WEBVTT 00:00:00.472 --> 00:00:04.930 We often hear these days that the immigration system is broken. 00:00:04.954 --> 00:00:09.600 I want to make the case today that our immigration conversation is broken 00:00:09.624 --> 00:00:13.968 and to suggest some ways that, together, we might build a better one. 00:00:14.735 --> 00:00:17.634 In order to do that, I'm going to propose some new questions 00:00:17.658 --> 00:00:19.022 about immigration, 00:00:19.046 --> 00:00:20.252 the United States 00:00:20.276 --> 00:00:21.599 and the world, 00:00:21.623 --> 00:00:26.669 questions that might move the borders of the immigration debate. NOTE Paragraph 00:00:27.495 --> 00:00:31.655 I'm not going to begin with the feverish argument that we're currently having, 00:00:31.679 --> 00:00:36.189 even as the lives and well-being of immigrants are being put at risk 00:00:36.213 --> 00:00:38.969 at the US border and far beyond it. 00:00:39.567 --> 00:00:42.201 Instead, I'm going to begin with me in graduate school 00:00:42.225 --> 00:00:45.905 in New Jersey in the mid-1990s, earnestly studying US history, 00:00:45.929 --> 00:00:49.344 which is what I currently teach as a professor at Vanderbilt University 00:00:49.368 --> 00:00:51.120 in Nashville, Tennessee. 00:00:51.602 --> 00:00:53.088 And when I wasn't studying, 00:00:53.112 --> 00:00:55.356 sometimes to avoid writing my dissertation, 00:00:55.380 --> 00:00:58.203 my friends and I would go into town 00:00:58.227 --> 00:01:03.064 to hand out neon-colored flyers, protesting legislation 00:01:03.088 --> 00:01:06.533 that was threatening to take away immigrants' rights. NOTE Paragraph 00:01:07.481 --> 00:01:10.289 Our flyers were sincere, they were well-meaning, 00:01:10.313 --> 00:01:12.537 they were factually accurate ... 00:01:12.561 --> 00:01:15.156 But I realize now, they were also kind of a problem. 00:01:15.642 --> 00:01:16.815 Here's what they said: 00:01:16.839 --> 00:01:21.342 "Don't take away immigrant rights to public education, 00:01:21.366 --> 00:01:24.090 to medical services, to the social safety net. 00:01:24.114 --> 00:01:25.661 They work hard. 00:01:25.685 --> 00:01:27.581 They pay taxes. 00:01:27.605 --> 00:01:29.460 They're law-abiding. 00:01:29.484 --> 00:01:32.451 They use social services less than Americans do. 00:01:33.054 --> 00:01:35.111 They're eager to learn English, 00:01:35.135 --> 00:01:39.539 and their children serve in the US military all over the world." 00:01:40.419 --> 00:01:43.918 Now, these are, of course, arguments that we hear every day. 00:01:43.942 --> 00:01:47.420 Immigrants and their advocates use them 00:01:47.444 --> 00:01:51.174 as they confront those who would deny immigrants their rights 00:01:51.198 --> 00:01:53.721 or even exclude them from society. 00:01:54.453 --> 00:01:57.098 And up to a certain point, it makes perfect sense 00:01:57.122 --> 00:02:01.944 that these would be the kinds of claims that immigrants' defenders would turn to. NOTE Paragraph 00:02:02.595 --> 00:02:06.424 But in the long term, and maybe even in the short term, 00:02:06.448 --> 00:02:09.299 I think these arguments can be counterproductive. 00:02:09.996 --> 00:02:11.501 Why? 00:02:11.525 --> 00:02:13.613 Because it's always an uphill battle 00:02:13.637 --> 00:02:16.888 to defend yourself on your opponent's terrain. 00:02:17.669 --> 00:02:21.633 And, unwittingly, the handouts my friends and I were handing out 00:02:21.657 --> 00:02:25.051 and the versions of these arguments that we hear today 00:02:25.075 --> 00:02:27.844 were actually playing the anti-immigrants game. 00:02:28.701 --> 00:02:31.437 We were playing that game in part by envisioning 00:02:31.461 --> 00:02:33.690 that immigrants were outsiders, 00:02:33.714 --> 00:02:36.855 rather than, as I'm hoping to suggest in a few minutes, 00:02:36.879 --> 00:02:40.930 people that are already, in important ways, on the inside. 