[Script Info] Title: [Events] Format: Layer, Start, End, Style, Name, MarginL, MarginR, MarginV, Effect, Text Dialogue: 0,0:00:00.49,0:00:02.19,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,We were talking during the meal Dialogue: 0,0:00:02.19,0:00:03.83,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,about the issue of lying, Dialogue: 0,0:00:03.83,0:00:06.65,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and is there ever a reason for a Christian Dialogue: 0,0:00:06.65,0:00:09.25,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to lie, like to save a life Dialogue: 0,0:00:09.25,0:00:14.27,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,or things like that, because there's situations Dialogue: 0,0:00:14.27,0:00:17.31,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,in the Old Testament like Rahab or Dialogue: 0,0:00:17.31,0:00:22.49,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,other people lying and it seems as though Dialogue: 0,0:00:22.49,0:00:24.45,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,good things happened as a result of that. Dialogue: 0,0:00:24.45,0:00:26.98,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So is there ever a reason Dialogue: 0,0:00:26.98,0:00:32.34,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,or would it ever be ok for a Christian to lie today? Dialogue: 0,0:00:32.34,0:00:35.12,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Well, first of all, the fact that good things happen Dialogue: 0,0:00:35.12,0:00:36.73,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,because of something doesn't mean anything Dialogue: 0,0:00:36.73,0:00:39.16,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,about whether it's right or wrong. Dialogue: 0,0:00:39.16,0:00:40.68,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,There are a number of passages Dialogue: 0,0:00:40.68,0:00:46.50,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,in the Old Testament that raise questions. Dialogue: 0,0:00:46.50,0:00:50.32,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I think that it's a very risky thing Dialogue: 0,0:00:50.32,0:00:53.06,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to start talking about lying being right Dialogue: 0,0:00:53.06,0:00:56.24,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,in a situation because it has to do Dialogue: 0,0:00:56.24,0:01:00.31,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,with my integrity and my character. Dialogue: 0,0:01:00.31,0:01:01.96,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Would God lie to me? Dialogue: 0,0:01:01.96,0:01:04.87,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,If it's acceptable, then God might lie to me Dialogue: 0,0:01:04.87,0:01:08.47,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,in order to accomplish a greater good. Dialogue: 0,0:01:08.47,0:01:11.14,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I don't think we have to take it Dialogue: 0,0:01:11.14,0:01:14.73,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that God condoned Rahab's lie, Dialogue: 0,0:01:14.73,0:01:17.91,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but rather that He condoned her faith. Dialogue: 0,0:01:17.91,0:01:20.86,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And so, I'd be very cautious about that. Dialogue: 0,0:01:20.86,0:01:23.92,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,You get into all kinds of issues Dialogue: 0,0:01:23.92,0:01:26.97,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,because you have things like Dialogue: 0,0:01:26.97,0:01:28.45,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,you leave a light on in the house, Dialogue: 0,0:01:28.45,0:01:30.49,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,you're trying to make people think you're home, Dialogue: 0,0:01:30.49,0:01:32.39,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but you're not. Dialogue: 0,0:01:32.39,0:01:36.41,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,A general does a diversionary tactic Dialogue: 0,0:01:36.41,0:01:38.63,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,trying to make the enemy think that he's Dialogue: 0,0:01:38.63,0:01:40.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,doing such-and-such; Dialogue: 0,0:01:40.00,0:01:42.43,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,actually, he's deceiving them. Dialogue: 0,0:01:42.43,0:01:44.35,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And when a soldier's taken in battle, Dialogue: 0,0:01:44.35,0:01:49.67,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,is he under obligation to tell the truth? Dialogue: 0,0:01:49.67,0:01:51.100,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Some argue that wherever Dialogue: 0,0:01:51.100,0:01:55.86,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,there's a covenant of truth between people, Dialogue: 0,0:01:55.86,0:01:57.81,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that's where there's an Dialogue: 0,0:01:57.81,0:01:59.63,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,obligation to tell the truth. Dialogue: 0,0:01:59.63,0:02:01.41,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So in other words, I ought to expect Dialogue: 0,0:02:01.41,0:02:05.35,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,an enemy soldier not to have to tell me the truth. Dialogue: 0,0:02:05.35,0:02:08.50,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So I don't know if there's any validity to that or not. Dialogue: 0,0:02:08.50,0:02:12.93,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It seems to me that in light of the character of God, Dialogue: 0,0:02:12.93,0:02:15.68,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that He is a God of truth. Dialogue: 0,0:02:15.68,0:02:19.05,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Most of those questions where you bring up Dialogue: 