1 00:00:10,811 --> 00:00:11,935 As a teacher, 2 00:00:12,233 --> 00:00:15,214 I know the value of having a classroom filled with students 3 00:00:15,264 --> 00:00:16,839 from different backgrounds. 4 00:00:17,073 --> 00:00:21,946 My classes on American politics are deeply enriched by the diversity of my students. 5 00:00:22,172 --> 00:00:24,740 For example, when discussing welfare reform, 6 00:00:25,548 --> 00:00:29,016 there's nothing like having a brave young student raise their hand 7 00:00:29,057 --> 00:00:32,148 and talk about the challenges of personally growing up in poverty 8 00:00:32,180 --> 00:00:34,903 to get the rest of the class to sit up and pay attention. 9 00:00:35,937 --> 00:00:38,349 But while our colleges and universities 10 00:00:38,383 --> 00:00:40,637 make every effort to increase the representation 11 00:00:40,657 --> 00:00:43,149 of racial, ethnic, and sexual minorities, 12 00:00:43,179 --> 00:00:46,348 there's another kind of diversity that we often forget: 13 00:00:46,678 --> 00:00:48,267 viewpoint diversity. 14 00:00:49,068 --> 00:00:52,621 In today's increasingly polarized political climate, 15 00:00:52,658 --> 00:00:56,953 having people on campus with different perspectives is more important than ever. 16 00:00:57,902 --> 00:01:02,923 If you haven't noticed, Washington DC has recently been a bit of a spectacle. 17 00:01:03,262 --> 00:01:04,782 (Laughter) 18 00:01:04,941 --> 00:01:07,474 And if you're like me, you've probably thought 19 00:01:07,495 --> 00:01:11,728 that our leaders could use some remedial education in civil dialogue. 20 00:01:12,307 --> 00:01:15,347 (Applause and cheers) 21 00:01:19,028 --> 00:01:20,753 Our colleges could be a place 22 00:01:20,783 --> 00:01:24,378 where our future leaders learn to engage with people they disagree with. 23 00:01:24,650 --> 00:01:27,273 But today, too many people on campus seem to think 24 00:01:27,299 --> 00:01:30,030 that the appropriate response to people they disagree with 25 00:01:30,070 --> 00:01:33,441 is shouting, name-calling, and even violence. 26 00:01:34,140 --> 00:01:39,009 Every year, every semester brings more and more examples. 27 00:01:39,721 --> 00:01:44,520 In 2017, at Middlebury College, when the liberal professor Allison Stanger 28 00:01:44,547 --> 00:01:47,237 tried to moderate a free and fair exchange of ideas 29 00:01:47,273 --> 00:01:49,780 with a controversial libertarian Charles Murray, 30 00:01:49,810 --> 00:01:52,908 students yelled, screamed, and pulled fire alarms. 31 00:01:53,551 --> 00:01:56,706 Eventually, campus officials tried to sneak them out of back door, 32 00:01:57,171 --> 00:02:00,039 but a mob of mass protestors found them 33 00:02:00,340 --> 00:02:02,157 and jerked professor Stanger's head 34 00:02:02,157 --> 00:02:06,381 so violently that she suffered whiplash and a concussion. 35 00:02:08,338 --> 00:02:10,340 This is what's happening on our campuses, 36 00:02:10,930 --> 00:02:15,418 places the next generation of leaders is learning to interact with others. 37 00:02:15,888 --> 00:02:17,172 If it's happening there, 38 00:02:17,192 --> 00:02:20,122 can we be surprised at what's happening in Washington 39 00:02:20,152 --> 00:02:21,632 or corporate boardrooms 40 00:02:21,656 --> 00:02:23,418 or even our own neighborhoods? 41 00:02:24,901 --> 00:02:27,321 My expertise happens to be in higher education, 42 00:02:27,361 --> 00:02:30,182 and I've seen the lack of intellectual diversity first-hand. 43 00:02:30,790 --> 00:02:34,139 Today, less than 13 percent of professors identify as conservative, 44 00:02:34,155 --> 00:02:37,412 while 60 percent identify as either liberal or far left. 45 00:02:38,227 --> 00:02:40,490 In the Humanities and Social Sciences, 46 00:02:40,520 --> 00:02:43,530 fields where politics is often central to teaching and research, 47 00:02:43,565 --> 00:02:45,998 only five percent identify as conservative, 48 00:02:46,686 --> 00:02:49,371 and most of those are in Economics or Political Science. 