0:00:01.365,0:00:04.230 A briefcase full of poop changed my life. 0:00:04.810,0:00:06.690 Ten years ago, I was a graduate student 0:00:06.714,0:00:09.388 and I was helping judge[br]a genetic engineering competition 0:00:09.412,0:00:10.633 for undergrads. 0:00:10.657,0:00:14.598 There, I met a British artist and designer[br]named Alexandra Daisy Ginsberg. 0:00:14.622,0:00:17.003 She was wearing the white[br]embroidered polo shirt 0:00:17.027,0:00:18.756 of the University of Cambridge team 0:00:18.780,0:00:20.360 and holding a silver briefcase, 0:00:20.384,0:00:23.668 like the kind that you would imagine[br]is handcuffed to your wrist. 0:00:23.692,0:00:25.476 She gestured over from a quiet corner 0:00:25.500,0:00:27.500 and asked me if I wanted to see something. 0:00:27.803,0:00:30.033 With a sneaky look,[br]she opened up the suitcase, 0:00:30.057,0:00:35.172 and inside were six glorious,[br]multicolored turds. 0:00:35.609,0:00:37.283 The Cambridge team, she explained, 0:00:37.307,0:00:40.220 had spent their summer[br]engineering the bacteria E. coli 0:00:40.244,0:00:43.006 to be able to sense different things[br]in the environment 0:00:43.030,0:00:45.974 and produce a rainbow[br]of different colors in response. 0:00:45.998,0:00:47.727 Arsenic in your drinking water? 0:00:47.751,0:00:49.320 This strain would turn green. 0:00:49.344,0:00:51.725 She and her collaborator,[br]the designer James King, 0:00:51.749,0:00:55.042 worked with the students and imagined[br]the different possible scenarios 0:00:55.066,0:00:56.828 of how you might use these bacteria. 0:00:56.852,0:00:58.880 What if, they asked, you could use them 0:00:58.904,0:01:03.190 as a living probiotic drink[br]and health monitor, all in one? 0:01:03.785,0:01:06.553 You could drink the bacteria[br]and it would live in your gut, 0:01:06.577,0:01:07.868 sensing what's going on, 0:01:07.892,0:01:09.520 and then in response to something, 0:01:09.544,0:01:11.812 it would be able to produce[br]a colored output. 0:01:11.836,0:01:13.003 Holy shit! 0:01:13.027,0:01:14.606 The Cambridge team went on to win 0:01:14.630,0:01:17.503 the International Genetically Engineered[br]Machine competition, 0:01:17.527,0:01:18.887 or iGEM for short. 0:01:18.911,0:01:22.220 And as for me, those turds[br]were a turning point. 0:01:22.744,0:01:24.315 I am a synthetic biologist, 0:01:24.339,0:01:27.617 which is probably a weird term[br]that most people aren't familiar with. 0:01:27.641,0:01:29.696 It definitely sounds like an oxymoron. 0:01:29.720,0:01:32.010 How can biology, something natural, 0:01:32.034,0:01:33.201 be synthetic? 0:01:33.225,0:01:36.280 How can something artificial be alive? 0:01:36.788,0:01:38.703 Synthetic biologists sort of poke holes 0:01:38.727,0:01:43.006 in that boundary that we draw between[br]what is natural and what's technological. 0:01:43.030,0:01:45.680 And every year, iGEM students[br]from all over the world 0:01:45.704,0:01:46.918 spend their summer 0:01:46.942,0:01:50.010 trying to engineer biology[br]to be technology. 0:01:50.034,0:01:52.749 They teach bacteria how to play sudoku, 0:01:52.773,0:01:55.641 they make multicolored spider silk, 0:01:55.665,0:01:57.815 they make self-healing concrete 0:01:57.839,0:02:01.141 and tissue printers[br]and plastic-eating bacteria. 0:02:01.165,0:02:02.561 Up until that moment, though, 0:02:02.585,0:02:05.800 I was a little bit more concerned[br]with a different kind of oxymoron. 0:02:06.180,0:02:08.236 Just plain old genetic engineering. 0:02:08.260,0:02:10.348 The comedian Simon Munnery once wrote 0:02:10.372,0:02:15.264 that genetic engineering is actually[br]insulting to proper engineering. 0:02:15.288,0:02:19.153 Genetic engineering is more like throwing[br]a bunch of concrete and steel in a river 0:02:19.177,0:02:21.967 and if somebody can walk across,[br]you call it a bridge. 0:02:22.411,0:02:25.196 And so synthetic biologists[br]were pretty worried about this, 0:02:25.220,0:02:28.910 and worried that genetic engineering[br]was a little bit more art that science. 