0:00:00.751,0:00:05.232 We often hear these days[br]that the immigration system is broken. 0:00:05.232,0:00:09.823 I want to make the case today that[br]our immigration conversation is broken 0:00:09.823,0:00:14.718 and to suggest some ways that together[br]we might build a better one. 0:00:14.974,0:00:18.450 In order to do that, I'm going[br]to propose some new questions 0:00:18.450,0:00:19.640 about immigration, 0:00:19.640,0:00:21.925 the United States and the world, 0:00:21.925,0:00:25.909 questions that might move the borders[br]of the immigration debate. 0:00:25.909,0:00:31.782 I'm not going to begin with the feverish[br]argument that we're currently having, 0:00:31.782,0:00:36.391 even as the lives and wellbeing[br]of immigrants are being put at risk 0:00:36.391,0:00:39.806 at the US borders and far beyond it. 0:00:39.806,0:00:43.247 Instead I'm going to begin[br]with me in graduate school 0:00:43.247,0:00:46.199 in New Jersey in the mid-1990s[br]earnestly studying US history, 0:00:46.199,0:00:48.055 which is what I currently[br]teach as a professor 0:00:48.055,0:00:51.007 at Vanderbilt University[br]in Nashville, Tennessee. 0:00:51.674,0:00:53.295 And when I wasn't studying, 0:00:53.295,0:00:55.562 sometimes to avoid[br]writing my dissertation, 0:00:55.562,0:00:58.448 my friends and I would go into town 0:00:58.448,0:01:01.199 to hand out neon-colored flyers 0:01:01.199,0:01:03.088 protesting legislation 0:01:03.088,0:01:07.088 that was threatening to take away[br]immigrants' rights. 0:01:07.545,0:01:10.622 Our flyers were sincere,[br]they were well-meaning, 0:01:10.622,0:01:12.665 they were factually accurate, 0:01:12.665,0:01:15.556 but I realize now they were also[br]kind of a problem. 0:01:15.793,0:01:16.926 Here's what they said: 0:01:16.926,0:01:19.948 "Don't take away immigrant rights[br]to public education, 0:01:19.948,0:01:24.155 to medical services,[br]to the social safety net. 0:01:24.155,0:01:27.702 They work hard. They pay taxes. 0:01:27.702,0:01:29.532 They're law-abiding. 0:01:29.532,0:01:33.019 They use social services[br]less than Americans do. 0:01:33.019,0:01:35.345 They're eager to learn English, 0:01:35.345,0:01:39.749 and their children serve[br]in the US military all over the world." 0:01:40.530,0:01:44.623 Now these are of course arguments[br]that we hear every day. 0:01:44.623,0:01:47.698 Immigrants and their advocates use them 0:01:47.698,0:01:51.341 as they confront those who would[br]deny immigrants their rights 0:01:51.341,0:01:54.533 or even exclude them from society. 0:01:54.533,0:01:57.327 And up to a certain point,[br]it makes perfect sense 0:01:57.327,0:02:02.337 that these would be the kinds of claims[br]that immigrants' defenders would turn to. 0:02:02.538,0:02:06.290 But in the long term,[br]and maybe even in the short term, 0:02:06.290,0:02:09.397 I think these arguments[br]can be counterproductive. 0:02:10.091,0:02:11.597 Why? 0:02:11.597,0:02:13.822 Because it's always an uphill battle 0:02:13.822,0:02:18.360 to defend yourself[br]on your opponents' terrain, 0:02:18.360,0:02:19.667 and, unwittingly, 0:02:19.667,0:02:21.869 the handouts that my friends[br]and I were handing out 0:02:21.869,0:02:25.075 and the versions of these arguments[br]that we hear today, 0:02:25.075,0:02:28.668 we're actually playing[br]the anti-immigrants' game. 0:02:28.668,0:02:31.461 We were playing that game[br]in part by envisioning 0:02:31.461,0:02:33.475 that immigrants were outsiders, 0:02:33.475,0:02:37.132 rather than, as I'm hoping[br]to suggest in a few minutes, 0:02:37.132,0:02:41.107 people that are already,[br]in important ways, on the inside. 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 It's those who are hostile[br]to immigrants, the nativists, 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 who have succeeded[br]in framing the immigration debate 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 around three main questions. 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 First, there's the question of whether[br]immigrants can be useful tools. 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 How can we use immigrants? 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 Will they make us richer and stronger? 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 The nativist answer[br]to this question is no, 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 immigrants have little[br]or nothing to offer. 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 The second questions is whether[br]immigrants are others. 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 Can immigrants become more like us? 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 Are they capable of becoming more like us?[br]Are they capable of assimilating? 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 Are they willing to assimilate? 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 Here, again, the nativist answer is no, 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 immigrants and permanently[br]different from us and inferior to us. 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 And the third question is whether[br]immigrants are parasites. 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 Are they dangerous to us?[br]And will they drain our resources? 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 Here, the nativist answer is yes and yes, 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 immigrants pose a threat[br]and they sap our wealth. 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 I would suggest that these three questions[br]and the nativist animus behind them 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 have succeeded in framing the larger[br]contours of the immigration debate. 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 These questions are anti-immigrant[br]and nativist at their core, 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 built around a kind of hierarchical[br]division of insiders and outsiders, 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 us and them, 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 in which only we matter and they don't. 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 And what gives these questions[br]traction and power 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 beyond the circle of committed nativists[br]is the way that they tap into 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 an everyday, seemingly harmless[br]sense of national belonging 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 and activate it, heighten it, 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 and inflame it. 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 Nativists commit themselves[br]to making stark distinctions 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 between insiders and outsiders, 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 but the distinction itself is at the heart[br]of the way nations define themselves. 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 The fissures between inside and outside, 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 which often run deepest[br]along lines of race and religion, 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 are always there to be[br]deepened and exploited. 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 And that potentially[br]gives nativist approaches 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 far beyond those who consider[br]themselves anti-immigrant, 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 and remarkably even among some[br]who consider themselves pro-immigrant. 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 So, for example, 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 when immigrants act allies 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 answer these questions[br]the nativists are posing, 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 they take them seriously. 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 They legitimate those questions,[br]and, to some extent, 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 the anti-immigrant assumptions[br]that are behind them. 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 When we take these questions seriously[br]without even knowing it, 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 we're reinforcing the closed,[br]exclusionary borders 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 of the immigration conversation. 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 So how did we get here? 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 How did these become the leading ways[br]that we talk about immigration? 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 Here we need some backstory, which is[br]where my history training comes in. 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 During the first century 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 of the US's status[br]as an independent nation, 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 it did very little to restrict[br]immigration at the national level. 