[Script Info] Title: [Events] Format: Layer, Start, End, Style, Name, MarginL, MarginR, MarginV, Effect, Text Dialogue: 0,0:00:00.00,0:00:03.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Sunt un chirurg care studiaza creativitatea Dialogue: 0,0:00:03.00,0:00:06.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,dar n-am avut niciodata un pacient care sa-mi spuna Dialogue: 0,0:00:06.00,0:00:09.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,"Doresc sa fii creativ in timpul operatiei." Dialogue: 0,0:00:09.00,0:00:12.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Cred ca-i o doza de ironie in asta. Dialogue: 0,0:00:12.00,0:00:15.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Dupa multe operatii, as putea spune Dialogue: 0,0:00:15.00,0:00:17.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,ca se aseamana cu cantatul la un instrument. Dialogue: 0,0:00:17.00,0:00:20.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Iar pentru mine, aceasta fascinatie profunda si de durata pentru sunet Dialogue: 0,0:00:20.00,0:00:22.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,este cea ce m-a condus la a deveni chirurg Dialogue: 0,0:00:22.00,0:00:24.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,dar si la studiul stiintei sunetului, in special muzica. Dialogue: 0,0:00:24.00,0:00:26.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Asa ca voi incerca sa va vorbesc in urmatoarele minute Dialogue: 0,0:00:26.00,0:00:28.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,despre cariera mea Dialogue: 0,0:00:28.00,0:00:30.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,si cum incerc de fapt sa studiez muzica Dialogue: 0,0:00:30.00,0:00:32.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,si sa ma lupt cu aceste intrebari Dialogue: 0,0:00:32.00,0:00:35.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,despre cum e capabil creierul sa fie creativ. Dialogue: 0,0:00:35.00,0:00:37.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Majoritatea acestui studiu l-am facut la universitatea Johns Hopkins. Dialogue: 0,0:00:37.00,0:00:39.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,si la Institutul National de Sanatate unde am lucrat inainte. Dialogue: 0,0:00:39.00,0:00:41.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Voi prezenta cateva experimente stiintifice Dialogue: 0,0:00:41.00,0:00:43.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,si voi incerca sa expun trei experimente muzicale. Dialogue: 0,0:00:43.00,0:00:45.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Voi incepe prin a rula un video. Dialogue: 0,0:00:45.00,0:00:48.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,E un clip cu Keith Jarret, un bine cunoscut improvizator de muzica jazz, Dialogue: 0,0:00:48.00,0:00:51.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,probabil cel mai bine cunoscut exemplu iconic Dialogue: 0,0:00:51.00,0:00:53.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,al cuiva care duce improvizatia la un nivel superior. Dialogue: 0,0:00:53.00,0:00:55.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,El va improviza concerte intregi Dialogue: 0,0:00:55.00,0:00:57.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,din mintea lui Dialogue: 0,0:00:57.00,0:00:59.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,si niciodata nu le va interpreta in acelasi fel. Dialogue: 0,0:00:59.00,0:01:01.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Pentru o forma de creativitate intensa Dialogue: 0,0:01:01.00,0:01:03.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,cred ca acesta e un exemplu excelent. Dialogue: 0,0:01:03.00,0:01:05.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Sa pornim clipul. Dialogue: 0,0:01:06.00,0:01:10.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,(Muzica) Dialogue: 0,0:02:02.00,0:02:05.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,E remarcabil, minunat ce se petrece acolo. Dialogue: 0,0:02:05.00,0:02:07.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Dintotdeauna -- doar ca ascultator, ca fan -- Dialogue: 0,0:02:07.00,0:02:09.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,ascult si sunt efectiv uimit. Dialogue: 0,0:02:09.00,0:02:11.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Ma intreb: cum poate fi posibil? Dialogue: 0,0:02:11.00,0:02:13.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Cum poate creierul sa genereze spontan Dialogue: 0,0:02:13.00,0:02:15.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,atat de multa informatie, atat de multa muzica? Dialogue: 0,0:02:15.00,0:02:18.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Asadar am pornit de la acest concept stiintific: Dialogue: 0,0:02:18.00,0:02:21.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,creativitatea artistica e magica dar nu magie, Dialogue: 0,0:02:21.00,0:02:23.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,adica e un produs al creierului. Dialogue: 0,0:02:23.00,0:02:26.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Nu exista multi oameni in coma care sa creeze arta. Dialogue: 0,0:02:26.00,0:02:28.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Deci cu aceasta notiune a creativitatii artistice Dialogue: 0,0:02:28.00,0:02:30.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,fiind de fapt un produs neurologic, Dialogue: 0,0:02:30.00,0:02:33.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,am pornit la studiul acestei teze Dialogue: 0,0:02:33.00,0:02:36.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,exact la fel cum studiem orice alt proces neurologic complex. Dialogue: 0,0:02:36.00,0:02:38.