49 00:02:49,741 --> 00:02:52,492 In some fields, they're almost an extinct species. 50 00:02:54,040 --> 00:02:56,442 And of that five percent, 51 00:02:56,482 --> 00:03:00,392 only some are even willing to admit it to their co-workers. 52 00:03:00,842 --> 00:03:03,292 Seven years ago, my friend John Shields and I 53 00:03:03,312 --> 00:03:07,089 decided it would be interesting to study conservative and libertarian professors 54 00:03:07,109 --> 00:03:08,999 in the Social Sciences and Humanities. 55 00:03:09,800 --> 00:03:11,545 Everyone in the university knows 56 00:03:11,594 --> 00:03:13,732 that professors are overwhelmingly liberal. 57 00:03:14,488 --> 00:03:16,977 But we realized that there was almost no research 58 00:03:16,998 --> 00:03:19,287 on the experiences of conservatives on campus. 59 00:03:19,815 --> 00:03:21,062 What are their lives like? 60 00:03:21,082 --> 00:03:24,179 Are they afraid of being punished or that they'll be denied tenure 61 00:03:24,199 --> 00:03:25,551 because of their politics? 62 00:03:25,580 --> 00:03:29,271 We ended up interviewing 153 conservative professors. 63 00:03:29,933 --> 00:03:31,769 Much of what we found was alarming: 64 00:03:32,242 --> 00:03:35,590 One-third of them hid their politics from their colleagues. 65 00:03:35,838 --> 00:03:39,851 They described themselves as "in-the-closet conservatives." 66 00:03:41,385 --> 00:03:44,928 Many expressed profound fear about being outed. 67 00:03:45,565 --> 00:03:49,317 Some even thought that our project was a Red Scare in reverse: 68 00:03:50,142 --> 00:03:52,205 we must be trying to identify conservatives 69 00:03:52,229 --> 00:03:54,202 so they can be run out of the university. 70 00:03:55,494 --> 00:03:57,856 One sociologist was so afraid 71 00:03:58,699 --> 00:04:00,766 that he refused to let us interview him. 72 00:04:01,208 --> 00:04:04,794 But after convincing him that we came in peace, 73 00:04:04,824 --> 00:04:06,987 he finally agreed to talk to us 74 00:04:07,243 --> 00:04:09,649 but only far away from his office, 75 00:04:09,662 --> 00:04:12,478 where his colleagues would never see or hear us - 76 00:04:13,016 --> 00:04:15,977 in the middle of a botanical garden. 77 00:04:16,242 --> 00:04:18,731 (Laughter) 78 00:04:20,077 --> 00:04:23,278 John and I left this interview feeling like spies 79 00:04:23,302 --> 00:04:28,550 rather than the nerdy, socially awkward professors that we actually are. 80 00:04:28,573 --> 00:04:30,166 (Laughter) 81 00:04:30,188 --> 00:04:32,667 Now, maybe you think that it's not a problem 82 00:04:32,689 --> 00:04:35,870 that conservatives have to hide behind bushes in botanical gardens, 83 00:04:35,984 --> 00:04:37,554 (Laughter) 84 00:04:37,606 --> 00:04:40,905 but if you think that diversity is good for all of us, 85 00:04:41,093 --> 00:04:43,193 then so is viewpoint diversity. 86 00:04:43,962 --> 00:04:46,004 For one reason, it matters for teaching. 87 00:04:46,022 --> 00:04:48,682 (Applause and cheers) 88 00:04:50,893 --> 00:04:51,954 At its best, 89 00:04:51,983 --> 00:04:55,772 the university is a place where students can learn deliberative virtues, 90 00:04:55,782 --> 00:04:58,973 like civility, toleration, and mutual respect. 91 00:04:59,182 --> 00:05:01,792 But in a monoculture, it's difficult to do this. 92 00:05:01,823 --> 00:05:04,573 This is a lost opportunity for civic education. 