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Shalom to all of you from
Israel. My name is Sarah

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Gamesa. I'm the director of
the Christian friends of

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yours a shame. We're about
to start the lecture, the

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second lecture lecture in
the series, life hating hope

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that we're doing in
cooperation with the ICJ.

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Before we start. I want to
welcome Dr. Jaime author,

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the new director of the
Christian friends of Yad

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Vashem was so kindly joined
us this evening, this

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evening in Israel today in
the United States and

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Canada. I also want to take
this opportunity to thank

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our partners on this very
special webinar series. That

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just was in May called ICJ
using director This is Donna

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Holbrook, ICJ, Canada,
National Executive Director,

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and Reverend Merkel's ICJ,
Vice President of

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International Affairs,
before I present our

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lecture, for today, to
technicalities. This lecture

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will be recorded, and we
will send you the recording

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in a couple of weeks. If you
have questions during the

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lecture, please write them
in the chat and my colleague

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Chevette will gather the
questions and present them

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to relevant heading after
the lecture. Today we're

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honored to have with us as
our guest lecturer, Rick

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Malcolm Hemingway, I think
most of you if not all of

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you know, who will teach us
about the history of anti

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semitism. Welcome heading is
an ordained minister of the

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Assemblies of God of South
and Africa. Apart from being

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a church planter in his
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activism on behalf of Israel
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began in 1975 when he joined
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he became involved with the
international Christian

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embassy Jerusalem, and in
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the executive director of
international pushing

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embassy Gerson a position
that he held up until the

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end of 2011. He has traveled
all over the world defending

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Israel, in forms of all
types, and with Shaya benu,

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the former director of the
international relations of

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Yad Vashem is the co founder
of the Christian desk, at

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yard ocean river heading,
his present present lives in

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Israel. And we're very happy
to have him here with us.

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Reverend telling, as I'm a
Jewish Israeli, they grew up

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with the knowledge that a
lot of the centuries there

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has always been anti
semitism in the fall. When

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we learn history in school,
we spoke and we learned

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about the different anti
semitic events that took

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place, different places in
the world, throughout the

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years. But we never spoke
about the why as

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Christianity is origins are
in Judaism, I would like to

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ask you, how did Christian
anti semitism come to be?

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Well, thank you so much.
Sorry, it's a great joy, and

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Welcome, everybody. It's a
great pleasure and a great

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blessing to see you all many
old friends. And that's a

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very intriguing question.
And of course, it's the

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subject of our debate today
the history of Christian

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anti semitism. And in order
to answer that question, I

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would like to share my
screen with you. And then we

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will dive into our subject
for today. And there we have

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it, the history of Christian
anti semitism. We get to go

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through the various
centuries together and build

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a picture that is absolutely
true. It is substantiated

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historically, and everything
in the lecture has been

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double checked. So this is
the history of Christian

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anti semitism. And the
reason why Israeli children

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are educated and brought, as
it were up to date on this

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issue, and it's a very, very
important one, and every

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Christian should know it.
We're going to begin by what

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we call the seeds of
discontent or the first

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century and here we have to
address what I call a

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complex situation. In the
Roman Empire dictated what

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religions were legal, and
which were not, the Jews of

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the Empire had reached an
agreement with Rome, whereby

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Judaism was designated
legal. They needed to

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preserve the status in the
interests of the well being

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of the people in Israel and
of course, throughout the

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Empire. They were therefore
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religio, Lissa TA, meaning
they will legal, and then be

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while they had differences
with Jesus theologically.

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That's true.

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And we see this mirrored in
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and time again, the issue of
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was paramount in their minds
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their rejection of Jesus
messianic credentials. This

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led to the resistance of the
message carried by the early

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church. Paul enters the
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church as a zealous
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And of course, as you know,
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the history of Jewish
resistance against the

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growing early church. But I
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from john chapter 11. And
verses 47 to 50. And it

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reads like this, then the
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Pharisees gathered a council
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for this man works many
signs. If we let him alone

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like this, everyone will
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Romans. There you have this
issue will come and take

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away both our place and our
nation. In other words, they

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would lose the status of
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one of them Caiaphas. Being
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to them, You know nothing at
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that it is expedient for us
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the people and not the whole
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this issue of Judaism's
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governing Roman authorities
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their minds and in their
thinking. So, while this

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resistance was well
organized, it was never on

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the scale of mass murder, or
genocide. In fact, it can be

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said that the early churches
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the Roman Empire, as the
Christians were perceived as

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serving a king, an emperor
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therefore they were religio
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religious movement of the
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illegal. And we know the
various prosecutions, which

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the early church went
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various Caesars, beginning
with Nero. Then we come to

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point to the destruction of
Jerusalem in 70, ce II, and

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135. These events the fact
that Jerusalem was laid

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waste, and the Jewish people
were exiled in 70, and 135.

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These events reinforced
Christian resentment against

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the Jews in that it appeared
to validate God's rejection

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of them. In their minds, the
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The idea then that they were
Christ killers found freedom

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to be expressed, even though
it was not true from the

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biblical account. Secondly,
be in terms of the

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destruction of Jerusalem in
the two dates that are

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given. These events produced
a concept of having to do

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with a new understanding of
Kingdom. What is the kingdom

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of God? That is the Jewish
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coming literal messianic
kingdom was challenged and

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reinterpreted in violation
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the allegorical method of
expounding the Bible was

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introduced by church leaders
like Oregon, so any passage

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of the Hebrew Scriptures
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canon had not yet been
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But any reference then to a
physical manifestation of

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the kingdom of God from
Jerusalem was resisted by

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the church. And they said,
in fact that the scriptures

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didn't mean that, that you
had to spiritualize that and

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give it a different
interpretation. We won't go

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into what that means today.