0:02:29.369,0:02:33.472 They wanted to turn genetic engineering[br]into a real engineering discipline, 0:02:33.496,0:02:37.401 where we could program cells and write DNA 0:02:37.425,0:02:41.093 the way that engineers write[br]software for computers. 0:02:41.117,0:02:45.641 That day 10 years ago started me on a path[br]that gets me to where I am now. 0:02:45.665,0:02:47.283 Today, I'm the creative director 0:02:47.307,0:02:50.131 at a synthetic biology company[br]called Ginkgo Bioworks. 0:02:50.433,0:02:52.154 "Creative director" is a weird title 0:02:52.178,0:02:54.734 for a biotech company[br]were people try to program life 0:02:54.758,0:02:56.758 the way that we program computers. 0:02:57.165,0:02:59.220 But that day when I met Daisy, 0:02:59.244,0:03:01.085 I learned something about engineering. 0:03:01.109,0:03:03.949 I learned that engineering[br]isn't really just about equations 0:03:03.973,0:03:05.750 and steel and circuits, 0:03:05.774,0:03:07.790 it's actually about people. 0:03:07.814,0:03:10.329 It's something that people do,[br]and it impacts us. 0:03:10.353,0:03:11.561 So in my work, 0:03:11.585,0:03:15.233 I try to open up new spaces[br]for different kinds of engineering. 0:03:15.633,0:03:17.966 How can we ask better questions, 0:03:17.990,0:03:19.721 and can we have better conversations 0:03:19.745,0:03:22.188 about what we want[br]from the future of technology? 0:03:22.212,0:03:24.783 How can we understand the technological 0:03:24.807,0:03:27.664 but also social and political[br]and economic reasons 0:03:27.688,0:03:30.458 that GMOs are so polarizing[br]in our society? 0:03:30.482,0:03:32.482 Can we make GMOs that people love? 0:03:33.315,0:03:38.939 Can we use biology to make technology[br]that's more expansive and regenerative? 0:03:38.963,0:03:42.733 I think it starts by recognizing[br]that we, as synthetic biologists, 0:03:42.757,0:03:46.680 are also shaped by a culture[br]that values "real engineering" 0:03:46.704,0:03:48.704 more than any of the squishy stuff. 0:03:49.561,0:03:53.590 We get so caught up in circuits[br]and what happens inside of computers, 0:03:53.614,0:03:57.256 that we sometimes lose sight of the magic[br]that's happening inside of us. 0:03:57.280,0:03:59.918 There is plenty of shitty[br]technology out there, 0:03:59.942,0:04:04.410 but this was the first time[br]that I imagined poop as technology. 0:04:04.434,0:04:07.966 I began to see that synthetic[br]biology was awesome, 0:04:07.990,0:04:10.752 not because we could turn[br]cells into computers, 0:04:10.776,0:04:13.585 but because we could bring[br]technology to life. 0:04:13.609,0:04:15.498 This was technology that was visceral, 0:04:15.522,0:04:18.672 an unforgettable vision[br]of what the future might hold. 0:04:18.696,0:04:21.149 But importantly, it was also[br]framed as the question 0:04:21.173,0:04:23.577 "Is this the kind of future[br]that we actually want?" 0:04:23.601,0:04:26.077 We've been promised a future of chrome, 0:04:26.101,0:04:28.982 but what if the future is fleshy? 0:04:29.006,0:04:31.117 Science and science fiction 0:04:31.141,0:04:33.728 help us remember[br]that we're made of star stuff. 0:04:33.752,0:04:36.426 But can it also help us remember[br]the wonder and weirdness 0:04:36.450,0:04:38.125 of being made of flesh? 0:04:38.149,0:04:39.434 Biology is us, 0:04:39.458,0:04:41.664 it's our bodies, it's what we eat. 0:04:41.688,0:04:45.000 What happens when biology[br]becomes technology? 0:04:45.709,0:04:47.788 These images are questions, 0:04:47.812,0:04:51.470 and they challenge what we think of[br]as normal and desirable. 0:04:51.796,0:04:54.723 And they also show us[br]that the future is full of choices 0:04:54.747,0:04:56.747 and that we could choose differently. 0:04:57.279,0:05:00.556 What's the future of the body, of beauty? 0:05:00.580,0:05:04.133 If we change the body,[br]will we have new kinds of awareness? 0:05:04.506,0:05:07.184 And will new kinds of awareness[br]of the microbial world 0:05:07.208,0:05:09.106 change the way that we eat? 0:05:09.130,0:05:12.643 The last chapter of my dissertation[br]was all about cheese that I made 0:05:12.667,0:05:15.733 using bacteria that I swabbed[br]from in between my toes. 0:05:16.244,0:05:18.434 I told you that the poop changed my life. 0:05:18.458,0:05:21.220 I worked with the smell artist[br]and researcher Sissel Tolaas 0:05:21.244,0:05:26.288 to explore all of the ways[br]that our bodies and cheese are connected 0:05:26.312,0:05:29.058 through smell and therefore microbes. 