[Script Info] Title: [Events] Format: Layer, Start, End, Style, Name, MarginL, MarginR, MarginV, Effect, Text Dialogue: 0,0:00:10.21,0:00:13.97,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Angel: Now I am very happy to have you all here Dialogue: 0,0:00:13.97,0:00:18.58,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,for the next talk on a really important topic. Dialogue: 0,0:00:18.58,0:00:21.15,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And we all called last year for Dialogue: 0,0:00:21.15,0:00:24.82,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,more creative campaigns on all our issues, Dialogue: 0,0:00:24.82,0:00:27.05,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that we talk about here at congress. Dialogue: 0,0:00:27.05,0:00:29.94,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And so the Peng! Collective thought about a Dialogue: 0,0:00:29.94,0:00:32.11,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,really creative campaign that also got Dialogue: 0,0:00:32.11,0:00:34.94,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,a lot of attention in the last year. Dialogue: 0,0:00:34.94,0:00:37.28,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And because they call for all Dialogue: 0,0:00:37.28,0:00:40.33,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the intelligence officers to really exit Dialogue: 0,0:00:40.33,0:00:43.87,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,their careers and to find some other Dialogue: 0,0:00:43.87,0:00:48.71,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,more valuable service to our society, Dialogue: 0,0:00:48.71,0:00:50.58,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I'm very honoured to introduce Dialogue: 0,0:00:50.58,0:00:53.07,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Gloria Spindle to you, Dialogue: 0,0:00:53.07,0:00:57.22,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,who is a former Google nest employee, Dialogue: 0,0:00:57.22,0:01:01.74,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,—You might remember that great campaign—\N Dialogue: 0,0:01:01.74,0:01:05.69,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and will now present the "Intelexit" to you. Dialogue: 0,0:01:05.69,0:01:07.14,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Thank you! Your Applause! Dialogue: 0,0:01:07.14,0:01:09.06,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,{\i1}applause{\i0} Dialogue: 0,0:01:09.06,0:01:23.27,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,{\i1}silence on the audio stream{\i0} Dialogue: 0,0:01:23.27,0:01:25.90,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Gloria: Hello! Dialogue: 0,0:01:25.90,0:01:28.77,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And hello to all the live streaming people\Nout there as well. Dialogue: 0,0:01:28.77,0:01:31.96,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Blubb blubb we can see you! Dialogue: 0,0:01:31.96,0:01:35.03,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I hear they're a lot, maybe more than\Nwhat's in this room. Dialogue: 0,0:01:35.05,0:01:36.60,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,All the lights are dimming. Dialogue: 0,0:01:36.60,0:01:39.91,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Okay, so! I don't know if anyone else Dialogue: 0,0:01:39.91,0:01:42.22,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,is as interested in the parts Dialogue: 0,0:01:42.22,0:01:44.30,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,of the Snowdon documents as I am, Dialogue: 0,0:01:44.30,0:01:48.69,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,which are the kind of little cultural titbits\Nthat you find that give you a sense of Dialogue: 0,0:01:48.69,0:01:52.74,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,what it's like to be within the Secret Service. Dialogue: 0,0:01:52.74,0:01:57.93,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I'm really kind of fascinated\Nby this particular gentleman. Dialogue: 0,0:01:57.93,0:02:01.70,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The SIGINT Philosopher, who was a columnist Dialogue: 0,0:02:01.70,0:02:04.98,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,for the NSA on the internal news letter Dialogue: 0,0:02:04.98,0:02:07.14,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and he is really quite creative Dialogue: 0,0:02:07.14,0:02:09.48,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and he writes a lot of pieces Dialogue: 0,0:02:09.48,0:02:12.45,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,about the ethical quandaries of working\Nin the Secret Services. Dialogue: 0,0:02:12.45,0:02:14.17,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And most of them end with just like: Dialogue: 0,0:02:14.17,0:02:16.35,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,"You should just like keep your head down\Nand you should just keep doing Dialogue: 0,0:02:16.35,0:02:17.83,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,what you're supposed to be doing, Dialogue: 0,0:02:17.83,0:02:22.30,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,'cause that's the best way to go ahead\Nand protect your county." Dialogue: 0,0:02:22.30,0:02:25.69,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So this quote is really the kind of crux Dialogue: 0,0:02:25.69,0:02:31.19,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,of what the “Intelexit” Initiative\Nis founded on. Dialogue: 0,0:02:31.19,0:02:33.58,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,We recognise that people who are working Dialogue: 0,0:02:33.58,0:02:35.98,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,in the Secret Services, and I'm sure Dialogue: 0,0:02:35.98,0:02:38.97,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,some of you in the audience tonight Dialogue: 0,0:02:38.97,0:02:44.35,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,are working in the Secret Services Dialogue: 0,0:02:44.35,0:02:50.03,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,— pretty certain there are some disgruntled, maybe unhappy, Dialogue: 0,0:02:50.03,0:02:54.08,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,maybe ethically confused people\Nworking in spy agencies, Dialogue: 0,0:02:54.08,0:02:56.47,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,maybe you're just a contractor Dialogue: 0,0:02:56.47,0:02:59.77,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and you feel like: Oh I'm not so involved, Dialogue: 0,0:02:59.77,0:03:04.94,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but I still feel like\NI have blood on my hands. Dialogue: 0,0:03:04.94,0:03:08.02,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And those are the people\Nthat “Intelexit” is talking to. Dialogue: 0,0:03:08.02,0:03:09.44,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,{\i1}very mild applause{\i0} Dialogue: 0,0:03:09.44,0:03:12.58,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,That was like have a clap.\NI mean come on, people! Dialogue: 0,0:03:12.58,0:03:14.29,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,{\i1}applause{\i0} Dialogue: 0,0:03:14.29,0:03:16.29,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Thank you! Thank you! Jesus! Dialogue: 0,0:03:16.29,0:03:19.20,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Don't be afraid of clapping! Dialogue: 0,0:03:19.20,0:03:23.09,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So those are the people that “Intelexit”\Nis really talking to. Dialogue: 0,0:03:23.09,0:03:25.23,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And we wanted to reach out to those people, Dialogue: 0,0:03:25.23,0:03:28.59,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,because there hasn't been a campaign yet\Nthat has actually recognised, Dialogue: 0,0:03:28.59,0:03:30.45,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that they are humans working, Dialogue: 0,0:03:30.45,0:03:32.38,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,thousands and thousands of people Dialogue: 0,0:03:32.38,0:03:36.65,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,going every day to their surveillance jobs,\Noperating drones Dialogue: 0,0:03:36.65,0:03:38.80,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and even the people who are just Dialogue: 0,0:03:38.80,0:03:41.79,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,answering emails or you know pushing paper, Dialogue: 0,0:03:41.79,0:03:44.41,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,running the photocopy machine,\Nif they even have those. Dialogue: 0,0:03:44.41,0:03:46.12,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,— Who knows what they have in there — Dialogue: 0,0:03:46.12,0:03:48.32,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Those People,\Nthey are people who obviously Dialogue: 0,0:03:48.32,0:03:52.12,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,have ethical issues about working Dialogue: 0,0:03:52.12,0:03:54.51,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,in these systems Dialogue: 0,0:03:54.51,0:03:57.64,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and feel responsible\Nfor mass surveillance, Dialogue: 0,0:03:57.64,0:04:01.25,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,drone warfare and the slow, maybe fast, Dialogue: 