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♪ theme music ♪
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(Derek) Welcome to Hope Sabbath School,
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an in-depth, interactive study
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of the Word of God.
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I'm glad you joined us today.
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In fact, I'm excited as we begin
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a brand new series of studies
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on the book of Daniel.
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This is going to be life-changing,
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and I hope you'll be able to join us
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for the entire series.
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We're always happy to hear
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from our Hope Sabbath School members[br]around the world.
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Now we're in 220 countries[br]around the world,
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so we're glad you're part
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of our Hope Sabbath School family;[br]we welcome you.
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Welcome to the team, by the way,
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glad you're all here.
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And here's a note from Lucy.
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She says, "I'm from Kenya,
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but I'm living and working
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in the Ivory Coast."
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I love this comment; she says,
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"I'm recently married,
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and Hope Sabbath School
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has been a great teaching for me
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as a young wife and mother.
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Thank you so much to the entire team.
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It's important to note the Bible gives us
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guidance on every aspect of life,"[br]is that right?
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Well, she talks about some things[br]related to family,
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but she says, "My prayer is for God
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to give me grace to be a virtuous woman,
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even in this day and age
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where sin has dominated the world."
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What do you say?
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(Team) Amen.
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(Derek) That's powerful, isn't it?
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"Hope Sabbath School teachings
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are a great blessing
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to many all around the world.
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God continue to use you."
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Well, Lucy, thanks for writing[br]to us from Kenya,
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actually from Ivory Coast, Côte d'Ivoire,
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but a Kenyan living there,
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and we're glad that God is the center
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of your home; that's beautiful.
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Emmanuel writes to us
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from Zambia, a great place,
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lots of Hope Sabbath School members[br]in Zambia.
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Emmanuel says, "I'm really grateful
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to Hope Sabbath School
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for the good work you're doing.
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It helps me in my study,
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but I'm also a teacher.
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You're helping me to teach my class well."
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(Team) Amen.
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(Derek) Now, our prayer
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is that Hope Sabbath School
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would be multiplied 10,000 times over,
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so that's wonderful, Emmanuel.
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"The Good Lord always bless you
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as you continue blessing others."
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Well, thanks for writing to us, and greet
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all of our Hope Sabbath School members[br]there in Zambia.
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Here's a note from a donor in Georgia
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in the United States of America.
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We don't read names
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but a beautiful letter, "I'm so excited
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to be writing this letter."
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This is a real letter, not an email.
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"I've been watching Hope Sabbath School[br]for a few years.
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After each episode, I tell myself,
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'You need to become a donation disciple.'"
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Well, we call those "sustaining partners."
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We're part of the mission together.
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"A few weeks ago, the Lord blessed me
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with some extra money,
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and this is my gift
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for Hope Sabbath School.
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May God continue to bless this ministry.
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And please tell Jason hello from me,
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and I'm looking forward
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to seeing him lead out again."
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Well, that will happen later
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in the series, right?
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But thanks so much to that donor,
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and a gift of 1220 dollars!
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So, praise God; that's going
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to really help the ministry as we're
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sharing with Hope Sabbath School members
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in now 220 countries around the world,[br]like Ethiopia.
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Thank you, Thanyang, for writing
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to us from Ethiopia, "I thank Almighty God
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for what you're doing.
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Your message is reaching my heart."
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(Team) Amen.
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(Derek) He says, "Don't give up.
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The Lord will strengthen you.
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I download Hope Sabbath School
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on YouTube and watch it.
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Thank you very much, from Ethiopia."
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Well, thanks so much
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for writing to us, Thanyang.
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It really is amazing to know
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so many countries are being impacted,
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even the United States of America.
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Here's one from Maryland
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in the United States,
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and Ester writes and says,
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"We," writing with her husband,
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"thank God for Hope Sabbath School.
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We watch you every week,
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and we learn so much!
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Your class members[br]are connected to God."
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We say?
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(Team) Amen.
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(Derek) Praise God.
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"My husband and I enjoy
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your practical applications,
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your personal testimonies,
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and the Scripture songs."
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Well, Ester, stay with us
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(and your husband).
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We have a Scripture song
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coming up right now.
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"Singing Scripture helps us
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remember more of the Bible."
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And that is just so true.
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You can go to our website,[br]hopetv.org/hopess.
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You can download the theme song
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for this series on the book of Daniel.
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It's taken from Daniel, chapter 2,
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verses 20 through 23;
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it's called, "Blessed be the Name of God."
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And I'm actually quite excited today
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because I've asked one
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of our Hope Sabbath School team,
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who is about the same age as Daniel
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at the time that Daniel 2 happened,
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if he'd come and lead the song for us.
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So, Adison, come up here and...
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Yeah, it's amazing to realize, Adison,
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Daniel was just a young man,
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in his early twenties.
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And Adison is going to sing
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the song through once
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so we can learn it
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and then invite us to all sing together.
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♪ music ♪
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(Derek) Amen. Let's pray together
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that the Holy Spirit of God would guide us
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in this sacred book, the book of Daniel,
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inspired by the Holy Spirit.
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Our Father in Heaven,
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You sealed up this book, You said,
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until the time of the end,
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but now is the time
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that we need to understand,
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more fully than ever before,[br]the revelation
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given to the prophet Daniel.
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And so we pray in the name of Jesus
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that You would guide
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our Hope Sabbath School family[br]around the world,
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and as we engage in this in-depth,[br]interactive study.
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And I pray as Daniel prayed
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that You, God of wisdom and might,
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would give us wisdom as we study
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and give us strength, not only physically
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but mentally and spiritually
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to be all that You've called us to be
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in these last days of Earth's history.
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We thank You and we praise You
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for hearing our prayer.
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In the name of Jesus. Amen.
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(Team) Amen.
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(Derek) We're going to start
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in our first study,
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From Reading to Understanding.
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It's kind of a background
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to studying any Bible prophecy
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or any book of the Bible,
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moving from just reading the words
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to actually understanding.
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And I'd like to begin
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with a basic presupposition
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which Jesus gave us in Luke, chapter 24,
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and that is that Jesus Christ
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is the center of Scripture,
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which means He's the center[br]of the book of...?
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(Derek, Team) Daniel.
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(Derek) So let's begin.
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Jason, would you read for us
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in Luke 24, verses 25 to 27.
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Jesus is just kind of about to give
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a Bible study, actually, to two disciples
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on the Emmaus road,
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and let's hear what he says.
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(Jason) I'll be reading
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from the New King James Version,
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Luke, chapter 24, verses 25 through 27:
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(Derek) So we could conclude, Stephanie,
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from that, at least that Jesus Christ[br]is revealed...?
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(Stephanie) In Daniel.
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(Derek) Well, Moses, at least,[br]right, and the...?
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(Derek, Team) Prophets.
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(Derek) And Daniel, you're saying,
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is one of the prophets.
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So we're going to go there and look.
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But Jesus will actually go beyond that.
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Someone said He mentions
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the Psalms, which He does,
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when He says this again
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at the end of Luke 24.
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But look in John 5, Daisy, verse 39,
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John, chapter 5, verse 39.
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Not just saying, "I'm revealed in Moses,
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and I'm revealed in the prophets,"
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but He makes an even broader statement.
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What does Jesus say in John 5[br]and verse 39?
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(Daisy) I'll be reading
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from the New Living Translation:
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(Derek) Period. How much
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of the Scriptures point to Jesus?
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(Team) All.
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(Derek) So now, we would say
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that some of the Scriptures
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are more explicit, right, more direct.
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We're going to look at some prophecies
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that are very direct
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about where Messiah will be born,
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things that will happen to Him.
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Some are less direct,
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but He's the center of it all.
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So with that in mind,
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Travis, would you take us to Daniel 7?
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(Travis) Sure.
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(Derek) Verses 13 and 14,[br]it's one example,
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and then I'd like you all
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to just do a little computer search.
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We're just doing an introduction here.
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Where else from your study
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of the book of Daniel
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do you see Jesus clearly revealed?
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But let's look at Daniel 7:13-14.
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(Travis) And I'll be reading
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from the New King James Version:
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(Derek) "Son of Man," where else
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do you hear that term anywhere
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in the Bible, "Son of Man"?
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In the Gospels, right?
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It's referring to Messiah,
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also in the book of Revelation.
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So very clearly here in Daniel 7,
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it's speaking about the Son of God
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who will, what, 600 years later,
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come into humanity, in the Person
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of Jesus of Nazareth.
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We call Him Jesus Christ
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because His beginning
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is from eternity past, right?
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"In the beginning was that Word,
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and the Word was with God,[br]and the Word..."?
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(Derek, Team) Was God.
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(Derek) "And the Word became flesh
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and dwelt among us."
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Where else in Daniel, though, anybody?
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Tricia Lee, Gary, yeah, what do you think?
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We don't need to read the text,
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just give me a few ideas.
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(Gary) Okay, the 490-day prophecy?
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(Derek) Okay, yeah, you're
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in Daniel, chapter 9,
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where it actually talks
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about what's going to happen,
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the baptism of Jesus, or His anointing,
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and in the midst of the week,
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three-and-a-half years into His ministry,
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Messiah will be cut off?
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So that's a powerful reference.[br]Tricia Lee?
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(Tricia Lee) There's a reference
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with the famous story of the fiery furnace
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where the king looks in, and he says,
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"I see one like the Son of God,"[br]the Son of Man, "in the midst."
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(Derek) It's interesting, someone
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asked the translation.
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Someone translations say,
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"One like the son of the gods."
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One other says, "like the Son of God."
