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Dialogue: 0,0:00:00.10,0:00:14.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,{\i1}34C3 preroll music{\i0}
Dialogue: 0,0:00:14.99,0:00:20.67,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Herald (H): Let me introduce: It's Sir\NWombat and Nero Lapislucis. So, give them
Dialogue: 0,0:00:20.67,0:00:28.11,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,a warm welcome and everybody is interested\Nin how to get the stuff done.
Dialogue: 0,0:00:30.97,0:00:32.65,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Nero (N):\N{\i1}unaudible{\i0}
Dialogue: 0,0:00:43.65,0:00:47.80,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,We are going to present our juice press,\Nwhich is this gorgeous instrument you can
Dialogue: 0,0:00:47.80,0:00:52.52,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,see over there. And then we will talk\Nabout the fermentation vessel
Dialogue: 0,0:00:52.52,0:00:57.47,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,you will need if you want to build one\Nyourself. And we will explain shortly
Dialogue: 0,0:00:57.47,0:01:03.21,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,again how you can create alcohol out of\Nthe yeast and the fruit juice. Afterwards
Dialogue: 0,0:01:03.21,0:01:09.95,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,we will present the model of a still which\Nyou can see over there on the desk.
Dialogue: 0,0:01:13.51,0:01:18.76,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Sir Wombat (W): By model we mean it doesn't\Nactually work, it only looks like it.
Dialogue: 0,0:01:18.76,0:01:25.74,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,N: It's a kind of a hypothetical operation\Nof a miniature still. Afterwards you will
Dialogue: 0,0:01:25.74,0:01:32.79,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,get to know an alternative method of\Ngetting high percent alcohol, which is the
Dialogue: 0,0:01:32.79,0:01:41.95,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,ice rifing. This is that. So, who are we?\NI'm Nero, I am kind of a professional
Dialogue: 0,0:01:41.95,0:01:47.28,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,viking. Why am I presenting this talk? I\Nwas studying abroad in Norway and I was
Dialogue: 0,0:01:47.28,0:01:51.89,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,too broke to buy the beer, so I had to\Nfind some solutions and I started making
Dialogue: 0,0:01:51.89,0:01:58.01,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the wine. And Sir Wombat over there is an\Nelectrical engineer and he's just trying
Dialogue: 0,0:01:58.01,0:02:05.73,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to build stuff since forever. Let's start\Nwith the juice press. I don't know - Do we
Dialogue: 0,0:02:05.73,0:02:09.74,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,have the camera? Or are we doing it\Nwithout?
Dialogue: 0,0:02:09.74,0:02:17.39,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,{\i1}Laughter{\i0}\NW: I can just hold it up and maybe you see it.
Dialogue: 0,0:02:17.39,0:02:19.94,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,N: So basically what we have is a wooden frame
Dialogue: 0,0:02:19.94,0:02:24.38,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and then there is a car jack attached to it.
Dialogue: 0,0:02:24.38,0:02:30.25,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,With that we press this kind of\Nwooden block down. And then we have on the
Dialogue: 0,0:02:30.25,0:02:36.25,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,right hand side it's like this wood part\Nwhich has a special shape so the juice can
Dialogue: 0,0:02:36.25,0:02:42.08,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,run off. This is on the lower side. And\Nthere is the fruit between it. And with
Dialogue: 0,0:02:42.08,0:02:47.23,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the car jack you get lots of pressure.\NActually if you boil the mash you can just
Dialogue: 0,0:02:47.23,0:02:53.21,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,use the kitchen towel. But it's a lot of\Nwork. So this is actually kind of nice.
Dialogue: 0,0:02:53.21,0:03:00.60,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,{\i1}Inaudible question from the audience{\i0}\NN: Yeah, you can do it with whole apples.