0,0:04:01.25,0:04:05.37,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,degradation of democracy as we know it. Dialogue: 0,0:04:05.37,0:04:11.24,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So, introducing “Intelexit”! Dialogue: 0,0:04:11.24,0:04:16.69,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,{\i1}applause{\i0} Dialogue: 0,0:04:16.69,0:04:18.81,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So what Intelexit does is Dialogue: 0,0:04:18.81,0:04:22.03,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,it's an initiative, a civil initiative Dialogue: 0,0:04:22.03,0:04:24.87,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,grounded in the idea that we\Nneed to find a way Dialogue: 0,0:04:24.87,0:04:27.18,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to support people who want to leave Dialogue: 0,0:04:27.18,0:04:28.75,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,their jobs at the Secret Services Dialogue: 0,0:04:28.75,0:04:32.45,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and we need to normalise\Nthe idea of quitting. Dialogue: 0,0:04:32.45,0:04:35.42,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,{\i1}applause{\i0} Dialogue: 0,0:04:35.42,0:04:39.95,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Because actually it's a very just and Dialogue: 0,0:04:39.95,0:04:41.73,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,sometimes honourable thing to do, Dialogue: 0,0:04:41.73,0:04:43.37,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,just to follow your ethics and Dialogue: 0,0:04:43.37,0:04:44.37,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,give up your job, Dialogue: 0,0:04:44.37,0:04:49.08,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,if you don't feel like you're contributing\Nto society in a good way. Dialogue: 0,0:04:49.08,0:04:50.54,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,{\i1}applause{\i0} Dialogue: 0,0:04:50.54,0:04:55.61,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So that’s why Intelexit pitch. Dialogue: 0,0:04:55.61,0:04:57.05,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Some of you might know: Dialogue: 0,0:04:57.05,0:04:59.30,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I'm from Peng! as it was introduced earlier Dialogue: 0,0:04:59.30,0:05:02.95,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and we are known for our hoaxes Dialogue: 0,0:05:02.95,0:05:06.32,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and our media hacks and our culture jamming. Dialogue: 0,0:05:06.32,0:05:09.58,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So intelexit is been a really, really\Ninteresting campaign for us Dialogue: 0,0:05:09.58,0:05:12.77,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and I’ll explain it as I go. Dialogue: 0,0:05:12.77,0:05:15.24,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Because of course you see it's a bit of Dialogue: 0,0:05:15.24,0:05:16.83,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,performance and it's a bit of humour Dialogue: 0,0:05:16.83,0:05:19.96,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but it's also very serious at the same time. Dialogue: 0,0:05:19.96,0:05:22.80,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So, just to introduce Peng! to you, Dialogue: 0,0:05:22.80,0:05:24.54,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,for those who don't know. Dialogue: 0,0:05:24.54,0:05:28.76,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Here we were... this was at re:publica Dialogue: 0,0:05:28.76,0:05:32.67,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,impersonating Google managers and Dialogue: 0,0:05:32.67,0:05:34.59,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,presenting some really creepy, Dialogue: 0,0:05:34.59,0:05:36.20,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,data collecting products. Dialogue: 0,0:05:36.20,0:05:38.40,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,A personal drone for daily life, Dialogue: 0,0:05:38.40,0:05:41.84,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,an app that monitors your well-being,\Nemotional well being, Dialogue: 0,0:05:41.84,0:05:45.88,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and matches you with other people\Nwho also need a hug Dialogue: 0,0:05:45.88,0:05:47.89,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and creepy thing about that is most Dialogue: 0,0:05:47.89,0:05:50.80,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,of this distopian visions have now actually Dialogue: 0,0:05:50.80,0:05:52.70,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,come to light and are existing Dialogue: 0,0:05:52.70,0:05:54.53,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,in the real world today. Dialogue: 0,0:05:54.53,0:05:57.96,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Actually people do use drones\Nto follow their children to school. Dialogue: 0,0:05:57.96,0:06:00.26,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,That's a real thing. Dialogue: 0,0:06:00.26,0:06:04.56,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So and here we are impersonating the\Nleading party of Germany Dialogue: 0,0:06:04.56,0:06:08.47,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and here we are in live television,\Ncracking an egg over the head of a presenter Dialogue: 0,0:06:08.47,0:06:10.83,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,of a very dodgy television program Dialogue: 0,0:06:10.83,0:06:15.95,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and this was our program to self.... Dialogue: 0,0:06:15.95,0:06:20.58,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,provide self help for trolls,\Nsexist trolls on twitter Dialogue: 0,0:06:20.58,0:06:22.28,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and that was our self help coach. Dialogue: 0,0:06:22.28,0:06:24.86,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,We had a bot army which was analyse... Dialogue: 0,0:06:24.86,0:06:27.24,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,we had a language analysis\Nhappening on twitter Dialogue: 0,0:06:27.24,0:06:29.59,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and then we had an army of 160 bots Dialogue: 0,0:06:29.59,0:06:31.65,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,which were going out and enrolling trolls Dialogue: 0,0:06:31.65,0:06:34.47,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,on twitter into our self help program Dialogue: 0,0:06:34.47,0:06:37.31,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and sending them nice inspirational videos Dialogue: 0,0:06:37.31,0:06:39.65,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,every day to help cure them. Dialogue: 0,0:06:39.65,0:06:45.19,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,{\i1}applause{\i0} Dialogue: 0,0:06:45.19,0:06:46.75,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So as you can see we have a... Dialogue: 0,0:06:46.75,0:06:50.04,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,we utilise a range\Nof tactics and techniques Dialogue: 0,0:06:50.04,0:06:52.48,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,in what we call campaigning. Dialogue: 0,0:06:52.48,0:06:55.74,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Some people call it art,\Nsome people call it theatre, Dialogue: 0,0:06:55.74,0:06:59.19,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,some people call it a joke,\Nsome call it entertainment, Dialogue: 0,0:06:59.19,0:07:02.42,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but we see it as campaigning\Nand what we are constantly trying to do Dialogue: 0,0:07:02.42,0:07:04.35,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,is to shift the narrative.\NWe look at... Dialogue: 0,0:07:04.35,0:07:07.37,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,shift the narrative around\Nvarious social justice issues. Dialogue: 0,0:07:07.37,0:07:09.48,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,We look at issues we think that really need Dialogue: 0,0:07:09.48,0:07:11.86,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,a kind of different spin\Nhappening in the media Dialogue: 0,0:07:11.86,0:07:15.81,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and we take them and find a way to\Nreframe them and then we push them out Dialogue: 0,0:07:15.81,0:07:18.62,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and hope that we get a lot of attention. Dialogue: 0,0:07:18.62,0:07:21.84,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So we started looking at the issue of Dialogue: 0,0:07:21.84,0:07:25.42,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,surveillance and the Secret Services. Dialogue: 0,0:07:25.42,0:07:30.12,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And, well, quickly one runs into the obstacle Dialogue: 0,0:07:30.12,0:07:32.59,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,of how do you talk about this. Dialogue: 0,0:07:32.59,0:07:36.32,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Like we have this clichés of, you know, Dialogue: 0,0:07:36.32,0:07:41.37,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the eye and, you know, Edward Snowden’s face Dialogue: 0,0:07:41.37,0:07:43.67,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and we