[Script Info] Title: [Events] Format: Layer, Start, End, Style, Name, MarginL, MarginR, MarginV, Effect, Text Dialogue: 0,0:00:00.00,0:00:02.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The things we make Dialogue: 0,0:00:02.00,0:00:05.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,have one supreme quality -- Dialogue: 0,0:00:05.00,0:00:07.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,they live longer than us. Dialogue: 0,0:00:07.00,0:00:09.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,We perish, they survive; Dialogue: 0,0:00:09.00,0:00:12.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,we have one life, they have many lives, Dialogue: 0,0:00:12.00,0:00:15.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and in each life they can mean different things. Dialogue: 0,0:00:15.00,0:00:18.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Which means that, while we all have one biography, Dialogue: 0,0:00:18.00,0:00:20.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,they have many. Dialogue: 0,0:00:20.00,0:00:22.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I want this morning to talk Dialogue: 0,0:00:22.00,0:00:25.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,about the story, the biography -- or rather the biographies -- Dialogue: 0,0:00:25.00,0:00:28.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,of one particular object, Dialogue: 0,0:00:28.00,0:00:30.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,one remarkable thing. Dialogue: 0,0:00:30.00,0:00:32.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It doesn't, I agree, Dialogue: 0,0:00:32.00,0:00:34.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,look very much. Dialogue: 0,0:00:34.00,0:00:37.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It's about the size of a rugby ball. Dialogue: 0,0:00:37.00,0:00:39.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It's made of clay, Dialogue: 0,0:00:39.00,0:00:41.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and it's been fashioned Dialogue: 0,0:00:41.00,0:00:44.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,into a cylinder shape, Dialogue: 0,0:00:44.00,0:00:46.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,covered with close writing Dialogue: 0,0:00:46.00,0:00:49.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and then baked dry in the sun. Dialogue: 0,0:00:49.00,0:00:51.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And as you can see, Dialogue: 0,0:00:51.00,0:00:53.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,it's been knocked about a bit, Dialogue: 0,0:00:53.00,0:00:55.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,which is not surprising Dialogue: 0,0:00:55.00,0:00:58.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,because it was made two and a half thousand years ago Dialogue: 0,0:00:58.00,0:01:00.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and was dug up Dialogue: 0,0:01:00.00,0:01:02.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,in 1879. Dialogue: 0,0:01:02.00,0:01:04.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But today, Dialogue: 0,0:01:04.00,0:01:06.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,this thing is, I believe, Dialogue: 0,0:01:06.00,0:01:08.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,a major player Dialogue: 0,0:01:08.00,0:01:10.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,in the politics of the Middle East. Dialogue: 0,0:01:10.00,0:01:12.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And it's an object Dialogue: 0,0:01:12.00,0:01:14.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,with fascinating stories Dialogue: 0,0:01:14.00,0:01:18.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and stories that are by no means over yet. Dialogue: 0,0:01:18.00,0:01:20.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The story begins Dialogue: 0,0:01:20.00,0:01:24.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,in the Iran-Iraq war Dialogue: 0,0:01:24.00,0:01:26.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and that series of events Dialogue: 0,0:01:26.00,0:01:28.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that culminated Dialogue: 0,0:01:28.00,0:01:30.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,in the invasion of Iraq Dialogue: 0,0:01:30.00,0:01:32.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,by foreign forces, Dialogue: 0,0:01:32.00,0:01:34.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the removal of a despotic ruler Dialogue: 0,0:01:34.00,0:01:37.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and instant regime change. Dialogue: 0,0:01:37.00,0:01:39.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And I want to begin Dialogue: 0,0:01:39.00,0:01:41.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,with one episode from that sequence of events Dialogue: 0,0:01:41.00,0:01:44.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that most of you would be very familiar with, Dialogue: 0,0:01:44.00,0:01:46.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Belshazzar's feast -- Dialogue: 0,0:01:46.00,0:01:48.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,because we're talking about the Iran-Iraq war Dialogue: 0,0:01:48.00,0:01:51.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,of 539 BC. Dialogue: 0,0:01:51.00,0:01:53.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And the parallels Dialogue: 0,0:01:53.00,0:01:55.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,between the events Dialogue: 0,0:01:55.00,0:01:58.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,of 539 BC and 2003 and in between Dialogue: 0,0:01:58.00,0:02:00.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,are startling. Dialogue: 0,0:02:00.00,0:02:02.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,What you're looking at is Rembrandt's painting, Dialogue: 0,0:02:02.00,0:02:04.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,now in the National Gallery in London, Dialogue: 0,0:02:04.00,0:02:06.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,illustrating the text from the prophet Daniel Dialogue: 0,0:02:06.00,0:02:09.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,in the Hebrew scriptures. Dialogue: 0,0:02:09.00,0:02:11.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And you all know roughly the story. Dialogue: 0,0:02:11.00,0:02:14.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Belshazzar, the son of Nebuchadnezzar, Dialogue: 0,0:02:14.00,0:02:17.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Nebuchadnezzar who'd conquered Israel, sacked Jerusalem Dialogue: 0,0:02:17.00,0:02:19.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and captured the people Dialogue: 0,0:02:19.00,0:02:21.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and taken the Jews back to Babylon. Dialogue: 0,0:02:21.00,0:02:24.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Not only the Jews, he'd taken the temple vessels. Dialogue: 0,0:02:24.00,0:02:27.