93 00:05:05,075 --> 00:05:06,507 The university is also a place 94 00:05:06,520 --> 00:05:09,213 where students should learn to live in a diverse society. 95 00:05:09,502 --> 00:05:11,252 For many, it's really the first time 96 00:05:11,292 --> 00:05:14,103 they're exposed to people who are different from themselves. 97 00:05:14,114 --> 00:05:16,383 Ideally, students would learn the best arguments 98 00:05:16,403 --> 00:05:18,402 of both the left and the right, 99 00:05:18,402 --> 00:05:20,864 not the watered-down and inflammatory versions 100 00:05:20,894 --> 00:05:24,400 you hear on cable news or read on social media. 101 00:05:24,973 --> 00:05:27,744 But today, it's quite possible to receive an education - 102 00:05:27,771 --> 00:05:29,573 and an elite one at that - 103 00:05:29,743 --> 00:05:32,731 and never be exposed to major conservative ideas, 104 00:05:33,089 --> 00:05:38,444 ideas that have, for better or worse, profoundly influenced American politics. 105 00:05:39,121 --> 00:05:40,914 But it's not impossible. 106 00:05:41,022 --> 00:05:44,694 Robby George is one of America's most prominent conservative professors, 107 00:05:44,714 --> 00:05:48,465 and Cornel West is one of our most prominent African American scholars. 108 00:05:48,494 --> 00:05:51,774 He's a progressive and a self-declared radical democrat. 109 00:05:52,425 --> 00:05:54,249 Despite their political differences, 110 00:05:54,259 --> 00:05:57,506 the two became close friends while they were colleagues at Princeton. 111 00:05:58,223 --> 00:06:00,874 Eventually, they decided to teach a course together. 112 00:06:00,904 --> 00:06:02,814 Doing that allowed them to show students 113 00:06:02,834 --> 00:06:05,846 how you could respectfully engage people you disagree with 114 00:06:05,874 --> 00:06:08,744 and sharpen your own arguments at the same time. 115 00:06:09,313 --> 00:06:13,597 Today, they have a traveling roadshow and visit campuses around the country. 116 00:06:14,837 --> 00:06:18,183 The only sad part of their story is that it is so rare. 117 00:06:18,704 --> 00:06:20,946 Our campuses would be far healthier places 118 00:06:20,974 --> 00:06:24,593 if their example was the norm rather than the exception. 119 00:06:24,623 --> 00:06:27,065 (Applause) 120 00:06:28,703 --> 00:06:30,620 Another important goal of the university 121 00:06:30,620 --> 00:06:33,852 is to generate research that improves our understanding of the world. 122 00:06:33,882 --> 00:06:37,641 But academic echo chambers, where we only talk to people we agree with, 123 00:06:37,662 --> 00:06:39,386 undermine that mission. 124 00:06:39,707 --> 00:06:42,551 And that's because of confirmation bias. 125 00:06:42,872 --> 00:06:45,883 Confirmation bias is just the tendency that we all have 126 00:06:45,907 --> 00:06:49,131 to accept evidence that supports our pre-existing beliefs. 127 00:06:49,565 --> 00:06:53,522 For example, if you're like me and drink a lot of coffee, 128 00:06:53,845 --> 00:06:56,165 at least one to two pots a day, 129 00:06:56,181 --> 00:06:57,961 (Laughter) 130 00:06:58,286 --> 00:07:02,543 you enthusiastically accept every story about the health benefits of coffee, 131 00:07:02,554 --> 00:07:04,772 (Laughter) 132 00:07:04,982 --> 00:07:07,873 and you share them widely on social media. 133 00:07:09,075 --> 00:07:12,743 "Look, everyone, science has confirmed my life choices." 