Dialogue: 0,0:03:00.60,0:03:04.37,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,You can cut them beforehand: You can put\Nthem in the oven for a little while and it
Dialogue: 0,0:03:04.37,0:03:11.15,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,makes it a lot easier. I don't know, I\Nthink it's easier if you kind of boil them
Dialogue: 0,0:03:11.15,0:03:15.28,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,or put them in the oven beforehand and cut\Nthem. Then you get a little bit more juice.
Dialogue: 0,0:03:15.28,0:03:19.71,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Because what you see when you try\Nthis is that you have a lot of work.
Dialogue: 0,0:03:19.71,0:03:27.64,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And a lot of fruit for actually very little\Njuice. Yeah, it's a lot of work
Dialogue: 0,0:03:27.64,0:03:32.74,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,W: {\i1}Inaudible{\i0}\NN: The thing is that the fruit juice, what
Dialogue: 0,0:03:32.74,0:03:40.15,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,is useful for the alcohol, it's basically\Njust the sugar water. You can cheat which
Dialogue: 0,0:03:40.15,0:03:44.81,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,is actually not allowed, but in theory you\Nmight cheat and add sugar to your fruit
Dialogue: 0,0:03:44.81,0:03:50.87,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,juice, then the yeast has more kind of\Nfruit and more basics to produce the
Dialogue: 0,0:03:50.87,0:03:55.73,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,alcohol from. So you can add molasses to\Nthe fruit juice and that will increase the
Dialogue: 0,0:03:55.73,0:04:05.82,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,alcohol outcome of your molasses. This is\Nin basics the process you just heard
Dialogue: 0,0:04:05.82,0:04:09.39,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,about. You have the sugar water and yeast.\NAnd the yeast is working in the sugar
Dialogue: 0,0:04:09.39,0:04:13.94,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,water and by that creating alcohol and\NCO2. That's why you need the fermentation
Dialogue: 0,0:04:13.94,0:04:17.96,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,vessel, which we will talk about in the\Nnext part. You can basically just use
Dialogue: 0,0:04:21.06,0:04:25.06,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,normal yeast from the supermarket. You\Ncould also use some yeast cultures which
Dialogue: 0,0:04:25.06,0:04:28.56,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,are on the fruits. There are also some\Nkind of hippie wine producers which just
Dialogue: 0,0:04:28.56,0:04:34.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,use the apples like they are and use the\Ncultures which already are on them. But
Dialogue: 0,0:04:34.00,0:04:37.34,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,it's better to use this specialized yeast,\Nbecause you have optimal alcohol outcome
Dialogue: 0,0:04:37.34,0:04:44.72,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and lower risk that there are other\Nbacteria evolving. What you don't want is
Dialogue: 0,0:04:44.72,0:04:49.49,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that there is oxygen coming into your\Nfermentation process, because then what
Dialogue: 0,0:04:49.49,0:04:54.31,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,you get isn't alcohol but vinegar. It just\Nkind of tastes disgusting and it's not
Dialogue: 0,0:04:54.31,0:04:59.77,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,what you make it for. That's why we are\Nbuilding the fermentation vessel. It's
Dialogue: 0,0:04:59.77,0:05:08.37,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,basically just a mechanism to keep the air\Naway. These are the ingredients you will
Dialogue: 0,0:05:08.37,0:05:14.60,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,need to do. On the left hand side is my\Nfirst experiment, on the right side is Sir
Dialogue: 0,0:05:14.60,0:05:20.41,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Wombat's. He has this special thing that\Nhe puts a pen in a kind of peanut butter
Dialogue: 0,0:05:20.41,0:05:24.65,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,jar beforehand so the whole thing sticks\Nbetter. You don't really need to do that
Dialogue: 0,0:05:28.65,0:05:33.31,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,if your hose is kind of thick enough. I\Nhad this guzzling hose and it worked just
