[Script Info] Title: [Events] Format: Layer, Start, End, Style, Name, MarginL, MarginR, MarginV, Effect, Text Dialogue: 0,0:00:05.21,0:00:07.67,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,This is a good one for a certain reason Dialogue: 0,0:00:07.67,0:00:09.100,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that I want to try to draw out here. Dialogue: 0,0:00:09.100,0:00:12.51,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,"I have a guy at my job..." Dialogue: 0,0:00:12.51,0:00:16.58,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,This is coming from Ty. Dialogue: 0,0:00:16.58,0:00:17.93,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,"I have a guy at my job Dialogue: 0,0:00:17.93,0:00:20.35,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,who claimed to be a Christian..." Dialogue: 0,0:00:20.35,0:00:23.10,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,past tense. Dialogue: 0,0:00:23.10,0:00:25.17,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I don't know that he's stopped claiming Dialogue: 0,0:00:25.17,0:00:26.88,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to be a Christian. Dialogue: 0,0:00:26.88,0:00:28.36,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,"I believed him at first Dialogue: 0,0:00:28.36,0:00:30.84,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and accepted him as a brother. Dialogue: 0,0:00:30.84,0:00:34.53,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I started to see who he really was. Dialogue: 0,0:00:34.53,0:00:37.60,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,After months, I rebuked him. Dialogue: 0,0:00:37.60,0:00:40.91,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,His language and actions got worse. Dialogue: 0,0:00:40.91,0:00:42.44,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I voiced to him I didn't believe Dialogue: 0,0:00:42.44,0:00:46.89,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,he was born again." Dialogue: 0,0:00:46.89,0:00:49.42,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,(incomplete thought) Dialogue: 0,0:00:49.42,0:00:53.31,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And he references 1 Corinthians 5 Dialogue: 0,0:00:53.31,0:00:59.37,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,concerning avoiding people. Dialogue: 0,0:00:59.37,0:01:02.51,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,"Even after this, he continues to try Dialogue: 0,0:01:02.51,0:01:04.61,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to converse with me." Dialogue: 0,0:01:04.61,0:01:07.41,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So basically, he's taking a \N1 Corinthians 5 position Dialogue: 0,0:01:07.41,0:01:10.78,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,with this guy not to associate with him. Dialogue: 0,0:01:10.78,0:01:15.46,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,"How do you handle or \Navoid such a person?" Dialogue: 0,0:01:15.46,0:01:20.38,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Now the question I want \Nto ask everybody is this: Dialogue: 0,0:01:20.38,0:01:24.37,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Does Matthew 18 - Dialogue: 0,0:01:24.37,0:01:26.05,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,where if somebody sins against me, Dialogue: 0,0:01:26.05,0:01:26.98,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I should go to him; Dialogue: 0,0:01:26.98,0:01:28.29,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and if they don't hear me, Dialogue: 0,0:01:28.29,0:01:29.74,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I should take two or three; Dialogue: 0,0:01:29.74,0:01:30.97,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,if they don't hear me, Dialogue: 0,0:01:30.97,0:01:32.79,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I should take it before the church; Dialogue: 0,0:01:32.79,0:01:34.28,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,if they don't hear us, Dialogue: 0,0:01:34.28,0:01:39.46,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,we treat them like a tax collector; Dialogue: 0,0:01:39.46,0:01:43.02,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and then 1 Corinthians Dialogue: 0,0:01:43.02,0:01:46.31,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,where you have somebody that sins - Dialogue: 0,0:01:46.31,0:01:48.22,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,it's more overt; it's more public - Dialogue: 0,0:01:48.22,0:01:50.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,it doesn't need to be dealt with Dialogue: 0,0:01:50.00,0:01:52.30,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,in more of a concealed, Dialogue: 0,0:01:52.30,0:01:54.22,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,slowly-evolving fashion. Dialogue: 0,0:01:54.22,0:01:56.65,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It's so public Dialogue: 0,0:01:56.65,0:02:00.02,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that you put the person out \Nof the church immediately. Dialogue: 0,0:02:00.02,0:02:02.60,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Here's my question. Dialogue: 0,0:02:02.60,0:02:04.77,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I recognize his question is Dialogue: 0,0:02:04.77,0:02:07.06,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,how do you avoid a person Dialogue: 0,0:02:07.06,0:02:08.40,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that you work with? Dialogue: 0,0:02:08.40,0:02:11.15,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,We can get to that in a moment. Dialogue: 0,0:02:11.15,0:02:15.18,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But the question I would ask is this: Dialogue: 0,0:02:15.18,0:02:20.82,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Should we even use Matthew 18 Dialogue: 0,0:02:20.82,0:02:25.42,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and 1 Corinthians 5 in the workplace? Dialogue: 0,0:02:25.42,0:02:28.72,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Is that for the church? Dialogue: 0,0:02:28.72,0:02:30.98,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And life in the church? Dialogue: 0,0:02:30.98,0:02:35.13,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Should we carry that \Nover to the workplace? Dialogue: 0,0:02:35.13,0:02:41.40,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Should we carry that over to school? Dialogue: 0,0:02:41.40,0:02:43.100,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Should we carry that over to the family? Dialogue: 0,0:02:43.100,0:02:47.03,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Should we carry that over to Dialogue: 0,0:02:47.03,0:02:49.56,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,like the women's Grace House? Dialogue: 0,0:02:49.56,0:02:51.23,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Should we do that? Dialogue: 0,0:02:51.23,0:02:57.40,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Is that proper? Dialogue: 0,0:02:57.40,0:02:59.86,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,What do you think? Dialogue: 0,0:02:59.86,0:03:00.83,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,(from the room) Dialogue: 0,0:03:00.83,0:03:02.90,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,What's his brother? Dialogue: 0,0:03:02.90,0:03:08.97,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Probably somebody who \Nis a professing Christian? Dialogue: 