have these visuals that kind of Dialogue: 0,0:07:43.67,0:07:45.48,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,don't really mean anything anymore Dialogue: 0,0:07:45.48,0:07:48.02,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and everyone really struggles\Nto actually understand Dialogue: 0,0:07:48.02,0:07:50.21,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,what the issue means and how do we talk about Dialogue: 0,0:07:50.21,0:07:56.90,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the Secret Services,\Nwhen they're completely inaccessible to us? Dialogue: 0,0:07:56.90,0:08:02.26,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So this a photo, for example, of the regulations Dialogue: 0,0:08:02.26,0:08:05.60,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,for taking photographs at Fort Meade. Dialogue: 0,0:08:05.60,0:08:09.01,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,You see, you’re not really allowed\Nto take photographs of the buildings. Dialogue: 0,0:08:09.01,0:08:10.95,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So if you start with that as a kind of metaphor Dialogue: 0,0:08:10.95,0:08:14.88,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,for the inaccessibility of the Secret Services Dialogue: 0,0:08:14.88,0:08:17.26,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to our general culture. Dialogue: 0,0:08:17.26,0:08:19.25,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,We don't even have visuals for them. Dialogue: 0,0:08:19.25,0:08:22.02,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,We've got like one photo of the NSA\Nthat floats around the internet Dialogue: 0,0:08:22.02,0:08:25.51,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and just gets repurposed and repurposed. Dialogue: 0,0:08:25.51,0:08:27.12,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,We can't access these people, Dialogue: 0,0:08:27.12,0:08:29.98,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,we can't access their structures,\Nwe can't access their information. Dialogue: 0,0:08:29.98,0:08:34.46,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Yes we have leaks now,\Nbut how do we actually open it up more? Dialogue: 0,0:08:34.46,0:08:37.73,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And that was the question,\Nwe kept asking ourselves. Dialogue: 0,0:08:37.73,0:08:41.67,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,You've got this issue of intangibility Dialogue: 0,0:08:41.67,0:08:43.40,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and then you also got the issue that Dialogue: 0,0:08:43.40,0:08:44.64,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,everything is so secret. Dialogue: 0,0:08:44.64,0:08:49.32,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I mean even if a Christmas card\Nis sent internally in the NSA, Dialogue: 0,0:08:49.32,0:08:52.69,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,it's classified as top secret. Dialogue: 0,0:08:52.69,0:08:55.15,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Then you've got technology which is so complicated Dialogue: 0,0:08:55.15,0:08:57.27,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the general public can't understand it Dialogue: 0,0:08:57.27,0:09:00.65,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and it's like all these acronyms and these Dialogue: 0,0:09:00.65,0:09:02.76,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,weird flow charts and bad design Dialogue: 0,0:09:02.76,0:09:05.33,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and it's just really complicated. Dialogue: 0,0:09:05.33,0:09:08.64,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And then of course there is fear. Dialogue: 0,0:09:08.64,0:09:10.94,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And Fear is really crippling for activists Dialogue: 0,0:09:10.94,0:09:13.85,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,like ourselves, for civil society.\NIt is really difficult. Dialogue: 0,0:09:13.85,0:09:15.66,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,We don't want to broach this issue. Dialogue: 0,0:09:15.66,0:09:17.13,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,We don't want to step into it, Dialogue: 0,0:09:17.13,0:09:19.55,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,because it's scary,\Nbecause once you step into it, Dialogue: 0,0:09:19.55,0:09:23.44,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,it means that you are\Na target, of course. Dialogue: 0,0:09:23.44,0:09:26.27,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And also, funny enough, fear is also the way Dialogue: 0,0:09:26.27,0:09:27.71,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the narrative is often shaped. Dialogue: 0,0:09:27.71,0:09:30.06,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,This is what we use,\Nto try and raise awareness Dialogue: 0,0:09:30.06,0:09:32.27,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,about surveillance.\NWe make people afraid. Dialogue: 0,0:09:32.27,0:09:34.67,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,We, you know, we talk about this invincible, Dialogue: 0,0:09:34.67,0:09:39.48,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,dark danger of surveillance\Ncreeping in on us. Dialogue: 0,0:09:39.48,0:09:42.66,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,No one knows,\Nif they’re being watched or not. Dialogue: 0,0:09:42.66,0:09:47.45,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And this, we think, is a narrative\Nthat really needs to be shifted. Dialogue: 0,0:09:47.45,0:09:51.59,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So we wanted to find a way to bring hope, Dialogue: 0,0:09:51.59,0:09:56.06,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to bring a positive image to this narrative Dialogue: 0,0:09:56.06,0:09:58.52,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and also to bring it down to humans Dialogue: 0,0:09:58.52,0:10:01.34,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,like not to talk about technology, Dialogue: 0,0:10:01.34,0:10:03.64,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,not to talk about these\Ndark and complex systems Dialogue: 0,0:10:03.64,0:10:05.29,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but to talk about the people Dialogue: 0,0:10:05.29,0:10:09.35,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and talk to the people who are upholding\Nthese structures. Dialogue: 0,0:10:09.35,0:10:11.94,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So this is what we came up with: Dialogue: 0,0:10:11.94,0:10:16.77,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,off-voice from video:\NRight now, thousands of people work Dialogue: 0,0:10:16.77,0:10:19.74,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,in the shadows\Nof the intelligence community. Dialogue: 0,0:10:21.32,0:10:23.22,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,They don't ask questions. Dialogue: 0,0:10:23.22,0:10:24.86,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,They follow orders. Dialogue: 0,0:10:24.86,0:10:27.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Keep their heads down, Dialogue: 0,0:10:27.00,0:10:28.29,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,do their work. Dialogue: 0,0:10:28.29,0:10:32.08,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But what happens,\Nwhen you see something you can't forget? Dialogue: 0,0:10:32.08,0:10:35.54,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And you realise that the system you are Dialogue: 0,0:10:35.54,0:10:38.03,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,part of is chipping away our democracy Dialogue: 0,0:10:38.03,0:10:40.23,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,every hour, every day. Dialogue: 0,0:10:41.29,0:10:44.24,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,You feel stuck,\Noverwhelmed. Dialogue: 0,0:10:44.29,0:10:49.11,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Some people have already made\Nthe decision to leave. Dialogue: 0,0:10:49.69,0:10:53.75,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Others are thinking about it every day. Dialogue: 0,0:10:53.75,0:10:58.21,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Intelexit helps people break free\Nfrom the intelligence community Dialogue: 0,0:10:58.21,0:11:01.96,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and build a new life. Dialogue: 0,0:11:03.20,0:11:05.42,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,You expose yourself within the system, Dialogue: 0,0:11:05.42,0:11:08.82,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,you ultimately end up\Nbeing forced out of the system. Dialogue: 0,0:11:09.96,0:11:12.70,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I remember confronting my immediate supervisor Dialogue: 0,0:11:12.70,0:11:14.96,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the number 3 person: What are we doing? Dialogue: 0,0:11:14.96,0:11:17.72,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,We are violating the constitution! Dialogue: 0,0:11:22.66,0:11:27.35,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,– Many Secret Service employees are disillusioned. Dialogue: 0,0:11:27.35,0:11:29.91,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,– Why are we