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The bottom line is Nebuchadnezzar
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looked in and said,
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"There's a divine Being[br]in there with them."
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Another place in the book of Daniel
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where you see a reference[br]to Jesus, Adison?
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(Adison) Throughout Daniel 8,
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I see Christ depicted as a high priest...
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(Derek) Okay.
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(Adison) ...in the sanctuary.
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(Derek) All right, anybody else? Travis?
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(Travis) In Daniel, chapter 12, Michael,
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when He stands up.
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(Derek) "One who is like God," right,
0:14:47.811,0:14:51.209
"stands up," to deliver His people.
0:14:51.209,0:14:52.795
Nobody mentioned Daniel 2.
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Where's Jesus in Daniel 2? Jason?
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(Jason) At the end of Daniel 2,
0:14:57.504,0:14:59.023
when the statue is destroyed,
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there's a kingdom; God sets up a kingdom,
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and Jesus is the One
0:15:02.322,0:15:03.921
who's given the Kingdom.
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(Derek) "And on this Rock," yeah,
0:15:06.297,0:15:08.760
so Jesus is the Rock; He's the foundation,
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but He's also the rock cut out[br]without human hands.
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So, you say, "Wow, we just took
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kind of a fast flight
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through the whole book, but Jesus,
0:15:16.927,0:15:19.048
this is a foundational principle,
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we want to see Jesus
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in the book of Daniel, because He's there.
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We want to see the Son of God[br]revealed there.
0:15:26.309,0:15:27.265
So I have a question
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before we move on into the details.
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Why is that foundation important?
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Why is it important that we always say,
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"Where is Jesus here?"
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What do you think?
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Why is that important? Yes, Adison?
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(Adison) Just as Jesus is
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the center of Daniel and the whole Bible,
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He wants to be the center of our own life.
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(Derek) Ahh! So it's not just information,[br]but it's what?
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(Adison) Translated
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into a personal relationship.
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(Derek) A personal relationship[br]with God, right?
0:15:56.290,0:15:58.511
It's very personal; Jesus says,
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"Come to Me; I will give you rest,"
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not just hear some information,[br]right? Travis?
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(Travis) I think it's important, too,
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because then we begin to develop
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an understanding of His character.
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And if it's just about ordinances
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and different things like that,
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and rules and laws and all that...
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(Derek) And even fulfillments[br]of prophecy, right?
0:16:16.587,0:16:18.902
(Travis) But it's revealing His character.
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(Derek) Beautiful.
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So with that foundation,
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we're going to go into the structure
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of the book of Daniel.
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Now, here is where all kinds
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of Bible scholars come in,
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and they have things
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that they call chiasms;
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that's kind of like a triangle, you know?
0:16:32.743,0:16:35.095
I'm not an expert in Old Testament[br]theology,
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but they have chiasms,
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and at the center is, like,
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what's really important, right?
0:16:42.085,0:16:45.672
So, if you take a look at the big picture,
0:16:45.672,0:16:48.282
the book of Daniel begins with a prophecy.
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of, well, it first starts
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with Daniel himself, right,
0:16:51.087,0:16:53.600
but then the prophecy is about what?
0:16:53.600,0:16:55.476
Four kingdoms, right?
0:16:55.476,0:16:56.963
That's in chapter 2, right?
0:16:56.963,0:16:59.372
If I had six hands, this would help me,
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but let's start with the four kingdoms.
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Daniel 3 is about...? A trial, right?
0:17:07.532,0:17:10.429
And God's people are faithful, right?
0:17:10.429,0:17:13.875
Daniel, chapter 4...?
0:17:13.875,0:17:16.831
It's about a judgment of someone, who?
0:17:16.831,0:17:18.374
Of King Nebuchadnezzar,
0:17:18.374,0:17:19.613
who is filled with pride.
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Now, praise God, stay with us[br]in the series
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because he's going
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to give his heart to God,
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and we're going to see Nebuchadnezzar
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in the Kingdom of Heaven.
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That's amazing, because he did
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a lot of bad things in the past, right?
0:17:30.629,0:17:31.769
I mean, he didn't have
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a great reputation, right?
0:17:33.404,0:17:34.880
Then Daniel, chapter 5...
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Here's the judgment, by the way,
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four kingdoms, faithful people delivered,
0:17:39.933,0:17:42.659
judgment on Nebuchadnezzar.
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Chapter 5 is judgment on...?
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(Derek, Team) Babylon.
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(Derek) So, judgment, and that's
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where, of course, Daniel 7[br]will come in, too.
0:17:50.259,0:17:52.005
Judgment of God's people
0:17:52.005,0:17:54.227
who are also going to be vindicated.
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And then what's in Daniel,
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chapters 7, 8 and 9?
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Excuse me, Daniel 6, first,
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is deliverance, just like the three
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in the furnace, right?
0:18:06.684,0:18:09.745
And then 7, 8, and 9
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and on through the end of the book is...?
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The four kingdoms again, right?
0:18:13.764,0:18:16.409
So there's like this triangle.
0:18:16.409,0:18:19.276
Now, I want to give you one Bible text.
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You say, "Derek, that's, like,[br]really complicated,"
0:18:22.475,0:18:24.292
but I want to suggest to you
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the Holy Spirit not only guided Daniel
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in what he wrote,
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but the Holy Spirit also guided him[br]how he wrote.
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Think about that - how he wrote.
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I added a verse here,
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and, Charity, if you'd read it for us.
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It's in 2 Peter; I added a verse [br]to our study.
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I was praying this morning,
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and I was just impressed
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we need to hear this verse again.
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Second Peter, if you're following[br]in your Bible,
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chapter 1, verses 19 through 21,
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because it reinforces something
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that's so important for all of us,
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especially as Hope Sabbath School members[br]around the world,
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and that is that this is not
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human words about God.
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This is the Word of God
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to the human family.
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So, Charity, 2 Peter, chapter 1,
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beginning with verse 19
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and down through verse 21,
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how does that read in your Bible?
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(Charity) All right, and I'll be reading
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from the New King James Version,
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2 Peter, chapter 1, verses 19 to 21:
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(Derek) That's a powerful text , isn't it?
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By the way, did you see that Jesus[br]is the center even there?
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(Team) Yes.
0:20:08.796,0:20:10.400
(Derek) Where? What did you hear?
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The morning star rising
0:20:11.517,0:20:12.655
in your hearts, right?
0:20:12.655,0:20:14.208
It's all about Him,
0:20:14.208,0:20:17.796
but we see that the Holy Spirit[br]is guiding Daniel,
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not only giving him a message,
0:20:19.749,0:20:21.103
but even guiding him
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in how to share that message.
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And the judgment is at the very heart.
0:20:25.582,0:20:27.805
Now, typically when we think of judgment,
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do we have positive or negative thoughts,
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Michael, what do you think - judgment?
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(Michael) Usually negative.
0:20:33.002,0:20:34.252
(Derek) Negative thoughts.
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So why would the judgment
0:20:36.180,0:20:38.314
be a positive thought
0:20:38.314,0:20:40.858
for the saints of the Most High God,
0:20:40.858,0:20:42.783
as they called it in the book of Daniel?
0:20:42.783,0:20:44.634
Why would that be a good thing?
0:20:44.634,0:20:46.807
Elise, the judgment.
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(Elise) Because that's when God
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vindicates His people,
0:20:49.894,0:20:52.708
especially in the context of in times
0:20:52.708,0:20:54.434
when they were in captivity;
0:20:54.434,0:20:55.597
they would look forward
0:20:55.597,0:20:57.984
to something changing.
0:20:57.984,0:21:00.837
(Derek) Liberation, freedom? A new day?
0:21:00.837,0:21:03.040
So, the judgment is in favor
0:21:03.040,0:21:04.331
of the saints, right?
0:21:04.331,0:21:05.984
It's a vindication, so it actually
0:21:05.984,0:21:07.621
becomes good news for us.
0:21:07.621,0:21:09.003
Now, I have another question.
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We're just looking broad picture,
0:21:10.610,0:21:12.486
then we're going to get into the text.
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If you've studied Daniel 2,
0:21:15.124,0:21:18.256
it appears that in Daniel 7, in Daniel 8,
0:21:18.256,0:21:21.226
in Daniel 9, it's kind of repeated,
0:21:21.226,0:21:24.942
like, four kingdoms, four kingdoms.
0:21:24.942,0:21:27.397
By the way, you'll find the reference
0:21:27.397,0:21:29.537
in Revelation, too, to these kingdoms.
0:21:29.537,0:21:31.332
Why do you think, Daisy,
0:21:31.332,0:21:32.716
they're, like, repeated?
0:21:32.716,0:21:34.271
Why don't they just have the one
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of the metal man, which shows...
0:21:36.382,0:21:38.115
By the way, what does it show
0:21:38.115,0:21:40.633
when it shows this sequence of kingdoms?
0:21:40.633,0:21:42.034
What does that show?
0:21:42.034,0:21:44.468
Really important, what does it show[br]about God?
0:21:44.468,0:21:47.120
(Derek, Team) He knows the end[br]from the beginning.
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(Derek) By the way, these prophecies
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in the books of Daniel and Revelation
0:21:52.273,0:21:55.585
have caused skeptics to become believers.
0:21:55.585,0:21:56.644
Yeah, and, by the way,
0:21:56.644,0:21:58.217
I will just pause for a second.
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I'm going to speak
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to our Hope Sabbath School family.
0:22:00.722,0:22:03.665
We have a chapter-by-chapter Bible study
0:22:03.665,0:22:05.613
on Daniel and Revelation.