00:02:42.303 --> 00:02:45.840 It's those who are hostile to immigrants, the nativists, 00:02:45.864 --> 00:02:48.658 who have succeeded in framing the immigration debate 00:02:48.682 --> 00:02:50.889 around three main questions. NOTE Paragraph 00:02:51.588 --> 00:02:56.657 First, there's the question of whether immigrants can be useful tools. 00:02:57.235 --> 00:03:00.752 How can we use immigrants? 00:03:00.776 --> 00:03:04.799 Will they make us richer and stronger? 00:03:05.751 --> 00:03:08.667 The nativist answer to this question is no, 00:03:08.691 --> 00:03:11.318 immigrants have little or nothing to offer. NOTE Paragraph 00:03:12.993 --> 00:03:17.201 The second questions is whether immigrants are others. 00:03:18.201 --> 00:03:21.586 Can immigrants become more like us? 00:03:22.705 --> 00:03:25.371 Are they capable of becoming more like us? 00:03:25.395 --> 00:03:27.028 Are they capable of assimilating? 00:03:27.052 --> 00:03:28.795 Are they willing to assimilate? 00:03:29.477 --> 00:03:31.812 Here, again, the nativist answer is no, 00:03:31.836 --> 00:03:36.220 immigrants are permanently different from us and inferior to us. NOTE Paragraph 00:03:37.157 --> 00:03:41.784 And the third question is whether immigrants are parasites. 00:03:42.745 --> 00:03:46.359 Are they dangerous to us? And will they drain our resources? 00:03:47.177 --> 00:03:50.757 Here, the nativist answer is yes and yes, 00:03:50.781 --> 00:03:54.126 immigrants pose a threat and they sap our wealth. 00:03:55.761 --> 00:03:59.846 I would suggest that these three questions and the nativist animus behind them 00:03:59.870 --> 00:04:03.960 have succeeded in framing the larger contours of the immigration debate. 00:04:03.984 --> 00:04:08.835 These questions are anti-immigrant and nativist at their core, 00:04:08.859 --> 00:04:14.753 built around a kind of hierarchical division of insiders and outsiders, 00:04:14.777 --> 00:04:16.340 us and them, 00:04:16.364 --> 00:04:19.014 in which only we matter, 00:04:19.038 --> 00:04:20.294 and they don't. 00:04:21.201 --> 00:04:24.617 And what gives these questions traction and power 00:04:24.641 --> 00:04:26.805 beyond the circle of committed nativists 00:04:26.829 --> 00:04:31.476 is the way they tap into an everyday, seemingly harmless sense 00:04:31.500 --> 00:04:33.227 of national belonging 00:04:33.251 --> 00:04:35.916 and activate it, heighten it 00:04:35.940 --> 00:04:37.626 and inflame it. 00:04:38.740 --> 00:04:43.181 Nativists commit themselves to making stark distinctions 00:04:43.205 --> 00:04:45.719 between insiders and outsiders. 00:04:45.743 --> 00:04:50.180 But the distinction itself is at the heart of the way nations define themselves. 00:04:50.658 --> 00:04:54.416 The fissures between inside and outside, 00:04:54.440 --> 00:04:59.122 which often run deepest along lines of race and religion, 00:04:59.146 --> 00:05:02.458 are always there to be deepened and exploited. 00:05:03.370 --> 00:05:07.493 And that potentially gives nativist approaches resonance 00:05:07.517 --> 00:05:11.352 far beyond those who consider themselves anti-immigrant, 00:05:11.376 --> 00:05:15.550 and remarkably, even among some who consider themselves pro-immigrant. 00:05:16.325 --> 00:05:20.731 So, for example, when immigrants act allies 00:05:20.755 --> 00:05:23.957 answer these questions the nativists are posing, 00:05:23.981 --> 00:05:25.318 they take them seriously. 