0,0:03:08.97,0:03:13.63,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,(unintelligible) Dialogue: 0,0:03:13.63,0:03:18.18,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Tim: Okay, so if we \Nthink about Matthew 18, Dialogue: 0,0:03:18.18,0:03:20.64,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,it says specifically, Dialogue: 0,0:03:20.64,0:03:24.03,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,"if a brother sins against you..." Dialogue: 0,0:03:24.03,0:03:26.28,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Then what's the whole point? Dialogue: 0,0:03:26.28,0:03:28.41,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Trying to gain your brother. Dialogue: 0,0:03:28.41,0:03:29.52,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Specifically - brother. Dialogue: 0,0:03:29.52,0:03:34.44,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,In 1 Corinthians 5, the idea is Dialogue: 0,0:03:34.44,0:03:37.24,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,anybody who calls himself a brother. Dialogue: 0,0:03:37.24,0:03:41.58,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So, what do you think? Dialogue: 0,0:03:41.58,0:03:45.33,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Here's the question I would ask. Dialogue: 0,0:03:45.33,0:03:54.23,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Okay, we are on the \Nfringes of the Bible belt. Dialogue: 0,0:03:54.23,0:03:56.64,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,If every single person Dialogue: 0,0:03:56.64,0:04:01.82,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,who claimed to be a Christian, Dialogue: 0,0:04:01.82,0:04:03.28,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but didn't live like one, Dialogue: 0,0:04:03.28,0:04:06.52,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,if we automatically \Ndisassociate ourselves - Dialogue: 0,0:04:06.52,0:04:10.02,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,outside of the church - Dialogue: 0,0:04:10.02,0:04:13.63,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Look, if you go to your workplace,\Nyou go to your school, Dialogue: 0,0:04:13.63,0:04:15.12,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,you go to the HEB you shop at, Dialogue: 0,0:04:15.12,0:04:16.86,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and you just start asking people: Dialogue: 0,0:04:16.86,0:04:18.05,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,"Are you a Christian?" Dialogue: 0,0:04:18.05,0:04:20.33,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And then you start asking \Nthem about their life, Dialogue: 0,0:04:20.33,0:04:24.16,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,do you know what you're going \Nto find? 99.9% of the time, Dialogue: 0,0:04:24.16,0:04:28.50,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,their life does not measure up Dialogue: 0,0:04:28.50,0:04:31.82,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to true biblical Christianity. Dialogue: 0,0:04:31.82,0:04:34.32,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And if you take those principles Dialogue: 0,0:04:34.32,0:04:35.68,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and you apply them, Dialogue: 0,0:04:35.68,0:04:38.79,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,especially in a country like ours, Dialogue: 0,0:04:38.79,0:04:40.40,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,you know what you're going to do? Dialogue: 0,0:04:40.40,0:04:42.20,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,You're going to end up disassociating Dialogue: 0,0:04:42.20,0:04:43.66,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,with all manner of people Dialogue: 0,0:04:43.66,0:04:47.25,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that you ought to be evangelizing. Dialogue: 0,0:04:47.25,0:04:50.50,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So I think we need to be careful, Dialogue: 0,0:04:50.50,0:04:56.18,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,because I don't think we \Nwant to fall into that. Dialogue: 0,0:04:56.18,0:04:59.24,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Here's one thing to think about. Dialogue: 0,0:04:59.24,0:05:04.82,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The church that we're in - Dialogue: 0,0:05:04.82,0:05:07.20,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I'll tell you this, we have an expectation Dialogue: 0,0:05:07.20,0:05:10.30,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that people that are within \Nthe walls of our church Dialogue: 0,0:05:10.30,0:05:13.30,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,actually are people who have been Dialogue: 0,0:05:13.30,0:05:15.87,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,exposed to the truth, Dialogue: 0,0:05:15.87,0:05:18.43,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and actually do have some idea Dialogue: 0,0:05:18.43,0:05:20.34,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,about what it is to be a Christian, Dialogue: 0,0:05:20.34,0:05:23.34,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to be a brother or a sister in the Lord. Dialogue: 0,0:05:23.34,0:05:26.93,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,There is massive ignorance out there. Dialogue: 0,0:05:26.93,0:05:28.30,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Now, I know this country Dialogue: 0,0:05:28.30,0:05:29.52,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,is becoming burned over, Dialogue: 0,0:05:29.52,0:05:33.85,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and I know atheism (incomplete thought). Dialogue: 0,0:05:33.85,0:05:37.03,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But if you ask people \Nif they're Christians, Dialogue: 0,0:05:37.03,0:05:38.58,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,what do you think? Dialogue: 0,0:05:38.58,0:05:41.32,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,What do you think if you walked\Nup and down these streets, Dialogue: 0,0:05:41.32,0:05:44.03,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and you just started asking \Npeople one after another, Dialogue: 0,0:05:44.03,0:05:45.30,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,"are you Christians?" Dialogue: 0,0:05:45.30,0:05:47.33,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,What do you think a percentage would be Dialogue: 0,0:05:47.33,0:05:51.40,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that would say yes? Dialogue: 0,0:05:51.40,0:05:53.08,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Pretty high. Dialogue: 0,0:05:53.08,0:05:54.64,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Those are exactly the people Dialogue: 0,0:05:54.64,0:05:56.73,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that we should be being lights to. Dialogue: 0,0:05:56.73,0:05:58.06,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Those are exactly the people Dialogue: 0,0:05:58.06,0:06:00.28,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that what we want to do Dialogue: 0,0:06:00.28,0:06:02.30,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,is we want to seek to help Dialogue: 0,0:06:02.30,0:06:03.70,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,bring those people Dialogue: 0,0:06:03.70,0:06:06.02,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,out of their ignorance Dialogue: 0,0:06:06.02,0:06:09.43,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and