0:22:05.613,0:22:08.109
If you go to Hopebiblestudy.org
0:22:08.109,0:22:09.204
because we're not going
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to learn it all in this series,
0:22:10.684,0:22:12.632
but Hopebiblestudy.org.
0:22:12.632,0:22:14.358
I'm praying hundreds of people
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would keep studying in depth
0:22:16.245,0:22:18.753
because this is a crucial message
0:22:18.753,0:22:20.518
for these last days, right?
0:22:20.518,0:22:23.397
So, why is it repeated over[br]and over again?
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(Daisy) Because it's important.
0:22:25.280,0:22:26.511
(Derek) It's important.
0:22:26.511,0:22:27.610
(Travis) Clarification.
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(Derek) Clarification.
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(Travis) Make sure we get it right.
0:22:30.377,0:22:32.024
(Derek) Make sure we get it right.
0:22:32.024,0:22:34.782
Are new things added? More details?
0:22:34.782,0:22:35.974
Okay, so you've got
0:22:35.974,0:22:37.524
the broad picture. Stephanie?
0:22:37.524,0:22:38.792
(Stephanie) I was thinking
0:22:38.792,0:22:40.252
repetition deepens impression,
0:22:40.252,0:22:41.302
but also what he does
0:22:41.302,0:22:43.213
is he repeats and expands.
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(Derek) Okay, spoken as a teacher, right?
0:22:46.041,0:22:48.900
Repetition deepens impression,
0:22:48.900,0:22:50.846
but it's not just repetition,
0:22:50.846,0:22:53.672
it's repetition and expansion,
0:22:53.672,0:22:54.934
so, greater details.
0:22:54.934,0:22:56.455
For example, when you talked
0:22:56.455,0:22:57.993
about the 70 weeks
0:22:57.993,0:22:59.481
and about Messiah coming,
0:22:59.481,0:23:01.068
it's a lot more than in Daniel,
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chapter 2, right? Jason?
0:23:03.350,0:23:05.601
(Jason) It also provides[br]more authority as well,
0:23:05.601,0:23:07.583
because when you say something just once,
0:23:07.583,0:23:09.161
okay, well it's easy to dismiss.
0:23:09.161,0:23:11.064
But when you say it five or ten times,
0:23:11.064,0:23:13.482
it has an authoritative kind of mark[br]or seal on it.
0:23:13.482,0:23:15.487
(Derek) So, here we've laid a foundation.
0:23:15.487,0:23:17.417
Already we're sensing this is important,
0:23:17.417,0:23:20.119
and Jesus is at the center of it.
0:23:20.119,0:23:21.719
And we're going to discover
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many amazing lessons as we study together.
0:23:24.781,0:23:26.361
But now I want to talk
0:23:26.361,0:23:28.642
about the type of prophecy
0:23:28.642,0:23:31.517
that we find in the book of Daniel, okay?
0:23:31.517,0:23:33.167
So, the difference
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between what we call apocalyptic
0:23:37.611,0:23:40.957
(the apocalypse is the end[br]of things, right),
0:23:40.957,0:23:42.695
the apocalyptic prophecy
0:23:42.695,0:23:46.088
and regular or classical prophecy.
0:23:46.088,0:23:49.760
Let's look at a few classical prophecies,
0:23:49.760,0:23:51.079
and then we'll look at some
0:23:51.079,0:23:53.297
of the apocalyptic prophecies,
0:23:53.297,0:23:54.647
including one from Daniel,
0:23:54.647,0:23:55.632
and then you tell me
0:23:55.632,0:23:56.865
what's the big difference
0:23:56.865,0:23:58.344
that you see, okay?
0:23:58.344,0:24:02.641
So, let's start in Jonah, chapter 3.
0:24:02.641,0:24:04.195
These are little books.
0:24:04.195,0:24:05.946
Wave at me when you find it.
0:24:05.946,0:24:07.783
Okay, Rod, would you read Jonah,
0:24:07.783,0:24:12.008
chapter 3, and read verses 3 and 4 for us,
0:24:12.008,0:24:14.829
verses 3 and 4 of Jonah, chapter 3.
0:24:14.829,0:24:15.916
(Rod) I'll be reading
0:24:15.916,0:24:17.375
from the King James Version:
0:24:37.253,0:24:38.473
(Derek) Is there anything
0:24:38.473,0:24:41.190
hard to understand about that?
0:24:41.190,0:24:42.565
How many days have you got?
0:24:42.565,0:24:43.321
(Team) Forty.
0:24:43.321,0:24:45.069
(Derek) Forty days, and what's going
0:24:45.069,0:24:46.980
to happen at the end (it's a prophecy)?
0:24:46.980,0:24:48.461
(Stephanie, Derek) Destruction.
0:24:48.461,0:24:50.459
(Derek) Now, one of the things we'll learn
0:24:50.459,0:24:54.027
is that some prophecies are conditional.
0:24:54.027,0:24:55.908
What did Nineveh do?
0:24:55.908,0:24:58.201
The king led the way. Adison?
0:24:58.201,0:24:59.296
(Adison) They repented.
0:24:59.296,0:25:00.345
(Derek) They repented.
0:25:00.345,0:25:02.205
(Adison) Turned from their wicked ways.
0:25:02.205,0:25:04.161
(Derek) They were bad people, too, right?
0:25:04.161,0:25:05.777
Of course, all of us were sinners,
0:25:05.777,0:25:07.631
but they were known for their ferocity,
0:25:07.631,0:25:10.552
and they repented in sackcloth and ashes,
0:25:10.552,0:25:12.573
and God accepted their repentance.
0:25:12.573,0:25:14.617
But that was a very clear prophecy.
0:25:14.617,0:25:16.804
"You've got 40 days to decide,
0:25:16.804,0:25:19.083
because after that, judgment is coming."
0:25:19.083,0:25:20.369
Let's look at another one.
0:25:20.369,0:25:23.867
Micah, it's right after the book of Jonah,[br]chapter 5.
0:25:23.867,0:25:25.169
Let me know if you have it.
0:25:25.169,0:25:30.132
Tricia Lee, Micah, chapter 5, and verse 2.
0:25:30.132,0:25:31.200
(Tricia Lee) It reads:
0:25:46.952,0:25:48.705
(Derek) That would be fulfilled
0:25:48.705,0:25:51.100
hundreds of years later
0:25:51.100,0:25:52.803
when what happened?
0:25:52.803,0:25:54.726
(Derek, Team) When Jesus was born.
0:25:54.726,0:25:57.796
(Derek) But He says He's[br]Jesus of Nazareth,
0:25:57.796,0:25:59.016
but where was He born?
0:25:59.016,0:26:00.099
(Team) Bethlehem.
0:26:00.099,0:26:01.365
(Derek) Born in Bethlehem,
0:26:01.365,0:26:02.876
just as the prophecy predicted.
0:26:02.876,0:26:04.510
And it took, of course, the decree
0:26:04.510,0:26:06.322
for the empire to be taxed
0:26:06.322,0:26:09.631
to bring him back to Joseph's home city
0:26:09.631,0:26:12.040
of Bethlehem, okay?
0:26:12.040,0:26:13.269
Fairly clear, right?
0:26:13.269,0:26:15.882
It is talking about something[br]in the future.
0:26:15.882,0:26:17.508
It shows us that God knows
0:26:17.508,0:26:18.817
the end from the beginning
0:26:18.817,0:26:19.796
as Rod pointed out.
0:26:19.796,0:26:21.582
By the way, that is in the Scripture,
0:26:21.582,0:26:23.321
"I know the end from the beginning."
0:26:23.321,0:26:25.720
That's in Isaiah's book.
0:26:25.720,0:26:27.705
But it's fairly clear what it's saying.
0:26:27.705,0:26:29.481
Let's look at one more,
0:26:29.481,0:26:30.580
a little farther along
0:26:30.580,0:26:32.787
in the minor prophets, Zechariah,
0:26:32.787,0:26:35.353
chapter 9 and verse 9.
0:26:35.353,0:26:37.013
Laurel, do you have Zechariah?
0:26:37.013,0:26:38.705
Chapter 9 and verse 9,
0:26:38.705,0:26:40.348
this is another prophecy,
0:26:40.348,0:26:43.114
what we might call a classical prophecy.
0:26:43.114,0:26:44.645
What does it say?
0:26:44.645,0:26:45.793
(Laurel) I'll be reading
0:26:45.793,0:26:47.727
from the New American Standard Bible:
0:27:07.046,0:27:09.073
(Derek) Now, when they hear[br]about the king,
0:27:09.073,0:27:11.040
they go, "Hallelujah" because they think
0:27:11.040,0:27:13.022
Messiah is going to be a great Deliverer,
0:27:13.022,0:27:15.432
right, overthrow all of the bondage,
0:27:15.432,0:27:17.260
but we get a little clue
0:27:17.260,0:27:20.001
that it's a different kind of conqueror
0:27:20.001,0:27:21.643
because He's humble,
0:27:21.643,0:27:23.390
and He's riding on a donkey,
0:27:23.390,0:27:25.247
actually, not even a full-sized donkey,
0:27:25.247,0:27:29.489
a little donkey, right, fulfilled when?
0:27:29.489,0:27:31.925
(Team) Palm Sunday.
0:27:31.925,0:27:33.947
(Derek) On what we call Palm Sunday
0:27:33.947,0:27:36.979
or the triumphal entry of Jesus
0:27:36.979,0:27:40.757
during the end of the ministry of Jesus.
0:27:40.757,0:27:43.108
Prediction, by the Holy Spirit,
0:27:43.108,0:27:45.910
God knows the end from the beginning,[br]fulfillment.