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,He'd ransacked, desecrated the temple. Dialogue: 0,0:02:27.00,0:02:30.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And the great gold vessels of the temple in Jerusalem Dialogue: 0,0:02:30.00,0:02:33.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,had been taken to Babylon. Dialogue: 0,0:02:33.00,0:02:35.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Belshazzar, his son, Dialogue: 0,0:02:35.00,0:02:37.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,decides to have a feast. Dialogue: 0,0:02:37.00,0:02:39.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And in order to make it even more exciting, Dialogue: 0,0:02:39.00,0:02:42.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,he added a bit of sacrilege to the rest of the fun, Dialogue: 0,0:02:42.00,0:02:45.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and he brings out the temple vessels. Dialogue: 0,0:02:45.00,0:02:48.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,He's already at war with the Iranians, Dialogue: 0,0:02:48.00,0:02:50.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,with the king of Persia. Dialogue: 0,0:02:50.00,0:02:53.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And that night, Daniel tells us, Dialogue: 0,0:02:53.00,0:02:55.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,at the height of the festivities Dialogue: 0,0:02:55.00,0:02:58.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,a hand appeared and wrote on the wall, Dialogue: 0,0:02:58.00,0:03:01.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,"You are weighed in the balance and found wanting, Dialogue: 0,0:03:01.00,0:03:03.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and your kingdom is handed over Dialogue: 0,0:03:03.00,0:03:05.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to the Medes and the Persians." Dialogue: 0,0:03:05.00,0:03:07.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And that very night Dialogue: 0,0:03:07.00,0:03:11.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Cyrus, king of the Persians, entered Babylon Dialogue: 0,0:03:11.00,0:03:16.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and the whole regime of Belshazzar fell. Dialogue: 0,0:03:16.00,0:03:18.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It is, of course, a great moment Dialogue: 0,0:03:18.00,0:03:20.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,in the history Dialogue: 0,0:03:20.00,0:03:22.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,of the Jewish people. Dialogue: 0,0:03:22.00,0:03:24.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It's a great story. It's story we all know. Dialogue: 0,0:03:24.00,0:03:26.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,"The writing on the wall" Dialogue: 0,0:03:26.00,0:03:29.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,is part of our everyday language. Dialogue: 0,0:03:29.00,0:03:31.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,What happened next Dialogue: 0,0:03:31.00,0:03:33.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,was remarkable, Dialogue: 0,0:03:33.00,0:03:35.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and it's where our cylinder Dialogue: 0,0:03:35.00,0:03:37.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,enters the story. Dialogue: 0,0:03:37.00,0:03:39.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Cyrus, king of the Persians, Dialogue: 0,0:03:39.00,0:03:41.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,has entered Babylon without a fight -- Dialogue: 0,0:03:41.00,0:03:43.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the great empire of Babylon, Dialogue: 0,0:03:43.00,0:03:45.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,which ran from central southern Iraq Dialogue: 0,0:03:45.00,0:03:47.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to the Mediterranean, Dialogue: 0,0:03:47.00,0:03:49.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,falls to Cyrus. Dialogue: 0,0:03:49.00,0:03:53.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And Cyrus makes a declaration. Dialogue: 0,0:03:53.00,0:03:56.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And that is what this cylinder is, Dialogue: 0,0:03:56.00,0:03:59.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the declaration made by the ruler guided by God Dialogue: 0,0:03:59.00,0:04:03.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,who had toppled the Iraqi despot Dialogue: 0,0:04:03.00,0:04:05.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and was going to bring freedom to the people. Dialogue: 0,0:04:05.00,0:04:07.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,In ringing Babylonian -- Dialogue: 0,0:04:07.00,0:04:09.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,it was written in Babylonian -- Dialogue: 0,0:04:09.00,0:04:12.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,he says, "I am Cyrus, king of all the universe, Dialogue: 0,0:04:12.00,0:04:14.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the great king, the powerful king, Dialogue: 0,0:04:14.00,0:04:18.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,king of Babylon, king of the four quarters of the world." Dialogue: 0,0:04:18.00,0:04:21.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,They're not shy of hyperbole as you can see. Dialogue: 0,0:04:21.00,0:04:23.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,This is probably Dialogue: 0,0:04:23.00,0:04:25.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the first real press release Dialogue: 0,0:04:25.00,0:04:27.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,by a victorious army Dialogue: 0,0:04:27.00,0:04:29.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that we've got. Dialogue: 0,0:04:29.00,0:04:31.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And it's written, as we'll see in due course, Dialogue: 0,0:04:31.00,0:04:34.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,by very skilled P.R. consultants. Dialogue: 0,0:04:34.00,0:04:37.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So the hyperbole is not actually surprising. Dialogue: 0,0:04:37.00,0:04:39.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And what is the great king, the powerful king, Dialogue: 0,0:04:39.00,0:04:42.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the king of the four quarters of the world going to do? Dialogue: 0,0:04:42.00,0:04:45.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,He goes on to say that, having conquered Babylon, Dialogue: 0,0:04:45.00,0:04:48.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,he will at once let all the peoples Dialogue: 0,0:04:48.00,0:04:50.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that the Babylonians -- Nebuchadnezzar and Belshazzar -- Dialogue: 0,0:04:50.00,0:04:52.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,have captured and enslaved Dialogue: 0,0:04:52.00,0:04:54.