out of their darkness. Dialogue: 0,0:06:09.43,0:06:11.42,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Here's the thing, Dialogue: 0,0:06:11.42,0:06:13.91,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the picture of Matthew 18 Dialogue: 0,0:06:13.91,0:06:17.60,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,is kind of like of two brothers Dialogue: 0,0:06:17.60,0:06:19.25,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,who are close, Dialogue: 0,0:06:19.25,0:06:21.75,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,in a church, Dialogue: 0,0:06:21.75,0:06:23.08,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and we lose a brother, Dialogue: 0,0:06:23.08,0:06:24.61,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,because isn't that what \Nwe're trying to do? Dialogue: 0,0:06:24.61,0:06:26.39,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Gain our brother? Dialogue: 0,0:06:26.39,0:06:27.63,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,How do you lose him? Dialogue: 0,0:06:27.63,0:06:30.13,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Well, because there's sin \Nbetween the two of you. Dialogue: 0,0:06:30.13,0:06:32.94,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But the idea is you've got \Ntwo people that are close Dialogue: 0,0:06:32.94,0:06:37.28,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and they're together in the same church, Dialogue: 0,0:06:37.28,0:06:38.70,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and they've sinned, Dialogue: 0,0:06:38.70,0:06:40.56,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and they're seeking reconciliation. Dialogue: 0,0:06:40.56,0:06:42.37,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,If you think about the emphasis Dialogue: 0,0:06:42.37,0:06:45.08,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,there in 1 Corinthians 5, Dialogue: 0,0:06:45.08,0:06:47.04,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,we don't want the leaven. Dialogue: 0,0:06:47.04,0:06:49.82,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,We don't want the leaven in the church. Dialogue: 0,0:06:49.82,0:06:52.11,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But you see, the truth is, Dialogue: 0,0:06:52.11,0:06:53.66,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the guy at work - Dialogue: 0,0:06:53.66,0:06:56.06,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,we're not allowing him in the church. Dialogue: 0,0:06:56.06,0:06:59.31,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,See, there's a whole difference here. Dialogue: 0,0:06:59.31,0:07:01.82,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It's not like the guy that you work with Dialogue: 0,0:07:01.82,0:07:05.06,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,shows up and wants to \Ntalk to James and myself Dialogue: 0,0:07:05.06,0:07:08.49,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and he's wanting to join the church. Dialogue: 0,0:07:08.49,0:07:10.02,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,That's not what's happening. Dialogue: 0,0:07:10.02,0:07:12.01,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It's not like we let him into the church Dialogue: 0,0:07:12.01,0:07:13.73,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and now this has happened. Dialogue: 0,0:07:13.73,0:07:17.88,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,These are people that are outside. Dialogue: 0,0:07:17.88,0:07:19.01,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And the thing is, Dialogue: 0,0:07:19.01,0:07:22.82,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,yes, you could say, Dialogue: 0,0:07:22.82,0:07:24.59,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,you know what? Dialogue: 0,0:07:24.59,0:07:26.52,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Leaven. Dialogue: 0,0:07:26.52,0:07:28.71,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,That's influence. Dialogue: 0,0:07:28.71,0:07:32.91,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,You could say that somebody Dialogue: 0,0:07:32.91,0:07:35.34,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,is having an influence on you Dialogue: 0,0:07:35.34,0:07:36.34,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that's not good Dialogue: 0,0:07:36.34,0:07:37.93,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and you need to avoid them. Dialogue: 0,0:07:37.93,0:07:40.23,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But see, I would say that's true Dialogue: 0,0:07:40.23,0:07:42.67,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,saved or lost. Dialogue: 0,0:07:42.67,0:07:44.17,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I mean, when I first got saved, Dialogue: 0,0:07:44.17,0:07:45.43,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I thought I could hang out Dialogue: 0,0:07:45.43,0:07:46.50,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,with my lost buddies Dialogue: 0,0:07:46.50,0:07:52.05,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and I really did want to evangelize them. Dialogue: 0,0:07:52.05,0:07:54.18,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But you know where I \Nwas evangelizing them? Dialogue: 0,0:07:54.18,0:07:55.84,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,In the bars. Dialogue: 0,0:07:55.84,0:07:58.06,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,You look at that now and you'd laugh. Dialogue: 0,0:07:58.06,0:08:00.54,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But coming out of the \Nlifestyle that I came out of, Dialogue: 0,0:08:00.54,0:08:02.08,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that wasn't laughable. Dialogue: 0,0:08:02.08,0:08:04.69,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I mean, that's what we did all the time. Dialogue: 0,0:08:04.69,0:08:08.18,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And that's where my friends were. Dialogue: 0,0:08:08.18,0:08:10.36,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And I wanted to tell them the truth. Dialogue: 0,0:08:10.36,0:08:12.03,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And I would say before the Lord, Dialogue: 0,0:08:12.03,0:08:16.06,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Lord, I'm only going to \Nhave two beers tonight. Dialogue: 0,0:08:16.06,0:08:18.05,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And I'd have four. Dialogue: 0,0:08:18.05,0:08:19.86,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Well, as much as I drank back then, Dialogue: 0,0:08:19.86,0:08:21.36,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that didn't get me drunk, Dialogue: 0,0:08:21.36,0:08:23.32,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but you know what? I didn't keep my word. Dialogue: 0,0:08:23.32,0:08:26.20,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So I'd come home grieved. Dialogue: 0,0:08:26.20,0:08:27.79,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And that happened enough times Dialogue: 0,0:08:27.79,0:08:30.82,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,where I thought, you know what? Dialogue: 0,0:08:30.82,0:08:32.44,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I've talked to these guys Dialogue: 0,0:08:32.44,0:08:34.73,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and I'm not being a good \Ninfluence on them. Dialogue: 