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 In fact, many policymakers[br]and employers worked hard 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 to recruit immigrants 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 to build up industry 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 and to serve as settlers,[br]to seize the continent. 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 But after the Civil War, 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 nativist voices rose[br]in volume and in power. 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 The Asian, Latin American,[br]Caribbean and European immigrants 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 who dug Americans' canals, 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 cooked their dinners, 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 fought their wars, 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 and put their children to bed at night, 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 were met with a new and intense xenophobia 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 which cast immigrants[br]as permanent outsiders 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 who should never be allowed[br]to become insiders. 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 By the mid-1920s, the nativists had won, 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 erecting racist laws 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 that closed our untold numbers[br]of vulnerable immigrants and refugees. 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 Immigrants and their allies[br]did their best to fight back, 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 but they found themselves[br]on the defensive, 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 caught in some ways[br]in the nativists' frames. 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 When nativists said[br]that immigrants weren't useful, 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 their allies said yes, they are. 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 When nativists accused[br]immigrants of being others, 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 their allies promised[br]that they would assimilate. 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 When nativists charged that immigrants[br]were dangerous parasites, 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 their allies emphasized[br]their loyalty, their obedience, 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 their hard work, and their thrift. 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 Even as advocates welcomed immigrants, 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 many still regarded[br]immigrants as outsiders 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 to be pitied, to be rescued, 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 to be uplifted and to be tolerated, 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 but never fully brought inside[br]as equals in rights and respect. 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 After World War II, and especially[br]from the mid-1960s until really recently, 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 immigrants and their allies[br]turned the tide, 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 overthrowing mid-20th century restriction 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 and winning instead a new system[br]that prioritized family reunification, 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 the admission of refugees, 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 and the admission of those[br]with special skills. 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 But even then, 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 they didn't succeed in fundamentally[br]changing the terms of the debate, 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 and so that framework endured, 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 ready to be taken up again[br]in our own convulsive moment. 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 That conversation is broken. 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 The old questions[br]are harmful and divisive. 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 So how do we get from that conversation 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 to one that's more likely to get us[br]closer to a world that is fairer, 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 that is more just, 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 that's more secure? 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 I want to suggest that what we have to do 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 is one of the hardest thing[br]that any society can do: 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 to redraw the boundaries of who counts, 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 of whose life, whose rights, 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 and whose thriving matters. 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 We need to redraw the boundaries. 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 We need to redraw the borders of us. 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 In order to do that, we need to first[br]take on a worldview that's widely held 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 but also seriously flawed. 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 According to that worldview, 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 there's the inside[br]of the national boundaries, 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 inside the nation which is where we[br]live, work and mind our own business, 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 and then there's the outside,[br]there's everywhere else. 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 According to this worldview,[br]when immigrants cross into the nation, 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 they're moving from[br]the outside to the inside, 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 but they remain outsiders. 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 Any power or resources they receive 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 are gifts from us rather than rights. 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 Now it's not hard to see why[br]this is such a commonly held worldview. 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 It's reinforced in everyday way[br]that we talk and act and behave 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 down to the bordered maps[br]that we hang up in our schoolrooms. 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 The problem with this worldview[br]is that it just doesn't correspond 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 to the way the world actually works[br]and the way it has worked in the past. 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 Of course, American workers[br]have built up wealth in society, 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 but so have immigrants, 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 particularly in parts of the American[br]economy that are indispensable 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 and where few Americans work,[br]like agriculture. 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 Since the nation's founding, 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 Americans have been inside[br]the American workforce. 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 Of course, Americans have built up[br]institutions and society 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 that guaranteed rights, 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 but so have immigrants. 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 They've been there during[br]every major social movement, 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 like civil rights and organized labor, 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 that have fought to expand[br]rights and society for everyone. 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 So immigrants are already inside 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 the struggle for rights,[br]democracy and freedom. 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 And finally, Americans[br]and other citizens of the Global North 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 haven't minded their own business, 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 and they haven't stayed[br]within their own borders. 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 They haven't respected[br]other nations' borders. 