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Cred ca mi-am pus niste intrebari mai nuantate. Dialogue: 0,0:02:38.00,0:02:40.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Chiar e posibila studierea stiintifica a creativitatii? Dialogue: 0,0:02:40.00,0:02:42.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Cred ca asta-i o intrebare buna. Dialogue: 0,0:02:42.00,0:02:45.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Cele mai multe studii stiintifice despre muzica Dialogue: 0,0:02:45.00,0:02:47.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,sunt foarte complicate. Dialogue: 0,0:02:47.00,0:02:50.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,In aceste studii, e greu sa recunosti muzica din ele. Dialogue: 0,0:02:50.00,0:02:52.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,De fapt, par in intregime non-muzicale Dialogue: 0,0:02:52.00,0:02:54.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,fiind greu sa discerni ce-i determinat strict de muzica. Dialogue: 0,0:02:54.00,0:02:56.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Astfel, apare a doua intrebare: Dialogue: 0,0:02:56.00,0:02:58.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,De ce ar trebui oamenii de stiinta sa studieze creativitatea? Dialogue: 0,0:02:58.00,0:03:00.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Poate nu suntem oamenii potriviti sa facem asta. Dialogue: 0,0:03:00.00,0:03:02.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Posibil, Dialogue: 0,0:03:02.00,0:03:04.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,dar voi spune ca, dintr-o perspectiva stiintifica -- Dialogue: 0,0:03:04.00,0:03:06.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,am vorbit azi foarte mult despre inovatie -- Dialogue: 0,0:03:06.00,0:03:08.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,stiinta inovatiei. Dialogue: 0,0:03:08.00,0:03:10.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Studiul despre cum poate creierul sa inventeze Dialogue: 0,0:03:10.00,0:03:12.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,se afla doar la inceput. Dialogue: 0,0:03:12.00,0:03:15.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Intr-adevar stim foarte putin despre cum putem fi creativi. Dialogue: 0,0:03:15.00,0:03:17.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Cred ca vom vedea Dialogue: 0,0:03:17.00,0:03:19.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,in urmatorii 10, 20, 30 de ani Dialogue: 0,0:03:19.00,0:03:22.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,o adevarata stiinta a creativitatii care va inmuguri si va inflori. Dialogue: 0,0:03:22.00,0:03:24.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Pentru ca avem acum metode noi care ne permit Dialogue: 0,0:03:24.00,0:03:26.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,sa luam un astfel de proces complex, Dialogue: 0,0:03:26.00,0:03:28.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,ca improvizatia muzicii de jazz, si sa o studiem riguros . Dialogue: 0,0:03:28.00,0:03:30.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Deci se ajunge la creier. Dialogue: 0,0:03:30.00,0:03:32.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Toti avem acest creier remarcabil, Dialogue: 0,0:03:32.00,0:03:35.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,care-i insa foarte putin inteles. Dialogue: 0,0:03:35.00,0:03:37.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Cred ca neurologii Dialogue: 0,0:03:37.00,0:03:39.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,au mai multe intrebari decat raspunsuri. Dialogue: 0,0:03:39.00,0:03:41.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Si nici eu nu voi da multe raspunsuri astazi, Dialogue: 0,0:03:41.00,0:03:43.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,ci doar voi pune multe intrebari. Dialogue: 0,0:03:43.00,0:03:45.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,In esenta, asta-i ce fac eu in laborator. Dialogue: 0,0:03:45.00,0:03:47.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Pun intrebari despre ce face creierul sa ne permita creativitatea. Dialogue: 0,0:03:47.00,0:03:50.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Asta-i metoda de baza pe care o folosesc. Se numeste RMN functional. Dialogue: 0,0:03:50.00,0:03:53.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Daca ati fost intr-un scaner RMN, e foarte asemanator, Dialogue: 0,0:03:53.00,0:03:55.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,dar acesta este echipat intr-un mod special Dialogue: 0,0:03:55.00,0:03:57.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,nu doar pentru a fotografia creierul, Dialogue: 0,0:03:57.00,0:04:00.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,ci, totodata, zone active din creier. Dialogue: 0,0:04:00.00,0:04:02.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Se procedeaza in felul urmator. Dialogue: 0,0:04:02.00,0:04:04.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Exista ceva numit inregistrare BOLD, Dialogue: 0,0:04:04.00,0:04:06.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,adica inregistrarea nivelului de oxigen din sange. Dialogue: 0,0:04:06.00,0:04:08.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Cand te afli intr-un aparat fRMN, Dialogue: 0,0:04:08.00,0:04:10.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,te afli in interiorul unui magnet imens Dialogue: 0,0:04:10.00,0:04:12.