0,0:08:34.73,0:08:36.92,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,They're being a bad one on me. Dialogue: 0,0:08:36.92,0:08:39.83,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And I'd recognize I'm not capable Dialogue: 0,0:08:39.83,0:08:43.44,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,of doing this anymore. Dialogue: 0,0:08:43.44,0:08:45.74,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But I think that's a big question to ask. Dialogue: 0,0:08:45.74,0:08:48.61,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Because that seems to be the issue - Dialogue: 0,0:08:48.61,0:08:49.75,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,leaven. Dialogue: 0,0:08:49.75,0:08:51.69,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It seems to be the issue. Dialogue: 0,0:08:51.69,0:08:58.18,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,(incomplete thought) Dialogue: 0,0:08:58.18,0:09:04.07,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And I think we need to ask that. Dialogue: 0,0:09:04.07,0:09:08.73,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Is there a place to do what he did? Dialogue: 0,0:09:08.73,0:09:10.32,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,You've got somebody telling you Dialogue: 0,0:09:10.32,0:09:11.63,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,they're a Christian, Dialogue: 0,0:09:11.63,0:09:14.29,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and you're looking, watching their life Dialogue: 0,0:09:14.29,0:09:16.52,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and it doesn't seem to be very Christian - Dialogue: 0,0:09:16.52,0:09:19.77,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to say, "I don't think you're born again"? Dialogue: 0,0:09:19.77,0:09:23.23,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Do we have a right to \Njudge people like that? Dialogue: 0,0:09:23.23,0:09:26.27,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Yeah, you better believe we do. Dialogue: 0,0:09:26.27,0:09:29.44,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Scripture says that we do. Dialogue: 0,0:09:29.44,0:09:30.78,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Let me ask you this. Dialogue: 0,0:09:30.78,0:09:33.93,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Where does it say that we do? Dialogue: 0,0:09:33.93,0:09:36.53,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Where is there judgment \Nshown in Scripture? Dialogue: 0,0:09:36.53,0:09:37.30,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,(from the room) Dialogue: 0,0:09:37.30,0:09:39.73,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Judge a tree by its fruit. Dialogue: 0,0:09:39.73,0:09:41.34,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Tim: That's one place. Dialogue: 0,0:09:41.34,0:09:46.52,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Can anybody think of anywhere else? Dialogue: 0,0:09:46.52,0:09:48.02,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Or even where Scripture Dialogue: 0,0:09:48.02,0:09:49.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,just dogmatically makes a statement Dialogue: 0,0:09:49.99,0:09:51.16,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,about somebody? Dialogue: 0,0:09:51.16,0:09:53.24,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Now, we might say, that's God's Word Dialogue: 0,0:09:53.24,0:09:55.32,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and God has the right to make a statement, Dialogue: 0,0:09:55.32,0:09:59.17,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but I mean, the truth is Dialogue: 0,0:09:59.17,0:10:00.94,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,sometimes it's God's men - Dialogue: 0,0:10:00.94,0:10:02.43,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,yes, they're under inspiration, Dialogue: 0,0:10:02.43,0:10:04.72,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but they're making \Nobservations about the church Dialogue: 0,0:10:04.72,0:10:07.95,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and they're dogmatically \Nmaking statements, Dialogue: 0,0:10:07.95,0:10:10.70,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,such as... anybody think of any? Dialogue: 0,0:10:10.70,0:10:11.70,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,(from the room) Dialogue: 0,0:10:11.70,0:10:14.33,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,They told Simon, "your heart \Nis not right before God." Dialogue: 0,0:10:14.33,0:10:16.51,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Tim: See, there's a situation right there. Dialogue: 0,0:10:16.51,0:10:18.60,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,You've got Peter and he comes face-to-face Dialogue: 0,0:10:18.60,0:10:20.74,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,with a guy who Scripture says Dialogue: 0,0:10:20.74,0:10:22.65,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,believed and was baptized Dialogue: 0,0:10:22.65,0:10:24.58,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,under Phillip's preaching. Dialogue: 0,0:10:24.58,0:10:26.88,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And Peter comes along and says, Dialogue: 0,0:10:26.88,0:10:28.93,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,"You're going to perish." Dialogue: 0,0:10:28.93,0:10:30.10,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,(from the room) Dialogue: 0,0:10:30.10,0:10:31.78,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,He even said "your heart." Dialogue: 0,0:10:31.78,0:10:34.45,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It's like he judges the heart right there. Dialogue: 0,0:10:34.45,0:10:36.35,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Tim: Right. Dialogue: 0,0:10:36.35,0:10:38.64,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Can you think of anywhere else? Dialogue: 0,0:10:38.64,0:10:39.62,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,(from the room) Dialogue: 0,0:10:39.62,0:10:41.90,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I'm thinking in the sense of Paul Dialogue: 0,0:10:41.90,0:10:43.58,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,when he went to Galatia. Dialogue: 0,0:10:43.58,0:10:47.91,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,There were these professing Judaizers. Dialogue: 0,0:10:47.91,0:10:50.09,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Tim: Yeah, there's these guys preaching Dialogue: 0,0:10:50.09,0:10:54.12,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,error to the Galatians, and he's says Dialogue: 0,0:10:54.12,0:10:57.94,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,some of the strongest things he ever says. Dialogue: 0,0:10:57.94,0:10:59.67,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,They're talking about circumcision Dialogue: 0,0:10:59.67,0:11:04.02,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and he's saying some - Dialogue: 0,0:11:04.02,0:11:05.18,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,in the vernacular, Dialogue: 0,0:11:05.18,0:11:11.14,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,it was pretty rough language. Dialogue: 0,0:11:11.14,0:11:12.67,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,You have John. Dialogue: 0,0:11:12.67,0:11:14.26,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,He says they went out from us Dialogue: 0,0:11:14.26,0:11:15.77,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and they weren't of us. Dialogue: 