taking equipment Dialogue: 0,0:11:29.91,0:11:34.19,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,—it is traditionally for foreign facing,\Noutward facing— Dialogue: 0,0:11:34.19,0:11:36.76,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and we're now instrumenting our networks Dialogue: 0,0:11:36.76,0:11:38.63,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,within the United States of America? Dialogue: 0,0:11:38.63,0:11:42.16,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,- If you're surveilling the population,\Nyou're all on the same side. Dialogue: 0,0:11:42.16,0:11:47.45,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Right? You want all the data and you want to\Ntalk to people who have the most data. Dialogue: 0,0:11:47.45,0:11:52.91,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So the NSA is a\Nnexus of surveillance for the world. Dialogue: 0,0:11:52.91,0:11:55.56,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,– It's what ever you can get away with. Dialogue: 0,0:11:55.56,0:11:57.54,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,That was part of the "game". Dialogue: 0,0:11:57.54,0:12:01.95,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And whatever would serve\Nas the interest of "national security". Dialogue: 0,0:12:01.95,0:12:06.33,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,– When one is forced to act against one's\Nmoral values, they can experience Dialogue: 0,0:12:06.33,0:12:09.75,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,extreme levels of\Nwhat we call cognitive dissonance. Dialogue: 0,0:12:19.90,0:12:25.48,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,– I was radioactive because\NI'm questioning what are we doing. Dialogue: 0,0:12:25.48,0:12:28.44,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Where do you then go?\NWhere does your life then … Dialogue: 0,0:12:28.44,0:12:33.08,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Where do you recreate your life? Dialogue: 0,0:12:33.08,0:12:36.24,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,– What Intelexit does is help individuals Dialogue: 0,0:12:36.24,0:12:38.91,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,transition from the world on the inside Dialogue: 0,0:12:38.91,0:12:40.35,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to the world on the outside. Dialogue: 0,0:12:43.68,0:12:47.26,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,– The more you can move\Nfrom the inside to the outside, Dialogue: 0,0:12:47.26,0:12:50.11,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the better you'll integrate\Ninto the real world. Dialogue: 0,0:12:50.11,0:12:54.55,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,– What is really great about Intelexit is\Nthat it helps people to confront their fears. Dialogue: 0,0:12:54.55,0:12:55.78,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,– So take it from me: Dialogue: 0,0:12:55.78,0:12:58.24,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,If you're looking to get out,\Ntry Intelexit! Dialogue: 0,0:12:59.43,0:13:03.26,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,– Be smart. Exit intelligence now. Dialogue: 0,0:13:03.27,0:13:11.08,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,{\i1}roaring applause{\i0} Dialogue: 0,0:13:11.08,0:13:14.14,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I was really impressed\Nwith Bruce Schneier there. Dialogue: 0,0:13:14.14,0:13:17.59,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Bruce Schneier is just amazing without end. Dialogue: 0,0:13:17.59,0:13:19.87,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I mean, who knew he had those talents? Dialogue: 0,0:13:19.87,0:13:21.63,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Someone take him to acting school. Dialogue: 0,0:13:21.63,0:13:24.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Like, it's amazing! Dialogue: 0,0:13:24.00,0:13:26.24,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Okay, so then we made the video, Dialogue: 0,0:13:26.24,0:13:30.45,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but of course we knew, we know\Nthat the people that we are talking to Dialogue: 0,0:13:30.45,0:13:33.88,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the spies, are some of the\Nmost introverted people in the world. Dialogue: 0,0:13:33.88,0:13:35.92,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And probably some of them the people Dialogue: 0,0:13:35.92,0:13:38.14,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,most stuck in a filter bubble in the world. Dialogue: 0,0:13:38.14,0:13:41.19,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So we knew we had to kind of\Ntake our preach further Dialogue: 0,0:13:41.19,0:13:44.29,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and we had to go to where they are. Dialogue: 0,0:13:44.29,0:13:48.59,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So you know we thought big and we pretended Dialogue: 0,0:13:48.59,0:13:51.78,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,we just forgot about that we didn't really\Nhave a budget. Dialogue: 0,0:13:51.78,0:13:55.06,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And so we just hired a van.\NBecause that's what you do. Dialogue: 0,0:13:55.06,0:13:58.48,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So we just hired this van and drove around Dialogue: 0,0:13:58.48,0:14:01.66,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Fort Meade and the NSA buildings, Dialogue: 0,0:14:01.66,0:14:06.32,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,tried as much as we could to get\Nas close as possible to them as we could. Dialogue: 0,0:14:06.32,0:14:12.64,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,{\i1}applause{\i0} Dialogue: 0,0:14:12.64,0:14:15.19,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So this is outside Lockheed Martin Dialogue: 0,0:14:15.19,0:14:17.73,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,on a national business parkway. Dialogue: 0,0:14:17.73,0:14:20.95,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The main area of all the NSA contractors Dialogue: 0,0:14:20.95,0:14:25.26,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and they are really best friend with the NSA\Nand now they started making drones as well. Dialogue: 0,0:14:25.26,0:14:29.82,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,They’ve been supplying technology\Nto the military and the CIA and NSA forever. Dialogue: 0,0:14:29.82,0:14:33.78,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So that’s us parked outside there,\Ngiving them a strong moral punch Dialogue: 0,0:14:33.78,0:14:36.89,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,with the slogan. Dialogue: 0,0:14:36.89,0:14:40.60,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And then we went to one of the most popular Dialogue: 0,0:14:40.60,0:14:44.44,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,cafes where NSA officers and contractors\Nlike to go for lunch. Dialogue: 0,0:14:44.44,0:14:46.74,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,This Café JOE.\NAnd we parked out there Dialogue: 0,0:14:46.74,0:14:49.58,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,during lunch time as well. Dialogue: 0,0:14:49.58,0:14:52.92,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,{\i1}applause{\i0} Dialogue: 0,0:14:52.92,0:14:55.57,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And then of course, because you can't talk Dialogue: 0,0:14:55.57,0:14:58.62,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,about the Secret Services in one country\Nwithout talking about the other ones, Dialogue: 0,0:14:58.62,0:14:59.88,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,'cause they are all in bed with each other, Dialogue: 0,0:14:59.88,0:15:01.57,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,we of course had to go to the UK as well. Dialogue: 0,0:15:01.57,0:15:09.10,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So here we are outside the "Donut" and\Nthis is us trying … Dialogue: 0,0:15:09.10,0:15:12.33,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,okay, to be honest \N{\i1}laughing{\i0} Dialogue: 0,0:15:12.33,0:15:15.36,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that's trying to hand out flyer, brochures\Nto the people. Dialogue: 0,0:15:15.36,0:15:16.51,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Like that was our plan. Dialogue: 0,0:15:16.51,0:15:19.29,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,We were gonna hand them out\Nto the employees on their way to work. Dialogue: 0,0:15:19.29,0:15:21.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And they were just like {\i1}imitates engine roar{\i0}\Nthey had, like, been briefed.. Dialogue: 0,0:15:21.99,0:15:24.33,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,or I don't know.\NThey were just ignoring us. Dialogue: 0,0:15:24.33,0:15:27.