0:27:45.910,0:27:47.421
Are you with me so far?
0:27:47.421,0:27:48.329
(Team) Yes.
0:27:48.329,0:27:49.487
(Derek) Now, let's go
0:27:49.487,0:27:51.705
to what we call apocalyptic prophecy.
0:27:51.705,0:27:55.103
Elise, could you read for us in Daniel,
0:27:55.103,0:27:57.849
and let's go to Daniel, chapter 7,
0:27:57.849,0:27:59.499
and read the first six verses.
0:27:59.499,0:28:00.519
Now, we're not going
0:28:00.519,0:28:03.515
to unpack all of this and draw diagrams.
0:28:03.515,0:28:05.901
We're just using an illustration here
0:28:05.901,0:28:09.217
to see, wow, this apocalyptic prophecy
0:28:09.217,0:28:12.913
is different from the classical prophecies[br]we've been reading.
0:28:12.913,0:28:15.033
Same Holy Spirit, same God
0:28:15.033,0:28:16.840
who knows the end from the beginning,
0:28:16.840,0:28:20.858
but let's take a look at Daniel 7,[br]verses 1 to 6.
0:28:20.858,0:28:21.940
(Elise) I'm reading
0:28:21.940,0:28:23.558
from English Standard Version:
0:29:20.159,0:29:21.787
(Derek) So, what's the first thing
0:29:21.787,0:29:22.924
you notice in verse 1?
0:29:22.924,0:29:26.138
How is this revelation given to Daniel?
0:29:26.138,0:29:27.555
In visions and a dream.
0:29:27.555,0:29:29.472
Now, could classical prophecy
0:29:29.472,0:29:31.544
be given in a vision and a dream, too?
0:29:31.544,0:29:34.090
Absolutely, so that part
0:29:34.090,0:29:36.875
is not necessarily different, right?
0:29:36.875,0:29:39.315
But now we start seeing
0:29:39.315,0:29:43.263
animals, right, coming up.
0:29:43.263,0:29:45.025
What's the first clue that this isn't
0:29:45.025,0:29:46.796
just like a regular prophecy?
0:29:46.796,0:29:48.861
Are these real animals?
0:29:48.861,0:29:49.940
(Adison) Symbols.
0:29:49.940,0:29:51.081
(Derek) They're symbols.
0:29:51.081,0:29:52.563
How do you know they're symbols
0:29:52.563,0:29:53.639
and not a real lion
0:29:53.639,0:29:56.777
just walking by the sea, or a real bear?
0:29:56.777,0:29:58.394
(Charity) It reads, "like a lion."
0:29:58.394,0:30:00.457
(Derek) Oh, it's like a lion because...?
0:30:00.457,0:30:02.464
(Stephanie) They're trying to describe it.
0:30:02.464,0:30:04.528
(Derek) Right. Rod, what do you see there?
0:30:04.528,0:30:05.714
(Rod) It also had wings.
0:30:05.714,0:30:06.957
(Derek) It's got wings!
0:30:06.957,0:30:10.750
Lions don't have wings, right?
0:30:10.750,0:30:14.990
You almost see Daniel, what...?
0:30:14.990,0:30:16.372
He's kind of struggling
0:30:16.372,0:30:18.710
to describe these beasts there,
0:30:18.710,0:30:20.921
and the fourth one's the worst of all.
0:30:20.921,0:30:25.392
It's like a nondescript beast, right,
0:30:25.392,0:30:26.961
with iron teeth and iron claws
0:30:26.961,0:30:28.745
he'll go on in the chapter.
0:30:28.745,0:30:30.950
So, Adison, you mentioned,
0:30:30.950,0:30:34.954
these are symbols that are[br]being used. Travis?
0:30:34.954,0:30:36.974
(Travis) They're also rising out of a sea;
0:30:36.974,0:30:38.422
it's obvious that land animals
0:30:38.422,0:30:40.209
can't live in a sea, so, you know...
0:30:40.209,0:30:42.064
(Derek) And we'll come to, in a minute,
0:30:42.064,0:30:43.259
what the sea represents,
0:30:43.259,0:30:45.994
but there's just a lot of symbolism here.
0:30:45.994,0:30:50.360
But God is revealing just as He did
0:30:50.360,0:30:51.626
in...what was Daniel 2?
0:30:51.626,0:30:53.145
What was the vision there?
0:30:53.145,0:30:53.884
(Team) Statue.
0:30:53.884,0:30:55.013
(Derek) A metal statue,
0:30:55.013,0:30:56.810
but it wasn't all one metal, was it?
0:30:56.810,0:30:59.188
It was like a composite, all right?
0:30:59.188,0:31:01.547
So, we're seeing symbolism.
0:31:01.547,0:31:04.108
Let's hyperspace over to the book[br]of Revelation.
0:31:04.108,0:31:06.083
You can keep your place in Daniel,
0:31:06.083,0:31:09.444
but let's go to Revelation, chapter 13,
0:31:09.444,0:31:12.396
because Daniel and Revelation...
0:31:12.396,0:31:14.211
And, Tricia Lee, maybe you could read
0:31:14.211,0:31:15.929
Revelation 13 for us.
0:31:15.929,0:31:18.089
Again we're not going to unpack it all,
0:31:18.089,0:31:19.408
the first nine verses,
0:31:19.408,0:31:24.095
but they're kind of paired together,[br]aren't they.
0:31:24.095,0:31:27.366
In fact, the series that I recommended
0:31:27.366,0:31:29.686
from Hopebiblestudy.org
0:31:29.686,0:31:31.321
is chapter by chapter
0:31:31.321,0:31:33.193
on Daniel and Revelation
0:31:33.193,0:31:34.360
because they're related,
0:31:34.360,0:31:35.952
a great, great study.
0:31:35.952,0:31:38.190
Tricia Lee, the first nine verses,
0:31:38.190,0:31:40.143
we'd like to answer all of the questions,
0:31:40.143,0:31:41.510
but I'd just like you to see
0:31:41.510,0:31:43.178
the difference between the kind
0:31:43.178,0:31:44.580
of prophecies we read,
0:31:44.580,0:31:46.115
which were very straightforward,
0:31:46.115,0:31:48.270
and these that have a lot of symbolism.
0:31:48.270,0:31:49.501
(Tricia Lee) I'm reading
0:31:49.501,0:31:51.070
from the New King James Version:
0:33:05.298,0:33:06.815
(Derek) Sorry, go ahead.
0:33:18.789,0:33:20.525
(Derek) Do you see some similarities
0:33:20.525,0:33:24.040
between Daniel's prophecy we read[br]and Revelation?
0:33:24.040,0:33:25.218
What do you see?
0:33:25.218,0:33:27.423
They're not identical, right?
0:33:27.423,0:33:29.401
Stephanie, you talked about expanding.
0:33:29.401,0:33:30.454
What do you see there?
0:33:30.454,0:33:33.698
(Stephanie) Right, I see the same beasts
0:33:33.698,0:33:35.911
except they're in the reverse order.
0:33:35.911,0:33:37.071
(Derek) And they're all
0:33:37.071,0:33:38.572
kind of composite, aren't they?
0:33:38.572,0:33:40.024
It's all kind of put together.
0:33:40.024,0:33:41.479
It's like all of the kingdoms.
0:33:41.479,0:33:42.759
What else do you see
0:33:42.759,0:33:45.391
that's different here?
0:33:45.391,0:33:47.359
(Jason) I see another similarity.
0:33:47.359,0:33:48.561
(Derek) Okay, similarity.
0:33:48.561,0:33:50.064
(Jason) The sea, so something's
0:33:50.064,0:33:51.569
coming up out of the sea again.
0:33:51.569,0:33:54.416
(Derek) Okay, so you've got that symbolism[br]of the sea again,
0:33:54.416,0:33:56.162
and you've got animals again, right?
0:33:56.162,0:33:57.124
What else, Travis?
0:33:57.124,0:33:58.684
(Travis) It seems like they all
0:33:58.684,0:33:59.755
make up one beast now.
0:33:59.755,0:34:02.802
Instead of being separate beasts[br]in Daniel 7,
0:34:02.802,0:34:04.299
now they all make up one beast.
0:34:04.299,0:34:05.733
It's like the beast has taken
0:34:05.733,0:34:07.189
the attributes of all of this.
0:34:07.189,0:34:08.304
(Derek) And they're all
0:34:08.304,0:34:09.403
worshiping the dragon,
0:34:09.403,0:34:11.266
and people are like, "Wow, that sounds
0:34:11.266,0:34:14.870
like something from some kind of movie,[br]you know?
0:34:14.870,0:34:18.418
But the dragon is also a...?
0:34:18.418,0:34:22.005
It's a symbol, right, which will bring us
0:34:22.005,0:34:23.379
to the principle, which is,
0:34:23.379,0:34:25.479
how do we know what the beast represents,
0:34:25.479,0:34:26.675
what the sea represents,
0:34:26.675,0:34:28.291
what the dragon represents?
0:34:28.291,0:34:29.797
But do you see there's
0:34:29.797,0:34:32.060
also another element in this prophecy,
0:34:32.060,0:34:36.327
and that is the issue of time.
0:34:36.327,0:34:37.781
You say, "Forty-two months?"
0:34:37.781,0:34:40.263
That's what, three-and-a-half years?
0:34:40.263,0:34:41.366
That's not very long
0:34:41.366,0:34:44.145
for this power to dominate,
0:34:44.145,0:34:45.655
unless, of course, it's longer
0:34:45.655,0:34:47.711
than three-and-a-half years.