0,0:11:15.77,0:11:17.25,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And he can make that judgment. Dialogue: 0,0:11:17.25,0:11:18.75,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,He says if they were of us, Dialogue: 0,0:11:18.75,0:11:20.66,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,they would not have gone out from us. Dialogue: 0,0:11:20.66,0:11:22.20,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And you know the reality is, Dialogue: 0,0:11:22.20,0:11:26.01,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,very, very seldom does anybody Dialogue: 0,0:11:26.01,0:11:28.48,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,leave our church who's genuine Dialogue: 0,0:11:28.48,0:11:30.21,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and goes off to another church. Dialogue: 0,0:11:30.21,0:11:32.84,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I mean, they leave because\Nthey don't like the church, Dialogue: 0,0:11:32.84,0:11:35.56,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,they don't like the teaching,\Nthey don't like something. Dialogue: 0,0:11:35.56,0:11:37.94,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I'm not talking about a \Ntransfer or something. Dialogue: 0,0:11:37.94,0:11:41.13,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But they leave because they don't \Nlike something and they go off. Dialogue: 0,0:11:41.13,0:11:44.72,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Very seldom are they \Nlegitimate Christians. Dialogue: 0,0:11:44.72,0:11:48.31,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Most of the time, that reality is true. Dialogue: 0,0:11:48.31,0:11:50.66,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,They went out from us \Nbecause they weren't of us. Dialogue: 0,0:11:50.66,0:11:54.58,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,You know, we can think of Matt. Dialogue: 0,0:11:54.58,0:11:57.83,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,He left. Dialogue: 0,0:11:57.83,0:11:59.76,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,At first, you hope the best, Dialogue: 0,0:11:59.76,0:12:01.26,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but as time goes on, Dialogue: 0,0:12:01.26,0:12:05.21,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,he says he's not saved. Dialogue: 0,0:12:05.21,0:12:07.48,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,That's what happens. Dialogue: 0,0:12:07.48,0:12:10.05,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But Scripture talks this way. Dialogue: 0,0:12:10.05,0:12:12.66,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Scripture talks about people \Nthat make shipwreck. Dialogue: 0,0:12:12.66,0:12:14.31,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Scripture talks about people Dialogue: 0,0:12:14.31,0:12:17.18,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,who are not genuine. Dialogue: 0,0:12:17.18,0:12:18.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Scripture talks about false brethren. Dialogue: 0,0:12:18.99,0:12:21.16,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Scripture talks about those Dialogue: 0,0:12:21.16,0:12:23.48,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,who are tares. Dialogue: 0,0:12:23.48,0:12:26.63,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It talks that way. Dialogue: 0,0:12:26.63,0:12:30.27,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And as far as us making \Njudgments concerning it, Dialogue: 0,0:12:30.27,0:12:32.35,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I mean, look, there's oftentimes Dialogue: 0,0:12:32.35,0:12:35.72,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that the writers of \NScripture are charitable. Dialogue: 0,0:12:35.72,0:12:37.09,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,They're kind. Dialogue: 0,0:12:37.09,0:12:39.34,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I mean, Paul could \Nlook at the Corinthians, Dialogue: 0,0:12:39.34,0:12:41.95,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but he still said you need \Nto examine yourselves Dialogue: 0,0:12:41.95,0:12:43.82,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,whether you're in the faith. Dialogue: 0,0:12:43.82,0:12:45.28,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Why? Because some of them Dialogue: 0,0:12:45.28,0:12:46.81,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,were demonstrating lifestyles Dialogue: 0,0:12:46.81,0:12:53.35,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that were questionable at best. Dialogue: 0,0:12:53.35,0:12:54.20,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,(from the room) Dialogue: 0,0:12:54.20,0:12:55.54,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I have a question for you. Dialogue: 0,0:12:55.54,0:12:57.21,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Do you think there's a difference Dialogue: 0,0:12:57.21,0:12:59.44,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,between somebody who \Nif you were to ask him Dialogue: 0,0:12:59.44,0:13:01.95,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,would he call himself a Christian, Dialogue: 0,0:13:01.95,0:13:04.18,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but in a workplace wouldn't \Nsay that they are. Dialogue: 0,0:13:04.18,0:13:06.77,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,They don't tell other people \Nabout their Christianity, Dialogue: 0,0:13:06.77,0:13:08.35,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,versus someone who is very open Dialogue: 0,0:13:08.35,0:13:10.66,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,about being a Christian \Nand yet their lives Dialogue: 0,0:13:10.66,0:13:12.86,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,don't reflect that? Dialogue: 0,0:13:12.86,0:13:16.41,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Tim: Well, I think the big deal with that Dialogue: 0,0:13:16.41,0:13:19.06,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,is they dishonor Christ. Dialogue: 0,0:13:19.06,0:13:21.79,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,They dishonor the name of Christianity. Dialogue: 0,0:13:21.79,0:13:25.56,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,(incomplete thought) Dialogue: 0,0:13:25.56,0:13:28.05,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,If you've got a genuine \NChristian in the workplace, Dialogue: 0,0:13:28.05,0:13:29.46,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and then you've got somebody Dialogue: 0,0:13:29.46,0:13:30.73,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,who's a false Christian, Dialogue: 0,0:13:30.73,0:13:33.42,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and maybe they're even more vocal Dialogue: 0,0:13:33.42,0:13:37.02,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,about telling people they're a Christian. Dialogue: 0,0:13:37.02,0:13:39.64,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I'll tell you this, Dialogue: 0,0:13:39.64,0:13:44.16,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,we're just focusing down Dialogue: 0,0:13:44.16,0:13:46.19,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and narrowing down to the workplace. Dialogue: 0,0:13:46.19,0:13:48.25,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But the reality is the world out here Dialogue: 0,0:13:48.25,0:13:49.98,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,is