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,care iti aliniaza moleculele in anumite zone. Dialogue: 0,0:04:12.00,0:04:15.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Cand o zona a creierului e activa, adica o zona neurala e activa, Dialogue: 0,0:04:15.00,0:04:18.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,aceasta primeste un flux de sange. Dialogue: 0,0:04:18.00,0:04:20.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Fluxul de sange suplimentar cauzeaza o intensificare Dialogue: 0,0:04:20.00,0:04:22.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,a volumului de sange din acea zona Dialogue: 0,0:04:22.00,0:04:25.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,cu o schimbare a concentratiei de 2-oxihemoglobina. Dialogue: 0,0:04:25.00,0:04:27.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,2-oxihemoglobina poate fi detectata de RMN, Dialogue: 0,0:04:27.00,0:04:29.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,in timp ce oxihemoglobina nu poate. Dialogue: 0,0:04:29.00,0:04:31.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Prin aceasta metoda de deductie -- Dialogue: 0,0:04:31.00,0:04:33.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,masuram circulatia sangelui, nu activitatea neurala -- Dialogue: 0,0:04:33.00,0:04:35.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,spunem ca o zona a creierului care primeste mai mult sange Dialogue: 0,0:04:35.00,0:04:37.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,a fost activa in timpul acelui proces. Dialogue: 0,0:04:37.00,0:04:39.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Si asta-i esenta functionarii fRMN-ului. Dialogue: 0,0:04:39.00,0:04:41.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,E folosita din anii '90 Dialogue: 0,0:04:41.00,0:04:44.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,pentru a studia procese complexe. Dialogue: 0,0:04:44.00,0:04:46.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Acum voi expune un studiu pe care l-am facut Dialogue: 0,0:04:46.00,0:04:48.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,constand in interpretarea de muzica Jazz intr-un scaner fRMN. Dialogue: 0,0:04:48.00,0:04:50.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Am facut acest studiu impreuna cu colegul meu, Alan Braun, la institutul NIH. Dialogue: 0,0:04:50.00,0:04:53.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Asta e un scurt clip ilustrand cum am facut acest proiect. Dialogue: 0,0:04:53.00,0:04:55.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,(Video) Charles Limb: Asta e o claviatura de plastic MIDI Dialogue: 0,0:04:55.00,0:04:57.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,pe care o folosim pentru experimentele de jazz. Dialogue: 0,0:04:57.00,0:04:59.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,E o claviatura cu 35 de clape Dialogue: 0,0:04:59.00,0:05:01.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,conceputa sa se potriveasca in scanerul RMN, Dialogue: 0,0:05:01.00,0:05:03.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,neafectata magnetic, Dialogue: 0,0:05:03.00,0:05:05.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,cu interferente minime Dialogue: 0,0:05:05.00,0:05:07.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,care sa nu modifice rezultatul Dialogue: 0,0:05:07.00,0:05:10.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,si aceasta perinita pentru a fi sprijinita pe picioarele interpretului Dialogue: 0,0:05:10.00,0:05:13.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,in timp ce sta pe spate si interpreteaza in interiorul RMN-ului. Dialogue: 0,0:05:13.00,0:05:16.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Functioneaza astfel -- asta nu produce nici un sunet. Dialogue: 0,0:05:16.00,0:05:18.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Transmite ce se numeste un semnal MIDI -- Dialogue: 0,0:05:18.00,0:05:20.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,adica interfata digitala de instrument muzical -- Dialogue: 0,0:05:20.00,0:05:23.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,prin aceste cabluri in cutie si apoi in calculator, Dialogue: 0,0:05:23.00,0:05:26.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,producand apoi sunete de pian de inalta calitate. Dialogue: 0,0:05:26.00,0:05:29.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,(Muzica) Dialogue: 0,0:05:32.00,0:05:52.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,(Muzica) Dialogue: 0,0:05:54.00,0:05:56.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,CL: Bun, deci functioneaza. Dialogue: 0,0:05:56.00,0:05:58.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Si cu aceasta claviatura de pian, Dialogue: 0,0:05:58.00,0:06:00.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,avem acum mijloacele pentru a studia un proces muzical. Dialogue: 0,0:06:00.00,0:06:03.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Deci ce faci acum cu aceasta claviatura faina? Dialogue: 0,0:06:03.00,0:06:05.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Nu poti doar sa spui: "Ce tare ca avem aceasta claviatura." Dialogue: 0,0:06:05.00,0:06:07.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Trebuie sa concepem un experiment stiintific. Dialogue: 0,0:06:07.00,0:06:10.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Deci experimentul consta in urmatoarele: Dialogue: 0,0:06:11.00,0:06:14.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Ce se petrece in creier in timpul redarii a ceva memorat, stiut pe dinafara, Dialogue: 0,0:06:14.00,0:06:16.