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30 then see Israel being
totally vanquished as a

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nation and sent into exile
was considered a relic of

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the past. And the idea that
the church had replaced her

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was now the new Israel of
God was beginning to emerge.

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So this picture of utter
destruction, beginning in 70

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ad, culminating at the end
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135, that gave the
impression to many in the

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church, that the Jewish
people had truly been

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cursed, that they've been
done away with that God had

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visited judgment upon them.
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church alone was now the new
Israel of God. Then we have

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second generation, church
leaders. So the first

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generation of church leaders
passed off the scene. And we

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have their successes. And
they began to sow the seeds

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of hatred for the Jews in
their sermons and teachings.

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This would set the stage for
the acceptance of what we

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now call Historically, the
doctrine of contempt in

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years to come by the
Catholic Church. And this

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doctrine of contempt, would
assert that God kept the

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Jews alive only as an
example of his enduring

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judgment, and Roth, that is
essentially the doctrine of

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contempt. And also, in the
second generation, we see

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the beginnings of preachers,
vilifying synagogues, as

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houses of devils, and
brothels. And thirdly, the

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second generation church
leaders began to paint the

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Jews as killers of God, they
accused them of deicide, and

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therefore, beyond
redemption. And these are

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all the seeds of what we
call the doctrine of

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contempt that was
progressively developed from

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this period onwards. And
that is important for us to

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understand today. And then
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of the second generation of
church leaders, they began

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to codify the idea that the
church alone was the Israel

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of God. So those are the
things that happened in the

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second generation. Also,
following on their heels and

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a bit later, we have our
fourth point, that anti the

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anti semitic church leaders
beatified by church by the

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church as saints. And he
said my church leaders

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beatified by the church as
saints. And this is a record

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of just a few of them what
they said, and we need to

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note who they were and the
statements they made. We

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have Justin Martyr, in 140.
asserted that the law was

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given to the Jews. That is
the law that is going right

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back to Sinai to the Exodus.
The law was given to the

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Jews as a punishment. He
frequently vilified them, in

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his sermons to Italian, said
that synagogues were

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fountains of persecution,
Oregon, wrote, The Jews have

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committed the most
abominable crimes. St.

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Gregory of nicer stated that
Jews are companions of the

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devil, race of vipers and a
Sanhedrin of demons. St.

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Ambrose wrote the synagogue
is a place dammed by God

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Himself. St. Augustine
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admits and knows that Jewish
people are to be cursed. Son

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john Christ's atone called
the synagogue, a brothel and

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theater sincero of
Alexandria, had Jews

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expelled from his city. So
these are what some of the

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well known Church Fathers
began to say, during the

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second third century period.
And the question we have to

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ask ourselves then, is why
did the second generation of

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church fathers become so
antagonistic to the Jewish

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people? Interesting
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And the answer to that
question is, of course, by

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that time. And given the the
events that took place in

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70, ad, and 135, there was
the culture ized thinking in

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the church, that the Jews
had been thoroughly judged,

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and chiefly because of the
rejection of Jesus. Then the

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answer to that question also
lies in the fact that the

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Christian scriptures, the
canon of the New Testament,

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had not yet been validated,
or formalized, so that there

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was no canon of Scripture by
which these leaders could

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test their statements, or
their theories. And if they

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had actually received the
canon of Scripture, I mean,

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many of the letters were
circulating, but there was

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no formal validation of the
canon of Scripture. So if

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they had been, they would
not have said the things

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that they had said, because
many passages, in fact,

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major passages of the New
Testament canon, teach

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otherwise. And just Romans
910 and 11, are remarkable

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in the validation and the
affirming that Paul gives to

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Israel, the continuance of
God's covenant with them,

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and the statement that they
are beloved of God for the

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sake of their fathers. And
has God rejected these

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people, no, Perish the
thought, he says. And

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because there was no
parameters by which to

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regulate these people, they
began to express these very

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sad, anti semitic views of
Jewish people. That brings

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us to the fifth century
onwards, by this time, Rome

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had emerged as the most
influential seat of the

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church, and this largely
because of Rome's dominant

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place in the Empire. In
addition, because of the

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triumph of the church in
312, by the conversion, so

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called, of the Emperor
Constantine, the Catholic

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Church became established,
the canon of the New

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Testament was confirmed, and
a legitimate body of

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theology was set in place,
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famously what we call the
Nicene Creed. And to this

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day, the Nicene Creed is
repeated in many churches as

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an act of worship. It sets
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creed, the basic
foundational beliefs of the

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Christian Church, the Nicene
Creed, has nothing to say,

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in fact, about the Jewish
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Catholic Church in no way
resembled what it has become

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today, as its teachings and
thinking was still

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primitive. But one thing
remained, and that was its

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antipathy toward the Jews.
And this reinforced its

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doctrine of contempt. So at
this period, this doctrine

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of contempt was beginning to
get a foothold in the

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Catholic Church. I just want
to say this is no intention

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intended address to vilify
the Catholic Church in any

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way. It's just historically
true. These are the

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historical facts of
Christian anti semitism. And

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then a cauterized hatred and
despising of the Jews had

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taken root in many
communities throughout

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Europe, from the fifth
century onwards. This is

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very important to understand
because once an issue is

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culture arised in a
community, this is very

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important folk, if we're
going to challenge anti

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semitism today. Once

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an issue is culture arised
in a community, it becomes

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very hard to remove and its
impact. It impacts

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generations to come. You can
imagine my shock of this app

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actually happened in
Murfreesboro. When recently

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in a prayer meeting, a man
got up requesting prayer.