exactly like that. Dialogue: 0,0:13:49.98,0:13:52.40,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And the thing is Dialogue: 0,0:13:52.40,0:13:56.21,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that yeah, the world loves to say, Dialogue: 0,0:13:56.21,0:13:58.83,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,"Aha! You're just like me." Dialogue: 0,0:13:58.83,0:14:00.34,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But you know what gets them? Dialogue: 0,0:14:00.34,0:14:03.83,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It's the guy over there \Nthat isn't like them. Dialogue: 0,0:14:03.83,0:14:05.11,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And you can go around Dialogue: 0,0:14:05.11,0:14:07.35,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,finding all the counterfeit \Ndollars all day - Dialogue: 0,0:14:07.35,0:14:10.90,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,don't you have a \Ncounterfeit dollar in there? Dialogue: 0,0:14:10.90,0:14:12.60,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,That's a true one. Dialogue: 0,0:14:12.60,0:14:15.20,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,See, you can have a bunch \Nof counterfeit money, Dialogue: 0,0:14:15.20,0:14:17.59,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but it doesn't negate the real one. Dialogue: 0,0:14:17.59,0:14:19.86,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And that's the problem. Dialogue: 0,0:14:19.86,0:14:20.81,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,You know what? Dialogue: 0,0:14:20.81,0:14:23.26,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,You go in a workplace, you go in a school, Dialogue: 0,0:14:23.26,0:14:25.46,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,you go wherever you go, Dialogue: 0,0:14:25.46,0:14:28.84,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,if you act the part of the real Christian, Dialogue: 0,0:14:28.84,0:14:30.84,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and you walk in the fear of God, Dialogue: 0,0:14:30.84,0:14:31.89,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and you're honest Dialogue: 0,0:14:31.89,0:14:34.10,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and you show integrity, Dialogue: 0,0:14:34.10,0:14:36.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,you'll stand out. Dialogue: 0,0:14:36.00,0:14:38.48,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,People see it. Dialogue: 0,0:14:38.48,0:14:40.44,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And they know. Dialogue: 0,0:14:40.44,0:14:41.34,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And they can mock Dialogue: 0,0:14:41.34,0:14:42.95,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and they can carry on Dialogue: 0,0:14:42.95,0:14:46.42,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,about the false guy, Dialogue: 0,0:14:46.42,0:14:50.82,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but you are a thorn in their side, Dialogue: 0,0:14:50.82,0:14:52.12,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,because they don't like it. Dialogue: 0,0:14:52.12,0:14:53.86,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Because it condemns them. Dialogue: 0,0:14:53.86,0:14:54.84,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,That's the reality. Dialogue: 0,0:14:54.84,0:14:56.67,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It condemns them. Dialogue: 0,0:14:56.67,0:14:58.93,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,When I got saved, Dialogue: 0,0:14:58.93,0:15:02.52,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,my friends had to come \Nup with explanations for it. Dialogue: 0,0:15:02.52,0:15:07.52,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Well, you know what they say. Dialogue: 0,0:15:07.52,0:15:10.62,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,"This isn't going to last long." Dialogue: 0,0:15:10.62,0:15:13.07,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,"He'll get over this." Dialogue: 0,0:15:13.07,0:15:14.51,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It's always something. Dialogue: 0,0:15:14.51,0:15:16.70,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,(incomplete thought) Dialogue: 0,0:15:16.70,0:15:19.42,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The last time I was up there - Dialogue: 0,0:15:19.42,0:15:21.64,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,one of the last times - Dialogue: 0,0:15:21.64,0:15:26.03,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and I had a group of the \Nguys gathered around, Dialogue: 0,0:15:26.03,0:15:30.81,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I said uh huh... it's been 20 years, Dialogue: 0,0:15:30.81,0:15:33.77,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and I'm still following Christ. Dialogue: 0,0:15:33.77,0:15:36.86,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And they threw all their theories out. Dialogue: 0,0:15:36.86,0:15:39.50,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And I got to preach to them Dialogue: 0,0:15:39.50,0:15:41.50,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,about being born again. Dialogue: 0,0:15:41.50,0:15:45.83,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And the thing is it's like Dialogue: 0,0:15:45.83,0:15:48.36,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,they've got to come up with \Nsome kind of explanation. Dialogue: 0,0:15:48.36,0:15:51.95,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Because they know - Dialogue: 0,0:15:51.95,0:15:55.13,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,they know something happened to me. Dialogue: 0,0:15:55.13,0:15:57.63,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And if you can't explain that away, Dialogue: 0,0:15:57.63,0:16:01.63,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,(incomplete thought) Dialogue: 0,0:16:01.63,0:16:03.66,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Well, I think I'm okay, Dialogue: 0,0:16:03.66,0:16:06.10,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but something happened to him, Dialogue: 0,0:16:06.10,0:16:08.78,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and it didn't happen to me. Dialogue: 0,0:16:08.78,0:16:14.53,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And if that's the real \Nthing, I'm in trouble. Dialogue: 0,0:16:14.53,0:16:15.53,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,(from the room) Dialogue: 0,0:16:15.53,0:16:17.23,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Brother, I had a text Dialogue: 0,0:16:17.23,0:16:19.41,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,if you don't mind if I share it. Dialogue: 0,0:16:19.41,0:16:21.02,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It's 2 John 9, it says, Dialogue: 0,0:16:21.02,0:16:22.85,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,"Everyone who goes on ahead Dialogue: 0,0:16:22.85,0:16:25.11,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and does not abide in \Nthe teaching of Christ Dialogue: 0,0:16:25.11,0:16:26.34,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,does not have God. Dialogue: 0,0:16:26.34,0:16:27.87,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Whoever abides in the teaching Dialogue: 0,0:16:27.87,0:16:29.46,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,has both the Father and the Son. Dialogue: 0,0:16:29.46,0:16:30.72,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,If anyone comes to you Dialogue: 0,0:16:30.72,0:16:32.30,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and does not bring this teaching, Dialogue: 0,0:16:32.30,0:16:33.