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And also maybe we didn't brief that guy Dialogue: 0,0:15:27.00,0:15:33.01,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,very well on what to dress\Nas an Intelexit ambassador. Dialogue: 0,0:15:33.01,0:15:38.50,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And then we hit all the …\N{\i1}laughter in the audience{\i0} Dialogue: 0,0:15:38.50,0:15:44.19,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,applause Dialogue: 0,0:15:44.19,0:15:46.80,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,This is outside the Dagger Complex in Germany. Dialogue: 0,0:15:46.80,0:15:49.58,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,One of the lesser known spots for the NSA Dialogue: 0,0:15:49.58,0:15:51.49,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,where they kind of have a central hub Dialogue: 0,0:15:51.49,0:15:54.43,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,for the signal's intelligence\Ngathering in Europe, Dialogue: 0,0:15:54.43,0:15:56.49,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,it's been written about in the Spiegel. Dialogue: 0,0:15:56.49,0:16:00.73,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Very secret, very difficult\Nto get there as well. Dialogue: 0,0:16:00.73,0:16:02.53,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And there we are, again,\Nfrom the other side. Dialogue: 0,0:16:02.53,0:16:07.48,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And that is the antenna\Nfrom the Dagger Complex. Dialogue: 0,0:16:07.48,0:16:09.68,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And then we also went to Wiesbaden, Dialogue: 0,0:16:09.68,0:16:13.84,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,which is the traditional\Nhome of the US military in Germany Dialogue: 0,0:16:13.84,0:16:16.30,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And the Clay Kaserne Building! Dialogue: 0,0:16:16.30,0:16:19.74,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,This is where supposedly, forthcoming Dialogue: 0,0:16:19.74,0:16:22.24,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,is going to be\None of the NSA’s biggest buildings Dialogue: 0,0:16:22.24,0:16:25.31,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and operations in Europe,\Nalso all very secret. Dialogue: 0,0:16:25.31,0:16:27.34,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,No one knows what's going on. Dialogue: 0,0:16:27.34,0:16:31.83,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And then we went to the\NUS Embassy in Berlin. Dialogue: 0,0:16:31.83,0:16:35.04,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And this for non German speakers just says: Dialogue: 0,0:16:35.04,0:16:36.38,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,"Enough with paranoia!" Dialogue: 0,0:16:36.38,0:16:39.13,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,This is why we had the like\Ndadaistic pineapple on there. Dialogue: 0,0:16:39.13,0:16:43.26,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,"We’re helping you to\Nget out of the Secret Services!" Dialogue: 0,0:16:43.26,0:16:45.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And then we went to the\NGerman Secret Services as well. Dialogue: 0,0:16:45.99,0:16:49.16,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,This is there new office block,\Nthe Bundesnachrichtendienst Dialogue: 0,0:16:49.16,0:16:51.51,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,{\i1}applause{\i0} Dialogue: 0,0:16:51.51,0:16:56.13,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and we also went\Nto the old offices, just in case. Dialogue: 0,0:16:56.13,0:16:59.13,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,{\i1}laughter and applause{\i0} Dialogue: 0,0:16:59.13,0:17:03.06,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And then we went to …\N—we did a lot in a week— Dialogue: 0,0:17:03.06,0:17:05.43,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,we went to the Verfassungsschutz which is Dialogue: 0,0:17:05.43,0:17:07.79,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the domestic intelligence in Germany. Dialogue: 0,0:17:07.79,0:17:12.46,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And this is located in Köln,\Nto remind them about Dialogue: 0,0:17:12.46,0:17:17.50,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,—so the Verfassungsschutz actually\Nstands for roughly translated in English is: Dialogue: 0,0:17:17.50,0:17:19.60,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Protectors of the constitution— Dialogue: 0,0:17:19.60,0:17:21.40,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and in order to remind them about\Nthe constitution Dialogue: 0,0:17:21.40,0:17:24.22,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,we stuck the constitution on their wall there. Dialogue: 0,0:17:24.22,0:17:29.79,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,{\i1}applause{\i0} Dialogue: 0,0:17:29.79,0:17:32.46,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And then there they are ripping it up. Dialogue: 0,0:17:32.46,0:17:35.39,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,This was like a dream we had\Nfor a very long time Dialogue: 0,0:17:35.39,0:17:38.53,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and finally we have realized it. {\i1}laughing{\i0} Dialogue: 0,0:17:38.53,0:17:43.35,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And then we thought we take a bigger step... Dialogue: 0,0:17:43.35,0:18:02.64,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,{\i1}music{\i0} Dialogue: 0,0:18:02.64,0:18:04.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,{\i1}laughter in the audience{\i0} Dialogue: 0,0:18:04.99,0:18:19.37,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,{\i1}music{\i0} Dialogue: 0,0:18:19.37,0:18:32.27,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,{\i1}applause in the audience{\i0} Dialogue: 0,0:18:32.84,0:18:35.71,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,According to sources, Intelexit website Dialogue: 0,0:18:35.71,0:18:41.51,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,was blocked on the internal network\Nafter that dropped. Dialogue: 0,0:18:43.40,0:18:48.12,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So that was our week and that was Intelexit. Dialogue: 0,0:18:48.12,0:18:50.97,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And I just want to\Nshare a few learnings with you, Dialogue: 0,0:18:50.97,0:18:53.30,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,because it was a very\Ninteresting campaign for us Dialogue: 0,0:18:53.30,0:18:55.95,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and one of a kind, really. Dialogue: 0,0:18:55.95,0:18:58.65,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So I think the first thing\Non a very kind of Dialogue: 0,0:18:58.65,0:19:01.40,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,just basic level is that it is possible Dialogue: 0,0:19:01.40,0:19:05.23,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to talk about this issue\Nwithout creating fear, Dialogue: 0,0:19:05.23,0:19:07.80,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,without making everyone, you know, Dialogue: 0,0:19:07.80,0:19:10.88,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,really worried about their information Dialogue: 0,0:19:10.88,0:19:13.78,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and the data and their general feeling\Nof well-being. Dialogue: 0,0:19:13.79,0:19:15.91,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,There is a way of kind of shift the narrative Dialogue: 0,0:19:15.91,0:19:19.46,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and look more at the outside and stop Dialogue: 0,0:19:19.46,0:19:21.95,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,holding the defensive. Dialogue: 0,0:19:21.95,0:19:27.02,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Okay, then second thing is that Dialogue: 0,0:19:27.02,0:19:29.94,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,they are just as good in faking as we are. Dialogue: 0,0:19:29.94,0:19:33.51,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,This was the response from the GCHQ to a Dialogue: 0,0:19:33.51,0:19:39.55,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,journalist question for an article about\NIntelexit, which is amazing, Dialogue: 0,0:19:39.55,0:19:42.07,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,because they basically just said\Nthat they don’t do Dialogue: 0,0:19:42.07,0:19:45.20,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,anything unlawful and they actively encourage Dialogue: 0,0:19:45.20,0:19:47.64,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,staff to discuss any concerns that they have Dialogue: 0,0:19:47.64,0:19:51.38,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,inside, which we all know is not true. Dialogue: 0,0:19:51.38,0:19:53.59,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And they also they really pride themselves Dialogue: 0,0:19:53.59,0:19:57.21,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,on the structures they have in place\Nto support this. Dialogue: 0,0:19:57.49,0:20:01.20,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So I think this was\Nthe biggest surprise for us. Dialogue: 0,0:20:01.20,0:20:02.81,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Like we are always dealing in this kind of Dialogue: 0,0:20:02.81,0:20:05.33,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,projecting of either utopias or distopias Dialogue: 0,0:20:05.33,0:20:06.75,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,out into the world Dialogue: 0,0:20:06.75,0:20:09.48,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and