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,go free. Dialogue: 0,0:04:54.00,0:04:56.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,He'll let them return to their countries. Dialogue: 0,0:04:56.00,0:04:58.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And more important, Dialogue: 0,0:04:58.00,0:05:00.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,he will let them all recover Dialogue: 0,0:05:00.00,0:05:02.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the gods, the statues, Dialogue: 0,0:05:02.00,0:05:04.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the temple vessels Dialogue: 0,0:05:04.00,0:05:06.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that had been confiscated. Dialogue: 0,0:05:06.00,0:05:09.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,All the peoples that the Babylonians had repressed and removed Dialogue: 0,0:05:09.00,0:05:11.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,will go home, Dialogue: 0,0:05:11.00,0:05:14.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and they'll take with them their gods. Dialogue: 0,0:05:14.00,0:05:17.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And they'll be able to restore their altars Dialogue: 0,0:05:17.00,0:05:19.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and to worship their gods Dialogue: 0,0:05:19.00,0:05:22.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,in their own way, in their own place. Dialogue: 0,0:05:22.00,0:05:24.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,This is the decree, Dialogue: 0,0:05:24.00,0:05:27.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,this object is the evidence Dialogue: 0,0:05:27.00,0:05:29.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,for the fact that the Jews, Dialogue: 0,0:05:29.00,0:05:31.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,after the exile in Babylon, Dialogue: 0,0:05:31.00,0:05:34.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the years they'd spent sitting by the waters of Babylon, Dialogue: 0,0:05:34.00,0:05:37.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,weeping when they remembered Jerusalem, Dialogue: 0,0:05:37.00,0:05:40.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,those Jews were allowed to go home. Dialogue: 0,0:05:40.00,0:05:42.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,They were allowed to return to Jerusalem Dialogue: 0,0:05:42.00,0:05:44.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and to rebuild the temple. Dialogue: 0,0:05:44.00,0:05:46.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It's a central document Dialogue: 0,0:05:46.00,0:05:48.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,in Jewish history. Dialogue: 0,0:05:48.00,0:05:52.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And the Book of Chronicles, the Book of Ezra in the Hebrew scriptures Dialogue: 0,0:05:52.00,0:05:54.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,reported in ringing terms. Dialogue: 0,0:05:54.00,0:05:56.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,This is the Jewish version Dialogue: 0,0:05:56.00,0:05:58.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,of the same story. Dialogue: 0,0:05:58.00,0:06:00.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,"Thus said Cyrus, king of Persia, Dialogue: 0,0:06:00.00,0:06:03.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,'All the kingdoms of the earth have the Lord God of heaven given thee, Dialogue: 0,0:06:03.00,0:06:05.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and he has charged me Dialogue: 0,0:06:05.00,0:06:07.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to build him a house in Jerusalem. Dialogue: 0,0:06:07.00,0:06:09.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Who is there among you of his people? Dialogue: 0,0:06:09.00,0:06:11.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The Lord God be with him, Dialogue: 0,0:06:11.00,0:06:14.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and let him go up.'" Dialogue: 0,0:06:14.00,0:06:16.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,"Go up" -- aaleh. Dialogue: 0,0:06:16.00,0:06:19.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The central element, still, Dialogue: 0,0:06:19.00,0:06:21.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,of the notion of return, Dialogue: 0,0:06:21.00,0:06:23.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,a central part Dialogue: 0,0:06:23.00,0:06:25.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,of the life of Judaism. Dialogue: 0,0:06:25.00,0:06:27.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,As you all know, that return from exile, Dialogue: 0,0:06:27.00,0:06:29.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the second temple, Dialogue: 0,0:06:29.00,0:06:31.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,reshaped Judaism. Dialogue: 0,0:06:31.00,0:06:33.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And that change, Dialogue: 0,0:06:33.00,0:06:35.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that great historic moment, Dialogue: 0,0:06:35.00,0:06:39.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,was made possible by Cyrus, the king of Persia, Dialogue: 0,0:06:39.00,0:06:42.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,reported for us in Hebrew in scripture Dialogue: 0,0:06:42.00,0:06:45.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and in Babylonian in clay. Dialogue: 0,0:06:45.00,0:06:47.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Two great texts, Dialogue: 0,0:06:47.00,0:06:49.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,what about the politics? Dialogue: 0,0:06:49.00,0:06:51.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,What was going on Dialogue: 0,0:06:51.00,0:06:54.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,was the fundamental shift in Middle Eastern history. Dialogue: 0,0:06:54.00,0:06:57.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The empire of Iran, the Medes and the Persians, Dialogue: 0,0:06:57.00,0:06:59.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,united under Cyrus, Dialogue: 0,0:06:59.00,0:07:03.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,became the first great world empire. Dialogue: 0,0:07:03.00,0:07:06.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Cyrus begins in the 530s BC. Dialogue: 0,0:07:06.00,0:07:10.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And by the time of his son Darius, Dialogue: 0,0:07:10.00,0:07:13.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the whole of the eastern Mediterranean Dialogue: 0,0:07:13.00,0:07:15.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,is under Persian control. Dialogue: 0,0:07:15.00,0:07:17.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,This empire is, in fact, Dialogue: 0,0:07:17.00,0:07:19.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the Middle East as we now know it, Dialogue: 0,0:07:19.00,0:07:22.