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,si ce se intampla in creier atunci cand ceva Dialogue: 0,0:06:16.00,0:06:18.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,e generat sau improvizat spontan Dialogue: 0,0:06:18.00,0:06:20.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,producand reactii motrice similare, Dialogue: 0,0:06:20.00,0:06:23.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,privind prin prisma functiilor sensoriale motrice? Dialogue: 0,0:06:23.00,0:06:26.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Asadar, am aici ceea ce numim paradigme. Dialogue: 0,0:06:26.00,0:06:29.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Un exemplu de gama memorata, canta gama in sus si-n jos. Dialogue: 0,0:06:29.00,0:06:31.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Apoi improvizarea pe gama -- Dialogue: 0,0:06:31.00,0:06:33.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,patrimile de nota, metronomul, mana dreapta -- Dialogue: 0,0:06:33.00,0:06:35.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,stiintific e foarte corect, Dialogue: 0,0:06:35.00,0:06:37.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,dar muzical e foarte plictisitor. Dialogue: 0,0:06:37.00,0:06:39.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Si apoi, cea de jos, numita "paradigma jazz". Dialogue: 0,0:06:39.00,0:06:41.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Deci am adus cantareti profesionisti de jazz la NIH Dialogue: 0,0:06:41.00,0:06:44.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,pe care i-am pus sa memoreze aceasta piesa muzicala din stanga-jos, Dialogue: 0,0:06:44.00,0:06:46.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,-- chiar ce am interpretat eu -- Dialogue: 0,0:06:46.00,0:06:49.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,si apoi i-am pus sa improvizeze in aceiasi gama. Dialogue: 0,0:06:49.00,0:06:51.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Daca apasati pe simbolul de sunet din dreapta-jos, Dialogue: 0,0:06:51.00,0:06:53.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,asta e un exemplu de inregistrare din scaner. Dialogue: 0,0:06:53.00,0:06:58.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,(Muzica) Dialogue: 0,0:07:21.00,0:07:23.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,In fine, nu-i cel mai natural mediu Dialogue: 0,0:07:23.00,0:07:25.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,dar pot canta la instrument realmente. Dialogue: 0,0:07:25.00,0:07:27.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Am ascultat acel solo de 200 ori Dialogue: 0,0:07:27.00,0:07:29.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,si inca imi place. Dialogue: 0,0:07:29.00,0:07:31.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Muzicienii s-au simtit in largul lor pana la urma. Dialogue: 0,0:07:31.00,0:07:33.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Am masurat prima data numarul notelor. Dialogue: 0,0:07:33.00,0:07:35.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Cantau doar mai multe note cand improvizau? Dialogue: 0,0:07:35.00,0:07:37.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Nu era asta. Dialogue: 0,0:07:37.00,0:07:39.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Ne-am uitat apoi la activitatea cerebrala. Dialogue: 0,0:07:39.00,0:07:41.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Voi incerca sa rezum. Dialogue: 0,0:07:41.00,0:07:44.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Astea sunt reprezentari de contrast care arata diferenta Dialogue: 0,0:07:44.00,0:07:46.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,intre ceea ce se schimba cand improvizezi Dialogue: 0,0:07:46.00,0:07:48.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,comparativ cu interpretarea memorata. Dialogue: 0,0:07:48.00,0:07:50.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,In rosu e zona activa din cortexul prefrontal, Dialogue: 0,0:07:50.00,0:07:52.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,lobul frontal. Dialogue: 0,0:07:52.00,0:07:54.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Iar in albastru e zona inactiva. Dialogue: 0,0:07:54.00,0:07:56.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Am observat ca aceasta zona numita Dialogue: 0,0:07:56.00,0:07:58.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,cortex prefrontal s-a activat intens. Dialogue: 0,0:07:58.00,0:08:01.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Iar aceasta suprafata mare numita cortex prefrontal lateral Dialogue: 0,0:08:01.00,0:08:04.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,a inregistrat o mare scadere in activitate; voi rezuma aici. Dialogue: 0,0:08:04.00,0:08:06.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Astea sunt zone multifunctionale ale creierului. Dialogue: 0,0:08:06.00,0:08:09.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Nu sunt "zonele jazz" ale creierului. Dialogue: 0,0:08:09.00,0:08:11.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Ele fac o multime de lucruri Dialogue: 0,0:08:11.00,0:08:13.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,legate de relfexie, Dialogue: 0,0:08:13.00,0:08:15.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,introspectie, memorie activa, etc. Dialogue: 0,0:08:15.00,0:08:18.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,De fapt, constiinta e situata in lobul frontal. Dialogue: 0,0:08:18.00,0:08:20.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Dar aveam aceasta combinatie Dialogue: 0,0:08:20.00,0:08:23.