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Because as he put it, he had
been Jude by a fellow

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Christian businessman. So he
wasn't even referring to the

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Jews. And he wasn't in any
way making a statement about

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his interaction with the
Jewish community. Indeed, he

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was talking about how a
fellow Christian had cheated

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him. But you can see from
that statement, that he

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conveyed the thought that
actually, if someone does

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you in, you've been Jude,
the Jewish people are

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cheats, and crooks, and they
will do you in. And this is

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what he said in a prayer
meeting. And when I

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challenged him afterwards,
in fact, he repented of it.

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But when I challenged him, I
found out from him and

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others, that this was a
fairly regular type of

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proverb. In the community,
it had been culture arised.

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And so while this fellow
actually had a real love for

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Israel, he just wasn't
thinking he conveyed

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something.

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That was awful. But he
didn't think about it,

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because he grew up with it.

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And so we had to repent of
it. And then, of course, be

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in the fifth century
onwards, there was a Cody

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FIDE warning to desist from
having any relationships

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with Jews, was put in place.
See, Jews began to be blamed

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for natural disasters,
plagues, and other

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misfortunes in countries.
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would state the Jews are our
misfortune. So previously,

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they were blamed for
misfortunes, whether this

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that disasters plays. But by
the time you get to the

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Nazis, the Jews themselves
are our misfortune. It just

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demonstrates how these anti
semitic things get rooted in

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lives. And as I said, they
become culture arised. So

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Christians began to accuse
Jews of killing their

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children in Passover
rituals, or poisoning the

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water wells, etc. In the
fifth century onwards, this

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type of libel, and by the
way, it continues to this

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day, even concerning covid
19, can you believe it, the

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Jews are somehow behind it.
And it's terrible. These are

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cultural things that have
taken root in communities

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and Christian communities.
through the centuries, Jews

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were limited to certain
professions and herded into

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designated living areas. And
so the phenomenon of the

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Jewish ghetto began to
emerge. So that's what you

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have, from the fifth century
onwards, and it's not good.

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And then we come to the
Middle Ages, Jewish

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communities actually began
to flourish in the Middle

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Ages, in countries like
Germany, France, and

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England, and Jews, by virtue
of their love of books,

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learning, and diligence,
began to occupy places of

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influence and importance,
and indeed, many became

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wealthy. This angered the
locals who were infused with

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jealousy, which in turn,
ignited the age old

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accusations of being Christ
killers and abominable to

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God. All of this inevitably
led to expulsions and

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restrictions. And so they
were expelled from England,

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in 1290, from France in
1306. And from Spain in

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1492. In many places like
Spain, they could avoid

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expulsion, only by means of
forced conversions to the

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Christian faith. In some
situations like that of the

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Spanish Inquisition. The
failure to convert was made

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with torture and execution.
And then we come to the

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Crusades. That is, we
talking from 1096 to 1188 of

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the Common Era, the rise of
Islam in the eighth century,

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and it sweeps through the
Middle East. North Africa

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and Eastern Europe, along
the Christian world because

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the Muslims had occupied the
Holy Land and began to lay

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waste the holy Christian
sites, including those of

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Jerusalem. They were
perceived as the enemies of

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God, and therefore had to be
removed from these

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consequently, Pope Urban the
second, called for an armed

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resistance to the Muslims,
and raised an army of 30,000

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men to undertake it. This
was called the First

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Crusade.

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Sadly, by this time, the
Jews had been so vilified in

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Europe and beyond that they
were all perceived as the

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enemies of God as well. And
thus, on the way to the Holy

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Land, the Crusader army
planted and massacred the

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Jews of peyer worms and
ments in Germany and many

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other places with
enthusiastic help of the

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local peasantry, the
testimony, the testimonies,

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my friends in this regard,
are simply awful. And if you

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read them, it's absolutely
dreadful. What they did to

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the Jewish communities in
Europe as they moved toward

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the Holy Land. When the
Crusaders finally conquered

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Jerusalem, they herded the
Jews into the great

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synagogue and burned it
down. All the while they

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stood outside shouting,
Christ, we adore the the

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First Crusade was followed
by two more that took place

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in 1147, and 1188. Sadly,
the Jews in mind, they

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target and the idea of these
crusades has remained in

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Christian thinking and
practice up until our time,

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in that many great outdoor
evangelistic meetings are

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advertised advertised as
crusades. Now, there's

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nothing wrong with these, by
the way. But it's just a

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leftover. It's like this
culture, right thing, again,

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that reaches into history
reaches into the future. So

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that's something that was so
terrible in his destruction

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of the Jewish people in
Europe, in terms of the

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Crusader armies that move
through to the Holy Land has

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been sort of taken up as a
Christian way of thinking

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when it comes to having
great meetings, like Billy

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Graham and many others, and
there's nothing wrong with

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that. There's nothing anti
semitic in them. They just

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wonderful big Christian
meetings around the world,

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but it's just a point that
I'm making about how

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something gets culture
arised. And we use it easily

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not thinking of its original
implications. Also, it was

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in 1215, that the Catholic
Church came up with the idea

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that the Jews should be
recognized by a special

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dress code. Nearly 750 years
later, Hitler considered

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this an appropriate manner
by which to identify the

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Jews. And that brings us to
our eighth point in our

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presentation today, and that
is the Reformation. Martin

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Luther his attempt to reform
the Catholic Church, though

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failed, that, in fact, spark
and amazing revival of

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biblical truth that led to
the establishment of the

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protesting churches,
otherwise known as

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Protestants. So his attempt
at inwardly reforming the

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Catholic Church actually
failed. The Catholic Church

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closed against his suggested
theses that he hammered on

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the door and, and forced
many of the Christians who

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were longing for major
change. And, as we call it,

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reformation, to leave the
church and set up these

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protesting churches, which
today, we call Protestants.