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and it's what shapes the Middle East as we now know it. Dialogue: 0,0:07:22.00,0:07:24.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It was the largest empire the world had known until then. Dialogue: 0,0:07:24.00,0:07:26.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Much more important, Dialogue: 0,0:07:26.00,0:07:28.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,it was the first Dialogue: 0,0:07:28.00,0:07:30.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,multicultural, multifaith state Dialogue: 0,0:07:30.00,0:07:32.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,on a huge scale. Dialogue: 0,0:07:32.00,0:07:34.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And it had to be run in a quite new way. Dialogue: 0,0:07:34.00,0:07:36.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It had to be run in different languages. Dialogue: 0,0:07:36.00,0:07:39.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The fact that this decree is in Babylonian says one thing. Dialogue: 0,0:07:39.00,0:07:41.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And it had to recognize their different habits, Dialogue: 0,0:07:41.00,0:07:44.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,different peoples, different religions, different faiths. Dialogue: 0,0:07:44.00,0:07:47.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,All of those are respected by Cyrus. Dialogue: 0,0:07:47.00,0:07:49.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Cyrus sets up a model Dialogue: 0,0:07:49.00,0:07:51.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,of how you run Dialogue: 0,0:07:51.00,0:07:56.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,a great multinational, multifaith, multicultural society. Dialogue: 0,0:07:56.00,0:07:58.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And the result of that Dialogue: 0,0:07:58.00,0:08:01.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,was an empire that included the areas you see on the screen, Dialogue: 0,0:08:01.00,0:08:04.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and which survived for 200 years of stability Dialogue: 0,0:08:04.00,0:08:07.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,until it was shattered by Alexander. Dialogue: 0,0:08:07.00,0:08:09.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It left a dream of the Middle East as a unit, Dialogue: 0,0:08:09.00,0:08:11.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and a unit where people of different faiths Dialogue: 0,0:08:11.00,0:08:13.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,could live together. Dialogue: 0,0:08:13.00,0:08:15.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The Greek invasions ended that. Dialogue: 0,0:08:15.00,0:08:18.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And of course, Alexander couldn't sustain a government Dialogue: 0,0:08:18.00,0:08:20.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and it fragmented. Dialogue: 0,0:08:20.00,0:08:22.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But what Cyrus represented Dialogue: 0,0:08:22.00,0:08:24.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,remained absolutely central. Dialogue: 0,0:08:24.00,0:08:27.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The Greek historian Xenophon Dialogue: 0,0:08:27.00,0:08:29.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,wrote his book "Cyropaedia" Dialogue: 0,0:08:29.00,0:08:31.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,promoting Cyrus as the great ruler. Dialogue: 0,0:08:31.00,0:08:34.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And throughout European culture afterward, Dialogue: 0,0:08:34.00,0:08:37.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Cyrus remained the model. Dialogue: 0,0:08:37.00,0:08:39.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,This is a 16th century image Dialogue: 0,0:08:39.00,0:08:41.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to show you how widespread Dialogue: 0,0:08:41.00,0:08:44.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,his veneration actually was. Dialogue: 0,0:08:44.00,0:08:46.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And Xenophon's book on Cyrus Dialogue: 0,0:08:46.00,0:08:49.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,on how you ran a diverse society Dialogue: 0,0:08:49.00,0:08:51.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,was one of the great textbooks Dialogue: 0,0:08:51.00,0:08:53.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that inspired the Founding Fathers Dialogue: 0,0:08:53.00,0:08:55.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,of the American Revolution. Dialogue: 0,0:08:55.00,0:08:57.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Jefferson was a great admirer -- Dialogue: 0,0:08:57.00,0:08:59.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the ideals of Cyrus Dialogue: 0,0:08:59.00,0:09:01.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,obviously speaking to those 18th century ideals Dialogue: 0,0:09:01.00,0:09:03.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,of how you create religious tolerance Dialogue: 0,0:09:03.00,0:09:06.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,in a new state. Dialogue: 0,0:09:08.00,0:09:10.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Meanwhile, back in Babylon, Dialogue: 0,0:09:10.00,0:09:12.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,things had not been going well. Dialogue: 0,0:09:12.00,0:09:15.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,After Alexander, the other empires, Dialogue: 0,0:09:15.00,0:09:18.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Babylon declines, falls into ruins, Dialogue: 0,0:09:18.00,0:09:22.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and all the traces of the great Babylonian empire are lost -- Dialogue: 0,0:09:22.00,0:09:24.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,until 1879 Dialogue: 0,0:09:24.00,0:09:27.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,when the cylinder is discovered Dialogue: 0,0:09:27.00,0:09:30.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,by a British Museum exhibition digging in Babylon. Dialogue: 0,0:09:30.00,0:09:33.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And it enters now another story. Dialogue: 0,0:09:33.00,0:09:35.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It enters that great debate Dialogue: 0,0:09:35.00,0:09:37.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,in the middle of the 19th century: Dialogue: 0,0:09:37.00,0:09:40.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Are the scriptures reliable? Can we trust them? Dialogue: 0,0:09:40.00,0:09:42.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,We only knew Dialogue: 0,0:09:42.00,0:09:44.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,about the return of the Jews and the decree of Cyrus Dialogue: 0,0:09:44.00,0:09:46.