0:05:29.082,0:05:30.518 And we created this cheese 0:05:30.542,0:05:33.474 to challenge how we think[br]about the bacteria 0:05:33.498,0:05:34.958 that's part of our lives 0:05:34.982,0:05:37.458 and the bacteria[br]that we work with in the lab. 0:05:37.482,0:05:39.704 We are, indeed, what we eat. 0:05:39.728,0:05:41.918 The intersection of biology and technology 0:05:41.942,0:05:46.029 is more often told as a story[br]of transcending our fleshy realities. 0:05:46.053,0:05:48.086 If you can upload[br]your brain to a computer, 0:05:48.110,0:05:50.078 you don't need to poop anymore after all. 0:05:50.102,0:05:53.177 And that's usually a story[br]that's told as a good thing, right? 0:05:53.201,0:05:58.518 Because computers are clean,[br]and biology is messy. 0:05:58.542,0:06:01.141 Computers make sense and are rational, 0:06:01.165,0:06:04.500 and biology is an unpredictable tangle. 0:06:05.331,0:06:06.721 It kind of follows from there 0:06:06.745,0:06:09.950 that science and technology[br]are supposed to be rational, 0:06:09.974,0:06:11.426 objective 0:06:11.450,0:06:13.403 and pure, 0:06:13.427,0:06:16.048 and it's humans that are a total mess. 0:06:16.407,0:06:18.645 But like synthetic biologists poke holes 0:06:18.669,0:06:21.701 in that line between nature[br]and technology, 0:06:21.725,0:06:24.201 artists, designers and social scientists 0:06:24.225,0:06:28.498 showed me that the lines that we draw[br]between nature, technology and society 0:06:28.522,0:06:30.895 are a little bit softer[br]than we might think. 0:06:30.919,0:06:34.399 They challenge us to reconsider[br]our visions for the future 0:06:34.423,0:06:37.360 and our fantasies[br]about controlling nature. 0:06:37.384,0:06:40.971 They show us how our prejudices,[br]our hopes and our values 0:06:40.995,0:06:43.222 are embedded in science and technology 0:06:43.246,0:06:46.229 through the questions that we ask[br]and the choices that we make. 0:06:46.253,0:06:50.601 They make visible the ways[br]that science and technology are human 0:06:50.625,0:06:52.260 and therefore political. 0:06:52.284,0:06:54.768 What does it mean for us[br]to be able to control life 0:06:54.792,0:06:56.339 for our own purposes? 0:06:56.363,0:06:58.212 The artists Oron Catts and Ionat Zurr 0:06:58.236,0:07:00.371 made a project[br]called "Victimless Leather," 0:07:00.395,0:07:03.283 where they engineered[br]a tiny leather jacket 0:07:03.307,0:07:04.776 out of mouse cells. 0:07:04.800,0:07:06.990 Is this jacket alive? 0:07:07.014,0:07:10.291 What does it take to grow it[br]and keep it this way? 0:07:10.315,0:07:11.910 Is it really victimless? 0:07:11.934,0:07:14.545 And what does it mean[br]for something to be victimless? 0:07:15.022,0:07:16.236 The choices that we make 0:07:16.260,0:07:19.760 in what we show and what we hide[br]in our stories of progress, 0:07:19.784,0:07:23.487 are often political choices[br]that have real consequences. 0:07:23.511,0:07:27.764 How will genetic technologies[br]shape the way that we understand ourselves 0:07:27.788,0:07:29.217 and define our bodies? 0:07:29.241,0:07:31.839 The artist Heather Dewey-Hagborg[br]made these faces 0:07:31.863,0:07:34.918 based on DNA sequences[br]she extracted from sidewalk litter, 0:07:34.942,0:07:38.145 forcing us to ask questions[br]about genetic privacy, 0:07:38.169,0:07:41.867 but also how and whether[br]DNA can really define us. 0:07:42.249,0:07:45.387 How will we fight against[br]and cope with climate change? 0:07:45.411,0:07:47.633 Will we change the way[br]that we make everything, 0:07:47.657,0:07:51.760 using biological materials[br]that can grow and decay alongside us? 0:07:51.784,0:07:54.077 Will we change our own bodies? 0:07:54.101,0:07:55.942 Or nature itself? 0:07:55.966,0:08:00.076 Or can we change the system[br]that keeps reinforcing those boundaries 0:08:00.100,0:08:03.196 between science, society,[br]nature and technology? 