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,a unei suprafete ce-i implicata in controlul de sine, focalizandu-se spre interior, Dialogue: 0,0:08:23.00,0:08:25.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,si aceasta suprafata despre care se crede a fi autobiografica, Dialogue: 0,0:08:25.00,0:08:27.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,sau exprexiva, focalizandu-se spre exterior. Dialogue: 0,0:08:27.00,0:08:29.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Si credem, cel putin preliminar -- Dialogue: 0,0:08:29.00,0:08:31.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,E doar un singur studiu. Probabil e gresit. Dialogue: 0,0:08:31.00,0:08:33.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Dar e un studiu. Dialogue: 0,0:08:33.00,0:08:36.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Credem, cel putin ca ipoteza rezonabila Dialogue: 0,0:08:36.00,0:08:38.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,ca pentru a fi creativ Dialogue: 0,0:08:38.00,0:08:40.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,trebuie sa ai aceasta disociere ciudata in lobul frontal. Dialogue: 0,0:08:40.00,0:08:42.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,O zona se deschide, o zona mare se inchide, Dialogue: 0,0:08:42.00,0:08:45.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,asa ca nu esti inhibat, esti dispus sa faci greseli, Dialogue: 0,0:08:45.00,0:08:47.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,ca sa nu blochezi mereu Dialogue: 0,0:08:47.00,0:08:50.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,toate aceste noi impulsuri generate. Dialogue: 0,0:08:50.00,0:08:53.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Stim ca muzica nu e intotdeauna o activitate solo -- Dialogue: 0,0:08:53.00,0:08:55.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,cateodata e creata comunicand. Dialogue: 0,0:08:55.00,0:08:57.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Asa ca urmatoarea intrebare a fost: Dialogue: 0,0:08:57.00,0:08:59.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Ce se intampla cand muzicienii canta simultan, Dialogue: 0,0:08:59.00,0:09:01.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,ceva numit "trading fours" [alterneaza tot la 4 masuri], Dialogue: 0,0:09:01.00,0:09:03.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,ceva normal intr-un experiment jazz. Dialogue: 0,0:09:03.00,0:09:05.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Astea sunt 12 masuri dintr-un blues. Dialogue: 0,0:09:05.00,0:09:07.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Le-am despartit in grupe de 4 masuri, Dialogue: 0,0:09:07.00,0:09:09.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,ca sa intelegeti cum se face schimbul. Dialogue: 0,0:09:09.00,0:09:11.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Am adus un muzician in scanerul RMN -- la fel -- Dialogue: 0,0:09:11.00,0:09:13.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,l-am pus sa memoreze aceasta melodie, Dialogue: 0,0:09:13.00,0:09:15.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,apoi in camera de control am avut un alt muzician Dialogue: 0,0:09:15.00,0:09:18.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,comunicand muzical interactiv. Dialogue: 0,0:09:18.00,0:09:20.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Acesta e muzicianul Mike Pope, Dialogue: 0,0:09:20.00,0:09:23.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,unul din cei mai buni basisti din lume si un pianist fantastic. Dialogue: 0,0:09:28.00,0:09:30.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Acum el interpreteaza o piesa Dialogue: 0,0:09:30.00,0:09:32.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,pe care tocmai am vazut-o Dialogue: 0,0:09:32.00,0:09:34.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,dar mai bine decat mine. Dialogue: 0,0:09:34.00,0:09:36.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,(Clip) CL: Intra, Mike. Dialogue: 0,0:09:36.00,0:09:38.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Asistenta: Nimic in buzunare, Mike? Dialogue: 0,0:09:38.00,0:09:41.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Mike Pope: Nu. Nimic in buzunare. >>Asistenta: OK. Dialogue: 0,0:09:50.00,0:09:52.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,CL: Trebuie sa ai atitudine pozitiva sa fi de acord cu asta. Dialogue: 0,0:09:52.00,0:09:54.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,(Rasete) Dialogue: 0,0:09:54.00,0:09:56.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,E chiar distractiv de fapt. Dialogue: 0,0:09:56.00,0:09:59.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Deci acum cantam interactiv. Dialogue: 0,0:09:59.00,0:10:02.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,El e inauntru. Ii vedeti picioarele. Dialogue: 0,0:10:03.00,0:10:06.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Iar eu aici in camera de control, cantand simultan. Dialogue: 0,0:10:06.00,0:10:09.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,(Muzica) Dialogue: 0,0:10:18.00,0:10:21.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,(Clip) Mike Pope: Asta-i o reprezentare chiar buna Dialogue: 0,0:10:21.00,0:10:23.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,a ceea ce se intampla in realitate. Dialogue: 0,0:10:23.00,0:10:25.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Si e bine ca nu-i prea in graba. Dialogue: 0,0:10:25.00,0:10:27.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Faptul ca facem odata si inca odata Dialogue: 0,0:10:27.00,0:10:30.