134 00:07:12,761 --> 00:07:14,251 (Laughter) 135 00:07:14,280 --> 00:07:18,770 But if you see research showing that coffee might be bad for you, 136 00:07:18,791 --> 00:07:22,367 "Don't tell me, I don't want to hear about it, it can't be true." 137 00:07:22,998 --> 00:07:24,935 That's confirmation bias. 138 00:07:25,400 --> 00:07:28,976 Basically, none of us like being told that we might be wrong, 139 00:07:28,989 --> 00:07:31,716 and that's particularly true about our deeply held beliefs 140 00:07:31,734 --> 00:07:35,103 about things like politics, religion, or coffee. 141 00:07:35,714 --> 00:07:38,705 When intellectually isolated research communities form, 142 00:07:38,735 --> 00:07:41,476 no one is there to challenge their biases. 143 00:07:41,494 --> 00:07:46,804 And when that happens, groupthink sets in, and errors go uncorrected. 144 00:07:47,996 --> 00:07:50,476 When we're divided into groups of like-minded people, 145 00:07:50,496 --> 00:07:53,086 our positions also tend to become more extreme. 146 00:07:53,985 --> 00:07:57,002 Just compare Boulder to Colorado Springs. 147 00:07:57,025 --> 00:07:59,215 (Laughter) 148 00:08:00,761 --> 00:08:04,472 You may have heard there are some differences between the two communities? 149 00:08:04,527 --> 00:08:06,486 (Laughter) 150 00:08:06,506 --> 00:08:08,695 In fact, scholars have studied them. 151 00:08:08,991 --> 00:08:11,965 In one experiment, they took a group of liberals from Boulder 152 00:08:11,994 --> 00:08:15,076 and had them talk about controversial issues like climate change 153 00:08:15,094 --> 00:08:16,904 and same-sex marriage with each other. 154 00:08:16,930 --> 00:08:19,974 And then they took a group of conservatives from Colorado Springs 155 00:08:19,984 --> 00:08:21,474 and had them do the same thing. 156 00:08:21,999 --> 00:08:27,234 After each group had deliberated, their views became more extreme. 157 00:08:27,425 --> 00:08:30,291 The Boulder liberals moved farther to the left, 158 00:08:30,309 --> 00:08:34,382 and the Colorado Springs conservatives moved farther to the right. 159 00:08:36,132 --> 00:08:40,389 Viewpoint diversity directly affects the quality of education we're providing 160 00:08:40,401 --> 00:08:43,041 and the quality of research that we're producing. 161 00:08:43,356 --> 00:08:48,324 Universities, particularly administrators, must make it a priority. 162 00:08:49,007 --> 00:08:50,682 They need to remind their campuses 163 00:08:50,703 --> 00:08:54,003 that the university depends on the free exchange of ideas. 164 00:08:54,248 --> 00:08:57,412 And that affects everything from hiring to guest speakers. 165 00:08:58,114 --> 00:09:00,572 Now, these changes aren't going to happen overnight, 166 00:09:00,602 --> 00:09:03,557 but there are things that we can do that can make a difference. 167 00:09:04,093 --> 00:09:06,436 One option is what my co-author and I have called 168 00:09:06,436 --> 00:09:08,626 "an ideological Fulbright Program." 169 00:09:09,157 --> 00:09:12,135 The Fulbright Program is an educational exchange program 170 00:09:12,155 --> 00:09:16,268 where American faculty and students go abroad to study, teach, and research. 171 00:09:16,304 --> 00:09:19,067 And then non-US citizens come here and do the same. 172 00:09:19,344 --> 00:09:21,908 America created it after World War II. 173 00:09:22,232 --> 00:09:24,180 The goal was to promote peace 174 00:09:24,191 --> 00:09:27,728 by increasing mutual understanding across cultures. 175 00:09:28,267 --> 00:09:30,869 Something similar would be useful here at home, 176 00:09:30,893 --> 00:09:32,907 where conservative and progressive cultures 177 00:09:32,930 --> 00:09:35,588 rarely interact with each other on campus. 178 00:09:35,595 --> 00:09:37,893 In fact, there's already a program much like this 179 00:09:37,911 --> 00:09:39,802 at the University of Colorado Boulder, 180 00:09:39,839 --> 00:09:42,758 where each year they bring a conservative professor to campus. 