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,do not receive him into your house Dialogue: 0,0:16:33.99,0:16:35.28,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,or give him any greeting. Dialogue: 0,0:16:35.28,0:16:37.47,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,For whoever greets him takes part Dialogue: 0,0:16:37.47,0:16:40.22,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,in his wicked works." Dialogue: 0,0:16:40.22,0:16:42.18,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,That might be more so teaching, Dialogue: 0,0:16:42.18,0:16:45.02,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,(unintelligible) Dialogue: 0,0:16:45.02,0:16:46.95,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Tim: Well, that definitely is teaching. Dialogue: 0,0:16:46.95,0:16:48.87,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,They're going on ahead. Dialogue: 0,0:16:48.87,0:16:52.19,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,What they're doing is \Nthey're leaving behind Dialogue: 0,0:16:52.19,0:16:54.44,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,this deposit of faith Dialogue: 0,0:16:54.44,0:16:56.74,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that's once been delivered Dialogue: 0,0:16:56.74,0:16:58.36,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to the people of God. Dialogue: 0,0:16:58.36,0:17:00.35,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And they're moving beyond that. Dialogue: 0,0:17:00.35,0:17:02.78,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,You don't want to be innovative. Dialogue: 0,0:17:02.78,0:17:05.14,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,This is the same truth that has been Dialogue: 0,0:17:05.14,0:17:07.01,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,believed for 2,000 years Dialogue: 0,0:17:07.01,0:17:11.89,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and handed down. Dialogue: 0,0:17:11.89,0:17:14.41,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,What I would say there Dialogue: 0,0:17:14.41,0:17:20.06,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,is obviously that is the kind of thing Dialogue: 0,0:17:20.06,0:17:25.85,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,where what you want to be sensitive to Dialogue: 0,0:17:25.85,0:17:32.95,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,is somehow encouraging them Dialogue: 0,0:17:32.95,0:17:36.66,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,or applauding them, Dialogue: 0,0:17:36.66,0:17:39.85,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,somehow sanctioning what they're doing. Dialogue: 0,0:17:39.85,0:17:41.66,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,If a Jehovah's Witness or a Mormon Dialogue: 0,0:17:41.66,0:17:42.56,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,comes to my door, Dialogue: 0,0:17:42.56,0:17:45.81,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I will not shake their hand. Dialogue: 0,0:17:45.81,0:17:52.97,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But, if I had a flat tire \Nand a guy pulled over Dialogue: 0,0:17:52.97,0:17:54.89,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and I became aware he was a Mormon, Dialogue: 0,0:17:54.89,0:17:56.49,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and he helped me fix the tire, Dialogue: 0,0:17:56.49,0:17:58.41,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and he wasn't there preaching at me Dialogue: 0,0:17:58.41,0:18:00.66,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,about his false doctrine, Dialogue: 0,0:18:00.66,0:18:02.93,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I would shake his hand when I was done. Dialogue: 0,0:18:02.93,0:18:04.87,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Why? Because I'm not encouraging Dialogue: 0,0:18:04.87,0:18:07.11,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,his false teaching. Dialogue: 0,0:18:07.11,0:18:08.82,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I think that's the issue there. Dialogue: 0,0:18:08.82,0:18:11.66,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I don't think it means Dialogue: 0,0:18:11.66,0:18:14.68,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that if you find out \Nsomebody's a Catholic, Dialogue: 0,0:18:14.68,0:18:16.01,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,well, "oh, that's heresy! Dialogue: 0,0:18:16.01,0:18:17.85,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,That's damnable! Dialogue: 0,0:18:17.85,0:18:19.11,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Mary worship! Dialogue: 0,0:18:19.11,0:18:21.71,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,They believe in works. Dialogue: 0,0:18:21.71,0:18:23.78,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I can't shake your hand." Dialogue: 0,0:18:23.78,0:18:27.30,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I don't think that that's Dialogue: 0,0:18:27.30,0:18:29.07,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,what's being called for there, Dialogue: 0,0:18:29.07,0:18:30.60,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but I think it's got to do with Dialogue: 0,0:18:30.60,0:18:34.11,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,directly endorsing or \Nencouraging their preaching. Dialogue: 0,0:18:34.11,0:18:35.89,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And when they're at your door Dialogue: 0,0:18:35.89,0:18:38.98,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,wanting to speak it, Dialogue: 0,0:18:38.98,0:18:41.90,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,assuming the best - Dialogue: 0,0:18:41.90,0:18:43.68,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,just two days ago, Dialogue: 0,0:18:43.68,0:18:45.34,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,a preacher showed up at the door. Dialogue: 0,0:18:45.34,0:18:46.38,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I saw this guy. Dialogue: 0,0:18:46.38,0:18:47.38,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It was strange - Dialogue: 0,0:18:47.38,0:18:49.58,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,my office is out here on the front. Dialogue: 0,0:18:49.58,0:18:51.17,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And I'm looking out the window Dialogue: 0,0:18:51.17,0:18:52.76,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and a guy - Dialogue: 0,0:18:52.76,0:18:56.84,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,now this field over here is contained. Dialogue: 0,0:18:56.84,0:18:58.80,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It's got fences all the way around it. Dialogue: 0,0:18:58.80,0:19:01.81,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So you don't come out \Nof the middle of that field Dialogue: 0,0:19:01.81,0:19:03.67,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,unless you purposely went out there. Dialogue: 0,0:19:03.67,0:19:06.44,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And there's a hill and \Nthere's trees out there. Dialogue: 0,0:19:06.44,0:19:08.23,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And I'm looking and a guy comes out Dialogue: 