00:05:25.342 --> 00:05:28.497 They legitimate those questions and, to some extent, 00:05:28.521 --> 00:05:31.541 the anti-immigrant assumptions that are behind them. 00:05:32.414 --> 00:05:36.130 When we take these questions seriously without even knowing it, 00:05:36.154 --> 00:05:39.975 we're reinforcing the closed, exclusionary borders 00:05:39.999 --> 00:05:42.180 of the immigration conversation. NOTE Paragraph 00:05:43.458 --> 00:05:44.625 So how did we get here? 00:05:44.649 --> 00:05:48.932 How did these become the leading ways that we talk about immigration? 00:05:49.523 --> 00:05:50.952 Here, we need some backstory, 00:05:50.976 --> 00:05:53.308 which is where my history training comes in. 00:05:53.332 --> 00:05:59.538 During the first century of the US's status as an independent nation, 00:05:59.562 --> 00:06:03.274 it did very little to restrict immigration at the national level. 00:06:03.298 --> 00:06:05.823 In fact, many policymakers and employers worked hard 00:06:05.847 --> 00:06:08.362 to recruit immigrants 00:06:08.386 --> 00:06:10.008 to build up industry 00:06:10.032 --> 00:06:13.738 and to serve as settlers, to seize the continent. 00:06:14.948 --> 00:06:17.537 But after the Civil War, 00:06:17.561 --> 00:06:22.555 nativist voices rose in volume and in power. 00:06:23.371 --> 00:06:28.283 The Asian, Latin American, Caribbean and European immigrants 00:06:28.307 --> 00:06:31.081 who dug Americans' canals, 00:06:31.105 --> 00:06:32.904 cooked their dinners, 00:06:32.928 --> 00:06:34.620 fought their wars 00:06:34.644 --> 00:06:36.845 and put their children to bed at night 00:06:36.869 --> 00:06:40.428 were met with a new and intense xenophobia, 00:06:40.452 --> 00:06:44.015 which cast immigrants as permanent outsiders 00:06:44.039 --> 00:06:47.124 who should never be allowed to become insiders. 00:06:48.148 --> 00:06:50.865 By the mid-1920s, the nativists had won, 00:06:50.889 --> 00:06:52.611 erecting racist laws 00:06:52.635 --> 00:06:58.254 that closed out untold numbers of vulnerable immigrants and refugees. 00:06:59.158 --> 00:07:02.331 Immigrants and their allies did their best to fight back, 00:07:02.355 --> 00:07:04.829 but they found themselves on the defensive, 00:07:04.853 --> 00:07:08.070 caught in some ways in the nativists' frames. 00:07:08.775 --> 00:07:13.609 When nativists said that immigrants weren't useful, 00:07:13.633 --> 00:07:16.012 their allies said yes, they are. 00:07:16.932 --> 00:07:21.874 When nativists accused immigrants of being others, 00:07:21.898 --> 00:07:24.434 their allies promised that they would assimilate. 00:07:25.789 --> 00:07:31.819 When nativists charged that immigrants were dangerous parasites, 00:07:31.843 --> 00:07:34.951 their allies emphasized their loyalty, their obedience, 00:07:34.975 --> 00:07:37.439 their hard work and their thrift. 00:07:38.293 --> 00:07:41.746 Even as advocates welcomed immigrants, 00:07:41.770 --> 00:07:48.189 many still regarded immigrants as outsiders to be pitied, to be rescued, 00:07:48.213 --> 00:07:50.024 to be uplifted 00:07:50.048 --> 00:07:52.193 and to be tolerated, 00:07:52.217 --> 00:07:58.089 but never fully brought inside as equals in rights and respect. NOTE Paragraph 00:07:59.194 --> 00:08:05.890 After World War II, and especially from the mid-1960s until really recently, 00:08:05.914 --> 00:08:08.271 immigrants and their allies turned the tide, 00:08:08.295 --> 00:08:11.697 overthrowing mid-20th century restriction 00:08:11.721 --> 00:08:16.317 and winning instead a new system that prioritized family reunification, 00:08:16.341 --> 00:08:17.960 the admission of refugees 00:08:17.984 --> 00:08:20.838 and the admission of those with special skills. 