1 00:00:00,751 --> 00:00:05,232 We often hear these days that the immigration system is broken. 2 00:00:05,232 --> 00:00:09,823 I want to make the case today that our immigration conversation is broken 3 00:00:09,823 --> 00:00:14,718 and to suggest some ways that together we might build a better one. 4 00:00:14,974 --> 00:00:18,450 In order to do that, I'm going to propose some new questions 5 00:00:18,450 --> 00:00:19,640 about immigration, 6 00:00:19,640 --> 00:00:21,925 the United States and the world, 7 00:00:21,925 --> 00:00:25,909 questions that might move the borders of the immigration debate. 8 00:00:25,909 --> 00:00:31,782 I'm not going to begin with the feverish argument that we're currently having, 9 00:00:31,782 --> 00:00:36,391 even as the lives and wellbeing of immigrants are being put at risk 10 00:00:36,391 --> 00:00:39,806 at the US borders and far beyond it. 11 00:00:39,806 --> 00:00:43,247 Instead I'm going to begin with me in graduate school 12 00:00:43,247 --> 00:00:46,199 in New Jersey in the mid-1990s earnestly studying US history, 13 00:00:46,199 --> 00:00:48,055 which is what I currently teach as a professor 14 00:00:48,055 --> 00:00:51,007 at Vanderbilt University in Nashville, Tennessee. 15 00:00:51,674 --> 00:00:53,295 And when I wasn't studying, 16 00:00:53,295 --> 00:00:55,562 sometimes to avoid writing my dissertation, 17 00:00:55,562 --> 00:00:58,448 my friends and I would go into town 18 00:00:58,448 --> 00:01:01,199 to hand out neon-colored flyers 19 00:01:01,199 --> 00:01:03,088 protesting legislation 20 00:01:03,088 --> 00:01:07,088 that was threatening to take away immigrants' rights. 21 00:01:07,545 --> 00:01:10,622 Our flyers were sincere, they were well-meaning, 22 00:01:10,622 --> 00:01:12,665 they were factually accurate, 23 00:01:12,665 --> 00:01:15,556 but I realize now they were also kind of a problem. 24 00:01:15,793 --> 00:01:16,926 Here's what they said: 25 00:01:16,926 --> 00:01:19,948 "Don't take away immigrant rights to public education, 26 00:01:19,948 --> 00:01:24,155 to medical services, to the social safety net. 27 00:01:24,155 --> 00:01:27,702 They work hard. They pay taxes. 28 00:01:27,702 --> 00:01:29,532 They're law-abiding. 29 00:01:29,532 --> 00:01:33,019 They use social services less than Americans do. 30 00:01:33,019 --> 00:01:35,345 They're eager to learn English, 31 00:01:35,345 --> 00:01:39,749 and their children serve in the US military all over the world." 32 00:01:40,530 --> 00:01:44,623 Now these are of course arguments that we hear every day. 33 00:01:44,623 --> 00:01:47,698 Immigrants and their advocates use them 34 00:01:47,698 --> 00:01:51,341 as they confront those who would deny immigrants their rights 35 00:01:51,341 --> 00:01:54,533 or even exclude them from society. 36 00:01:54,533 --> 00:01:57,327 And up to a certain point, it makes perfect sense 37 00:01:57,327 --> 00:02:02,337 that these would be the kinds of claims that immigrants' defenders would turn to. 38 00:02:02,538 --> 00:02:06,290 But in the long term, and maybe even in the short term, 39 00:02:06,290 --> 00:02:09,397 I think these arguments can be counterproductive. 40 00:02:10,091 --> 00:02:11,597 Why? 41 00:02:11,597 --> 00:02:13,822 Because it's always an uphill battle 42 00:02:13,822 --> 00:02:18,360 to defend yourself on your opponents' terrain, 43 00:02:18,360 --> 00:02:19,667 and, unwittingly, 44 00:02:19,667 --> 00:02:21,869 the handouts that my friends and I were handing out 45 00:02:21,869 --> 00:02:25,075 and the versions of these arguments that we hear today, 46 00:02:25,075 --> 00:02:28,668 we're actually playing the anti-immigrants' game. 47 00:02:28,668 --> 00:02:31,461 We were playing that game in part by envisioning 48 00:02:31,461 --> 00:02:33,475 that immigrants were outsiders, 49 00:02:33,475 --> 00:02:37,132 rather than, as I'm hoping to suggest in a few minutes, 50 00:02:37,132 --> 00:02:41,107 people that are already, in important ways, on the inside. 51 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 It's those who are hostile to immigrants, the nativists, 52 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 who have succeeded in framing the immigration debate 53 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 around three main questions. 54 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 First, there's the question of whether immigrants can be useful tools. 55 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 How can we use immigrants? 56 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 Will they make us richer and stronger? 57 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 The nativist answer to this question is no, 58 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 immigrants have little or nothing to offer. 59 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 The second questions is whether immigrants are others. 60 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 Can immigrants become more like us? 61 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 Are they capable of becoming more like us? Are they capable of assimilating? 62 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 Are they willing to assimilate? 63 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 Here, again, the nativist answer is no, 64 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 immigrants and permanently different from us and inferior to us. 65 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 And the third question is whether immigrants are parasites. 66 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 Are they dangerous to us? And will they drain our resources? 67 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 Here, the nativist answer is yes and yes, 68 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 immigrants pose a threat and they sap our wealth. 69 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 I would suggest that these three questions and the nativist animus behind them 70 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 have succeeded in framing the larger contours of the immigration debate. 71 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 These questions are anti-immigrant and nativist at their core, 72 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 built around a kind of hierarchical division of insiders and outsiders, 73 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 us and them, 74 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 in which only we matter and they don't. 75 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 And what gives these questions traction and power 76 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 beyond the circle of committed nativists is the way that they tap into 77 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 an everyday, seemingly harmless sense of national belonging 78 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 and activate it, heighten it, 79 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 and inflame it. 80 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 Nativists commit themselves to making stark distinctions 81 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 between insiders and outsiders, 82 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 but the distinction itself is at the heart of the way nations define themselves. 83 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 The fissures between inside and outside, 84 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 which often run deepest along lines of race and religion, 85 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 are always there to be deepened and exploited. 86 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 And that potentially gives nativist approaches 87 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 far beyond those who consider themselves anti-immigrant, 88 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 and remarkably even among some who consider themselves pro-immigrant. 89 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 So, for example, 90 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 when immigrants act allies 91 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 answer these questions the nativists are posing, 92 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 they take them seriously. 93 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 They legitimate those questions, and, to some extent, 94 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 the anti-immigrant assumptions that are behind them. 95 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 When we take these questions seriously without even knowing it, 96 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 we're reinforcing the closed, exclusionary borders 97 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 of the immigration conversation. 98 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 So how did we get here? 99 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 How did these become the leading ways that we talk about immigration? 100 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 Here we need some backstory, which is where my history training comes in. 101 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 During the first century 102 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 of the US's status as an independent nation, 103 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 it did very little to restrict immigration at the national level. 