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(Cara StLouis Farrelly) In fact, most people (check)

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And the way I've come to be [br]sitting with you, Miles,

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goes back to --[br]in fact, goes back my whole life --

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but specifically to July 2010, when I was[br]living in the State of Maine in the US,

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Obviously, I am an American.

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And with my family --[br](Miles Johnston ) You're not Canadian?

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(Cara) I'm not Canadian, no: I am[br]from the American Southwest, actually,

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which is really sort of germinal to[br]my own personal history, but

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particularly there, I was living in [br]seacoast Maine, in a little village

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and my mother had come [br]to be near the grandchildren,

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because they were all growing up.

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And she'd been there for about a year

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and July 11 was a beautiful, sunny[br]Sunday morning in Maine

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and she got up and she was walking[br]to church, which was about

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a block and a half from her flat,[br]from where she lived

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and she had just about reached [br]the other side of the main street,

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which is, we call it the High Street,[br]it's a very small town,

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when she was actually run over by a van,[br]a minivan

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and thrown god knows how far, twenty or[br](no sound)

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point my mother was 74 years old,

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she was definitely, you know, [br]in the latter moments of her life,

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her lifespan and anyway, just about[br]every bone in her body was broken

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and she was conscious, believe it or not,[br]taken to the hospital.

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I joined her there and she died[br]in my arms a few hours later.

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So, one would have thought that[br]that alone is just a tragedy

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and a horrific thing to have happen [br]in your life, and of course it is.

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And, you know, one would have been --

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the normal, the natural thing [br]would have been to --

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to just receive that as a crazy accident[br]and that something meaningless

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ended someone's life, although[br]I don't believe anything is an accident

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or meaningless, or without purpose, but --[br]the reality is, as the months went by,

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I couldn't get any information[br]about my mother's death,

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and that made no sense at all, [br]because it was a small town,

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she was a little old lady[br]who was crossing the street

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and she was run over and killed.

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And I was her sole survivor.

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I literally had to have an attorney write [br]a letter to the local police authority

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invoking the Freedom Of Information Act[br]to get even the smallest police report.

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It made no sense whatsoever.

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So this really started me thinking[br]something that had been in my guts

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to begin with, with this death.

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And that was that, although my mother[br]had started her life as a music teacher,

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she had, half way through, begun to work[br]for the US government

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and specifically the military, first the [br]Office of Information here in Nevada

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and then the US Navy.

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She worked for weapons entities[br]in Dog Run (check) Virginia

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and then she was transferred to London,

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she got a position at the Office of [br]Naval Research here in London,

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which is a very serious organization[br]in terms of the Navy.

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People think the NSA is the top dog in (check)[br]but it's not, it's the Navy.

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The Navy is very much -- [br](Miles) the senior service

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(Cara) Senior, the senior spook service.[br](Miles) It's been around a lot longer.

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(Cara) You better believe it.

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That's where it all starts [br]and that's where it all goes down,

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I mean, it trickles down from the Navy.

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She was the editor of something called[br]the Fact Sheet for three years, 1989-1991.

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She had a .... (check)[br]very high social security plan

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I mean she saw all (blank) [br]in this office were.

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Eastern block scientists, [br]some Western scientists

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Lots of operation paperclip scientists, [br]OK, working on weapons,

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working on atmospheric weapons,[br]electro-magnetics, psychology,

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scalar weapons, you better believe it,[br]all of that stuff.

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Now, obviously my mother was not [br]a scientist but she was also not --

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she was also a very intelligent woman;

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and so, even though she might not have[br]understood everything

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that went across her desk, she certainly[br]understood enough of it

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that the only thing she ever told me[br]about what she saw was that

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a lot of it scared the hell out of her:[br]that's all she could ever tell me.

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OK, so this was 89, 90 and 91.

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This is what I'm thinking and then,[br]when she retired,

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she went back to Dog Run (check)

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after they eliminated that position[br]in London

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and worked for a Surface Weapons there (check),[br]for the Navy.

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And then she retired, at the age of 60,[br]moved to Hawaii,

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and started working [br]with independent contractors.

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And in Hawaii, that's a huge, huge, huge[br]business, it is their primary business.

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Tourism is nothing compared to the [br]government contracts business in Hawaii.

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Anyway, she was technical editor for[br]several companies who were trying

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to get business with DARPA, another very,[br]very very black entity in the United States.

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Their funding is endless, bottomless.

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So, I have to assume [br]and always had to assume

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that my mother saw lots and lots[br]and lots of things.

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So here was this little old lady who[br]had been killed for seemingly no reason.

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Several other people had stopped[br]and she was almost across the street

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and then boom, she was dead.

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So, you know this -- because I was trying[br]to get over the actual event,

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because it really man-handled [br]the entire town, this event,

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a lot of people saw it, I just kind of[br]lived with it for a while, and then

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you know what happened, Miles?

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December 31st, 2010, John Wheeler [br]was killed in DC -- do you remember that?

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(Miles) remind me[br](Cara) Well, he was the fellow

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who supposedly was responsible[br]for getting the Vietnam War Memorial

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erected, but he was working as an[br]independent contractor for the government,

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he was a liaison between the Pentagon[br]and some really serious (blank).

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He was also an adviser, probably[br]a security adviser, I'm trying to remember

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to three presidents, and they found[br]the guy in a dumpster --

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do you remember this?[br](Miles) no but--

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(Cara) Well, they did, they found[br]him in a dumpster

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(Miles) For the sake of argument (check)[br]just tell it ....

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(Cara) Yes. December 31st they found[br]this guy in a dumpster.

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He was a West Point graduate, I mean,[br]his credentials were impeccable,

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most surely, he was working for Alphabet[br]operations, so he is not --

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I mean, one would expect a man like him

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to be working for all kinds of people [br]like that, but it was so random

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and so jarring that this had happened [br]that it really reminded me of my mom.

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And it's not that I thought [br]they knew each other,

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that's not what I mean at all, it's just[br]that it took me back to this idea

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that civilians working for the military[br]could just potentially be expendable, yes?

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OK, so I'm thinking about that[br]on December 31st 2010

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and then the next day, January 1st 2011,

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is the day all the birds started falling[br]from the sky in Arkansas.

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And the fish start-- well, God knows[br]how long it was actually happening

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but this is when it came to our attention,

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tens of thousands of birds [br]fell out of the sky the next day,

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the next day in Arkansas, and all [br]the fish started washing up on the shores.

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Yes?[br](Miles) Which is happening now.

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(Cara) which has been happening daily,[br]I mean, I've seen lists

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of what's still going on, it's incredible[br]what's going on.

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So what that made me think of was myself.

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was electromagnetic weapons. Atmospheric weapons, you know?

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and when they tried to describe what happened to these birds there were no

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outside wounds. they were all internal organs having sort of burst.

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this is, i mean, this is a different form of weaponry. yeah?

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and and this brought me back to thinking, wondering, what my mother had scene.

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and if it was possible that she had, you know,

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it had been convenient to remove somebody, who by the way

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in that point in her life could not even remember her own

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social security number. She was, you know, however

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one of the people that I worked with, later on, about

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a year after I started writing the book, and when the book was published.

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I was trying to get some United States, some attention for it in the United States

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that would be the sun thief, was Gordon Duff

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And Duff's embroiled in his own stuff right now but

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at the time, which was almost two years ago

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I contacted him and asked him about the situation

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thinking he might be able[br]to shed some light on it,

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you know?

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And the one thing he did say to me was

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"This happens more often than you can possibly imagine"

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civilians working for the government are expendable. (9:35)