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,ma lasa sa ma acomodez cu imprejurimile. Dialogue: 0,0:10:31.00,0:10:34.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Cel mai complicat pentru mine a fost aspectul chinestezic Dialogue: 0,0:10:34.00,0:10:36.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,de a ma uita la maini Dialogue: 0,0:10:36.00,0:10:38.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,prin 2 oglinzi, Dialogue: 0,0:10:38.00,0:10:40.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,intins pe spate Dialogue: 0,0:10:40.00,0:10:42.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,si neputandu-ma misca deloc, exceptand mainile. Dialogue: 0,0:10:42.00,0:10:44.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Asta a fost o incercare. Dialogue: 0,0:10:44.00,0:10:46.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Dar cu siguranta, Dialogue: 0,0:10:46.00,0:10:49.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,au fost momente, Dialogue: 0,0:10:49.00,0:10:51.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,sincer, Dialogue: 0,0:10:51.00,0:10:55.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,momente reale de interactiune muzicala, cu siguranta. Dialogue: 0,0:10:55.00,0:10:57.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,CL: OK, acum voi lua cateva momente. Dialogue: 0,0:10:57.00,0:10:59.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Asadar ceea ce vedeti aici -- Dialogue: 0,0:10:59.00,0:11:01.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Si cu asta fac un pacat principial in stiinta, Dialogue: 0,0:11:01.00,0:11:03.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,aratandu-va date prelimarii. Dialogue: 0,0:11:03.00,0:11:05.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Acestea sunt datele unui subiect. Dialogue: 0,0:11:05.00,0:11:07.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Acestea sunt, de fapt, datele lui Mike Pope. Dialogue: 0,0:11:07.00,0:11:09.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Asadar ce va arat aici? Dialogue: 0,0:11:09.00,0:11:12.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Cand el canta interactiv cu mine, improvizand, nu din memorie, Dialogue: 0,0:11:12.00,0:11:15.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,suprafata ce tine de vorbire s-a aprins, suprafata Broca, Dialogue: 0,0:11:15.00,0:11:17.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,care e girusul frontal inferior din stanga. Dialogue: 0,0:11:17.00,0:11:19.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,De fapt s-a aprins si omologul acestuia din dreapta. Dialogue: 0,0:11:19.00,0:11:22.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Asta e suprafata presupusa a fi implicata in comunicarea expresiva. Dialogue: 0,0:11:22.00,0:11:24.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Aceasta intreaga notiune ca muzica e un limbaj, Dialogue: 0,0:11:24.00,0:11:27.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,poate are o baza neurologica de fapt, Dialogue: 0,0:11:27.00,0:11:30.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,si o vedem atunci cand doi muzicieni comunica muzical. Dialogue: 0,0:11:30.00,0:11:32.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Am facut acest studiu pe 8 indivizi pana acum, Dialogue: 0,0:11:32.00,0:11:34.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,si abia organizam toate datele. Dialogue: 0,0:11:34.00,0:11:36.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Deci speram ca vom concluziona ceva semnificativ. Dialogue: 0,0:11:36.00,0:11:39.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Considerand acum legatura improvizatie-limbaj, ce urmeaza? Dialogue: 0,0:11:39.00,0:11:41.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Muzica rap, bineinteles, rap -- Dialogue: 0,0:11:41.00,0:11:43.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,free-style [stilul-liber]. Dialogue: 0,0:11:43.00,0:11:45.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Am fost intotdeauna fascinat de free-style. Dialogue: 0,0:11:45.00,0:11:47.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Asa ca haideti sa rulam aceasta inregistrare. Dialogue: 0,0:11:47.00,0:11:49.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,(Clip) Mos Def: ♫ Am pielea neagra, sunt inalt de 1.80 ♫ Dialogue: 0,0:11:49.00,0:11:52.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,♫ Facandu-mi de cap cand sunt in preajma ta ♫ Dialogue: 0,0:11:52.00,0:11:54.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,♫ Sinergie plina de stil, recunoaste simetria ♫ Dialogue: 0,0:11:54.00,0:11:57.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,♫ Incearca, raneste-ma, dizolva-ma chimic ♫ Dialogue: 0,0:11:57.00,0:11:59.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,♫ Nu sunt al 10-lea M.C, vorbind despre ce am fost ♫ Dialogue: 0,0:11:59.00,0:12:02.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,♫ Stilat ca un Kennedy, cum e 10 dupa 3 ♫ Dialogue: 0,0:12:02.00,0:12:05.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,♫ Cand spun unde-oi fi, fetele zic indoaie cheile ♫ Dialogue: 0,0:12:05.00,0:12:07.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,CL: Asadar observam o intreaga analogie Dialogue: 0,0:12:07.00,0:12:09.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,intre ce se petrece in rap si in jazz. Dialogue: 0,0:12:09.00,0:12:11.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Sunt chiar multe corelari intre cele 2 tipuri de muzica Dialogue: 0,0:12:11.00,0:12:13.