0,0:19:08.23,0:19:10.57,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,from underneath the trees. Dialogue: 0,0:19:10.57,0:19:11.98,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,What's this guy doing? Dialogue: 0,0:19:11.98,0:19:13.98,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And then he's making a bee line Dialogue: 0,0:19:13.98,0:19:15.60,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,straight towards my front door. Dialogue: 0,0:19:15.60,0:19:17.28,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So I'm watching him, watching him. Dialogue: 0,0:19:17.28,0:19:19.60,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I thought yeah, this \Nguy's coming to the door. Dialogue: 0,0:19:19.60,0:19:22.10,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So I run down and he's a preacher. Dialogue: 0,0:19:22.10,0:19:24.39,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And he was wanting to \Ninvite me to his church Dialogue: 0,0:19:24.39,0:19:26.65,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and I didn't ask him, Dialogue: 0,0:19:26.65,0:19:29.74,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,what were you doing under the trees? Dialogue: 0,0:19:29.74,0:19:32.44,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But I told him we have a \Nburden for the East side, Dialogue: 0,0:19:32.44,0:19:34.02,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and we go door-to-door Dialogue: 0,0:19:34.02,0:19:36.31,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and I got him one of the shocking DVD's Dialogue: 0,0:19:36.31,0:19:38.66,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and put it in his hand. Dialogue: 0,0:19:38.66,0:19:40.31,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I think I shook his hand. Dialogue: 0,0:19:40.31,0:19:42.57,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I don't know what he teaches. Dialogue: 0,0:19:42.57,0:19:44.32,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And we didn't really get into it. Dialogue: 0,0:19:44.32,0:19:47.24,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But I think there's a \Nplace for us to be kind. Dialogue: 0,0:19:47.24,0:19:50.46,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I don't think that the \Nplace of the Christian Dialogue: 0,0:19:50.46,0:19:57.77,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,(incomplete thought) Dialogue: 0,0:19:57.77,0:19:59.53,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I don't think it's the place Dialogue: 0,0:19:59.53,0:20:01.03,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to come across to the world Dialogue: 0,0:20:01.03,0:20:05.30,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,like we're sour, dour, mean. Dialogue: 0,0:20:05.30,0:20:08.28,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But, if somebody's dishonoring Christ Dialogue: 0,0:20:08.28,0:20:10.24,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and teaching another gospel, Dialogue: 0,0:20:10.24,0:20:11.39,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,don't endorse it. Dialogue: 0,0:20:11.39,0:20:14.23,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Don't shake their hands. Dialogue: 0,0:20:14.23,0:20:17.56,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,There's a place just to speak to them Dialogue: 0,0:20:17.56,0:20:19.42,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,like Paul spoke Dialogue: 0,0:20:19.42,0:20:21.43,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,because they're damning souls. Dialogue: 0,0:20:21.43,0:20:24.33,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,You smile and shake \Nthe hand of the Mormon, Dialogue: 0,0:20:24.33,0:20:25.92,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,what they are trying to do Dialogue: 0,0:20:25.92,0:20:28.70,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,is take your neighbors \Nto the pit with them. Dialogue: 0,0:20:28.70,0:20:30.19,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,They don't believe that, Dialogue: 0,0:20:30.19,0:20:36.46,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but that's exactly what it is. Dialogue: 0,0:20:36.46,0:20:38.08,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So I would just say this, Dialogue: 0,0:20:38.08,0:20:41.76,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,look, Christians, we live in the land Dialogue: 0,0:20:41.76,0:20:44.70,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,of false professions galore. Dialogue: 0,0:20:44.70,0:20:47.19,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,We need to be light in those situations. Dialogue: 0,0:20:47.19,0:20:50.93,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And I would not cut off \Nassociation with people Dialogue: 0,0:20:50.93,0:20:53.76,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,because somebody's got a false profession, Dialogue: 0,0:20:53.76,0:20:56.61,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,you being real may be the very thing Dialogue: 0,0:20:56.61,0:21:00.84,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that God will use to open their eyes. Dialogue: 0,0:21:00.84,0:21:02.98,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And you being mean to them Dialogue: 0,0:21:02.98,0:21:07.53,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,is not what does it. Dialogue: 0,0:21:07.53,0:21:09.32,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I mean, you think about it. Dialogue: 0,0:21:09.32,0:21:10.67,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,You think about Jesus Dialogue: 0,0:21:10.67,0:21:13.78,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and His interaction with like a Pharisee. Dialogue: 0,0:21:13.78,0:21:16.18,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,He'd go eat at their house. Dialogue: 0,0:21:16.18,0:21:17.61,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,What was that saying? Dialogue: 0,0:21:17.61,0:21:19.10,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Did he know that they held Dialogue: 0,0:21:19.10,0:21:21.15,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to some kind of Judaistic error? Dialogue: 0,0:21:21.15,0:21:22.61,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Of course He did. Dialogue: 0,0:21:22.61,0:21:25.24,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Did He know they were lost? Yes. Dialogue: 0,0:21:25.24,0:21:27.100,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And He would even in His \Nconversations with them, Dialogue: 0,0:21:27.100,0:21:30.15,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,after they called Him out, Dialogue: 0,0:21:30.15,0:21:32.34,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,said He had a devil, \Ncalled Him a Samaritan, Dialogue: 0,0:21:32.34,0:21:33.55,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,He was still saying, Dialogue: 0,0:21:33.55,0:21:35.78,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,"I say these things that \Nyou might be saved." Dialogue: 0,0:21:35.78,0:21:37.53,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,He's still showing a kindness Dialogue: 0,0:21:37.53,0:21:38.91,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and a compassion to them. Dialogue: 0,0:21:38.91,0:21:40.65,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,He wouldn't endorse their teaching. Dialogue: 0,0:21:40.65,0:21:43.06,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Paul wouldn't endorse their teaching.