sometimes when you have a vision Dialogue: 0,0:20:09.48,0:20:11.10,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and you project something out, Dialogue: 0,0:20:11.10,0:20:13.06,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,actually it kind of turns into reality. Dialogue: 0,0:20:13.06,0:20:14.70,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And that's what happened. Dialogue: 0,0:20:14.70,0:20:16.33,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,You know, we played this line of Dialogue: 0,0:20:16.33,0:20:18.62,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,yes it's sort of a fake, but at the same time Dialogue: 0,0:20:18.62,0:20:20.83,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,we really mean what we’re putting out here. Dialogue: 0,0:20:20.83,0:20:24.27,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Yes, we actually think there should be\Nan Intelexit Foundation created. Dialogue: 0,0:20:24.27,0:20:26.09,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And there should be loads of money Dialogue: 0,0:20:26.09,0:20:28.16,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,flowing in for people who want to get out. Dialogue: 0,0:20:28.16,0:20:30.59,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And there should be a civil way to exit. Dialogue: 0,0:20:30.59,0:20:32.18,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,{\i1}applause{\i0} Dialogue: 0,0:20:32.18,0:20:34.54,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But, you know, what can we do? Dialogue: 0,0:20:34.54,0:20:37.07,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,We're just like a small art collective Dialogue: 0,0:20:37.07,0:20:38.94,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,in Berlin. You know. Dialogue: 0,0:20:38.94,0:20:41.56,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,We can make a big wave, but we're Dialogue: 0,0:20:41.56,0:20:44.09,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,quite limited on our resources. Dialogue: 0,0:20:44.09,0:20:45.77,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But actually we got responses, Dialogue: 0,0:20:45.77,0:20:49.13,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,we got people coming to us Dialogue: 0,0:20:49.13,0:20:50.61,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and that was a real surprise Dialogue: 0,0:20:50.61,0:20:56.12,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and we realised we have\Na lot of responsibility, too. Dialogue: 0,0:20:56.12,0:20:58.26,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And so, this is the other learning that Dialogue: 0,0:20:58.26,0:21:00.76,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,there is no clear line\Nbetween insanity and reality. Dialogue: 0,0:21:00.76,0:21:02.97,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So you kind of constantly, when you get Dialogue: 0,0:21:02.97,0:21:04.92,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,people contacting you this like, Dialogue: 0,0:21:04.92,0:21:06.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,of course you get people who think that Dialogue: 0,0:21:06.99,0:21:08.53,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,they are pursued by the CIA Dialogue: 0,0:21:08.53,0:21:11.89,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,or think that they used to work at the secret\Nservice Dialogue: 0,0:21:11.89,0:21:14.09,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and then there is people who talk to aliens Dialogue: 0,0:21:14.09,0:21:16.72,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and these kinds of things Dialogue: 0,0:21:16.72,0:21:20.03,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and then you get people with really legitimate\Nstories Dialogue: 0,0:21:20.03,0:21:22.64,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and there is a kind of constant balance Dialogue: 0,0:21:22.64,0:21:24.10,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and we really had to learn how to Dialogue: 0,0:21:24.10,0:21:25.66,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,assess these. Dialogue: 0,0:21:25.66,0:21:28.36,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And luckily we had amazing support from Dialogue: 0,0:21:28.36,0:21:30.84,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,investigative journalists, particularly from Dialogue: 0,0:21:30.84,0:21:33.32,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,whistle-blower platforms who have experience Dialogue: 0,0:21:33.32,0:21:36.17,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,with this and help us. Dialogue: 0,0:21:36.17,0:21:38.87,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But that's just part of the game. Dialogue: 0,0:21:38.87,0:21:41.53,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Okay, I think this is our other learning, Dialogue: 0,0:21:41.53,0:21:42.48,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that we realised, that Dialogue: 0,0:21:42.48,0:21:43.85,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,at the end of this week, Dialogue: 0,0:21:43.85,0:21:45.55,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,there really is a need for this. Dialogue: 0,0:21:45.55,0:21:54.04,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,There is a need to respond to kind of Dialogue: 0,0:21:54.04,0:21:54.79,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,discourse that's out there Dialogue: 0,0:21:54.79,0:21:55.51,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and create a new one Dialogue: 0,0:21:55.51,0:21:57.27,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and then there is also really a need to Dialogue: 0,0:21:57.27,0:22:01.01,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,provide this kind of support and Dialogue: 0,0:22:01.01,0:22:03.15,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,actually reach out to people who are Dialogue: 0,0:22:03.15,0:22:06.97,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,trapped in these structures and want to get\Nout. Dialogue: 0,0:22:06.97,0:22:08.76,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So we've been working really hard and trying Dialogue: 0,0:22:08.76,0:22:12.64,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to build up networks of support with people Dialogue: 0,0:22:12.64,0:22:14.06,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,who have legal skills, Dialogue: 0,0:22:14.06,0:22:17.94,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,who have psychological training Dialogue: 0,0:22:17.94,0:22:19.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and who can also help, if people want to Dialogue: 0,0:22:19.99,0:22:22.29,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,get out and leak or blow the whistle, Dialogue: 0,0:22:22.29,0:22:23.23,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,who can help with that. Dialogue: 0,0:22:23.23,0:22:26.48,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So we kind of at the moment when people come Dialogue: 0,0:22:26.48,0:22:29.45,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,we are trying to direct them to the right\Nresources. Dialogue: 0,0:22:29.45,0:22:30.27,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Because of cause we're not Dialogue: 0,0:22:30.27,0:22:32.41,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,a whistle blowing platform. Dialogue: 0,0:22:32.41,0:22:36.48,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And we are not a legal organisation, Dialogue: 0,0:22:36.48,0:22:37.92,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,so we can't provide a lot of things, Dialogue: 0,0:22:37.92,0:22:40.27,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but we have good networks and we can try Dialogue: 0,0:22:40.27,0:22:44.62,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and connect people with them. Dialogue: 0,0:22:44.62,0:22:50.06,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So what's coming next? Dialogue: 0,0:22:50.06,0:22:51.41,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,We are trying to build up our infrastructure Dialogue: 0,0:22:51.41,0:22:54.63,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,so that people can actually have a very secure\Nway Dialogue: 0,0:22:54.63,0:22:55.93,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to contact us. Dialogue: 0,0:22:55.93,0:22:58.42,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,We are building up this network of support Dialogue: 0,0:22:58.42,0:23:02.10,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and we want to create a list of future Dialogue: 0,0:23:02.10,0:23:03.73,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,employers for people who actually do leave Dialogue: 0,0:23:03.73,0:23:05.76,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the secret services so that they can find Dialogue: 0,0:23:05.76,0:23:08.17,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,places to get jobs afterwards. Dialogue: 0,0:23:08.17,0:23:09.49,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And we want to continue doing more Dialogue: 0,0:23:09.49,0:23:11.20,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,outreach and more campaigning on this issue Dialogue: 