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,desi apartin in doua epoci diferite. Dialogue: 0,0:12:13.00,0:12:15.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,In multe feluri, rap-ul deserveste aceleasi functii sociale Dialogue: 0,0:12:15.00,0:12:17.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,pe care muzica jazz le servea. Dialogue: 0,0:12:17.00,0:12:19.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Deci cum studiezi stiintific muzica rap? Dialogue: 0,0:12:19.00,0:12:21.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Colegii mei ma cam cred nebun. Dialogue: 0,0:12:21.00,0:12:23.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,dar eu cred ca-i foarte viabil. Dialogue: 0,0:12:23.00,0:12:25.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Deci asta-i ce faci: aduci un artist de free-style Dialogue: 0,0:12:25.00,0:12:27.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,il pui sa memoreze o melodie rap pe care o scrii tu pentru ei, Dialogue: 0,0:12:27.00,0:12:29.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,pe care n-au mai auzit-o niciodata, Dialogue: 0,0:12:29.00,0:12:31.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,iar apoi îi pui sa cante free-style. Dialogue: 0,0:12:31.00,0:12:33.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Asadar le-am spus colegilor de laborator ca voi canta rap pentru TED, Dialogue: 0,0:12:33.00,0:12:35.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,iar ei au spus, "Nu, nu vei face asta." Dialogue: 0,0:12:35.00,0:12:37.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Iar apoi m-am gandit -- Dialogue: 0,0:12:37.00,0:12:43.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,(Aplauze) Dialogue: 0,0:12:43.00,0:12:45.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Uite cum sta treaba. Dialogue: 0,0:12:45.00,0:12:48.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Cu acest ecran imens, puteti toti canta rap cu mine. Bine? Dialogue: 0,0:12:48.00,0:12:50.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Asa ca le-am cerut Dialogue: 0,0:12:50.00,0:12:52.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,sa memoreze de la acest buton de sunet din stanga jos. Dialogue: 0,0:12:52.00,0:12:55.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Asta-i partea controlata. Asta au memorat. Dialogue: 0,0:12:55.00,0:12:57.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Calculator: ♫ Memorie, ridica volumul. ♫ Dialogue: 0,0:12:57.00,0:13:00.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,CL: ♫ Ridica volumul repetat ♫ Dialogue: 0,0:13:00.00,0:13:03.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,♫ Ritmul si rima, ma completeaza ♫ Dialogue: 0,0:13:03.00,0:13:05.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,♫ Ascensiunea-i sublima cand sunt la microfon ♫ Dialogue: 0,0:13:05.00,0:13:08.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,♫ Aruncand rime care te lovesc ca un fulger ♫ Dialogue: 0,0:13:08.00,0:13:10.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,♫ Caut adevarul in aceasta misiune eterna ♫ Dialogue: 0,0:13:10.00,0:13:13.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,♫ Pasiunea mea nu-i moda, uite cum sunt imbracat ♫ Dialogue: 0,0:13:13.00,0:13:16.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,♫ Cuvinte psihopate, in capul meu apar ♫ Dialogue: 0,0:13:16.00,0:13:19.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,♫ Soptesc aceste versuri ca doar eu sa aud ♫ Dialogue: 0,0:13:19.00,0:13:21.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,♫ Arta in descoperire si in plutire ♫ Dialogue: 0,0:13:21.00,0:13:24.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,♫ In mintea celor neinhibati ♫ Dialogue: 0,0:13:24.00,0:13:27.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,♫ Si toate cuvintele astea tot curg ca ploaia♫ Dialogue: 0,0:13:27.00,0:13:30.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,♫ Am nevoie de un medic nebun sa-mi verifice creierul ♫ Dialogue: 0,0:13:30.00,0:13:39.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,(Aplauze) Dialogue: 0,0:13:39.00,0:13:42.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Va garantez, asta nu se va mai intampla niciodata. Dialogue: 0,0:13:42.00,0:13:44.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,(Rasete) Dialogue: 0,0:13:44.00,0:13:46.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Ce-i grozav la acesti free-style-eri, Dialogue: 0,0:13:46.00,0:13:48.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,e ca prind din zbor cuvinte cheie. Dialogue: 0,0:13:48.00,0:13:50.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Ei nu stiu ce urmeaza, dar vor auzi ceva spontan Dialogue: 0,0:13:50.00,0:13:52.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Da-i drumul, apasa pe butonul de sunet. Dialogue: 0,0:13:52.00,0:13:55.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Vor auzi aceste cuvine cheie: "like", "not" si "head". Dialogue: 0,0:13:55.00,0:13:57.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,El nu stie ce urmeaza. Dialogue: 0,0:13:57.00,0:13:59.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Free-style-er: ♫ Sunt intr-un fel de zbor ♫ Dialogue: 0,0:13:59.00,0:14:02.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,♫ pe bolta cereasca, in spatiu stelar ♫ Dialogue: 0,0:14:02.00,0:14:05.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,♫ Mai de mult, stateam in piramide si meditam ♫ Dialogue: 0,0:14:05.00,0:14:08.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,♫ Cu 2 microfoane plutind peste cap ♫ Dialogue: 0,0:14:08.00,0:14:11.