0:34:47.711,0:34:49.904
if there's another key that we need
0:34:49.904,0:34:51.838
to understand this power
0:34:51.838,0:34:55.960
that will dominate for a vast amount[br]of time, okay?
0:34:55.960,0:34:58.326
So we've got some idea here.
0:34:58.326,0:35:01.529
The classical prophecies, pretty simple,
0:35:01.529,0:35:02.801
"This is going to happen,
0:35:02.801,0:35:04.623
or it won't happen if you repent."
0:35:04.623,0:35:07.963
But now we get into symbols.
0:35:07.963,0:35:10.081
How do we find the key?
0:35:10.081,0:35:11.448
That's the next question
0:35:11.448,0:35:14.272
to unlock these apocalyptic
0:35:14.272,0:35:16.003
or End-Time prophecies.
0:35:16.003,0:35:17.454
How do we find the key?
0:35:17.454,0:35:19.494
Help me, someone. What do you think?
0:35:19.494,0:35:21.109
(Tricia Lee) Well, the good thing
0:35:21.109,0:35:23.347
is that we can use the Bible[br]to help understand
0:35:23.347,0:35:24.541
and interpret the Bible.
0:35:24.541,0:35:25.962
And specifically when Daniel,
0:35:25.962,0:35:27.828
he has questions that he asks as well,
0:35:27.828,0:35:29.202
and literally an angel comes
0:35:29.202,0:35:31.187
and explains some of these things to him.
0:35:31.187,0:35:33.064
So, in the book of Daniel specifically,
0:35:33.064,0:35:34.112
we actually have some
0:35:34.112,0:35:35.741
of his questions answered for us.
0:35:35.741,0:35:36.888
And in other prophecies
0:35:36.888,0:35:39.253
we're able to kind of search[br]the Scriptures,
0:35:39.253,0:35:40.350
and we're actually told
0:35:40.350,0:35:42.035
how to unlock some of these things.
0:35:42.035,0:35:46.104
(Derek) So, we'll look in the Scripture[br]to find keys.
0:35:46.104,0:35:48.068
Now, what if we get to the place
0:35:48.068,0:35:49.537
we don't understand it all?
0:35:49.537,0:35:50.667
Well, hold on a second;
0:35:50.667,0:35:52.903
we'll get there in just a minute.
0:35:52.903,0:35:54.563
There are various approaches
0:35:54.563,0:35:57.898
to understanding apocalyptic prophecy.
0:35:57.898,0:36:00.250
In our study, we outline them.
0:36:00.250,0:36:01.932
The preterist approach,
0:36:01.932,0:36:03.381
the futurist approach,
0:36:03.381,0:36:05.295
the idealist approach
0:36:05.295,0:36:06.996
and the historicist approach.
0:36:06.996,0:36:09.847
It's interesting that the Reformers
0:36:09.847,0:36:12.404
all followed the historicist approach.
0:36:12.404,0:36:14.647
They saw history unfolding,
0:36:14.647,0:36:18.656
and they actually saw the apostate church
0:36:18.656,0:36:21.104
clearly identified in those prophecies.
0:36:21.104,0:36:25.218
By the way, the apostate church[br]was us, right?
0:36:25.218,0:36:26.672
We were the Christian Church,
0:36:26.672,0:36:28.465
and the Church had gone away,
0:36:28.465,0:36:29.924
and the Reformers were trying
0:36:29.924,0:36:33.172
to call our Church, the Christian Church,
0:36:33.172,0:36:35.385
back to faithfulness to God.
0:36:35.385,0:36:38.167
But they saw clearly
0:36:38.167,0:36:40.310
that historical unfolding.
0:36:40.310,0:36:42.647
We call that the historicist approach.
0:36:42.647,0:36:44.092
But there were some people,
0:36:44.092,0:36:45.341
it's interesting, we don't
0:36:45.341,0:36:46.644
have time to expand on it,
0:36:46.644,0:36:49.647
who wanted to divert that interpretation,
0:36:49.647,0:36:52.289
so they came up with other ideas.
0:36:52.289,0:36:55.456
The preterist idea was what? Anybody know?
0:36:55.456,0:36:57.010
(Elise) It's already happened.
0:36:57.010,0:36:58.272
(Derek) Yeah, it was all
0:36:58.272,0:36:59.636
something in the past.
0:36:59.636,0:37:01.790
It's nothing to do with now.
0:37:01.790,0:37:03.692
That takes the heat off,
0:37:03.692,0:37:05.644
if prophecy is showing
0:37:05.644,0:37:07.596
a power out of harmony,
0:37:07.596,0:37:09.401
especially if it's a religious power,
0:37:09.401,0:37:10.848
out of harmony with the Word
0:37:10.848,0:37:12.173
and the will of God.
0:37:12.173,0:37:13.620
Or another thing you could do
0:37:13.620,0:37:15.966
to take the heat off of the prophecy
0:37:15.966,0:37:18.148
pointing at a problem that's happening
0:37:18.148,0:37:19.664
is to put it all...?
0:37:19.664,0:37:21.010
(Team) In the future.
0:37:21.010,0:37:22.599
(Derek) Right, it's all somewhere
0:37:22.599,0:37:24.760
right at the end; it's nothing[br]to do with now.
0:37:24.760,0:37:26.952
We call that the futurist.
0:37:26.952,0:37:30.803
So, all in the past, all in the future,
0:37:30.803,0:37:32.520
and what about this idealist?
0:37:32.520,0:37:34.273
That's a new one. Gary?
0:37:34.273,0:37:37.852
(Gary) Everything that is symbolic[br]is just symbolic.
0:37:37.852,0:37:41.204
It doesn't mean anything literally.
0:37:41.204,0:37:43.296
(Derek) Okay, so it's maybe...
0:37:43.296,0:37:44.849
By the way, people do that
0:37:44.849,0:37:46.221
with even the Gospels.
0:37:46.221,0:37:47.986
They say, "Well, Jesus wasn't
0:37:47.986,0:37:49.741
really tempted in the wilderness.
0:37:49.741,0:37:51.632
He didn't talk to Satan.
0:37:51.632,0:37:53.757
It's just like a parable
0:37:53.757,0:37:56.443
of a struggle between good and evil."
0:37:56.443,0:37:59.187
You read the text, and it's literal.
0:37:59.187,0:38:00.806
There's a literal conflict.
0:38:00.806,0:38:02.754
There's a literal battle,
0:38:02.754,0:38:04.451
just as you read in Revelation 12,
0:38:04.451,0:38:08.472
a literal war or conflict in Heaven.
0:38:08.472,0:38:12.562
So, I think we're safe to say let's
0:38:12.562,0:38:16.303
at least see what these great Reformers[br]through the ages,
0:38:16.303,0:38:19.072
how they saw the unfolding of Scripture
0:38:19.072,0:38:21.963
and see if it is accurate.
0:38:21.963,0:38:25.761
Does it show...By the way, to suggest
0:38:25.761,0:38:26.668
that these kingdoms
0:38:26.668,0:38:28.145
are not really kingdoms,
0:38:28.145,0:38:30.347
that it's just symbolic or...
0:38:30.347,0:38:32.497
No, it's a clear revelation
0:38:32.497,0:38:34.568
of what's going to happen, right?
0:38:34.568,0:38:36.463
An unfolding of Scripture,
0:38:36.463,0:38:38.540
one part to another.
0:38:38.540,0:38:40.964
So let's go to some keys; are you ready?
0:38:40.964,0:38:42.811
Let's look at a few keys together,
0:38:42.811,0:38:45.260
and I think Tricia Lee said some of them,
0:38:45.260,0:38:46.842
maybe the angel will tell us
0:38:46.842,0:38:47.961
what it means, right;
0:38:47.961,0:38:49.411
it will be right in the text.
0:38:49.411,0:38:52.784
Daniel, chapter 7, and, Daisy,
0:38:52.784,0:38:56.738
could you read for us Daniel 7:23-24?
0:38:56.738,0:38:58.246
We're laying a foundation
0:38:58.246,0:38:59.968
for an exciting series
0:38:59.968,0:39:01.278
on the book of Daniel.
0:39:01.278,0:39:05.393
We know at the very foundation is...?
0:39:05.393,0:39:06.516
(Team) Jesus.
0:39:06.516,0:39:08.184
(Derek) Jesus, right, Jesus Christ,
0:39:08.184,0:39:11.126
Messiah, Son of God, soon-coming King;
0:39:11.126,0:39:13.461
He's at the foundation, all right.
0:39:13.461,0:39:14.429
We know that we're
0:39:14.429,0:39:15.706
going to see some symbols,
0:39:15.706,0:39:16.829
so let's see if we can
0:39:16.829,0:39:18.327
unpack some of them.
0:39:18.327,0:39:19.488
(Daisy) I'll be reading
0:39:19.488,0:39:21.173
from the New Living Translation:
0:39:49.448,0:39:51.989
(Derek) There's an overarching principle,
0:39:51.989,0:39:55.200
and that is that these symbols...?
0:39:55.200,0:39:56.405
(Jason) Mean something?
0:39:56.405,0:39:58.506
(Derek) They mean something;[br]that's right.
0:39:58.506,0:40:00.058
It's not just kind of, you know,
0:40:00.058,0:40:01.261
"That's a strange story."
0:40:01.261,0:40:03.433
These symbols mean something,
0:40:03.433,0:40:05.671
and we might have guessed
0:40:05.671,0:40:11.548
that the beast is a power or a kingdom.