Dialogue: 0,0:05:33.31,0:05:43.46,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,fine. You have to fix the hose in your\Nfermentation vessel and in this kind of
Dialogue: 0,0:05:43.46,0:05:50.13,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,jar which is filled with water. You can\Njust use glue for that but it needs to be
Dialogue: 0,0:05:50.13,0:05:55.72,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,airproof. What's happening is the CO2\Nwhich comes from the fermentation process
Dialogue: 0,0:05:55.72,0:06:02.12,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,can leave the vessel through the hose. So\Nit just goes into the glass of water. The
Dialogue: 0,0:06:02.12,0:06:08.22,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,effect is that no oxigen can come in and\Ngo the other way around. So it's really
Dialogue: 0,0:06:08.22,0:06:15.33,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,simple. It's useful to have a fermentation\Nstarter. For that you start with
Dialogue: 0,0:06:15.33,0:06:20.85,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,activating the dried yeast. The thing with\Nthat is, that you give the yeast, which
Dialogue: 0,0:06:20.85,0:06:26.11,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,you want to have a good life in there, a\Nhead start ahead of all other bacterias or
Dialogue: 0,0:06:26.11,0:06:34.20,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,kind of microbes which would want to\Nevolve in there. It's not that important
Dialogue: 0,0:06:34.20,0:06:38.29,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that you keep the air out because you\Ndon't keep it for that long. What you do
Dialogue: 0,0:06:38.29,0:06:42.59,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,is: You take the yeast you want, you put\Nsugar in there and you put the molasses in
Dialogue: 0,0:06:42.59,0:06:47.02,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,there. You just give it a head start with\Na lot of sugar and you keep it in there
Dialogue: 0,0:06:47.02,0:06:54.28,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,for kind of about 12 hours. Then you put\Nit in the fermentation vessel and add the
Dialogue: 0,0:06:54.28,0:06:59.43,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,rest of the molasses. So it's not really\Nin there for that long. Because of that
Dialogue: 0,0:06:59.43,0:07:04.88,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,it's not that important to keep the air\Nout. It doesn't have that much contact.
Dialogue: 0,0:07:04.88,0:07:09.26,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Here you can see the fermentation process.\NThis is kind of a peanut butter jar and
Dialogue: 0,0:07:09.26,0:07:18.18,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,there is the air and CO2 coming out. It\Nlooks like that when the fermentation is
Dialogue: 0,0:07:18.18,0:07:24.39,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,running on high it can get a lot faster.\NBut most of the time - It's also this nice
Dialogue: 0,0:07:24.39,0:07:30.19,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,blubbing sound. If you keep it in your\Nroom - you will have a good night. How
Dialogue: 0,0:07:30.19,0:07:34.39,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,will you know when your fermentation ends?\NSome of the yeast will die. You will
Dialogue: 0,0:07:34.39,0:07:38.37,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,notice this at the bottom of the\Nfermentation vessel. It will just float
Dialogue: 0,0:07:38.37,0:07:44.93,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,down. You will also notice that the\Nfermentation process is getting a lot
Dialogue: 0,0:07:44.93,0:07:49.35,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,slower. Why does this happen? Either you\Nhave already too much alcohol for the
Dialogue: 0,0:07:49.35,0:07:53.06,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,yeast to survive. This depends a bit on\Nthe kind of yeast you are using, but
Dialogue: 0,0:07:53.06,0:07:59.82,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,mostly it's about 15% you can get. Or\Nmaybe there's just no sugar left. You
Dialogue: 0,0:07:59.82,0:08:03.24,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,don't really want that to happen because\Nthen it doesn't really taste that good.