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,from the Hebrew scriptures. Dialogue: 0,0:09:46.00,0:09:48.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,No other evidence. Dialogue: 0,0:09:48.00,0:09:50.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Suddenly, this appeared. Dialogue: 0,0:09:50.00,0:09:52.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And great excitement Dialogue: 0,0:09:52.00,0:09:54.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to a world where those who believed in the scriptures Dialogue: 0,0:09:54.00,0:09:56.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,had had their faith in creation shaken Dialogue: 0,0:09:56.00,0:09:58.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,by evolution, by geology, Dialogue: 0,0:09:58.00,0:10:00.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,here was evidence Dialogue: 0,0:10:00.00,0:10:02.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that the scriptures were historically true. Dialogue: 0,0:10:02.00,0:10:05.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It's a great 19th century moment. Dialogue: 0,0:10:05.00,0:10:10.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But -- and this, of course, is where it becomes complicated -- Dialogue: 0,0:10:10.00,0:10:12.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the facts were true, Dialogue: 0,0:10:12.00,0:10:15.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,hurrah for archeology, Dialogue: 0,0:10:15.00,0:10:18.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but the interpretation was rather more complicated. Dialogue: 0,0:10:18.00,0:10:21.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Because the cylinder account and the Hebrew Bible account Dialogue: 0,0:10:21.00,0:10:23.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,differ in one key respect. Dialogue: 0,0:10:23.00,0:10:25.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The Babylonian cylinder Dialogue: 0,0:10:25.00,0:10:27.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,is written by the priests Dialogue: 0,0:10:27.00,0:10:29.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,of the great god of Bablyon, Marduk. Dialogue: 0,0:10:29.00,0:10:31.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And, not surprisingly, Dialogue: 0,0:10:31.00,0:10:33.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,they tell you that all this was done by Marduk. Dialogue: 0,0:10:33.00,0:10:36.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,"Marduk, we hold, called Cyrus by his name." Dialogue: 0,0:10:36.00,0:10:39.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Marduk takes Cyrus by the hand, Dialogue: 0,0:10:39.00,0:10:41.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,calls him to shepherd his people Dialogue: 0,0:10:41.00,0:10:44.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and gives him the rule of Babylon. Dialogue: 0,0:10:44.00,0:10:46.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Marduk tells Cyrus Dialogue: 0,0:10:46.00,0:10:48.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that he will do these great, generous things Dialogue: 0,0:10:48.00,0:10:50.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,of setting the people free. Dialogue: 0,0:10:50.00,0:10:52.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And this is why we should all be grateful to Dialogue: 0,0:10:52.00,0:10:54.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and worship Marduk. Dialogue: 0,0:10:54.00,0:10:56.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The Hebrew writers Dialogue: 0,0:10:56.00,0:10:58.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,in the Old Testament, Dialogue: 0,0:10:58.00,0:11:01.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,you will not be surprised to learn, Dialogue: 0,0:11:01.00,0:11:03.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,take a rather different view of this. Dialogue: 0,0:11:03.00,0:11:05.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,For them, of course, it can't possibly by Marduk Dialogue: 0,0:11:05.00,0:11:07.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that made all this happen. Dialogue: 0,0:11:07.00,0:11:09.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It can only be Jehovah. Dialogue: 0,0:11:09.00,0:11:11.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And so in Isaiah, Dialogue: 0,0:11:11.00,0:11:13.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,we have the wonderful texts Dialogue: 0,0:11:13.00,0:11:15.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,giving all the credit of this, Dialogue: 0,0:11:15.00,0:11:16.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,not to Marduk Dialogue: 0,0:11:16.00,0:11:19.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but to the Lord God of Israel -- Dialogue: 0,0:11:19.00,0:11:21.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the Lord God of Israel Dialogue: 0,0:11:21.00,0:11:23.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,who also called Cyrus by name, Dialogue: 0,0:11:23.00,0:11:26.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,also takes Cyrus by the hand Dialogue: 0,0:11:26.00,0:11:28.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and talks of him shepherding his people. Dialogue: 0,0:11:28.00,0:11:30.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It's a remarkable example Dialogue: 0,0:11:30.00,0:11:34.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,of two different priestly appropriations of the same event, Dialogue: 0,0:11:34.00,0:11:36.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,two different religious takeovers Dialogue: 0,0:11:36.00,0:11:38.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,of a political fact. Dialogue: 0,0:11:38.00,0:11:40.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,God, we know, Dialogue: 0,0:11:40.00,0:11:42.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,is usually on the side of the big battalions. Dialogue: 0,0:11:42.00,0:11:45.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The question is, which god was it? Dialogue: 0,0:11:45.00,0:11:47.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And the debate unsettles Dialogue: 0,0:11:47.00,0:11:49.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,everybody in the 19th century Dialogue: 0,0:11:49.00,0:11:51.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to realize that the Hebrew scriptures Dialogue: 0,0:11:51.00,0:11:54.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,are part of a much wider world of religion. Dialogue: 0,0:11:54.00,0:11:56.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And it's quite clear Dialogue: 0,0:11:56.00,0:11:59.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the cylinder is older than the text of Isaiah, Dialogue: 0,0:11:59.00,0:12:01.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and yet, Jehovah is speaking Dialogue: 0,0:12:01.00,0:12:03.