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 They've gone out into[br]the world with their armies, 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 they've taken over[br]territories and resources, 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 and they've extracted enormous profits[br]from many of the countries 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 that immigrants are from. 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 In this sense, many immigrants are [br]actually already inside American power. 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 With this different map[br]of inside and outside in mind, 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 the question isn't whether[br]receiving countries 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 are going to let immigrants in. 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 They're already in. 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 The question is whether[br]the United States and other countries 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 are going to give immigrants[br]access to the rights and resources 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 that their work, their activism,[br]and their home countries 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 have already played[br]a fundamental role in creating. 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 With this new map in mind, 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 we can turn to a set of tough,[br]new, urgently needed questions 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 radically different from the ones[br]we've asked before, 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 questions that might change[br]the borders of the immigration debate. 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 Our three questions are[br]about workers' rights, 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 about responsibility 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 and about equality. 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 First, we need to be asking[br]about workers' rights. 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 How do existing policies make it harder[br]for immigrants to defend themselves 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 and easier for them to be exploited, 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 driving down wages, rights[br]and protections for everyone? 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 When immigrants are threatened[br]with roundups, detention and deportations, 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 their employers know[br]that they can be abused, 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 that they can be told 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 that if they fight back,[br]they'll be turned over to ICE. 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 When employers know 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 that they can terrorize an immigrant[br]with his lack of papers, 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 it makes that worker hyper-exploitable, 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 and that has impacts[br]not only for immigrant workers 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 but for all workers. 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 Second, we need to ask questions[br]about responsibility. 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 What role have rich, powerful countries[br]like the United States played 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 in making it hard or impossible 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 for immigrants to stay[br]in their home countries? 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 Picking up and moving from your country[br]is difficult and dangerous, 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 but many immigrants simply do not[br]have the option of staying home 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 if they want to survive. 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 Wars, trade agreements, 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 and consumer habits[br]rooted in the Global North 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 play a major and devastating role here. 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 What responsibilities[br]do the United States, 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 the European Union, and China -- 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 the world's leading carbon emitters -- 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 have to the millions of people[br]already uprooted by global warming? 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 And third, we need to ask[br]questions about equality. 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 Global inequality is a wrenching,[br]intensifying problem. 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 Income and wealth gaps[br]are widening around the world. 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 Increasingly what determines[br]whether you're rich or poor 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 more than anything else[br]is what country you're born in, 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 which might seem great[br]if you're from a prosperous country, 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 but it actually means[br]a profoundly unjust distribution 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 of the chances for a long,[br]healthy, fulfilling life. 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 When immigrants send money[br]or goods home to their family, 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 it plays a significant role[br]in narrowing these gaps, 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 if a very incomplete one. 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 It does more than all[br]of the foreign aid programs 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 in the world combined. 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 We began with the nativist questions, 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 about immigrants as tools, 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 as others, and as parasites. 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 Where might these new questions[br]about worker rights, 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 about responsibility, 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 and about equality, 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 take us? 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 These questions reject pity 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 and they embrace justice. 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 These questions reject[br]the nativist and nationalist division 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 of us versus them. 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 They're going to help prepare us[br]for problems that are coming 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 and problems like global warming 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 that are already upon us. 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 It's not going to be easy to turn away[br]from the questions that we've been asking 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 towards this new set of questions. 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 It's no small challenge 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 to take on and broaden the borders of us. 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 It will take wit, inventiveness 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 and courage. 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 The old questions have been[br]with us for a long time, 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 and they're not going[br]to give way on their own, 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 and they're not going[br]to give way overnight. 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 And even if we manage[br]to change the questions, 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 the answers are going to be complicated[br]and they're going to require 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 sacrifices and tradeoffs. 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 And in an unequal world, we're always[br]going to have to pay attention 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 to the question of who has the power[br]to join the conversation 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 and who doesn't. 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 But the borders of the immigration debate 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 can be moved. 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 It's up to all of us to move them. 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 Thank you. 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 (Applause)