Dialogue: 0,0:08:03.24,0:08:08.22,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But basically it's also a possibility if\Nyou just want the alcohol. Just remember
Dialogue: 0,0:08:08.22,0:08:13.59,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that you shouldn't bottle it before it's\Ntotally finished because there's... As
Dialogue: 0,0:08:13.59,0:08:17.27,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,long as there is still some fermentation\Ngoing on, there is also CO2 coming out and
Dialogue: 0,0:08:17.27,0:08:23.28,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,your bottle might explode. You don't want\Nthat. But if you continue with distilling
Dialogue: 0,0:08:23.28,0:08:27.05,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the whole thing it doesn't really matter\Nbecause you work with it and you don't
Dialogue: 0,0:08:27.05,0:08:33.46,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,bottle it. So what do we do now? We have\Nthe finished wine in the fermentation
Dialogue: 0,0:08:33.46,0:08:39.75,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,vessel and you have the dead yeast on the\Nground. You should be careful when you
Dialogue: 0,0:08:39.75,0:08:45.69,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,fill it in bottels or another vessel,\Nbecause that yeast tastes kind of nasty.
Dialogue: 0,0:08:45.69,0:08:49.92,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So you should siphon it off. You can also\Npour it but then you should take a lot of
Dialogue: 0,0:08:49.92,0:08:58.32,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,time and be very careful with it. Yes, to\Nmeasure the alcohol content which will be
Dialogue: 0,0:08:58.32,0:09:04.90,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,as said, explained before about 15% in the\Nmash there's different tools. For the mash
Dialogue: 0,0:09:04.90,0:09:11.75,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,we have the vinometer. If you want to\Nmeasure it in the steel output you have
Dialogue: 0,0:09:11.75,0:09:19.85,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the hydrometer.This is when I give over to\Nmy friend. Yeah, sugar is a problem in
Dialogue: 0,0:09:19.85,0:09:26.56,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,measuring actually because it confuses the\Ninstrument - both of them. So you should
Dialogue: 0,0:09:26.56,0:09:32.03,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,consider this. And actually it's not\Nreally that fancy so you can get both of
Dialogue: 0,0:09:32.03,0:09:41.74,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,them for like 10€. It's useful to have. We\Nhad that already. The results you get with
Dialogue: 0,0:09:41.74,0:09:48.33,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the fruit wine is normally between 6% and\N13%. 13 is already kind of high. If you
Dialogue: 0,0:09:48.33,0:09:54.45,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,just use the process like I explained it,\Nit's probably a bit less. So that's
Dialogue: 0,0:09:54.45,0:10:01.59,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,actually why you would want to destill it\Nafterwards. W: So we're talking about what
Dialogue: 0,0:10:01.59,0:10:08.76,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,would happen if you'd want to build a\Nstill. We're not talking about an actual
Dialogue: 0,0:10:08.76,0:10:15.46,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,still. We're talking about a model that\Nlooks like it could work, but doesn't.
Dialogue: 0,0:10:15.46,0:10:20.36,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Because as we said - we wouldn't break any\Nrules, and Stefan said it's not allowed.
Dialogue: 0,0:10:20.36,0:10:30.08,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It's not legal to do so. The thing to\Nbuild such a model - such a home sized
Dialogue: 0,0:10:30.08,0:10:37.05,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,model, not an semi-professional one, you\Ndon't need all the... like 5000€ was the
Dialogue: 0,0:10:37.05,0:10:44.80,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,cheaptest professional one we talked\Nabout. For such a tiny model you could get
Dialogue: 0,0:10:44.80,0:10:51.88,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,away with 75€ if you're really resourceful\Nlike using an old pressure cooker from the
Dialogue: 0,0:10:51.88,0:10:58.46,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,GDR. Those are finally the cheapest ones\Nyou find on eBay This size is like 10€ -
Dialogue: 0,0:10:58.46,0:11:06.67,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,it's a nice thing. Some copper pipes you\Ncan get in your hardware store. The type
Dialogue: 0,0:11:06.67,0:11:13.75,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,of copper pipe is used to connect fridges.\NLike for that fresh water and ice cube
Dialogue: 0,0:11:13.75,0:11:19.78,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,feature fridges have.\N{\i1}unaudible{\i0}
Dialogue: 0,0:11:19.78,0:11:27.51,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The cooling system is just an old canister\Nand some electronics I'll talk about
Dialogue: 0,0:11:27.51,0:11:42.06,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,later. Let's just get back to the slides.\NBack to the slides please. Thanks.