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,in words very similar Dialogue: 0,0:12:03.00,0:12:05.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to those used by Marduk. Dialogue: 0,0:12:05.00,0:12:08.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And there's a slight sense that Isaiah knows this, Dialogue: 0,0:12:08.00,0:12:10.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,because he says, Dialogue: 0,0:12:10.00,0:12:13.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,this is God speaking, of course, Dialogue: 0,0:12:13.00,0:12:15.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,"I have called thee by thy name Dialogue: 0,0:12:15.00,0:12:17.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,though thou hast not known me." Dialogue: 0,0:12:17.00,0:12:19.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I think it's recognized Dialogue: 0,0:12:19.00,0:12:21.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that Cyrus doesn't realize Dialogue: 0,0:12:21.00,0:12:24.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that he's acting under orders from Jehovah. Dialogue: 0,0:12:24.00,0:12:27.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And equally, he'd have been surprised that he was acting under orders from Marduk. Dialogue: 0,0:12:27.00,0:12:29.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Because interestingly, of course, Dialogue: 0,0:12:29.00,0:12:31.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Cyrus is a good Iranian Dialogue: 0,0:12:31.00,0:12:33.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,with a totally different set of gods Dialogue: 0,0:12:33.00,0:12:35.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,who are not mentioned in any of these texts. Dialogue: 0,0:12:35.00,0:12:37.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,(Laughter) Dialogue: 0,0:12:37.00,0:12:39.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,That's 1879. Dialogue: 0,0:12:39.00,0:12:41.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,40 years on Dialogue: 0,0:12:41.00,0:12:44.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and we're in 1917, Dialogue: 0,0:12:44.00,0:12:46.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and the cylinder enters a different world. Dialogue: 0,0:12:46.00,0:12:48.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,This time, the real politics Dialogue: 0,0:12:48.00,0:12:50.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,of the contemporary world -- Dialogue: 0,0:12:50.00,0:12:53.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the year of the Balfour Declaration, Dialogue: 0,0:12:53.00,0:12:56.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the year when the new imperial power in the Middle East, Britain, Dialogue: 0,0:12:56.00,0:12:58.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,decides that it will declare Dialogue: 0,0:12:58.00,0:13:00.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,a Jewish national home, Dialogue: 0,0:13:00.00,0:13:02.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,it will allow Dialogue: 0,0:13:02.00,0:13:04.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the Jews to return. Dialogue: 0,0:13:04.00,0:13:06.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And the response to this Dialogue: 0,0:13:06.00,0:13:09.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,by the Jewish population in Eastern Europe is rhapsodic. Dialogue: 0,0:13:09.00,0:13:11.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And across Eastern Europe, Dialogue: 0,0:13:11.00,0:13:13.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Jews display pictures of Cyrus Dialogue: 0,0:13:13.00,0:13:15.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and of George V Dialogue: 0,0:13:15.00,0:13:17.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,side by side -- Dialogue: 0,0:13:17.00,0:13:19.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the two great rulers Dialogue: 0,0:13:19.00,0:13:22.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,who have allowed the return to Jerusalem. Dialogue: 0,0:13:22.00,0:13:25.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And the Cyrus cylinder comes back into public view Dialogue: 0,0:13:25.00,0:13:27.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and the text of this Dialogue: 0,0:13:27.00,0:13:30.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,as a demonstration of why what is going to happen Dialogue: 0,0:13:30.00,0:13:33.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,after the war is over in 1918 Dialogue: 0,0:13:33.00,0:13:36.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,is part of a divine plan. Dialogue: 0,0:13:36.00,0:13:38.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,You all know what happened. Dialogue: 0,0:13:38.00,0:13:41.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The state of Israel is setup, Dialogue: 0,0:13:41.00,0:13:44.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and 50 years later, in the late 60s, Dialogue: 0,0:13:44.00,0:13:47.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,it's clear that Britain's role as the imperial power is over. Dialogue: 0,0:13:47.00,0:13:50.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And another story of the cylinder begins. Dialogue: 0,0:13:50.00,0:13:52.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The region, the U.K. and the U.S. decide, Dialogue: 0,0:13:52.00,0:13:55.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,has to be kept safe from communism, Dialogue: 0,0:13:55.00,0:13:58.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and the superpower that will be created to do this Dialogue: 0,0:13:58.00,0:14:00.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,would be Iran, the Shah. Dialogue: 0,0:14:00.00,0:14:03.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And so the Shah invents an Iranian history, Dialogue: 0,0:14:03.00,0:14:05.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,or a return to Iranian history, Dialogue: 0,0:14:05.00,0:14:08.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that puts him in the center of a great tradition Dialogue: 0,0:14:08.00,0:14:10.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and produces coins Dialogue: 0,0:14:10.00,0:14:12.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,showing himself Dialogue: 0,0:14:12.00,0:14:14.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,with the Cyrus cylinder. Dialogue: 0,0:14:14.00,0:14:17.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,When he has his great celebrations in Persepolis, Dialogue: 0,0:14:17.00,0:14:19.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,he summons the cylinder Dialogue: 0,0:14:19.00,0:14:22.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and the cylinder is lent by the British Museum, goes to Tehran, Dialogue: 0,0:14:22.00,0:14:24.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and is part of those great celebrations Dialogue: 0,0:14:24.00,0:14:27.