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,♫ De-oi mai putea asculta, scuipand sunete ♫ Dialogue: 0,0:14:11.00,0:14:13.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,♫ Vad ca te strambi ♫ Dialogue: 0,0:14:13.00,0:14:15.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,♫ Predau elevilor in spatele clasei ♫ Dialogue: 0,0:14:15.00,0:14:18.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,♫ Mesajul apocaliptic ♫ Dialogue: 0,0:14:18.00,0:14:21.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,♫ Nu prea complicat, caci tre sa fie simplu ♫ Dialogue: 0,0:14:21.00,0:14:23.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,♫ instrumental ♫ Dialogue: 0,0:14:23.00,0:14:26.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,♫ Joc periculos cu Super Mario ♫ Dialogue: 0,0:14:26.00,0:14:30.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,♫ cu tobe si hip-hop ♫ Dialogue: 0,0:14:30.00,0:14:32.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,CL: Din nou, are loc un fenomen incredibil. Dialogue: 0,0:14:32.00,0:14:34.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Neurologic, el face ceva absolut remarcabil. Dialogue: 0,0:14:34.00,0:14:36.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Daca va place sau nu muzica este irelevant. Dialogue: 0,0:14:36.00,0:14:38.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Dar creativ vorbind, e un lucru fenomenal. Dialogue: 0,0:14:38.00,0:14:41.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Iata o scurta inregistrare despre cum adaptam asta in RMN . Dialogue: 0,0:14:41.00,0:14:44.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,(Rasete) Dialogue: 0,0:14:44.00,0:14:46.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,(Clip) CL: Suntem aici cu Emmanuel. Dialogue: 0,0:14:46.00,0:14:48.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Apropo, asta a fost inregistrat in scaner. Dialogue: 0,0:14:48.00,0:14:50.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,(Clip) CL: Acela-i Emmanuel in scanerul RMN. Dialogue: 0,0:14:51.00,0:14:54.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Tocmai a memorat o rima pentru noi. Dialogue: 0,0:14:57.00,0:15:00.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,♫ In fruntea masurilor fara repetare ♫ Dialogue: 0,0:15:00.00,0:15:03.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,♫ Ritmul si rima ma completeaza ♫ Dialogue: 0,0:15:03.00,0:15:06.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,♫ Ascensiunea e usoara cand sunt la microfon " Dialogue: 0,0:15:06.00,0:15:08.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,♫ Scuipand rime ce lovesc ca un fulger ♫ Dialogue: 0,0:15:08.00,0:15:11.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,♫ Caut un adevar in aceasta misiune ♫ Dialogue: 0,0:15:11.00,0:15:14.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,♫ Trec peste moda, vezi cum sunt imbracat ♫ Dialogue: 0,0:15:14.00,0:15:17.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,CL: Bun. Voi opri aici. Deci, ce vedem la creierul sau? Dialogue: 0,0:15:17.00,0:15:19.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Pai, astea sunt de fapt creierele a 4 rap-eri. Dialogue: 0,0:15:19.00,0:15:21.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Iar ce vedem sunt zonele de limbaj ce se aprind. Dialogue: 0,0:15:21.00,0:15:23.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,dar apoi -- cu ochii inchisi -- Dialogue: 0,0:15:23.00,0:15:26.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,cand se canta liber nu din memorie Dialogue: 0,0:15:26.00,0:15:28.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,se aprind zone majore ce tin de vedere. Dialogue: 0,0:15:28.00,0:15:31.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Activitate cerebrala majora implicata in coordonarea motorie. Dialogue: 0,0:15:31.00,0:15:34.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Activitatea cerebrala se intensifica daca faceti o treaba similara, Dialogue: 0,0:15:34.00,0:15:37.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,cand un procas e creativ iar cealalt e memorat. Dialogue: 0,0:15:38.00,0:15:40.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,E studiu preliminar, dar cred ca e chiar fain. Dialogue: 0,0:15:40.00,0:15:43.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Deci doar pentru a trage concluzii, avem de raspuns la multe intrebari. Dialogue: 0,0:15:43.00,0:15:46.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Si cum am spus, vom pune intrebari, nu vom da raspunsuri. Dialogue: 0,0:15:46.00,0:15:49.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Dar, neurologic, vrem sa ajungem la radacinile geniului creativ. Dialogue: 0,0:15:49.00,0:15:52.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Si cred, cu aceste metode, ne apropiem. Dialogue: 0,0:15:52.00,0:15:54.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Sper cu toata nadejdea ca in urmatorii 10, 20 de ani Dialogue: 0,0:15:54.00,0:15:56.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,vom vedea cu adevarat, studii semnificative Dialogue: 0,0:15:56.00,0:16:00.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,ce vor arata ca stiinta trebuie sa prinda din urma arta, Dialogue: 0,0:16:00.00,0:16:02.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,si poate acum pornim la drum sa ajungem acolo. Dialogue: 0,0:16:02.00,0:16:04.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Deci va multumesc pentru timpul acordat. Cu recunostinta. Dialogue: 0,0:16:04.00,0:16:09.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,(Aplauze)