0:08:03.220,0:08:07.561 Relationships that today keep us[br]locked in these unsustainable patterns. 0:08:07.585,0:08:09.783 How we understand and respond to crises 0:08:09.807,0:08:12.847 that are natural, technical[br]and social all at once, 0:08:12.871,0:08:15.116 from coronavirus to climate change, 0:08:15.140,0:08:16.847 is deeply political, 0:08:16.871,0:08:19.577 and science never happens in a vacuum. 0:08:20.165,0:08:21.379 Let's go back in time 0:08:21.403,0:08:23.932 to when the first European settlers[br]arrived in Hawaii. 0:08:24.488,0:08:28.004 They eventually brought their cattle[br]and their scientists with them. 0:08:28.028,0:08:30.203 The cattle roamed the hillsides, 0:08:30.227,0:08:33.137 trampling and changing[br]the ecosystems as they went. 0:08:33.161,0:08:36.629 The scientists catalogued the species[br]that they found there, 0:08:36.653,0:08:39.685 often taking the last specimen[br]before they went extinct. 0:08:40.117,0:08:42.331 This is the Maui hau kuahiwi, 0:08:42.355,0:08:44.561 or the Hibiscadelphus wilderianus, 0:08:44.585,0:08:46.967 so named by Gerrit Wilder in 1910. 0:08:47.276,0:08:49.855 By 1912, it was extinct. 0:08:49.879,0:08:53.164 I found this specimen[br]in the Harvard University Herbarium, 0:08:53.188,0:08:57.352 where it's housed with five million[br]other specimens from all over the world. 0:08:57.376,0:09:00.114 I wanted to take a piece[br]of science's past, 0:09:00.138,0:09:02.296 tied up as it was with colonialism, 0:09:02.320,0:09:03.712 and all of the embedded ideas 0:09:03.736,0:09:07.807 of the way that nature and science[br]and society should work together, 0:09:07.831,0:09:10.664 and ask questions about science's future. 0:09:11.109,0:09:13.014 Working with an awesome team at Ginkgo, 0:09:13.038,0:09:14.982 and others at UC Santa Cruz, 0:09:15.006,0:09:17.609 we were able to extract[br]a little bit of the DNA 0:09:17.633,0:09:20.133 from a tiny sliver of this plant specimen 0:09:20.157,0:09:22.268 and to sequence the DNA inside. 0:09:22.292,0:09:25.439 And then resynthesize a possible version 0:09:25.463,0:09:28.629 of the genes that made[br]the smell of the plant. 0:09:28.653,0:09:31.026 By inserting those genes into yeast, 0:09:31.050,0:09:33.563 we could produce little bits of that smell 0:09:33.587,0:09:35.325 and be able to, maybe, smell 0:09:35.349,0:09:37.658 a little bit of something[br]that's lost forever. 0:09:37.682,0:09:39.705 Working again with Daisy[br]and Sissel Tolaas, 0:09:39.729,0:09:42.218 my collaborator on the cheese project, 0:09:42.242,0:09:46.276 we reconstructed and composed[br]a new smell of that flower, 0:09:46.300,0:09:49.331 and created an installation[br]where people could experience it, 0:09:49.355,0:09:52.751 to be part of this natural history[br]and synthetic future. 0:09:54.482,0:09:56.530 Ten years ago, I was a synthetic biologist 0:09:56.554,0:09:59.529 worried that genetic engineering[br]was more art than science 0:09:59.553,0:10:01.220 and that people were too messy 0:10:01.244,0:10:03.244 and biology was too complicated. 0:10:03.641,0:10:06.601 Now I use genetic engineering as art 0:10:06.625,0:10:09.645 to explore all the different ways[br]that we are entangled together 0:10:09.669,0:10:11.899 and imagine different possible futures. 0:10:11.923,0:10:13.622 A fleshy future 0:10:13.646,0:10:16.942 is one that does recognize[br]all those interconnections 0:10:16.966,0:10:19.624 and the human realities of technology. 0:10:19.927,0:10:23.439 But it also recognizes[br]the incredible power of biology, 0:10:23.463,0:10:25.408 its resilience and sustainability, 0:10:25.432,0:10:28.431 its ability to heal and grow and adapt. 0:10:28.455,0:10:30.418 Values that are so necessary 0:10:30.442,0:10:33.037 for the visions of the futures[br]that we can have today. 0:10:33.061,0:10:35.371 Technology will shape that future, 0:10:35.395,0:10:37.395 but humans make technology. 0:10:37.696,0:10:40.309 How we decide what that future will be 0:10:40.333,0:10:41.746 is up to all of us. 0:10:42.556,0:10:43.738 Thank you.