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,of the Pahlavi dynasty. Dialogue: 0,0:14:27.00,0:14:30.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Cyrus cylinder: guarantor of the Shah. Dialogue: 0,0:14:30.00,0:14:33.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,10 years later, another story: Dialogue: 0,0:14:33.00,0:14:35.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Iranian Revolution, 1979. Dialogue: 0,0:14:35.00,0:14:37.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Islamic revolution, no more Cyrus; Dialogue: 0,0:14:37.00,0:14:39.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,we're not interested in that history, Dialogue: 0,0:14:39.00,0:14:42.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,we're interested in Islamic Iran -- Dialogue: 0,0:14:42.00,0:14:44.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,until Iraq, Dialogue: 0,0:14:44.00,0:14:47.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the new superpower that we've all decided should be in the region, Dialogue: 0,0:14:47.00,0:14:49.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,attacks. Dialogue: 0,0:14:49.00,0:14:51.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Then another Iran-Iraq war. Dialogue: 0,0:14:51.00,0:14:53.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And it becomes critical for the Iranians Dialogue: 0,0:14:53.00,0:14:56.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to remember their great past, Dialogue: 0,0:14:56.00,0:14:58.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,their great past Dialogue: 0,0:14:58.00,0:15:01.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,when they fought Iraq and won. Dialogue: 0,0:15:01.00,0:15:03.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It becomes critical to find a symbol Dialogue: 0,0:15:03.00,0:15:06.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that will pull together all Iranians -- Dialogue: 0,0:15:06.00,0:15:08.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Muslims and non-Muslims, Dialogue: 0,0:15:08.00,0:15:11.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Christians, Zoroastrians, Jews living in Iran, Dialogue: 0,0:15:11.00,0:15:13.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,people who are devout, not devout. Dialogue: 0,0:15:13.00,0:15:16.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And the obvious emblem is Cyrus. Dialogue: 0,0:15:16.00,0:15:19.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So when the British Museum and Tehran National Musuem Dialogue: 0,0:15:19.00,0:15:21.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,cooperate and work together, as we've been doing, Dialogue: 0,0:15:21.00,0:15:23.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the Iranians ask for one thing only Dialogue: 0,0:15:23.00,0:15:25.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,as a loan. Dialogue: 0,0:15:25.00,0:15:27.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It's the only object they want. Dialogue: 0,0:15:27.00,0:15:29.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,They want to borrow the Cyrus cylinder. Dialogue: 0,0:15:29.00,0:15:31.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And last year, Dialogue: 0,0:15:31.00,0:15:35.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the Cyrus cylinder went to Tehran Dialogue: 0,0:15:35.00,0:15:38.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,for the second time. Dialogue: 0,0:15:38.00,0:15:41.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It's shown being presented here, put into its case Dialogue: 0,0:15:41.00,0:15:44.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,by the director of the National Museum of Tehran, Dialogue: 0,0:15:44.00,0:15:47.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,one of the many women in Iran in very senior positions, Dialogue: 0,0:15:47.00,0:15:49.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Mrs. Ardakani. Dialogue: 0,0:15:49.00,0:15:51.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It was a huge event. Dialogue: 0,0:15:51.00,0:15:54.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,This is the other side of that same picture. Dialogue: 0,0:15:54.00,0:15:57.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It's seen in Tehran Dialogue: 0,0:15:57.00,0:15:59.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,by between one and two million people Dialogue: 0,0:15:59.00,0:16:01.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,in the space of a few months. Dialogue: 0,0:16:01.00,0:16:03.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,This is beyond any blockbuster exhibition Dialogue: 0,0:16:03.00,0:16:05.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,in the West. Dialogue: 0,0:16:05.00,0:16:08.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And it's the subject of a huge debate Dialogue: 0,0:16:08.00,0:16:11.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,about what this cylinder means, what Cyrus means, Dialogue: 0,0:16:11.00,0:16:14.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but above all, Cyrus as articulated through this cylinder -- Dialogue: 0,0:16:14.00,0:16:17.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Cyrus as the defender of the homeland, Dialogue: 0,0:16:17.00,0:16:19.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the champion, of course, of Iranian identity Dialogue: 0,0:16:19.00,0:16:21.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and of the Iranian peoples, Dialogue: 0,0:16:21.00,0:16:23.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,tolerant of all faiths. Dialogue: 0,0:16:23.00,0:16:25.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And in the current Iran, Dialogue: 0,0:16:25.00,0:16:28.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Zoroastrians and Christians have guaranteed places Dialogue: 0,0:16:28.00,0:16:31.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,in the Iranian parliament, something to be very, very proud of. Dialogue: 0,0:16:31.00,0:16:34.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,To see this object in Tehran, Dialogue: 0,0:16:34.00,0:16:36.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,thousands of Jews living in Iran Dialogue: 0,0:16:36.00,0:16:38.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,came to Tehran to see it. Dialogue: 0,0:16:38.00,0:16:40.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It became a great emblem, Dialogue: 0,0:16:40.00,0:16:42.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,a great subject of debate Dialogue: 0,0:16:42.00,0:16:45.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,about what Iran is at home and abroad. Dialogue: 0,0:16:45.00,0:16:48.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Is Iran still to be the defender of the oppressed? Dialogue: 0,0:16:48.00,0:16:50.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Will Iran set free the people Dialogue: 0,0:16:50.00,0:16:53.