00:08:21.642 --> 00:08:22.812 But even then, 00:08:22.836 --> 00:08:27.458 they didn't succeed in fundamentally changing the terms of the debate, 00:08:27.482 --> 00:08:29.697 and so that framework endured, 00:08:29.721 --> 00:08:34.628 ready to be taken up again in our own convulsive moment. NOTE Paragraph 00:08:35.744 --> 00:08:38.260 That conversation is broken. 00:08:38.793 --> 00:08:42.681 The old questions are harmful and divisive. NOTE Paragraph 00:08:43.486 --> 00:08:46.003 So how do we get from that conversation 00:08:46.027 --> 00:08:50.576 to one that's more likely to get us closer to a world that is fairer, 00:08:50.600 --> 00:08:52.171 that is more just, 00:08:52.195 --> 00:08:53.711 that's more secure? 00:08:55.036 --> 00:08:57.375 I want to suggest that what we have to do 00:08:57.399 --> 00:09:01.088 is one of the hardest things that any society can do: 00:09:01.112 --> 00:09:05.089 to redraw the boundaries of who counts, 00:09:05.113 --> 00:09:08.287 of whose life, whose rights 00:09:08.311 --> 00:09:10.808 and whose thriving matters. 00:09:11.485 --> 00:09:14.284 We need to redraw the boundaries. 00:09:14.308 --> 00:09:17.747 We need to redraw the borders of us. 00:09:19.242 --> 00:09:24.521 In order to do that, we need to first take on a worldview that's widely held 00:09:24.545 --> 00:09:27.056 but also seriously flawed. 00:09:27.080 --> 00:09:29.348 According to that worldview, 00:09:29.372 --> 00:09:33.079 there's the inside of the national boundaries, inside the nation, 00:09:33.103 --> 00:09:37.234 which is where we live, work and mind our own business. 00:09:37.766 --> 00:09:40.841 And then there's the outside; there's everywhere else. 00:09:41.635 --> 00:09:45.459 According to this worldview, when immigrants cross into the nation, 00:09:45.483 --> 00:09:48.449 they're moving from the outside to the inside, 00:09:48.473 --> 00:09:50.534 but they remain outsiders. 00:09:51.145 --> 00:09:55.313 Any power or resources they receive 00:09:55.337 --> 00:09:58.744 are gifts from us rather than rights. 00:09:59.371 --> 00:10:04.212 Now, it's not hard to see why this is such a commonly held worldview. 00:10:04.236 --> 00:10:08.018 It's reinforced in everyday ways that we talk and act and behave, 00:10:08.042 --> 00:10:11.397 down to the bordered maps that we hang up in our schoolrooms. 00:10:11.727 --> 00:10:15.355 The problem with this worldview is that it just doesn't correspond 00:10:15.379 --> 00:10:17.616 to the way the world actually works, 00:10:17.640 --> 00:10:20.092 and the way it has worked in the past. NOTE Paragraph 00:10:21.111 --> 00:10:25.796 Of course, American workers have built up wealth in society. 00:10:26.391 --> 00:10:27.583 But so have immigrants, 00:10:27.607 --> 00:10:31.461 particularly in parts of the American economy that are indispensable 00:10:31.485 --> 00:10:34.287 and where few Americans work, like agriculture. 00:10:34.840 --> 00:10:36.438 Since the nation's founding, 00:10:36.462 --> 00:10:40.741 Americans have been inside the American workforce. 00:10:41.660 --> 00:10:46.982 Of course, Americans have built up institutions in society 00:10:47.006 --> 00:10:48.731 that guarantee rights. 00:10:49.199 --> 00:10:50.675 But so have immigrants. 00:10:50.699 --> 00:10:54.071 They've been there during every major social movement, 00:10:54.095 --> 00:10:56.551 like civil rights and organized labor, 00:10:56.575 --> 00:10:59.870 that have fought to expand rights in society for everyone. 