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You know, it's a very[br]good question because I think

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people have wondered, is it as[br]simple as formalising what is

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now informal? And I think to[br]some extent, I don't think it's

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that's exactly the simple[br]solution. But it's very hard

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because, you know, I think one[br]of the difficulties that my team

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and I experienced and a funny[br]anecdote was, for example, we

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donated a bunch of 10 standard[br]issue gas masks to 10 scrap

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burners, who burned the copper[br]wires to salvage precious

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metals, and in an experiment[br]after making this, you know,

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small dent and this donation of[br]10 masks when we came back,

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let's say about a week and a[br]half later, to

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check up on the working[br]conditions and the

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developments to see if they were[br]using the masks we gave them,

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most of them really weren't. And[br]so it just shows you that sort

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of there's sort of like an[br]education and a sort of, you

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know, I've learned that in[br]working in places like

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Agbogbloshie in the informal[br]sector, trust is a currency. You

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know, people have to know people[br]at that level, you know, living

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below the poverty line need to[br]trust you. And so sometimes that

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can be a challenge in certain[br]situations, and it's something

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that needs to be addressed, but[br]it's definitely something worth

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exploring. But I'm confident in[br]saying that I don't really have

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the answers to as of yet,[br]because it is... the informal

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sector, people need to[br]understand that it is. It has a

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life of its own. It's, you know,[br]it doesn't deal with the same...

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you're dealing with language[br]barriers, access to new

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educational barriers, and other[br]impediments that make it

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difficult to you know to solve[br]issues simply or effectively all

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at once.