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that the tyrants have enslaved and expropriated? Dialogue: 0,0:16:53.00,0:16:56.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,This is heady national rhetoric, Dialogue: 0,0:16:56.00,0:16:58.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and it was all put together Dialogue: 0,0:16:58.00,0:17:00.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,in a great pageant Dialogue: 0,0:17:00.00,0:17:02.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,launching the return. Dialogue: 0,0:17:02.00,0:17:05.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Here you see this out-sized Cyrus cylinder on the stage Dialogue: 0,0:17:05.00,0:17:08.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,with great figures from Iranian history Dialogue: 0,0:17:08.00,0:17:10.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,gathering to take their place Dialogue: 0,0:17:10.00,0:17:13.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,in the heritage of Iran. Dialogue: 0,0:17:13.00,0:17:15.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It was a narrative presented Dialogue: 0,0:17:15.00,0:17:18.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,by the president himself. Dialogue: 0,0:17:18.00,0:17:20.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And for me, Dialogue: 0,0:17:20.00,0:17:22.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to take this object to Iran, Dialogue: 0,0:17:22.00,0:17:24.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to be allowed to take this object to Iran Dialogue: 0,0:17:24.00,0:17:26.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,was to be allowed to be part Dialogue: 0,0:17:26.00,0:17:28.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,of an extraordinary debate Dialogue: 0,0:17:28.00,0:17:30.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,led at the highest levels Dialogue: 0,0:17:30.00,0:17:32.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,about what Iran is, Dialogue: 0,0:17:32.00,0:17:35.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,what different Irans there are Dialogue: 0,0:17:35.00,0:17:37.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and how the different histories of Iran Dialogue: 0,0:17:37.00,0:17:40.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,might shape the world today. Dialogue: 0,0:17:40.00,0:17:43.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It's a debate that's still continuing, Dialogue: 0,0:17:43.00,0:17:45.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and it will continue to rumble, Dialogue: 0,0:17:45.00,0:17:47.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,because this object Dialogue: 0,0:17:47.00,0:17:49.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,is one of the great declarations Dialogue: 0,0:17:49.00,0:17:51.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,of a human aspiration. Dialogue: 0,0:17:51.00,0:17:55.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It stands with the American constitution. Dialogue: 0,0:17:55.00,0:17:58.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It certainly says far more about real freedoms Dialogue: 0,0:17:58.00,0:18:00.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,than Magna Carta. Dialogue: 0,0:18:00.00,0:18:03.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It is a document that can mean so many things, Dialogue: 0,0:18:03.00,0:18:06.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,for Iran and for the region. Dialogue: 0,0:18:06.00,0:18:08.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,A replica of this Dialogue: 0,0:18:08.00,0:18:10.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,is at the United Nations. Dialogue: 0,0:18:10.00,0:18:13.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,In New York this autumn, it will be present Dialogue: 0,0:18:13.00,0:18:15.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,when the great debates Dialogue: 0,0:18:15.00,0:18:18.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,about the future of the Middle East take place. Dialogue: 0,0:18:18.00,0:18:20.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And I want to finish by asking you Dialogue: 0,0:18:20.00,0:18:22.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,what the next story will be Dialogue: 0,0:18:22.00,0:18:24.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,in which this object figures. Dialogue: 0,0:18:24.00,0:18:26.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It will appear, certainly, Dialogue: 0,0:18:26.00,0:18:28.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,in many more Middle Eastern stories. Dialogue: 0,0:18:28.00,0:18:30.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And what story of the Middle East, Dialogue: 0,0:18:30.00,0:18:32.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,what story of the world, Dialogue: 0,0:18:32.00,0:18:34.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,do you want to see Dialogue: 0,0:18:34.00,0:18:36.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,reflecting what is said, Dialogue: 0,0:18:36.00,0:18:38.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,what is expressed in this cylinder? Dialogue: 0,0:18:38.00,0:18:40.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The right of peoples Dialogue: 0,0:18:40.00,0:18:42.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to live together in the same state, Dialogue: 0,0:18:42.00,0:18:44.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,worshiping differently, freely -- Dialogue: 0,0:18:44.00,0:18:46.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,a Middle East, a world, Dialogue: 0,0:18:46.00,0:18:48.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,in which religion is not the subject of division Dialogue: 0,0:18:48.00,0:18:51.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,or of debate. Dialogue: 0,0:18:51.00,0:18:54.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,In the world of the Middle East at the moment, Dialogue: 0,0:18:54.00,0:18:57.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the debates are, as you know, shrill. Dialogue: 0,0:18:57.00,0:18:59.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But I think it's possible Dialogue: 0,0:18:59.00,0:19:03.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that the most powerful and the wisest voice of all of them Dialogue: 0,0:19:03.00,0:19:05.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,may well be the voice Dialogue: 0,0:19:05.00,0:19:07.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,of this mute thing, Dialogue: 0,0:19:07.00,0:19:09.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the Cyrus cylinder. Dialogue: 0,0:19:09.00,0:19:11.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Thank you. Dialogue: 0,0:19:11.00,0:19:15.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,(Applause)