0:40:11.548,0:40:13.062
We might have guessed that,
0:40:13.062,0:40:15.015
but the text actually tells us.
0:40:15.015,0:40:18.034
We might have guessed that the horns
0:40:18.034,0:40:21.456
were also a symbol of power in some way,
0:40:21.456,0:40:22.806
but the text tells us
0:40:22.806,0:40:25.271
that there are 10 kings, right?
0:40:25.271,0:40:28.507
So, we'll find what we can[br]in the Scripture.
0:40:28.507,0:40:29.939
Now, remember I said
0:40:29.939,0:40:31.417
that Daniel and Revelation,
0:40:31.417,0:40:33.138
they're kind of sister books, right?
0:40:33.138,0:40:35.889
There's another key in Revelation,
0:40:35.889,0:40:39.688
chapter 17 and verse 15.
0:40:39.688,0:40:44.304
We've been talking about the sea.
0:40:44.304,0:40:46.366
Revelation, Rod, do you have that?
0:40:46.366,0:40:52.033
Chapter 17 of Revelation and verse 15.
0:40:52.033,0:40:53.197
(Rod) I'll be reading
0:40:53.197,0:40:54.574
from the King James Version:
0:41:05.887,0:41:07.392
(Derek) It's right there
0:41:07.392,0:41:08.959
because we've seen these animals
0:41:08.959,0:41:10.778
coming up out of the sea.
0:41:10.778,0:41:11.885
That would mean they're
0:41:11.885,0:41:13.482
coming up out of...?
0:41:13.482,0:41:14.980
(Team Member) Populated areas.
0:41:14.980,0:41:16.994
(Derek) Populated areas.
0:41:16.994,0:41:18.342
By the way, we're not doing
0:41:18.342,0:41:19.930
a series on Revelation right now,
0:41:19.930,0:41:22.013
but in Revelation, we'll see a beast
0:41:22.013,0:41:24.202
that comes up out of the earth.
0:41:24.202,0:41:25.465
So, what would that mean?
0:41:25.465,0:41:26.767
(Team Member) Unpopulated.
0:41:26.767,0:41:28.708
(Derek) That there weren't any people.
0:41:28.708,0:41:30.154
Well, that doesn't make sense.
0:41:30.154,0:41:31.330
How could a superpower
0:41:31.330,0:41:32.404
come up out of a place
0:41:32.404,0:41:33.700
where there are no people?
0:41:33.700,0:41:35.024
Well, if you study history,
0:41:35.024,0:41:36.388
you'll discover a superpower
0:41:36.388,0:41:38.066
that comes up in a place
0:41:38.066,0:41:40.084
where there were no people.
0:41:40.084,0:41:42.907
But we know, we've got another key, right?
0:41:42.907,0:41:44.782
Letting the Scripture interpret itself.
0:41:44.782,0:41:46.134
Beasts are kingdoms;
0:41:46.134,0:41:49.698
waters are peoples, nations.
0:41:49.698,0:41:51.757
Let's look at one other key.
0:41:51.757,0:41:53.632
And I've got two texts to look at here,
0:41:53.632,0:41:55.066
Numbers, chapter 14.
0:41:55.066,0:41:57.613
This one's important, especially when we
0:41:57.613,0:42:02.269
look at 490 days, or we look
0:42:02.269,0:42:07.022
at 1260 days, or 2,300 days.
0:42:07.022,0:42:08.666
If I'm just looking literally,
0:42:08.666,0:42:10.225
that's like somewhere
0:42:10.225,0:42:14.130
between three years to six-and-a-half[br]or something.
0:42:14.130,0:42:16.247
But let's look and see
0:42:16.247,0:42:18.219
in the writings of the prophets.
0:42:18.219,0:42:20.780
Numbers 14, Adison, would you
0:42:20.780,0:42:23.964
read verse 34 for us?
0:42:23.964,0:42:26.182
(Adison) Reading from the King James[br]Version:
0:42:39.997,0:42:43.507
(Derek) So there's kind of a formula,[br]I guess, right?
0:42:43.507,0:42:46.095
One day equals a year.
0:42:46.095,0:42:47.570
Now, that's just one text,
0:42:47.570,0:42:49.083
so let's look at another one
0:42:49.083,0:42:51.527
in Ezekiel, chapter 4.
0:42:51.527,0:42:52.766
Michael, maybe if you can
0:42:52.766,0:42:54.285
find Ezekiel for us,
0:42:54.285,0:42:58.121
chapter 4, verses 5 and 6.
0:42:58.121,0:42:59.422
Again, these are prophets.
0:42:59.422,0:43:00.399
I'm not reading this
0:43:00.399,0:43:02.163
from some random writing
0:43:02.163,0:43:03.541
in China or somewhere.
0:43:03.541,0:43:05.164
This is in the Bible,
0:43:05.164,0:43:08.400
and there's a principle here,[br]to interpret.
0:43:08.400,0:43:10.802
Ezekiel 4, verses 5 and 6.
0:43:10.802,0:43:13.075
(Michael) The New King James Version says:
0:43:32.611,0:43:34.073
(Derek) You say, "I wish they
0:43:34.073,0:43:35.558
weren't rebellious for so long;
0:43:35.558,0:43:36.490
that's a long time
0:43:36.490,0:43:38.260
to lie on one side," right?
0:43:38.260,0:43:40.185
One day for a year is a principle.
0:43:40.185,0:43:43.098
Now, if you apply that
0:43:43.098,0:43:45.926
to some of these time prophecies,
0:43:45.926,0:43:48.562
1260 days, or in Revelation
0:43:48.562,0:43:52.681
it's called, what, 42 months,
0:43:52.681,0:43:54.977
how does that affect - or 1200,
0:43:54.977,0:43:58.749
or, excuse me, 2,300 days -
0:43:58.749,0:44:00.364
how would that affect you
0:44:00.364,0:44:02.075
if you were seeing revelations
0:44:02.075,0:44:04.848
that involve that kind of time?
0:44:04.848,0:44:07.639
Well, let's look in Daniel, chapter 8.
0:44:07.639,0:44:09.279
Elise, maybe you could read for us
0:44:09.279,0:44:13.259
in Daniel 8 and verse 27.
0:44:13.259,0:44:14.772
By the way, did you know Daniel
0:44:14.772,0:44:15.842
is one of the prophets
0:44:15.842,0:44:17.595
that there's nothing recorded
0:44:17.595,0:44:19.801
where he turned away from God?
0:44:19.801,0:44:21.639
He always - I love this book -
0:44:21.639,0:44:23.768
he always purposed in his heart
0:44:23.768,0:44:25.102
that he would honor God.
0:44:25.102,0:44:27.511
He was a young man of integrity,
0:44:27.511,0:44:28.931
and that's a challenge to us,
0:44:28.931,0:44:30.052
young women, young men,
0:44:30.052,0:44:32.152
to be people of integrity.
0:44:32.152,0:44:33.816
He'd probably be the first to say,
0:44:33.816,0:44:36.398
"I wasn't perfect; only God is perfect,"
0:44:36.398,0:44:38.152
but a great man of God.
0:44:38.152,0:44:40.105
But when he had this revelation,
0:44:40.105,0:44:43.127
this was one of the time prophecies,
0:44:43.127,0:44:44.888
how did he react, Elise,
0:44:44.888,0:44:47.886
in chapter 8, verse 27?
0:44:59.678,0:45:01.230
(Derek) That's strong language.
0:45:01.230,0:45:04.700
Why was he appalled?
0:45:04.700,0:45:08.040
Was it because he saw bad things?
0:45:08.040,0:45:08.981
Yes, partly, right?
0:45:08.981,0:45:10.690
I mean, there's this power
0:45:10.690,0:45:12.002
fighting against the saints
0:45:12.002,0:45:14.208
of the Most High God. Gary?
0:45:14.208,0:45:16.646
(Gary) Just to go along with that thought,
0:45:16.646,0:45:21.521
if he understood, let's say,[br]these time keys,
0:45:21.521,0:45:23.383
then that means that the saints of God
0:45:23.383,0:45:27.750
would be under the power of this kingdom
0:45:27.750,0:45:29.619
for such a long amount of time.
0:45:29.619,0:45:33.925
And that probably made him feel appalled.
0:45:33.925,0:45:35.641
(Derek) Yeah, you know, just to get
0:45:35.641,0:45:38.433
my mind around that length of time, right,
0:45:38.433,0:45:41.009
could make me feel sick.
0:45:41.009,0:45:42.603
Now, Tricia Lee, you said earlier
0:45:42.603,0:45:44.994
that sometimes angels come to help.
0:45:44.994,0:45:47.246
And right after Daniel 8
0:45:47.246,0:45:48.700
you've got Daniel 9,
0:45:48.700,0:45:50.861
and who shows up to help him,[br]do you remember?
0:45:50.861,0:45:51.813
(Stephanie) Gabriel.
0:45:51.813,0:45:53.288
(Derek) The angel Gabriel says,
0:45:53.288,0:45:54.856
"By the way, you've been praying,
0:45:54.856,0:45:56.851
and I'm here to help," right?
0:45:56.851,0:45:59.239
Doesn't change the prophecy,
0:45:59.239,0:46:03.527
but at least gives him, what?
0:46:03.527,0:46:05.483
What does it do for him?
0:46:05.483,0:46:07.092
It doesn't change the prophecy.
0:46:07.092,0:46:08.440
(Team Member) Understanding.
0:46:08.440,0:46:10.362
(Derek) It gives him some understanding
0:46:10.362,0:46:11.803
so that he's like, "Okay,
0:46:11.803,0:46:15.583
that's what God wanted to reveal to me."