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This was an evangelical
revival, with an emphasis on

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sola scriptura. In other
words, the Word of God only.

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And that is that the church
should only be built on what

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the Bible of both testaments
has to teach us and nothing

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else. The Bible only the
benefit to the Jewish world

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in this regard should not be
under estimated. That's

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important. The benefit to
the Jewish world in this

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regard should not be
underestimated, even though

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Luther in his latter years
became an anti Semite,

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because it leaves People
back to the Bible, which

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placed the Jews in a very
different light to that

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which the Catholic Church
had presented them. And a

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number of things, aided
this, first of all, the

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invention in 1492, of the
printing press. So here for

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the first time,

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the Bible could be placed in
the hands of the common

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people. So, the translation
of the Bible into the

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language of the common
people, by people like

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Wickliffe, Tyndale, and has,
all of which were tortured

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and killed by the Catholics.
But this suddenly opened up

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the Word of God, to so many
people that had never read

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it or even set eyes upon it
before the founding of the

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printing press. And this
also led to the birthing of

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independent evangelical
churches that began to

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embrace the Jews with love
and appreciation. And this

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is absolutely important for
us to understand in the

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light of Christian anti
semitism, that once the Word

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of God got into the hands of
the common man, attitudes

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began to change rapidly.
Having said this, however,

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Luther who was deeply
indebted to Jewish rabbis,

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for his expositions of the
Hebrew Scriptures eventually

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turned against them. And in
his book against the Jews

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and the lies, he advocated
for their destruction,

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abuse, expulsion, and
vilification. Indeed, Luther

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called the papacy nervous
referring to the papacy to

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the Pope, but the whole
structure he called it the

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devil's synagogue, which
carried awful associations.

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Concerning the Jews, of
course, another culture

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arised issue, you see how
important this cultural

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issue is, that you can refer
to something else as an

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abomination. But in doing
so, you use anti semitic

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terminology that continues
to place the Jewish people

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in a bad light. Naturally,
these writings eventually

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found their way into the
Lutheran Church of Germany

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and thus, again, infected
the people with a disdain

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and hatred of the Jews, the
culture is zation of Jew

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hatred continued, and would
have an awful would have

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awful consequences for the
Jews. In the 20th century,

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it's important for us to
know that this issue, my

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friends, of anti semitic
culturalization, has to be

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taken on the nation of
Germany would easily accept

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Hitler's rantings against
the Jews, and turned a blind

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eye to their abuse and
murder. on an industrial

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scale, that's how serious
this issue became. So we

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have another question. Where
did Martin Luther go wrong?

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Well, first of all, let's
say this, that he did bring

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a remarkable transformation
to the churches doctrinal

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positions. And he, in terms
of the church, restored the

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foundational teaching, which
is justification by faith.

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But you have to understand
that contextually, he came

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out of the Catholic Church,
contextually, he knew of the

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doctrine of contempt,
contextually, he had this

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whole thing of anti
Jewishness and the

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culturalization of that, and
in repealing many false

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doctrinal positions, he
never went far enough. And,

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in fact, it's true that he
did not embrace the doctrine

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of contempt eventually, but
he did see the Jewish people

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as a rejected nation because
he bought into what we call

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reformed or replacement
theology. The church for him

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was the Israel of God,
period. So this is is where

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Luther went wrong. But of
course, he did ignite

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something that was quite
incredible. And that was

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sola scriptura. And that
brings us to our ninth

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point, pogroms
restorationists and pyatters

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of the 16th century and
beyond.

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While Jews were still held
in contempt by the Catholic

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Church, and some Protestant
churches, the seeds of a new

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day were being sold by a,
the pious artistic movements

462
00:35:36,120 --> 00:35:40,950
of Germany, Scandinavia, and
England. So have you ever

463
00:35:40,950 --> 00:35:44,310
heard of the moravians, the
Moravian Church, the

464
00:35:44,310 --> 00:35:48,870
Moravian missionary church,
it had more people in the

465
00:35:48,870 --> 00:35:51,960
four corners of the earth
than they did, actually,

466
00:35:52,080 --> 00:35:55,230
eventually, in Germany, they
fled from the Czech

467
00:35:55,230 --> 00:35:58,500
Republic, or it's called
that today. And they ended

468
00:35:58,500 --> 00:36:04,320
up in Germany, and they call
on the people, to love the

469
00:36:04,320 --> 00:36:08,280
Jewish people and to pray
for them. These are

470
00:36:08,280 --> 00:36:14,970
remarkable movements. And
then you have industry God,

471
00:36:15,000 --> 00:36:19,230
the Puritans of England,
they were responsible for

472
00:36:19,230 --> 00:36:22,800
the famous King James
Version of the Bible, the

473
00:36:22,800 --> 00:36:26,790
most beautiful translation
of the Bible, ever done, and

474
00:36:26,790 --> 00:36:29,640
ever will be done, nothing
will ever compare with it.

