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Dialogue: 0,0:00:07.42,0:00:10.30,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[Jeff Wall: An Impossible Photograph]
Dialogue: 0,0:00:11.28,0:00:13.06,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[INTERVIEWER, OFF SCREEN]\NSo let me just ask a question.
Dialogue: 0,0:00:13.86,0:00:15.78,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The gentleman on the wall there,
Dialogue: 0,0:00:15.79,0:00:17.78,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,who's looking in the plate-glass window,
Dialogue: 0,0:00:17.78,0:00:21.23,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and who has these incredible trousers on--
Dialogue: 0,0:00:22.32,0:00:23.26,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,did you make those trousers?
Dialogue: 0,0:00:23.26,0:00:24.70,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Did he make those trousers?
Dialogue: 0,0:00:24.70,0:00:26.88,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Did you impose those trousers on him?
Dialogue: 0,0:00:26.88,0:00:28.64,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Is there any artifice going on there?
Dialogue: 0,0:00:28.64,0:00:30.28,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,How do you describe that?
Dialogue: 0,0:00:30.52,0:00:32.28,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[JEFF WALL]\NIt's classified information.
Dialogue: 0,0:00:32.28,0:00:33.28,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[LAUGHS]
Dialogue: 0,0:00:33.66,0:00:35.84,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[INTERVIEWER]\NAnd the same of the other picture there,
Dialogue: 0,0:00:35.84,0:00:38.12,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,with the woman trying on the dress?
Dialogue: 0,0:00:38.76,0:00:40.42,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[WALL] That's also classified information.
Dialogue: 0,0:00:40.42,0:00:41.74,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,What you see happening, happened.
Dialogue: 0,0:00:42.32,0:00:43.72,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,That's all I have to tell you.
Dialogue: 0,0:00:44.60,0:00:47.12,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,How it happened is secondary
Dialogue: 0,0:00:47.12,0:00:48.50,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to the fact that it happened.
Dialogue: 0,0:00:49.70,0:00:52.86,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And let's imagine that\NI found this man on the sidewalk
Dialogue: 0,0:00:52.86,0:00:55.72,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and got him to do what he was already doing--
Dialogue: 0,0:00:56.50,0:00:59.14,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,or if I had elaborately reconstructed that--
Dialogue: 0,0:01:00.64,0:01:01.74,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,what's the difference?
Dialogue: 0,0:01:02.62,0:01:04.54,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I mean, there is obviously a difference
Dialogue: 0,0:01:04.54,0:01:06.92,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,factually, historically, and so on.
Dialogue: 0,0:01:06.92,0:01:09.60,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And in photography, that difference matters.
Dialogue: 0,0:01:09.60,0:01:11.34,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Artistically in photography,
Dialogue: 0,0:01:11.34,0:01:15.24,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,it can't matter any more than it does\Nin any other art form.
Dialogue: 0,0:01:16.94,0:01:19.06,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,In painting, it doesn't matter.
Dialogue: 0,0:01:19.07,0:01:20.75,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,In sculpture, it doesn't matter.
Dialogue: 0,0:01:20.75,0:01:22.84,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,In theater, it doesn't matter.
Dialogue: 0,0:01:22.84,0:01:24.29,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,In cinema, it doesn't matter.
Dialogue: 0,0:01:24.29,0:01:26.67,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It only matters in one art form,
Dialogue: 0,0:01:26.67,0:01:28.26,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and that's photography.
Dialogue: 0,0:01:28.26,0:01:30.66,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,That's why you have to deal with it.
Dialogue: 0,0:01:30.92,0:01:32.74,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[INTERVIEWER] Well, what was the starting point?
Dialogue: 0,0:01:34.50,0:01:35.24,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[WALL] Um...
Dialogue: 0,0:01:36.96,0:01:39.54,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Kind of a memory from thirty,\Nforty years ago
Dialogue: 0,0:01:39.94,0:01:41.92,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that came back unexpectedly.
Dialogue: 0,0:01:44.18,0:01:45.54,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,When I realized I liked the subject,
Dialogue: 0,0:01:45.54,0:01:48.60,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the question was,\N"How on earth could you photograph that?"
Dialogue: 0,0:01:49.28,0:01:53.98,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The impossibility of seeing it was\None of the triggers for it becoming interesting.
Dialogue: 0,0:01:57.12,0:01:59.60,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So, on that side of the dressing room,
Dialogue: 0,0:02:00.34,0:02:02.16,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,you know there will be a mirror,
Dialogue: 0,0:02:02.16,0:02:03.85,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,because on the opposite side is a curtain.
Dialogue: 0,0:02:04.22,0:02:05.38,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But it's not a mirror image,
Dialogue: 0,0:02:05.84,0:02:07.66,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,because if you look at the hangers,
Dialogue: 0,0:02:07.66,0:02:09.32,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,they say "Barneys" on them--
Dialogue: 0,0:02:09.94,0:02:10.84,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,not backwards.
Dialogue: 0,0:02:12.64,0:02:14.12,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The curtain is closed.
Dialogue: 0,0:02:14.52,0:02:17.80,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,No one has got access\Nto see into the dressing room.
Dialogue: 0,0:02:18.88,0:02:21.76,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,You're not allowed to have\None-way mirrors in dressing rooms.
Dialogue: 0,0:02:22.20,0:02:24.70,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,You can't have surveillance cameras\Nin dressing rooms.
Dialogue: 0,0:02:25.58,0:02:27.48,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,These are all facts that,
Dialogue: 0,0:02:27.48,0:02:29.46,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,if you analyze the picture,
Dialogue: 0,0:02:29.46,0:02:31.30,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,you will have to come to this conclusion.
Dialogue: 0,0:02:31.30,0:02:32.77,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Therefore, the only thing\Nthat you can be seeing
Dialogue: 0,0:02:32.77,0:02:34.26,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,is what the mirror sees.
Dialogue: 0,0:02:34.96,0:02:37.70,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So, that's a picture that can't be made.
Dialogue: 0,0:02:38.72,0:02:41.26,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,This caused many interesting difficulties.
Dialogue: 0,0:02:43.42,0:02:45.96,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Barneys is a store you can steal from.
Dialogue: 0,0:02:49.00,0:02:50.38,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So of course I had to go to Barneys
Dialogue: 0,0:02:50.38,0:02:52.48,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and take photographs of the dressing rooms
Dialogue: 0,0:02:52.48,0:02:54.02,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and measure them and get every detail
Dialogue: 0,0:02:54.02,0:02:55.54,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and then copy the thing.
Dialogue: 0,0:02:58.44,0:03:00.02,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[CLICKING OF LIGHT SWITCH ECHOES]
Dialogue: 0,0:03:01.86,0:03:04.08,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,What I've told you is something that I believe
Dialogue: 0,0:03:04.10,0:03:05.96,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,if you pay attention to that picture
Dialogue: 0,0:03:05.96,0:03:08.61,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and enjoy it and look at it--\Nget involved in it--
Dialogue: 0,0:03:08.61,0:03:09.92,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,it'll come to you.
Dialogue: 0,0:03:10.52,0:03:12.18,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And when it comes to you, it'll be exciting.
Dialogue: 0,0:03:14.32,0:03:16.62,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,You know, the most beautiful artistry is hidden.
Dialogue: 0,0:03:17.14,0:03:18.20,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But there's no secret.
Dialogue: 0,0:03:19.14,0:03:20.56,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It's not like it's a secret.
Dialogue: 0,0:03:21.08,0:03:22.26,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It's a condition.