0:46:15.583,0:46:17.786
So, I want to ask a broad question.
0:46:17.786,0:46:19.943
Now, we're going to go through this book.
0:46:19.943,0:46:22.188
I've studied this book several times,
0:46:22.188,0:46:24.336
and I'm studying it again now.
0:46:24.336,0:46:26.946
I don't understand everything[br]in this book,
0:46:26.946,0:46:29.305
so this is a disclaimer, right?
0:46:29.305,0:46:32.271
I don't understand everything[br]in this book,
0:46:32.271,0:46:34.996
so what do we do when we're coming
0:46:34.996,0:46:37.119
to study something with the recognition
0:46:37.119,0:46:38.940
that we may not fully understand it?
0:46:38.940,0:46:41.631
What are some things we could do?
0:46:41.631,0:46:43.377
Maybe some promises in the Bible
0:46:43.377,0:46:45.191
or something that comes to your mind,
0:46:45.191,0:46:46.840
just a principle, Charity?
0:46:46.840,0:46:48.782
Like, "I don't understand all of this!"
0:46:48.782,0:46:50.074
(Charity) The Bible says
0:46:50.074,0:46:52.202
you can pray and ask for wisdom from God.
0:46:52.202,0:46:53.736
(Derek) Yes, that's found
0:46:53.736,0:46:55.717
in the book of James, right,
0:46:55.717,0:46:58.741
chapter 1, verse 5, "If anyone..."?
0:46:58.741,0:47:00.402
(Derek, Team) "...lacks wisdom..."
0:47:00.402,0:47:01.311
(Derek) Do what?
0:47:01.311,0:47:02.719
(Team) "Let him ask of God."
0:47:02.719,0:47:04.108
(Derek) That's prayer, right?
0:47:04.108,0:47:05.418
I ask God, and do you know
0:47:05.418,0:47:06.302
what it says next?
0:47:06.302,0:47:08.855
Some of you apparently have been[br]reading your Bibles.
0:47:08.855,0:47:10.021
"Who gives to all," how?
0:47:10.021,0:47:10.841
(Team) Liberally.
0:47:10.841,0:47:12.207
(Derek) What does that mean?
0:47:12.207,0:47:14.804
Generously, right, "and without..."?
0:47:14.804,0:47:15.907
(Team) Reproach.
0:47:15.907,0:47:17.957
(Derek) What does that mean?
0:47:17.957,0:47:21.944
Without condemnation, like,
0:47:21.944,0:47:24.466
[deep voice] "Asking for wisdom again?"
0:47:24.466,0:47:26.255
Why is He happy to give us wisdom?
0:47:26.255,0:47:27.407
Why was Gabriel happy
0:47:27.407,0:47:29.590
to come and give understanding to Daniel?
0:47:29.590,0:47:31.833
(Daisy) Because he wants us[br]to understand.
0:47:31.833,0:47:33.382
(Derek) That's why it was given,
0:47:33.382,0:47:35.100
that we could understand it, right?
0:47:35.100,0:47:36.629
His Word He desires to be a...?
0:47:36.629,0:47:37.501
(Team) Lamp.
0:47:37.501,0:47:39.223
(Derek) A lamp to our feet and a...?
0:47:39.223,0:47:39.995
(Team) Light.
0:47:39.995,0:47:41.268
(Derek) Light to our path.
0:47:41.268,0:47:42.573
So it's not that He doesn't
0:47:42.573,0:47:43.689
want us to understand.
0:47:43.689,0:47:45.729
Thank you, Charity; one place we can start
0:47:45.729,0:47:48.057
is to pray and ask for wisdom.
0:47:48.057,0:47:49.332
Okay, anybody else?
0:47:49.332,0:47:50.802
What can I do if I don't
0:47:50.802,0:47:53.656
fully understand everything? Elise?
0:47:53.656,0:47:56.597
(Elise) In Daniel 1, after Daniel
0:47:56.597,0:47:59.580
and his friends had chosen to be healthy,
0:47:59.580,0:48:02.057
it said that they were 10 times brighter.
0:48:02.057,0:48:04.879
And so, that may be part of why God
0:48:04.879,0:48:07.219
continued to teach and give him insight,
0:48:07.219,0:48:09.085
was because he was following the light
0:48:09.085,0:48:10.058
that he already had.
0:48:10.058,0:48:11.661
(Derek) Ah, so you would say,
0:48:11.661,0:48:15.172
"If I don't understand everything,
0:48:15.172,0:48:21.766
remove any obstacle and follow[br]the truth that...?
0:48:21.766,0:48:23.700
You know. Does that make sense?
0:48:23.700,0:48:24.438
(Team) Yes.
0:48:24.438,0:48:25.935
(Derek) People are like, "Well,
0:48:25.935,0:48:27.759
when I finally know it all, maybe I'll
0:48:27.759,0:48:29.290
give my heart to Jesus," no, no.
0:48:29.290,0:48:30.569
Follow the light you know.
0:48:30.569,0:48:31.791
Is that a good principle?
0:48:31.791,0:48:32.546
(Team) Yes.
0:48:32.546,0:48:34.510
(Derek) Thank you. And that actually has
0:48:34.510,0:48:35.861
very practical implications
0:48:35.861,0:48:39.487
for even how I care for my body, right?
0:48:39.487,0:48:41.378
Another insight, Travis?
0:48:41.378,0:48:43.977
(Travis) I think that when you[br]study the Bible,
0:48:43.977,0:48:45.435
I think God doesn't give you
0:48:45.435,0:48:46.502
everything right away.
0:48:46.502,0:48:48.222
You just keep coming back for more,
0:48:48.222,0:48:49.979
and I think the best thing we can do
0:48:49.979,0:48:51.751
is just be patient and keep studying.
0:48:51.751,0:48:54.865
And I know as I've been studying[br]over the years,
0:48:54.865,0:48:57.166
every day new light bulbs keep going off,
0:48:57.166,0:48:58.528
and God just keeps revealing
0:48:58.528,0:49:00.173
more and more and more.
0:49:00.173,0:49:01.570
(Derek) Isn't there somewhere
0:49:01.570,0:49:03.200
Jesus says, "There are many things
0:49:03.200,0:49:04.304
I would share with you,
0:49:04.304,0:49:05.775
but you cannot bear them now"?
0:49:05.775,0:49:06.989
I mean, what would happen
0:49:06.989,0:49:08.533
if He shared everything with us?
0:49:08.533,0:49:11.058
(Team Members) Overwhelming; I can faint.
0:49:11.058,0:49:12.454
(Derek) You might faint.
0:49:12.454,0:49:14.192
You might feel faint or sick, right,
0:49:14.192,0:49:16.120
and that wasn't even everything, right?
0:49:16.120,0:49:20.052
So be patient, keep studying.
0:49:20.052,0:49:21.991
There's a text I'd like someone to read
0:49:21.991,0:49:23.778
because it's one I really appreciate.
0:49:23.778,0:49:24.759
Stephanie, maybe you
0:49:24.759,0:49:26.269
could read from Jeremiah 33.
0:49:26.269,0:49:27.344
You know my wife likes
0:49:27.344,0:49:29.259
to write Scripture songs, right?
0:49:29.259,0:49:31.205
And she does that to help
0:49:31.205,0:49:33.205
her husband memorize the Bible
0:49:33.205,0:49:34.468
as well as our little ones
0:49:34.468,0:49:36.098
when they were growing up.
0:49:36.098,0:49:38.201
But this is one of the songs
0:49:38.201,0:49:41.480
that she has, in Jeremiah 33 and verse 3.
0:49:41.480,0:49:42.813
Incredible promise,
0:49:42.813,0:49:45.717
and if you're part of this journey
0:49:45.717,0:49:47.231
in the book of Daniel, saying,
0:49:47.231,0:49:48.890
"I don't get it all," well, we can
0:49:48.890,0:49:50.408
ask for wisdom and we can pray.
0:49:50.408,0:49:51.992
But we could claim this promise
0:49:51.992,0:49:54.159
in Jeremiah 33 and verse 3.
0:49:54.159,0:49:55.632
(Stephanie) And I'll be reading
0:49:55.632,0:49:57.057
from the King James Version:
0:50:05.679,0:50:06.598
(Derek) So, that's
0:50:06.598,0:50:08.146
kind of the prayer thing, right?
0:50:08.146,0:50:09.923
And, by the way, I had another text
0:50:09.923,0:50:11.462
in 2 Timothy 2 which says,
0:50:11.462,0:50:12.733
"Study," or be diligent,
0:50:12.733,0:50:14.243
"to show yourself approved,"
0:50:14.243,0:50:16.310
which is back to keep on studying, right,
0:50:16.310,0:50:19.329
"a worker who doesn't need to be ashamed,
0:50:19.329,0:50:24.267
rightly dividing," so keep on studying,[br]keep on praying.
0:50:24.267,0:50:25.489
Realize that God is not
0:50:25.489,0:50:27.094
hiding truth from us.
0:50:27.094,0:50:28.335
He's wanting, actually,
0:50:28.335,0:50:29.448
to reveal truth to us.
0:50:29.448,0:50:30.636
Well, we need to move on
0:50:30.636,0:50:31.601
to our last section,
0:50:31.601,0:50:32.786
which is the relevance
0:50:32.786,0:50:35.868
of the book of Daniel for our lives today.