00:11:00.364 --> 00:11:03.812 So immigrants are already inside the struggle 00:11:03.836 --> 00:11:06.708 for rights, democracy and freedom. NOTE Paragraph 00:11:07.979 --> 00:11:12.101 And finally, Americans and other citizens of the Global North 00:11:12.125 --> 00:11:14.516 haven't minded their own business, 00:11:14.540 --> 00:11:16.882 and they haven't stayed within their own borders. 00:11:16.906 --> 00:11:19.059 They haven't respected other nations' borders. 00:11:19.083 --> 00:11:21.418 They've gone out into the world with their armies, 00:11:21.442 --> 00:11:23.898 they've taken over territories and resources, 00:11:23.922 --> 00:11:27.593 and they've extracted enormous profits from many of the countries 00:11:27.617 --> 00:11:29.405 that immigrants are from. 00:11:30.402 --> 00:11:36.075 In this sense, many immigrants are actually already inside American power. 00:11:37.268 --> 00:11:42.156 With this different map of inside and outside in mind, 00:11:42.180 --> 00:11:45.119 the question isn't whether receiving countries 00:11:45.143 --> 00:11:47.453 are going to let immigrants in. 00:11:47.899 --> 00:11:49.544 They're already in. 00:11:50.033 --> 00:11:52.948 The question is whether the United States and other countries 00:11:52.972 --> 00:11:57.030 are going to give immigrants access to the rights and resources 00:11:57.054 --> 00:12:01.009 that their work, their activism and their home countries 00:12:01.033 --> 00:12:04.815 have already played a fundamental role in creating. 00:12:06.468 --> 00:12:08.803 With this new map in mind, 00:12:08.827 --> 00:12:13.350 we can turn to a set of tough, new, urgently needed questions, 00:12:13.374 --> 00:12:17.093 radically different from the ones we've asked before -- 00:12:17.117 --> 00:12:21.424 questions that might change the borders of the immigration debate. 00:12:22.509 --> 00:12:26.774 Our three questions are about workers' rights, 00:12:26.798 --> 00:12:28.473 about responsibility 00:12:28.497 --> 00:12:30.266 and about equality. NOTE Paragraph 00:12:32.933 --> 00:12:35.818 First, we need to be asking about workers' rights. 00:12:36.405 --> 00:12:40.695 How do existing policies make it harder for immigrants to defend themselves 00:12:40.719 --> 00:12:42.591 and easier for them to be exploited, 00:12:42.615 --> 00:12:46.244 driving down wages, rights and protections for everyone? 00:12:46.742 --> 00:12:50.378 When immigrants are threatened with roundups, detention and deportations, 00:12:50.402 --> 00:12:52.514 their employers know that they can be abused, 00:12:52.538 --> 00:12:54.967 that they can be told that if they fight back, 00:12:54.991 --> 00:12:56.690 they'll be turned over to ICE. 00:12:57.460 --> 00:12:59.710 When employers know 00:12:59.734 --> 00:13:03.070 that they can terrorize an immigrant with his lack of papers, 00:13:04.161 --> 00:13:06.217 it makes that worker hyper-exploitable, 00:13:06.241 --> 00:13:09.093 and that has impacts not only for immigrant workers 00:13:09.117 --> 00:13:10.733 but for all workers. NOTE Paragraph 00:13:12.375 --> 00:13:15.361 Second, we need to ask questions about responsibility. 00:13:16.004 --> 00:13:19.930 What role have rich, powerful countries like the United States 00:13:19.954 --> 00:13:22.439 played in making it hard or impossible 00:13:22.463 --> 00:13:25.536 for immigrants to stay in their home countries? 00:13:26.331 --> 00:13:29.562 Picking up and moving from your country is difficult and dangerous. 00:13:29.586 --> 00:13:33.300 But many immigrants simply do not have the option of staying home 00:13:33.324 --> 00:13:35.507 if they want to survive. 