0,0:02:19.05,0:02:21.34,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,is it right to lie... Dialogue: 0,0:02:21.34,0:02:23.18,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and that comes up in ethics classes Dialogue: 0,0:02:23.18,0:02:25.02,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and stuff like that; Dialogue: 0,0:02:25.02,0:02:27.21,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,almost always those classes are designed in Dialogue: 0,0:02:27.21,0:02:30.74,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,such a way not to help you to understand better Dialogue: 0,0:02:30.74,0:02:33.20,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,what you should do, but to undermine your faith Dialogue: 0,0:02:33.20,0:02:35.74,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,in right and wrong entirely. Dialogue: 0,0:02:35.74,0:02:39.24,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And they never bring in the vertical of God being there, Dialogue: 0,0:02:39.24,0:02:42.11,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,they always are on the horizontal level. Dialogue: 0,0:02:42.11,0:02:44.83,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And a lot of times whenever you see the Lord's answers Dialogue: 0,0:02:44.83,0:02:47.84,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to questions, somebody will ask Him a question Dialogue: 0,0:02:47.84,0:02:49.95,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and they'll set up the ground that the battle Dialogue: 0,0:02:49.95,0:02:52.34,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,is to be fought on, Dialogue: 0,0:02:52.34,0:02:54.15,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and if you do that you're going to lose. Dialogue: 0,0:02:54.15,0:02:55.50,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And the Lord would answer - Dialogue: 0,0:02:55.50,0:02:57.13,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,it said Jesus answered and said, Dialogue: 0,0:02:57.13,0:02:58.39,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and it's clear over here somewhere Dialogue: 0,0:02:58.39,0:03:01.59,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that doesn't even seem to relate to the question. Dialogue: 0,0:03:01.59,0:03:04.73,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,A lot of times the devil tries Dialogue: 0,0:03:04.73,0:03:06.63,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to set us in situations where, Dialogue: 0,0:03:06.63,0:03:08.64,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,you know, well, look you've got to sin. Dialogue: 0,0:03:08.64,0:03:11.35,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,No, you don't. Dialogue: 0,0:03:11.35,0:03:15.40,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,There are many, many things like that. Dialogue: 0,0:03:15.40,0:03:19.91,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Do you have to tell the Germans about the Jews Dialogue: 0,0:03:19.91,0:03:23.70,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,hiding in your house and things like that. Dialogue: 0,0:03:23.70,0:03:26.10,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I think probably what would happen to me Dialogue: 0,0:03:26.10,0:03:29.27,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,is that I'd be killed before too long, Dialogue: 0,0:03:29.27,0:03:33.34,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,because the idea of lying about something, Dialogue: 0,0:03:33.34,0:03:35.10,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,you might be able to say something like Dialogue: 0,0:03:35.10,0:03:37.83,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,search and see or something like that. Dialogue: 0,0:03:37.83,0:03:41.53,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,You know, Corrie Ten Boom's sister strongly believed Dialogue: 0,0:03:41.53,0:03:44.05,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that you should not lie. Dialogue: 0,0:03:44.05,0:03:47.38,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,They had a trap door under the table, Dialogue: 0,0:03:47.38,0:03:49.62,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and her brothers hid in that trap door Dialogue: 0,0:03:49.62,0:03:51.98,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,when the Germans came. Dialogue: 0,0:03:51.98,0:03:54.08,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,They had a rug over the trap door Dialogue: 0,0:03:54.08,0:03:56.45,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and then a table sitting on it. Dialogue: 0,0:03:56.45,0:03:58.72,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And they said, "where are your brothers?" Dialogue: 0,0:03:58.72,0:04:00.52,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,She said, "They're under the table." Dialogue: 0,0:04:00.52,0:04:02.32,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,They looked under there and said, Dialogue: 0,0:04:02.32,0:04:04.61,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,"don't play games with us." Dialogue: 0,0:04:04.61,0:04:06.59,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Well, actually, they were under the table. Dialogue: 0,0:04:06.59,0:04:10.13,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,God protected them. Dialogue: 0,0:04:10.13,0:04:14.61,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But it's not always that way either. Dialogue: 0,0:04:14.61,0:04:17.100,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I'm not going to be much help on that one. Dialogue: 0,0:04:17.100,0:04:21.37,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I think there are times when we can avoid Dialogue: 0,0:04:21.37,0:04:22.95,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,saying everything. Dialogue: 0,0:04:22.95,0:04:26.90,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I don't think we have to say everything.