181 00:09:43,381 --> 00:09:46,280 (Laughter) 182 00:09:48,901 --> 00:09:51,078 More faculty could also be encouraged 183 00:09:51,082 --> 00:09:54,049 to follow the example of Robby George and Cornel West 184 00:09:54,076 --> 00:09:56,860 and teach classes across the ideological divide. 185 00:09:57,029 --> 00:09:59,217 Many professors are already on board. 186 00:09:59,482 --> 00:10:01,243 One organization, Heterodox Academy, 187 00:10:01,273 --> 00:10:04,810 was founded in 2015 by a progressive scholar. 188 00:10:04,836 --> 00:10:07,572 It already has several thousand members. 189 00:10:08,089 --> 00:10:10,482 These faculty believe that viewpoint diversity 190 00:10:10,515 --> 00:10:12,563 is in their own self-interest 191 00:10:12,577 --> 00:10:16,245 because it makes them better teachers and scholars. 192 00:10:17,795 --> 00:10:22,067 But there's a deeper lesson for all of us whether we're on campus or not. 193 00:10:22,692 --> 00:10:25,419 We all need to get out of our comfortable political silos 194 00:10:25,449 --> 00:10:27,311 on Facebook or Twitter. 195 00:10:28,590 --> 00:10:30,641 Think about the close, personal friendship 196 00:10:30,661 --> 00:10:33,251 between the conservative Justice Antonin Scalia 197 00:10:33,263 --> 00:10:35,704 and the liberal Justice Ruth Bader Ginsburg, 198 00:10:35,752 --> 00:10:38,057 (Applause and cheers) 199 00:10:38,067 --> 00:10:40,588 the notorious RBG, as she's known. 200 00:10:40,607 --> 00:10:42,417 (Laughter) 201 00:10:43,337 --> 00:10:45,118 Before Justice Scalia died, 202 00:10:45,132 --> 00:10:48,748 there were hardly two people on the Court who disagreed more 203 00:10:48,766 --> 00:10:51,297 about how to interpret the Constitution. 204 00:10:51,328 --> 00:10:54,552 But there were no closer friends on the Court either. 205 00:10:54,920 --> 00:10:57,477 In fact, they also had a traveling roadshow, 206 00:10:57,497 --> 00:10:59,119 where they went around the country 207 00:10:59,119 --> 00:11:01,799 and talked about how they disagreed just about everything 208 00:11:01,829 --> 00:11:04,589 when it came to politics or constitutional interpretation. 209 00:11:04,620 --> 00:11:08,502 Their odd-couple relationship even inspired someone to write an opera 210 00:11:08,535 --> 00:11:10,532 about their peculiar friendship. 211 00:11:10,584 --> 00:11:12,083 (Laughter) 212 00:11:12,842 --> 00:11:15,025 When Justice Scalia died, 213 00:11:15,507 --> 00:11:19,432 Justice Ginsburg wrote a moving tribute to the man she called her best buddy. 214 00:11:20,010 --> 00:11:23,548 She said, "We disagreed now and then." 215 00:11:23,807 --> 00:11:25,328 (Laughter) 216 00:11:25,368 --> 00:11:28,991 That's a significant understatement for anyone who studies the Supreme Court, 217 00:11:29,659 --> 00:11:33,836 but she said whenever Scalia dissented from her opinions, 218 00:11:33,843 --> 00:11:36,642 it always made them better 219 00:11:36,936 --> 00:11:40,970 because Scalia nailed all the weak spots. 220 00:11:42,317 --> 00:11:44,168 We all need friends like that. 221 00:11:44,958 --> 00:11:48,100 We can't really do our jobs as citizens without them. 222 00:11:49,525 --> 00:11:50,540 In the end, 223 00:11:50,553 --> 00:11:54,274 what happens in the ivory tower doesn't stay in the ivory tower 224 00:11:54,807 --> 00:11:57,842 because today's student is tomorrow's leader. 225 00:11:58,617 --> 00:12:03,284 A diversity of ideas will make us better leaders, neighbors, voters, 226 00:12:03,993 --> 00:12:06,250 but only if we get a chance to hear them. 227 00:12:06,719 --> 00:12:07,841 Thank you. 228 00:12:07,852 --> 00:12:10,396 (Applause)