104 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 In fact, many policymakers and employers worked hard 105 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 to recruit immigrants 106 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 to build up industry 107 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 and to serve as settlers, to seize the continent. 108 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 But after the Civil War, 109 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 nativist voices rose in volume and in power. 110 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 The Asian, Latin American, Caribbean and European immigrants 111 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 who dug Americans' canals, 112 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 cooked their dinners, 113 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 fought their wars, 114 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 and put their children to bed at night, 115 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 were met with a new and intense xenophobia 116 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 which cast immigrants as permanent outsiders 117 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 who should never be allowed to become insiders. 118 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 By the mid-1920s, the nativists had won, 119 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 erecting racist laws 120 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 that closed our untold numbers of vulnerable immigrants and refugees. 121 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 Immigrants and their allies did their best to fight back, 122 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 but they found themselves on the defensive, 123 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 caught in some ways in the nativists' frames. 124 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 When nativists said that immigrants weren't useful, 125 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 their allies said yes, they are. 126 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 When nativists accused immigrants of being others, 127 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 their allies promised that they would assimilate. 128 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 When nativists charged that immigrants were dangerous parasites, 129 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 their allies emphasized their loyalty, their obedience, 130 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 their hard work, and their thrift. 131 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 Even as advocates welcomed immigrants, 132 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 many still regarded immigrants as outsiders 133 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 to be pitied, to be rescued, 134 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 to be uplifted and to be tolerated, 135 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 but never fully brought inside as equals in rights and respect. 136 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 After World War II, and especially from the mid-1960s until really recently, 137 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 immigrants and their allies turned the tide, 138 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 overthrowing mid-20th century restriction 139 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 and winning instead a new system that prioritized family reunification, 140 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 the admission of refugees, 141 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 and the admission of those with special skills. 142 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 But even then, 143 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 they didn't succeed in fundamentally changing the terms of the debate, 144 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 and so that framework endured, 145 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 ready to be taken up again in our own convulsive moment. 146 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 That conversation is broken. 147 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 The old questions are harmful and divisive. 148 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 So how do we get from that conversation 149 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 to one that's more likely to get us closer to a world that is fairer, 150 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 that is more just, 151 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 that's more secure? 152 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 I want to suggest that what we have to do 153 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 is one of the hardest thing that any society can do: 154 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 to redraw the boundaries of who counts, 155 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 of whose life, whose rights, 156 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 and whose thriving matters. 157 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 We need to redraw the boundaries. 158 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 We need to redraw the borders of us. 159 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 In order to do that, we need to first take on a worldview that's widely held 160 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 but also seriously flawed. 161 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 According to that worldview, 162 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 there's the inside of the national boundaries, 163 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 inside the nation which is where we live, work and mind our own business, 164 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 and then there's the outside, there's everywhere else. 165 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 According to this worldview, when immigrants cross into the nation, 166 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 they're moving from the outside to the inside, 167 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 but they remain outsiders. 168 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 Any power or resources they receive 169 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 are gifts from us rather than rights. 170 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 Now it's not hard to see why this is such a commonly held worldview. 171 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 It's reinforced in everyday way that we talk and act and behave 172 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 down to the bordered maps that we hang up in our schoolrooms. 173 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 The problem with this worldview is that it just doesn't correspond 174 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 to the way the world actually works and the way it has worked in the past. 175 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 Of course, American workers have built up wealth in society, 176 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 but so have immigrants, 177 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 particularly in parts of the American economy that are indispensable 178 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 and where few Americans work, like agriculture. 179 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 Since the nation's founding, 180 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 Americans have been inside the American workforce. 181 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 Of course, Americans have built up institutions and society 182 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 that guaranteed rights, 183 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 but so have immigrants. 184 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 They've been there during every major social movement, 185 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 like civil rights and organized labor, 186 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 that have fought to expand rights and society for everyone. 187 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 So immigrants are already inside 188 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 the struggle for rights, democracy and freedom. 189 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 And finally, Americans and other citizens of the Global North 190 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 haven't minded their own business, 191 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 and they haven't stayed within their own borders. 192 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 They haven't respected other nations' borders. 