0,0:23:11.20,0:23:16.60,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and I think that that is our main goal. Dialogue: 0,0:23:16.60,0:23:20.49,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,applause Dialogue: 0,0:23:20.49,0:23:22.34,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,That's a safe within a safe, Dialogue: 0,0:23:22.34,0:23:26.24,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,which is now part of our kind of secure Dialogue: 0,0:23:26.24,0:23:28.16,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,infrastructure in our offices, Dialogue: 0,0:23:28.16,0:23:30.50,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,thanks to the support of very experienced Dialogue: 0,0:23:30.50,0:23:32.30,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and knowledgeable expert people Dialogue: 0,0:23:32.30,0:23:35.15,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,who can help us set up the kind of Dialogue: 0,0:23:35.15,0:23:38.64,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the best way for people to kind of Dialogue: 0,0:23:38.64,0:23:42.46,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to enter the risk assessment to enter the Dialogue: 0,0:23:42.46,0:23:46.70,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,best means of communicating with us. Dialogue: 0,0:23:46.70,0:23:49.07,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And then on our outreach plans Dialogue: 0,0:23:49.07,0:23:53.66,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,we really want to create a way to talk to Dialogue: 0,0:23:53.66,0:23:56.83,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,people who're working in the secret services Dialogue: 0,0:23:56.83,0:23:59.11,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,for an every day person in this audience Dialogue: 0,0:23:59.11,0:24:02.56,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,or on the stage just to call up the NSA Dialogue: 0,0:24:02.56,0:24:05.51,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,or the BND or the GCHQ and get through Dialogue: 0,0:24:05.51,0:24:07.29,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to someone who is sitting in their office Dialogue: 0,0:24:07.29,0:24:09.34,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,on their phone and have a conversation Dialogue: 0,0:24:09.34,0:24:10.92,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,with them like callcenter-style. Dialogue: 0,0:24:10.92,0:24:13.91,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,You know like: How are you doing today? Dialogue: 0,0:24:13.91,0:24:16.33,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Can we talk about your job? Dialogue: 0,0:24:16.33,0:24:20.02,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,How do you feel about working at the Dialogue: 0,0:24:20.02,0:24:25.52,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,secret services? Dialogue: 0,0:24:25.52,0:24:28.13,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,We want to create an anonymous reaching Dialogue: 0,0:24:28.13,0:24:30.64,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,system for someone to call completely Dialogue: 0,0:24:30.64,0:24:34.47,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,anonymously to a set of numbers Dialogue: 0,0:24:34.47,0:24:39.08,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,which we can't reveal the source of Dialogue: 0,0:24:39.08,0:24:44.20,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and to reach out to these people. Dialogue: 0,0:24:44.20,0:24:47.11,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So of course we need support and help. Dialogue: 0,0:24:47.11,0:24:53.65,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And these are all the things you can help\Nus with. Dialogue: 0,0:24:53.65,0:24:56.66,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,If you got skills, we need all kinds of skills, Dialogue: 0,0:24:56.66,0:25:00.54,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,we need skills to build up this call center Dialogue: 0,0:25:00.54,0:25:03.07,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,operation of ours, so that people can actually Dialogue: 0,0:25:03.07,0:25:07.71,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,anonymously call and we can have something Dialogue: 0,0:25:07.71,0:25:10.83,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that is very exciting and we can premier at Dialogue: 0,0:25:10.83,0:25:11.49,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,events. Dialogue: 0,0:25:11.49,0:25:13.18,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So that you can actually have Dialogue: 0,0:25:13.18,0:25:17.15,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,call center operations on stage calling up Dialogue: 0,0:25:17.15,0:25:19.82,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,doing it live. Dialogue: 0,0:25:19.82,0:25:22.29,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And then we also need people who will Dialogue: 0,0:25:22.29,0:25:25.66,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,translate our materials. Dialogue: 0,0:25:25.66,0:25:26.72,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,We would like to get them into other Dialogue: 0,0:25:26.72,0:25:30.06,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,languages, we only have English and German\Natm. Dialogue: 0,0:25:30.06,0:25:32.38,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And we would like to kind of reach out more Dialogue: 0,0:25:32.38,0:25:35.32,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,internationally. Dialogue: 0,0:25:35.32,0:25:37.84,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And if you've got connections, Dialogue: 0,0:25:37.84,0:25:39.46,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,well that's also always good, Dialogue: 0,0:25:39.46,0:25:42.92,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,if you've got people who are lawyers, Dialogue: 0,0:25:42.92,0:25:46.13,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,who have experience working with people Dialogue: 0,0:25:46.13,0:25:49.46,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,who are either in trauma or Dialogue: 0,0:25:49.46,0:25:51.42,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,people who have been in the secret service Dialogue: 0,0:25:51.42,0:25:53.92,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,for example. Dialogue: 0,0:25:53.92,0:25:55.80,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Legal skills, psychological skills, Dialogue: 0,0:25:55.80,0:25:57.68,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,journalists - we need all those kinds of Dialogue: 0,0:25:57.68,0:25:59.24,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,connections in different jurisdictions. Dialogue: 0,0:25:59.24,0:26:03.04,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,We are pretty well set up in Berlin and Dialogue: 0,0:26:03.04,0:26:05.92,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,in Germany, but we really need help Dialogue: 0,0:26:05.92,0:26:09.09,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,in the UK and the US as well for now. Dialogue: 0,0:26:09.09,0:26:10.89,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And then if you've got ideas for outreach Dialogue: 0,0:26:10.89,0:26:12.88,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,for new actions we are also really open Dialogue: 0,0:26:12.88,0:26:14.33,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to hearing those. Dialogue: 0,0:26:14.33,0:26:16.28,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,We've got the call center idea at the moment. Dialogue: 0,0:26:16.28,0:26:17.07,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Calling up the spies. Dialogue: 0,0:26:17.07,0:26:20.98,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,We want new ideas and if you know people Dialogue: 0,0:26:20.98,0:26:22.51,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,who are working there just have that Dialogue: 0,0:26:22.51,0:26:24.10,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,conversation with them. Dialogue: 0,0:26:24.10,0:26:26.71,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Just start a conversation about you know, Dialogue: 0,0:26:26.71,0:26:28.77,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,ethics of the workplace. Dialogue: 0,0:26:28.77,0:26:34.