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00:36:30,180 --> 00:36:32,910
That is the King James
Version of the Bible, they

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00:36:32,910 --> 00:36:37,740
actually spoke Hebrew. And
once in power, they reversed

477
00:36:37,740 --> 00:36:43,260
the expulsion of the Jews
from the country in 1290.

478
00:36:43,890 --> 00:36:46,830
They were destined to become
the founding fathers of

479
00:36:46,830 --> 00:36:52,020
America. And people don't
know it, but it's absolutely

480
00:36:52,020 --> 00:36:57,720
true. When they founded the
original States of America,

481
00:36:57,720 --> 00:37:02,010
the pilgrim fathers, they
actually wanted the official

482
00:37:02,010 --> 00:37:06,120
language of this new
founding entity to be

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00:37:06,120 --> 00:37:11,010
Hebrew. They so much love
the Jewish people, and the

484
00:37:11,010 --> 00:37:15,510
Hebrew language, but they
gave birth to a nation that

485
00:37:15,510 --> 00:37:19,080
has given remarkable
freedom, refuge and equal

486
00:37:19,080 --> 00:37:23,850
standing to the Jewish
people. So this is a

487
00:37:23,850 --> 00:37:28,380
remarkable story that comes
directly out of the

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00:37:28,380 --> 00:37:33,570
reformation, that birth,
this idea of the Bible only.

489
00:37:34,290 --> 00:37:39,810
And these groups went
further, then Luther, and

490
00:37:39,960 --> 00:37:43,530
rejected anti semitism, you
have the wisdom and revival

491
00:37:43,530 --> 00:37:46,800
that eventually would spread
to all the world, which was

492
00:37:46,800 --> 00:37:53,100
sympathetic to the Jewish
people. And its leaders even

493
00:37:53,100 --> 00:37:56,010
advocated for the
restoration to the land of

494
00:37:56,040 --> 00:38:00,390
Israel. Charles wisely the
great hymn writer, wrote

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00:38:00,390 --> 00:38:05,160
hymns, in fact, about the
return of the Jewish people

496
00:38:06,000 --> 00:38:08,700
to the land of Israel,
because they saw it as a

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00:38:08,700 --> 00:38:12,420
biblical truth. They
understood the scriptures in

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00:38:12,420 --> 00:38:15,480
their context. They didn't
spiritualize them if they

499
00:38:15,480 --> 00:38:18,960
were literally in context,
they took it like that. And

500
00:38:18,960 --> 00:38:22,230
if they were spiritual, they
took it like that, but they

501
00:38:22,260 --> 00:38:30,690
were quite amazing. Then you
have many of the historical

502
00:38:30,690 --> 00:38:34,440
churches, however, remained
entrenched in the antipathy

503
00:38:34,440 --> 00:38:38,250
to the Jewish people, and
asserted what had now become

504
00:38:38,760 --> 00:38:42,810
replacement theology. This
sadly continues until this

505
00:38:42,810 --> 00:38:47,880
day, and is at the very
heart of organizations like

506
00:38:47,880 --> 00:38:50,310
the World Council of
Churches. In their

507
00:38:50,310 --> 00:38:53,040
continuing effort to
disinvest the Jews from

508
00:38:53,040 --> 00:38:59,100
Jerusalem and the biblical
homeland. They made the most

509
00:38:59,460 --> 00:39:04,650
vile anti semitic statements
recently. And that brings us

510
00:39:04,650 --> 00:39:11,850
to the 19th century. While
the restoration of England

511
00:39:11,850 --> 00:39:15,510
were calling for a Jewish
state in the Holy Land, in

512
00:39:15,510 --> 00:39:19,770
France, a famed French
military officer who had

513
00:39:19,770 --> 00:39:23,790
fought valiantly for his
country, was falsely accused

514
00:39:23,790 --> 00:39:31,080
in 1894 of passing military
secrets to Germany, even

515
00:39:31,080 --> 00:39:36,450
though everyone knew that he
was innocent, but he was a

516
00:39:36,450 --> 00:39:40,830
Jew. And so he became a
scapegoat. And his name was

517
00:39:41,010 --> 00:39:46,740
Captain Alfred Dreyfus. His
straw was covered by a

518
00:39:46,740 --> 00:39:54,420
Jewish journalist from piano
called Theodore hurtle. And

519
00:39:54,420 --> 00:39:59,010
he was so outraged that he
recognized that the hatred

520
00:39:59,010 --> 00:40:02,730
of the Jews in Europe was so
entrenched that his

521
00:40:02,730 --> 00:40:04,350
culturalization

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00:40:06,029 --> 00:40:09,839
that the Jews needed to
establish a stake in Israel

523
00:40:10,139 --> 00:40:13,709
as the only means by which
they would find refuge

524
00:40:13,709 --> 00:40:18,839
strength and continuity.
Dreyfus was wrongly

525
00:40:18,839 --> 00:40:23,069
convicted of treason, and
given a life sentence to be

526
00:40:23,069 --> 00:40:27,149
carried out on Devil's
Island in French Guiana.