193 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 They've gone out into the world with their armies, 194 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 they've taken over territories and resources, 195 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 and they've extracted enormous profits from many of the countries 196 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 that immigrants are from. 197 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 In this sense, many immigrants are actually already inside American power. 198 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 With this different map of inside and outside in mind, 199 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 the question isn't whether receiving countries 200 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 are going to let immigrants in. 201 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 They're already in. 202 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 The question is whether the United States and other countries 203 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 are going to give immigrants access to the rights and resources 204 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 that their work, their activism, and their home countries 205 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 have already played a fundamental role in creating. 206 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 With this new map in mind, 207 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 we can turn to a set of tough, new, urgently needed questions 208 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 radically different from the ones we've asked before, 209 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 questions that might change the borders of the immigration debate. 210 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 Our three questions are about workers' rights, 211 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 about responsibility 212 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 and about equality. 213 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 First, we need to be asking about workers' rights. 214 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 How do existing policies make it harder for immigrants to defend themselves 215 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 and easier for them to be exploited, 216 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 driving down wages, rights and protections for everyone? 217 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 When immigrants are threatened with roundups, detention and deportations, 218 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 their employers know that they can be abused, 219 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 that they can be told 220 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 that if they fight back, they'll be turned over to ICE. 221 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 When employers know 222 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 that they can terrorize an immigrant with his lack of papers, 223 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 it makes that worker hyper-exploitable, 224 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 and that has impacts not only for immigrant workers 225 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 but for all workers. 226 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 Second, we need to ask questions about responsibility. 227 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 What role have rich, powerful countries like the United States played 228 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 in making it hard or impossible 229 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 for immigrants to stay in their home countries? 230 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 Picking up and moving from your country is difficult and dangerous, 231 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 but many immigrants simply do not have the option of staying home 232 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 if they want to survive. 233 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 Wars, trade agreements, 234 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 and consumer habits rooted in the Global North 235 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 play a major and devastating role here. 236 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 What responsibilities do the United States, 237 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 the European Union, and China -- 238 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 the world's leading carbon emitters -- 239 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 have to the millions of people already uprooted by global warming? 240 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 And third, we need to ask questions about equality. 241 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 Global inequality is a wrenching, intensifying problem. 242 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 Income and wealth gaps are widening around the world. 243 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 Increasingly what determines whether you're rich or poor 244 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 more than anything else is what country you're born in, 245 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 which might seem great if you're from a prosperous country, 246 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 but it actually means a profoundly unjust distribution 247 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 of the chances for a long, healthy, fulfilling life. 248 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 When immigrants send money or goods home to their family, 249 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 it plays a significant role in narrowing these gaps, 250 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 if a very incomplete one. 251 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 It does more than all of the foreign aid programs 252 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 in the world combined. 253 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 We began with the nativist questions, 254 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 about immigrants as tools, 255 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 as others, and as parasites. 256 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 Where might these new questions about worker rights, 257 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 about responsibility, 258 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 and about equality, 259 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 take us? 260 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 These questions reject pity 261 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 and they embrace justice. 262 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 These questions reject the nativist and nationalist division 263 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 of us versus them. 264 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 They're going to help prepare us for problems that are coming 265 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 and problems like global warming 266 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 that are already upon us. 267 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 It's not going to be easy to turn away from the questions that we've been asking 268 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 towards this new set of questions. 269 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 It's no small challenge 270 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 to take on and broaden the borders of us. 271 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 It will take wit, inventiveness 272 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 and courage. 273 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 The old questions have been with us for a long time, 274 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 and they're not going to give way on their own, 275 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 and they're not going to give way overnight. 276 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 And even if we manage to change the questions, 277 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 the answers are going to be complicated and they're going to require 278 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 sacrifices and tradeoffs. 279 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 And in an unequal world, we're always going to have to pay attention 280 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 to the question of who has the power to join the conversation 281 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 and who doesn't. 282 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 But the borders of the immigration debate 283 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 can be moved. 284 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 It's up to all of us to move them. 285 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 Thank you. 286 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 (Applause)