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,applause Dialogue: 0,0:26:34.99,0:26:38.29,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And now... the big question... Dialogue: 0,0:26:38.29,0:26:45.54,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And I even do that to say how important it\Nis. Dialogue: 0,0:26:45.54,0:26:47.76,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,If you like Peng!'s work we are not ashamed Dialogue: 0,0:26:47.76,0:26:49.41,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,any more. We were ashamed for a long time Dialogue: 0,0:26:49.41,0:26:49.97,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to ask for money, Dialogue: 0,0:26:49.97,0:26:51.51,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but we're not ashamed any more. Dialogue: 0,0:26:51.51,0:26:54.35,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,We live of idealism alone, people, Dialogue: 0,0:26:54.35,0:26:57.32,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and we need help to keep our actions going! Dialogue: 0,0:26:57.32,0:26:59.20,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,This year I think we did 6 actions or something Dialogue: 0,0:26:59.20,0:27:03.95,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,really large campaigns and we need help to Dialogue: 0,0:27:03.95,0:27:06.62,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,kind of support our infrastructure, Dialogue: 0,0:27:06.62,0:27:09.29,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to support our staff, Dialogue: 0,0:27:09.29,0:27:12.48,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to support our projects more than anything, Dialogue: 0,0:27:12.48,0:27:16.58,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,so that we can keep on doing what we are doing. Dialogue: 0,0:27:16.58,0:27:19.05,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So we've developed a way for you to become Dialogue: 0,0:27:19.05,0:27:22.23,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,a monkey donator which I highly recommend Dialogue: 0,0:27:22.23,0:27:26.45,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,great feelings of positivity and love will Dialogue: 0,0:27:26.45,0:27:28.83,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,travel with you for many years after Dialogue: 0,0:27:28.83,0:27:35.30,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,you have done this. Dialogue: 0,0:27:35.30,0:27:37.40,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Mother Theresa said: Dialogue: 0,0:27:37.40,0:27:39.10,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,If you can't feed a hundred penguins, Dialogue: 0,0:27:39.10,0:27:40.67,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,then just feed one." Dialogue: 0,0:27:40.67,0:27:43.63,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So, feed one of us! Dialogue: 0,0:27:43.63,0:27:45.47,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Even if it's just like the pinky finger of Dialogue: 0,0:27:45.47,0:27:49.43,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,one of us and sign up for a year to Dialogue: 0,0:27:49.43,0:27:51.33,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,keep seeing great action coming out Dialogue: 0,0:27:51.33,0:27:54.07,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,from Peng! Dialogue: 0,0:27:54.07,0:27:55.20,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And that's me. Dialogue: 0,0:27:55.20,0:27:57.17,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And we've got one more thing, Dialogue: 0,0:27:57.17,0:28:01.92,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,surprise!\NWhere are you? Hello! Dialogue: 0,0:28:01.92,0:28:03.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So we have one other way to donate, Dialogue: 0,0:28:03.99,0:28:05.29,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,which is that you can buy one of the Dialogue: 0,0:28:05.29,0:28:07.15,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,awesome Intelexit T-shirts, Dialogue: 0,0:28:07.15,0:28:09.38,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,which Paul is gonna come here and model Dialogue: 0,0:28:09.38,0:28:13.03,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,for us quickly. Dialogue: 0,0:28:13.03,0:28:15.95,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,{\i1}laughing and applause{\i0} Dialogue: 0,0:28:15.95,0:28:19.46,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And there's a run for your life! Dialogue: 0,0:28:19.46,0:28:20.61,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,That's the kind of lame one... Dialogue: 0,0:28:20.61,0:28:24.41,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but these ones are cool! Dialogue: 0,0:28:24.41,0:28:26.84,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Thank you! Dialogue: 0,0:28:26.84,0:28:30.61,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Are we meeting afterwards? Dialogue: 0,0:28:30.61,0:28:31.100,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I think we're going to have... Dialogue: 0,0:28:31.100,0:28:33.02,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,We don't have time for questions Dialogue: 0,0:28:33.02,0:28:33.67,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and answers now. Dialogue: 0,0:28:33.67,0:28:35.08,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But we really want to get feedback Dialogue: 0,0:28:35.08,0:28:35.50,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,from people. Dialogue: 0,0:28:35.50,0:28:38.03,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I think there is an IRC Chat or Radio happening, Dialogue: 0,0:28:38.03,0:28:39.51,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but if people want to come we're going Dialogue: 0,0:28:39.51,0:28:41.09,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to meet. Dialogue: 0,0:28:41.09,0:28:43.58,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Where are we meeting? Dialogue: 0,0:28:43.58,0:28:45.29,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,In front! Dialogue: 0,0:28:45.29,0:28:47.14,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,{\i1}laughing{\i0} Dialogue: 0,0:28:47.14,0:28:50.98,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Of this huge hall. Dialogue: 0,0:28:50.98,0:28:51.94,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Can someone give me a location, Dialogue: 0,0:28:51.94,0:28:54.47,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I only got here today... Dialogue: 0,0:28:54.47,0:28:55.80,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Can you give us a location? Dialogue: 0,0:28:55.80,0:28:56.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Herald: Okay, So it's sensible to meet Dialogue: 0,0:28:56.99,0:28:58.27,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,at the tea tent I suppose. Dialogue: 0,0:28:58.27,0:28:58.94,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Gloria: Tea tent! Dialogue: 0,0:28:58.94,0:28:59.62,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,In 15 minutes! Dialogue: 0,0:28:59.62,0:29:02.14,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Herald: In front of hall 2, there is a big\Ntea tent, Dialogue: 0,0:29:02.14,0:29:05.25,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,where you get tea, where you also Dialogue: 0,0:29:05.25,0:29:06.82,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,meet many other people who are working Dialogue: 0,0:29:06.82,0:29:08.65,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,in this direction therefore, right? Dialogue: 0,0:29:08.65,0:29:09.29,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Gloria: Yes! Dialogue: 0,0:29:09.29,0:29:11.68,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Herald: And I have one question still, Dialogue: 0,0:29:11.68,0:29:14.79,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,because you told we can support on the Internet Dialogue: 0,0:29:14.79,0:29:17.85,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,is there also a way to donate anonymously? Dialogue: 0,0:29:17.85,0:29:20.96,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Gloria: Well, you can donate with bitcoin Dialogue: 0,0:29:20.96,0:29:22.76,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,or you can just give us cash. Dialogue: 0,0:29:22.76,0:29:25.48,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Herald: Everybody, big piles of cash, Dialogue: 0,0:29:25.48,0:29:27.75,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,bring them here! Dialogue: 0,0:29:27.75,0:29:32.30,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Gloria: Not saying no to cash... Dialogue: 0,0:29:32.30,0:29:33.64,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Herald: Thank you, Gloria! Dialogue: 0,0:29:33.64,0:29:34.97,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Gloria: Ah, they got a bag! Dialogue: 0,0:29:34.97,0:29:37.78,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Herald: And there is a bag for cash! Dialogue: 0,0:29:37.78,0:29:39.24,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,{\i1}laughing{\i0} Dialogue: 0,0:29:39.24,0:29:41.91,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Gloria: You can put it in very anonymously\Nhere. Dialogue: 0,0:29:41.91,0:29:46.50,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,{\i1}laughing{\i0} Dialogue: 0,0:29:46.50,0:29:49.60,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Herald: Bring your blocking for your face Dialogue: 0,0:29:49.60,0:29:52.34,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,if you really want to be anonymous. Dialogue: 0,0:29:52.34,0:29:53.96,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Thank you, Gloria! Dialogue: 0,0:29:53.96,0:29:55.26,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Everybody who wants to come, Dialogue: 0,0:29:55.26,0:29:56.35,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,please go to the tea tent! Dialogue: 0,0:29:56.35,0:30:02.39,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,{\i1}applause{\i0} Dialogue: 0,0:30:02.39,0:30:06.17,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,{\i1}music{\i0} Dialogue: 0,0:30:06.17,0:30:14.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,subtitles created by c3subtitles.de\NJoin, and help us!