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00:40:28,199 --> 00:40:33,539
hertzel then wrote the you
didn't start, that is the

528
00:40:33,539 --> 00:40:38,159
Jewish state, and became the
father of the modern day

529
00:40:38,189 --> 00:40:45,479
nation of Israel. That a
trial and conviction of an

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00:40:45,479 --> 00:40:48,389
innocent man could take
place only because he was

531
00:40:48,389 --> 00:40:54,179
Jewish, demonstrated how
deeply anti semitic anti

532
00:40:54,179 --> 00:40:58,889
semitism had penetrated
Christian France. And being

533
00:40:58,889 --> 00:41:03,029
a Catholic nation, the
doctrine of contempt

534
00:41:03,149 --> 00:41:09,149
perpetuated this important
to know that the doctrine of

535
00:41:09,149 --> 00:41:14,369
content perpetuated this
idea that the Jews only

536
00:41:14,369 --> 00:41:19,109
existed to be a people as an
example of the judgment and

537
00:41:19,109 --> 00:41:23,789
the curse of God. A
disturbing part of the 19th

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00:41:23,789 --> 00:41:29,609
century 1881 1906 was the
pogroms against the Jews

539
00:41:29,609 --> 00:41:33,539
that erupted in Russia.
These were savage and

540
00:41:33,539 --> 00:41:37,229
terrible, and carried out by
the Russian Orthodox Church

541
00:41:37,229 --> 00:41:42,239
was willing help, again from
the peasantry, on Christian

542
00:41:42,239 --> 00:41:45,599
feast days after going to
church, particularly on

543
00:41:45,629 --> 00:41:48,479
Easter that people would
rampage through Jewish

544
00:41:48,479 --> 00:41:52,769
communities plundering and
murdering at will. It was

545
00:41:52,769 --> 00:41:57,569
shortly after this in 1919,
that an anti semitic

546
00:41:57,569 --> 00:42:01,439
document called the
Protocols of the Elders of

547
00:42:01,439 --> 00:42:06,929
Zion, appeared on the scene.
It was a Russian forgery

548
00:42:07,889 --> 00:42:12,419
that asserted that the Jews
were behind a plan to seize

549
00:42:12,419 --> 00:42:17,879
world domination. And sadly,
it is thought circulated

550
00:42:17,879 --> 00:42:23,549
today, ns field anti
semitism in many parts of

551
00:42:23,549 --> 00:42:30,389
the world, and that brings
us to the 20th century. With

552
00:42:30,389 --> 00:42:34,799
the arrival of the 20th
century, Europe was

553
00:42:34,799 --> 00:42:39,629
certainly played by systemic
anti semitism. It was always

554
00:42:39,629 --> 00:42:43,169
bubbling under the surface
of systems of society that

555
00:42:43,169 --> 00:42:47,219
appear to be modern,
sophisticated, and very

556
00:42:47,219 --> 00:42:51,089
cultured. This was
particularly true of Germany

557
00:42:51,119 --> 00:42:55,199
and Eastern Europe. Also,
the hatred of nations was

558
00:42:55,199 --> 00:43:00,269
real and undetected, and the
events in Sarajevo whereby

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00:43:00,359 --> 00:43:04,979
arch Duke Franz Ferdinand
was assassinated, which led

560
00:43:04,979 --> 00:43:08,759
to the outbreak of the First
World War demonstrates that

561
00:43:08,759 --> 00:43:13,289
so there was a real hatred
between nations. At the same

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00:43:13,289 --> 00:43:21,299
time, Germany lost the war.
And Hitler and his thugs

563
00:43:21,599 --> 00:43:26,219
attributed this defeat to
the Jews. That is

564
00:43:26,219 --> 00:43:30,659
historically true, he was
enraged at them, and

565
00:43:30,659 --> 00:43:36,059
vilified them at every turn,
openly, and in big rallies.

566
00:43:36,749 --> 00:43:39,959
The German population in
here this and even

567
00:43:40,229 --> 00:43:44,969
enthusiastically welcomed
it. The German fury spoke

568
00:43:44,999 --> 00:43:48,719
openly of his hatred for the
Jews, and outlined his

569
00:43:48,719 --> 00:43:53,669
intentions with them in his
book mine comfort, which he

570
00:43:53,669 --> 00:44:03,059
wrote in 1925. say if
Jabotinsky saw the writing

571
00:44:03,059 --> 00:44:07,499
on the wall and went through
Europe in 1936, especially

572
00:44:07,529 --> 00:44:11,429
Eastern Europe, calling upon
the Jews to leave and return

573
00:44:11,429 --> 00:44:15,599
to Palestine. he famously
said, quote, liquidate

574
00:44:15,599 --> 00:44:19,469
yourselves from Europe or
Europe or liquidate you.

575
00:44:20,249 --> 00:44:23,879
Sadly, he was largely
ignored, because the outward

576
00:44:23,879 --> 00:44:28,679
sophistication of Europe was
enlightened and civilized.

577
00:44:28,949 --> 00:44:32,969
And people didn't believe
that what he was saying was

578
00:44:32,969 --> 00:44:38,429
true. Jabotinsky knew and
understood that the seeds of

579
00:44:38,429 --> 00:44:42,749
hatred against the Jews that
had been sown for centuries

580
00:44:42,749 --> 00:44:48,449
by the church would bring
about a calamity of huge

581
00:44:48,449 --> 00:44:49,439
proportions.