00:13:35.531 --> 00:13:37.258 Wars, trade agreements 00:13:37.282 --> 00:13:39.932 and consumer habits rooted in the Global North 00:13:39.956 --> 00:13:44.554 play a major and devastating role here. 00:13:45.489 --> 00:13:48.540 What responsibilities do the United States, 00:13:48.564 --> 00:13:50.593 the European Union and China -- 00:13:50.617 --> 00:13:52.860 the world's leading carbon emitters -- 00:13:52.884 --> 00:13:57.615 have to the millions of people already uprooted by global warming? NOTE Paragraph 00:13:59.979 --> 00:14:02.996 And third, we need to ask questions about equality. 00:14:03.569 --> 00:14:07.617 Global inequality is a wrenching, intensifying problem. 00:14:08.037 --> 00:14:11.480 Income and wealth gaps are widening around the world. 00:14:11.504 --> 00:14:14.832 Increasingly, what determines whether you're rich or poor, 00:14:14.856 --> 00:14:16.171 more than anything else, 00:14:16.195 --> 00:14:18.033 is what country you're born in, 00:14:18.057 --> 00:14:21.109 which might seem great if you're from a prosperous country. 00:14:21.133 --> 00:14:25.696 But it actually means a profoundly unjust distribution 00:14:25.720 --> 00:14:30.773 of the chances for a long, healthy, fulfilling life. 00:14:31.464 --> 00:14:34.151 When immigrants send money or goods home to their family, 00:14:34.175 --> 00:14:37.324 it plays a significant role in narrowing these gaps, 00:14:37.348 --> 00:14:39.391 if a very incomplete one. 00:14:39.771 --> 00:14:42.806 It does more than all of the foreign aid programs 00:14:42.830 --> 00:14:44.813 in the world combined. NOTE Paragraph 00:14:46.778 --> 00:14:49.349 We began with the nativist questions, 00:14:49.373 --> 00:14:51.983 about immigrants as tools, 00:14:52.007 --> 00:14:53.618 as others 00:14:53.642 --> 00:14:54.983 and as parasites. 00:14:55.666 --> 00:14:59.156 Where might these new questions about worker rights, 00:14:59.180 --> 00:15:00.777 about responsibility 00:15:00.801 --> 00:15:02.355 and about equality 00:15:02.379 --> 00:15:03.602 take us? 00:15:04.400 --> 00:15:09.370 These questions reject pity, and they embrace justice. 00:15:09.888 --> 00:15:13.614 These questions reject the nativist and nationalist division 00:15:13.638 --> 00:15:15.059 of us versus them. 00:15:15.083 --> 00:15:18.275 They're going to help prepare us for problems that are coming 00:15:18.299 --> 00:15:22.517 and problems like global warming that are already upon us. NOTE Paragraph 00:15:23.493 --> 00:15:27.284 It's not going to be easy to turn away from the questions that we've been asking 00:15:27.308 --> 00:15:29.560 towards this new set of questions. 00:15:30.281 --> 00:15:31.699 It's no small challenge 00:15:31.723 --> 00:15:36.324 to take on and broaden the borders of us. 00:15:36.874 --> 00:15:40.902 It will take wit, inventiveness and courage. 00:15:41.228 --> 00:15:43.837 The old questions have been with us for a long time, 00:15:43.861 --> 00:15:46.577 and they're not going to give way on their own, 00:15:46.601 --> 00:15:48.661 and they're not going to give way overnight. 00:15:49.907 --> 00:15:52.077 And even if we manage to change the questions, 00:15:52.101 --> 00:15:54.043 the answers are going to be complicated, 00:15:54.067 --> 00:15:57.484 and they're going to require sacrifices and tradeoffs. 00:15:58.377 --> 00:16:01.656 And in an unequal world, we're always going to have to pay attention 00:16:01.680 --> 00:16:05.153 to the question of who has the power to join the conversation 00:16:05.177 --> 00:16:06.451 and who doesn't. 00:16:06.878 --> 00:16:09.315 But the borders of the immigration debate 00:16:09.339 --> 00:16:10.697 can be moved. 00:16:11.098 --> 00:16:13.630 It's up to all of us to move them. NOTE Paragraph 00:16:14.542 --> 00:16:15.750 Thank you. NOTE Paragraph 00:16:15.774 --> 00:16:18.698 (Applause)