0:50:35.868,0:50:39.506
Why is it important, anyone,
0:50:39.506,0:50:41.015
for us to study Daniel,
0:50:41.015,0:50:42.978
and we might add Revelation because these
0:50:42.978,0:50:45.625
are the two apocalyptic books, right,
0:50:45.625,0:50:47.453
these apocalyptic prophecies
0:50:47.453,0:50:49.167
pointing to the End Time.
0:50:49.167,0:50:51.718
Why is it important to study them today?
0:50:51.718,0:50:54.067
What do you think? Yes, Tricia Lee.
0:50:54.067,0:50:56.170
(Tricia Lee) It wasn't[br]just a history lesson
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for a history lesson's sake.
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It was the history of the world
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from the lens and perspective
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of what's happening to God's people.
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And I think that was important[br]for Daniel then,
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but certainly for us now.
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We don't have national borders
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that define where God's people live;
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we're all over the world.
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And so, being able to look[br]at these prophecies
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and see where we fit in
0:51:15.134,0:51:16.307
is very important for us
0:51:16.307,0:51:18.205
to understand how things will unfold
0:51:18.205,0:51:19.904
in these particular days
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when God's people are scattered all over
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all around the world.
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(Derek) So Paul said in 2 Timothy 3,
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I think it begins in verse 16,
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"All Scripture," that would include
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the apocalyptic prophecies,
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"All Scripture is given by..."?
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(Derek, Team) "...inspiration of God."
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(Derek) We read, holy men
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and women of God, right?
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"...by inspiration of God and is..."?
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(Derek, Team) "...profitable..."
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(Derek) For? A variety of things, right,
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"...profitable for...?"
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(Team) Doctrine.
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(Derek) "Doctrine," what does that mean?
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That means understanding the truth[br]that God wants to reveal.
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"For doctrine, for..."?
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Reproof, which means...?
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"You're out of line."
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So, rather than say,
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"Well, let's interpret this some other way
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and say it all happened...," no, no.
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If we're being reproved,
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well, what's the next thing, "for...?
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"Correction," right, which means
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how to change, "and for..."?
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(Derek, Team) "Instruction[br]in righteousness."
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(Derek) So, when I believe that...
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You say, "Well, this is relevant[br]for us today,"
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but you say, "Some of them[br]are just stories.
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Why are the stories...?
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Are they just stories?"
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Or do the stories even have,
0:52:24.360,0:52:26.086
Gary, do they have relevance, too,
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for us in the End Time?
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(Gary) I strongly believe that they do.
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I mean, Daniel's name, "God is my Judge,"
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and we're living in the Laodicean portion[br]of Earth's history,
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a people under judgment...
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(Derek) You're using more prophecy
0:52:42.401,0:52:43.538
here in Revelation...
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(Gary) In Revelation.
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(Derek) ...with the church of Laodicea.
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So, the End time?
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(Gary) Yeah, in the End Time,[br]which is now,
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we are going to have to face
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the same type of decisions
0:52:53.640,0:52:55.168
Daniel and his friends faced.
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Do I worship God or do I
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worship something else?
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(Derek) So, in Romans,
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chapter 15 and verse 4, it says,
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"These things were written for our..."?
0:53:05.597,0:53:07.055
"...admonition," right?
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You may want to write Romans 15:4 down.
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But I've got to go to Daniel, chapter 12,
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because there's one last thought
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in the few minutes left.
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Elise, could you read Daniel 12 for us,
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beginning with verse 1,
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because this is where Michael stands up,
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and it talks about a book.
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And I want to conclude
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our introductory study on this series
0:53:26.464,0:53:29.640
to ask how do I get my name in the book,
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because that is a really[br]important question.
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So, how does your Bible read,[br]Daniel 12:1-4?
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(Derek) So this book, is it[br]an earthly book
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or is it a heavenly book?
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It's not a book in Babylon, right?
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It's not a book in Jerusalem.
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It's a heavenly book.
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Moses talks about that
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when he says, "God, if You
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can't save my people,
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blot my name out of Your book."
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It's not their book; it's Your book.
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In fact, in Revelation 13,
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it talks about a judgment of all of those
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whose names are not written,
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and it describes this book[br]as the Lamb's...?
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(Derek, Team) Book of Life.
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(Derek) Ah, so, see
0:54:55.583,0:54:57.520
how Daniel and Revelation connect?
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So here's the most important question
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of our hour of study,
0:55:01.757,0:55:03.107
because this is all
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about the history of the earth
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and the deliverance of God's people[br]and judgment, right,
0:55:08.415,0:55:10.385
which is good news for the saints, right,
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because it's in favor of the saints.
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How do I make sure my name
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is in the book, the Lamb's Book of Life?
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How does my name get written there?[br]Yes, Travis?
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(Travis) Follow the Lamb wherever He goes.
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(Derek) Follow the Lamb,
0:55:24.732,0:55:26.027
now that's kind of imagery,
0:55:26.027,0:55:29.589
but be more specific for me, please;[br]help me, someone.
0:55:29.589,0:55:30.881
Rod, how do I get my name
0:55:30.881,0:55:31.893
written in the book?
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(Rod) I think we need to serve the Lord
0:55:33.912,0:55:36.220
in the same way that Jesus[br]was on this earth.
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You know, ministering and taking care
0:55:37.989,0:55:39.742
of sick people, widows.
0:55:39.742,0:55:41.096
I think we need to do that.
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(Derek) Okay, and I think
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that that is an outcome
0:55:43.494,0:55:45.194
of that living connection.
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But, Stephanie, how do I get[br]my name in the book?
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(Stephanie) Commit your life to Jesus,
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accept what He's done for you.
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(Derek) "Jesus, save me.
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Write my name in Your book."
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Do I still have work to do?
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(Team) Yes.
0:55:59.058,0:56:00.581
(Derek) Do I still have growth
0:56:00.581,0:56:01.786
to happen in my life?
0:56:01.786,0:56:02.529
(Team) Yes.
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(Derek) Absolutely, but, "Write my name[br]in Your book; save me."
0:56:05.551,0:56:07.521
"Everyone," Romans 10:13,
0:56:07.521,0:56:09.972
"who calls on the name of the Lord..."
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(Team) "...will be saved."
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(Derek) Now, I don't want to get[br]into a big discussion,
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but could I at some point,
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after my name's been written in the book,
0:56:17.132,0:56:19.365
say, "God, I don't want You[br]to save me anymore;
0:56:19.365,0:56:21.579
take my name out of the book,"[br]could I do that?
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(Team) Yes.
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(Derek) I have a freedom of choice, right?
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But if I choose and say,
0:56:25.901,0:56:28.552
"God, write my name; Jesus, save me,"
0:56:28.552,0:56:30.000
and it's going to be affecting
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the way I live from now on, isn't it...
0:56:32.309,0:56:34.014
I'll be praying for wisdom;
0:56:34.014,0:56:36.953
I'm going to be praying for might,
0:56:36.953,0:56:38.688
back to the song, wisdom and might
0:56:38.688,0:56:41.538
to live a life that will honor God.
0:56:41.538,0:56:43.420
But my name's been written in the book,
0:56:43.420,0:56:45.756
and I don't know when that[br]happened for you,
0:56:45.756,0:56:46.643
and I want to talk
0:56:46.643,0:56:48.570
to our Hope Sabbath School family,
0:56:48.570,0:56:50.219
I don't know when that happened.
0:56:50.219,0:56:51.392
You say, "Pastor Derek,
0:56:51.392,0:56:55.230
I don't think I've ever asked[br]Jesus to save me.
0:56:55.230,0:56:57.869
I grew up in a Christian family, but..."
0:56:57.869,0:56:59.173
But I want to challenge you
0:56:59.173,0:57:01.092
as I challenge each of us,
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"Lord, write my name in the book."
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And if you said that, as many of us have,
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just every day say, "Thank You, God,"[br]get excited.
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"You wrote my name in Your book,
0:57:10.127,0:57:11.310
the Lamb's Book of Life,
0:57:11.310,0:57:13.023
and I want to live to honor You."
0:57:13.023,0:57:14.967
And this book of Daniel wlll
0:57:14.967,0:57:16.995
not only tell us what's going to happen
0:57:16.995,0:57:20.394
but how to live as we prepare
0:57:20.394,0:57:21.922
for the glorious return
0:57:21.922,0:57:23.919
of the King of kings and Lord of lords.
0:57:23.919,0:57:25.461
Let's pray; Father in Heaven,
0:57:25.461,0:57:26.535
thank You so much
0:57:26.535,0:57:27.797
as we begin this journey
0:57:27.797,0:57:29.593
studying the book of Daniel.
0:57:29.593,0:57:32.692
And I pray in the name of Jesus
0:57:32.692,0:57:34.515
that You would accept us.
0:57:34.515,0:57:37.677
Say, "Jesus, save us; let us be part
0:57:37.677,0:57:39.861
of the redeemed of all ages."
0:57:39.861,0:57:42.122
And guide us as we live and as we grow
0:57:42.122,0:57:44.469
and as we learn how to walk
0:57:44.469,0:57:46.332
in these last days of Earth's history.
0:57:46.332,0:57:48.582
In the name of Jesus. Amen.
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(Team) Amen.
0:57:49.713,0:57:51.172
(Derek) Thanks for joining us
0:57:51.172,0:57:52.327
for Hope Sabbath School.
0:57:52.327,0:57:53.680
This is an amazing journey,
0:57:53.680,0:57:54.717
the book of Daniel.
0:57:54.717,0:57:56.523
We are going to discover that God
0:57:56.523,0:57:57.821
will show us how to live,
0:57:57.821,0:58:00.915
that we can be lights to the world.
0:58:00.915,0:58:02.991
Go out and point people to Jesus.
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