582
00:44:51,360 --> 00:44:54,600
Undoubtedly, Hitler's rise
to power and his

583
00:44:54,600 --> 00:44:58,110
determination to exterminate
the Jews of Europe, which

584
00:44:58,110 --> 00:45:00,870
found expression in the
Holocaust. During the Second

585
00:45:00,870 --> 00:45:04,650
World War, whereby 6 million
of them were murdered was a

586
00:45:04,650 --> 00:45:08,520
catastrophe of huge
proportions. The Nazis were

587
00:45:08,520 --> 00:45:11,640
not Christians. But the
church, through the

588
00:45:11,640 --> 00:45:14,670
centuries provided the
climate, which made the

589
00:45:14,670 --> 00:45:19,830
Holocaust possible. Jews
were always fair game. And

590
00:45:19,830 --> 00:45:23,970
so the Christians turned a
blind eye and largely did

591
00:45:23,970 --> 00:45:27,750
nothing. The shockwaves of
this horror were felt

592
00:45:27,750 --> 00:45:31,110
throughout the world. And
finally, Christians began to

593
00:45:31,110 --> 00:45:34,950
recognize and awake from the
awful past. And the Second

594
00:45:34,950 --> 00:45:39,960
Vatican Council held in
1964, a document was

595
00:45:39,960 --> 00:45:45,270
produced called nostra Tata,
meaning in our time, which

596
00:45:45,270 --> 00:45:51,450
finally reversed the
doctrine of contempt. It

597
00:45:51,450 --> 00:46:02,490
came centuries, to light. It
is because of this period,

598
00:46:03,090 --> 00:46:09,990
uniquely, that your shame
exists today. And we need to

599
00:46:09,990 --> 00:46:18,660
know that as a reminder of a
memorial, to the dignity and

600
00:46:18,660 --> 00:46:24,150
the lives of millions of
Jewish people and children

601
00:46:25,380 --> 00:46:31,110
who were murdered in the
Second World War, brings me

602
00:46:31,110 --> 00:46:36,420
to my last question. What is
the nature of emerging anti

603
00:46:36,420 --> 00:46:39,810
semitism in the church
today? That is, is it

604
00:46:39,810 --> 00:46:43,080
theological by nature? Or is
there something else

605
00:46:43,080 --> 00:46:47,820
driving? Good question.
Actually, things have

606
00:46:47,820 --> 00:46:54,420
changed. And there's a sort
of a new anti semitism, of

607
00:46:54,420 --> 00:47:01,230
course, they are churches
that are still gripped in

608
00:47:01,230 --> 00:47:05,370
what we call replacement
theology. The idea that the

609
00:47:05,370 --> 00:47:09,780
church alone constitutes the
people of God, and that the

610
00:47:09,780 --> 00:47:13,980
Jewish people have no
destiny under God, which

611
00:47:13,980 --> 00:47:19,590
Paul affirms, they do have.
So there is still around,

612
00:47:19,590 --> 00:47:24,180
but in fact, it is not as
strong today as it was

613
00:47:24,180 --> 00:47:29,460
before. And there is a new
form of anti semitism

614
00:47:29,460 --> 00:47:37,290
emerging. And to some
degree, it's impacting the

615
00:47:37,290 --> 00:47:42,660
evangelical churches,
largely speaking, the

616
00:47:42,660 --> 00:47:46,950
evangelical churches of the
world. And the movements,

617
00:47:46,980 --> 00:47:53,190
they're too attached, do not
have an anti semitic record,

618
00:47:54,840 --> 00:48:00,810
like those of the historical
churches of Europe, but

619
00:48:00,810 --> 00:48:06,630
they're all cracks in the
wall. And these cracks are

620
00:48:06,630 --> 00:48:10,500
getting bigger and bigger
with every passing day. And

621
00:48:10,500 --> 00:48:14,220
it has to do with this, the
new anti semitism is growing

622
00:48:14,250 --> 00:48:18,510
out of the seeds of what we
call the social justice

623
00:48:18,570 --> 00:48:26,130
issues. And this is
overtaking churches, and

624
00:48:26,130 --> 00:48:29,850
denominations who don't hold
to replacement theology,

625
00:48:30,030 --> 00:48:36,210
they reject it. And they may
even see a future for the

626
00:48:36,210 --> 00:48:42,690
Jewish people in the land of
Israel, but they have taken

627
00:48:42,690 --> 00:48:46,620
on board solely a
Palestinian narrative of the

628
00:48:46,620 --> 00:48:51,150
conflict in the region. And
so you see more and more

629
00:48:51,180 --> 00:48:54,930
Christian movements and
churches taking on the

630
00:48:54,930 --> 00:48:58,560
Palestinian cause. And,

631
00:49:00,059 --> 00:49:05,939
and this has brought forth
anti semitism, in many ways.

632
00:49:06,449 --> 00:49:10,619
And this is increasing. And
it's all being built on what

633
00:49:10,619 --> 00:49:15,479
we call the social justice
issues. So it's a different

634
00:49:15,509 --> 00:49:21,629
theological foundation. And
it essentially states that

635
00:49:21,629 --> 00:49:26,849
the Jews have trampled down
upon the Palestinian people.

636
00:49:27,389 --> 00:49:31,409
They are the or they are the
new people who are being

637
00:49:31,409 --> 00:49:35,699
oppressed. And out of that
comes the lie that Israel is

638
00:49:35,699 --> 00:49:38,969
an apartheid state. And then
you have the BDS movement

639
00:49:38,969 --> 00:49:43,199
and all of these things, and
they are penetrating many

640
00:49:43,619 --> 00:49:50,729
Christian communities. And
while we understand that

641
00:49:50,729 --> 00:49:54,449
this is a long lasting
conflict, and we appreciate

642
00:49:54,449 --> 00:49:58,949
the sufferings of people in
many respects, it is it is

643
00:49:58,949 --> 00:50:02,699
true That out of this is
growing an alarming anti

644
00:50:02,699 --> 00:50:06,569
semitism. And it's something
that will have to be

645
00:50:06,569 --> 00:50:13,439
addressed urgently by people
who understand the real

646
00:50:13,439 --> 00:50:18,509
issues of the region. God
bless you. Thank you so much

647
00:50:18,719 --> 00:50:19,529
for listening

648
00:51:17,579 --> 00:51:21,239
shim style today historic
partnership with the global

649
00:51:21,239 --> 00:51:24,179
evangelical Christian
community. Tell me a little

650
00:51:24,179 --> 00:51:26,699
bit about the history of how
did it start, you played a

651
00:51:26,699 --> 00:51:28,019
central role in that.

