:03.459 --> 00:14:07.468 But you tell it in such a way that the other person, the other group 00:14:07.468 --> 00:14:08.813 can understand you. 00:14:08.813 --> 00:14:10.716 Help them to understand. 00:14:12.044 --> 00:14:18.204 So during the time you speak, you do not condemn, you do not blame. 00:14:21.312 --> 00:14:25.317 You just try to help them to understand how much you suffer, 00:14:26.163 --> 00:14:29.061 you and your people and your children. 00:14:30.052 --> 00:14:33.141 In that way you help them to understand your suffering. 00:14:36.282 --> 00:14:42.745 And then it will be your turn to sit and listen to their suffering. 00:14:43.908 --> 00:14:45.571 They will tell you 00:14:46.368 --> 00:14:50.088 their suffering, their fear, their anger, their despair. 00:14:50.088 --> 00:14:52.095 And you have to listen. 00:14:53.732 --> 00:14:56.883 And during the time they speak 00:14:56.883 --> 00:15:00.928 you may notice that they have wrong perceptions of you. 00:15:05.463 --> 00:15:07.901 And you want to correct them. 00:15:08.563 --> 00:15:12.277 But according to this practice you should not correct them. 00:15:12.680 --> 00:15:15.621 Because if you correct them while they speak 00:15:15.621 --> 00:15:18.802 you will transform the session into a debate. 00:15:20.540 --> 00:15:23.724 That's not the practice of deep listening. 00:15:23.724 --> 00:15:24.650 You say: 00:15:24.868 --> 00:15:29.600 "Oh, they say wrong things because they have not seen the truth. 00:15:30.364 --> 00:15:33.284 But I have the time to help them 00:15:33.284 --> 00:15:37.575 to correct their perceptions in a few days, 00:15:37.903 --> 00:15:41.101 because they will be there for another week. 00:15:42.043 --> 00:15:45.464 So in a few days we will have a chance to tell them, 00:15:45.473 --> 00:15:48.894 to give them the kind of information that can help them 00:15:48.894 --> 00:15:50.832 to correct their perceptions. 00:15:50.832 --> 00:15:51.844 But not now. 00:15:51.844 --> 00:15:56.813 Now we have to listen, 00:15:58.964 --> 00:16:00.963 listen attentively." 00:16:00.963 --> 00:16:04.925 Listening like this is called 'compassionate listening'. 00:16:06.754 --> 00:16:10.708 And if you know how to listen with compassion for one hour, 00:16:10.708 --> 00:16:12.454 they will suffer less. 00:16:13.284 --> 00:16:15.500 So we are practicing compassion. 00:16:15.500 --> 00:16:18.788 We are giving them a chance to suffer less. 00:16:22.118 --> 00:16:25.902 And that is the practice of the fourth mindfulness training: 00:16:25.902 --> 00:16:30.604 listening with compassion in order to help other people to suffer less. 00:16:30.611 --> 00:16:33.803 You may do it with your husband, your wife 00:16:33.803 --> 00:16:38.419 with your son, with your daughter, with your father or mother. 00:16:39.062 --> 00:16:45.666 And listen so that they have a chance to empty their heart. 00:16:46.517 --> 00:16:48.226 That is compassion. 00:16:50.228 --> 00:16:58.820 And after a week of practice we are able to remove many wrong perceptions. 00:17:00.030 --> 00:17:02.886 We increase our mutual understanding. 00:17:02.886 --> 00:17:05.364 And the two groups can sit down, 00:17:06.555 --> 00:17:13.396 can hold hands to do walking meditation, and share a meal together. 00:17:15.919 --> 00:17:18.987 Brotherhood, sisterhood is born. 00:17:20.848 --> 00:17:23.671 So this is a very important practice. 00:17:27.377 --> 00:17:28.621 And... 00:17:30.060 --> 00:17:34.089 We believe that politicians have to learn this practice. 00:17:35.841 --> 00:17:38.749 When they come to a peace negotiation, 00:17:39.280 --> 00:17:41.794 they should follow the instructions of calming, 00:17:44.123 --> 00:17:45.488 releasing, 00:17:46.800 --> 00:17:49.249 recognizing suffering inside, 00:17:49.249 --> 00:17:52.540 recognizing the suffering in the other person. 00:17:52.705 --> 00:17:56.963 And if they spent one or two weeks practicing like that, 00:17:57.402 --> 00:18:00.604 their negotiations for peace will be fruitful. 00:18:03.726 --> 00:18:07.496 And I think that in schools of political science 00:18:08.640 --> 00:18:11.930 students have to learn this kind of practice. 00:18:11.930 --> 00:18:15.650 They don't need to be a Buddhist in order to learn it. 00:18:15.998 --> 00:18:21.341 This is applied ethics that can be taught in every kind of school, 00:18:21.534 --> 00:18:23.465 including elementary school. 00:18:24.910 --> 00:18:28.200 Because children can learn the practice 00:18:28.200 --> 00:18:31.127 and reconcile with their brothers and sisters 00:18:31.127 --> 00:18:33.077 and reconcile with their parents 00:18:33.077 --> 00:18:35.617 and even help their parents. 00:18:36.309 --> 00:18:40.039 They are many retreats organized for young people, children. 00:18:40.057 --> 00:18:44.267 And the children are transformed when they are able to see 00:18:44.267 --> 00:18:47.570 the suffering in their father, in their mother. 00:18:47.570 --> 00:18:49.847 And they come home after the retreat, 00:18:49.847 --> 00:18:52.248 listen to their father and their mother 00:18:52.248 --> 00:18:54.345 and help them to suffer less. 00:18:54.708 --> 00:18:56.034 It's a miracle 00:18:56.034 --> 00:18:58.566 It always happens in our retreats. 00:19:08.033 --> 00:19:22.025 (Bell)