652
00:51:28,409 --> 00:51:31,379
When I started working at
the adverse shame, I came to

653
00:51:31,379 --> 00:51:34,979
know where Malcolm had angry
get to know each other and

654
00:51:34,979 --> 00:51:37,409
we started meeting each
other from time to time and

655
00:51:37,409 --> 00:51:40,379
talking, we established a
partnership between the

656
00:51:40,379 --> 00:51:43,559
adverse shaved Christian
friends of Yad Vashem, the

657
00:51:43,559 --> 00:51:46,559
Christian desk of Yad Vashem
and the International

658
00:51:46,559 --> 00:51:49,349
Christian embassy. It's
about the support that we

659
00:51:49,349 --> 00:51:52,319
need to get from the
Christian world, which is

660
00:51:52,379 --> 00:51:55,469
very important to for me the
admission to be supported by

661
00:51:55,499 --> 00:52:00,389
by the Christian world, but
it's also part of our common

662
00:52:00,419 --> 00:52:02,369
mission to educate the world

663
00:52:02,519 --> 00:52:05,429
what I see as Muslim awful
to Christians and how can

664
00:52:05,429 --> 00:52:06,989
Christians support your
question?

665
00:52:08,219 --> 00:52:11,939
So Kristin support here
vishram in many different

666
00:52:11,939 --> 00:52:16,529
ways, helping us to bring
the soldiers we spoke about

667
00:52:16,529 --> 00:52:21,329
the importance educating the
soldiers, educating us, Jews

668
00:52:21,329 --> 00:52:24,329
and non Jews were educating
their 1000 non Jews or

669
00:52:24,329 --> 00:52:27,629
coming to visit you even put
a rubber seal down. Also

670
00:52:27,629 --> 00:52:31,889
Branca, ARBs, Hill to
educate them. We need the

671
00:52:31,889 --> 00:52:35,669
support to continue with
Christian seminars that we

672
00:52:35,909 --> 00:52:39,449
have here. We would like to
have more seminars, we would

673
00:52:39,449 --> 00:52:43,859
like to bring young gay
Christian leaders they to

674
00:52:43,889 --> 00:52:47,369
transform in order to end
where they will take a major

675
00:52:47,369 --> 00:52:49,259
role in their communities
that they will have

676
00:52:50,009 --> 00:52:53,159
knowledge and understanding
what why it's important what

677
00:52:53,159 --> 00:52:57,509
is the role of follow cost
in shaping the identity of

678
00:52:57,509 --> 00:53:01,169
their communities. So that
can be a very important way

679
00:53:01,169 --> 00:53:02,519
to support the adverse
shame.

680
00:53:02,819 --> 00:53:06,029
You know, shy knowing you
are now for all those seals

681
00:53:06,029 --> 00:53:09,059
I think we know each other
more than 50 years. You are

682
00:53:09,089 --> 00:53:11,699
the son of Holocaust
survivors who could have had

683
00:53:11,729 --> 00:53:14,579
any reason to say I didn't
want to have anything to do

684
00:53:14,579 --> 00:53:17,759
with Christians anymore,
especially chairman's like I

685
00:53:17,759 --> 00:53:21,419
am and the warmth and
embrace that we feel here on

686
00:53:21,419 --> 00:53:24,149
this institution and the
knowledge coming spirits

687
00:53:24,149 --> 00:53:26,489
from Christians around the
world who stand with them

688
00:53:26,489 --> 00:53:29,429
and to receive their
support. That's amazing. And

689
00:53:29,639 --> 00:53:31,919
I really want to
congratulate the adoption

690
00:53:31,919 --> 00:53:35,519
and you personally, for this
visionary voice that you're

691
00:53:35,519 --> 00:53:36,119
doing here.

692
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Our major role is to ensure
the legacy of the survivors

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that's what they wanted,
they established Yad Vashem

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followings all across the
survivors established the

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adverse shape and they want
the adverse shame to be a

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place that will carry on the
legacy for eternity.

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Cheyenne Ellison amazing
passage that your boss input

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on the entry and exit gate
of Yad Vashem, what does it

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mean for you and for Yad
Vashem?

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When we did this a work of
building Yad Vashem yourself

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or Sophie what should be the
final message when someone

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is coming out of the adverse
shame? And we thought that

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the message from the book of
Zakat from the prophets of

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Zakat is the right words
because I will put my

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breasts into you, and you
shall live again, I will set

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you upon your own soil. It's
the right message when you

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come out of the adverse
shame,

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Sharia. Thank you so much
for having us here today.

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This was an amazing day we
learned so much, and thanks

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for this incredible
partnership.

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Thank you for coming to our
bar.

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God bless you. God

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bless you.

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Bye bye. Here. We have been
confronted with the Abbott's

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of the human heart, but at
the same time we met amazing

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people that are building
bridges. between Jews and

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Christians. As Christians,
we have the serious

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responsibility to support
and to speak up for Assad

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and for the Jewish people.
We cannot afford to be

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silent again. To learn more
about the ways that the ice

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j is actively fighting anti
semitism, and how you can be

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a part of this meaningful
work, go to ice j.org slash

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Yad Vashem