Dialogue: 0,0:11:42.06,0:11:48.48,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The temperature sensing - we'll talk later\Nabout... And then that's it. So you just
Dialogue: 0,0:11:48.48,0:11:57.71,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,connect the copper pipes like this in a\NT-form with a cork on top. And the screw
Dialogue: 0,0:11:57.71,0:12:04.88,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,thing on the bottom to connect it to the\Nlid of the pressure cooker. At that point
Dialogue: 0,0:12:04.88,0:12:10.41,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,you use like an end cap for the copper\Npipe, drill a hole into it and connect the
Dialogue: 0,0:12:10.41,0:12:19.04,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,thinner copper pipe to it. That will go\Nonto the pressure cooker like this. Then
Dialogue: 0,0:12:19.04,0:12:23.63,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,you need to do some soldering. Most of you\Nprobably know how to solder. This another
Dialogue: 0,0:12:23.63,0:12:30.42,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,kind of soldering. It's the same thing -\Nyou use tin and copper and some flux to
Dialogue: 0,0:12:30.42,0:12:37.50,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,make it flow easier. And not a soldering\Niron but a blow torch, but that's all the
Dialogue: 0,0:12:37.50,0:12:48.21,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,difference there is. And then you just\Ndrill a hole into your cut open canister,
Dialogue: 0,0:12:48.21,0:12:54.25,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,push it on there and use lots of glue to\Nmake it waterproof - It's no rocket
Dialogue: 0,0:12:54.25,0:13:03.57,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,science. Then the temperature measurement\Nwe want to have that because in theory you
Dialogue: 0,0:13:03.57,0:13:14.59,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,need a very precise measurement. In\Npractice it didn't seem like we couldn't
Dialogue: 0,0:13:14.59,0:13:20.75,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,live without it, but it's very interesting\Nand it's helpful. How do we do that? Just
Dialogue: 0,0:13:20.75,0:13:26.23,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,use on of those cheap integrated digital\Ntemperature sensors, a Raspberry Pi, a
Dialogue: 0,0:13:26.23,0:13:33.64,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,real time clock to date the measurement\Nprotocol - that's just nice to have - and
Dialogue: 0,0:13:33.64,0:13:41.64,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,a bit of python script. Mine is ugly, so\Nit's not published, but everybody can do
Dialogue: 0,0:13:41.64,0:13:50.24,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,it. It's like a day of work that will\Noutput a small website that shows the
Dialogue: 0,0:13:50.24,0:13:56.85,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,current temperature graph. You can click\Non this link and download the current
Dialogue: 0,0:13:56.85,0:14:01.51,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,temperature, like all the measurements as\Nan Excel-file, and you can even download
Dialogue: 0,0:14:01.51,0:14:08.49,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,former measurements. And that's why we\Nneed the realtime clock so that we don't
Dialogue: 0,0:14:08.49,0:14:16.75,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,start a chaos. That's all there is. If you\Nhave WiFi that's nice because you can
Dialogue: 0,0:14:16.75,0:14:21.27,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,leave the room well it's running. But\Nyeah, you see something is not going well
Dialogue: 0,0:14:21.27,0:14:30.24,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and then you rush back. So you probably\Nstay with it anyway. Now, this is how a
Dialogue: 0,0:14:30.24,0:14:37.13,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,hypothetical run-through would look like.\NA tablet in the background, showing the
Dialogue: 0,0:14:37.13,0:14:41.86,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,temperatures, the WiFi-router ...\N{\i1}Laughter{\i0}
Dialogue: 0,0:14:41.86,0:14:52.07,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It's a really great guy that he puts up\Nwith this. So yeah, you open the lid, you
Dialogue: 0,0:14:52.07,0:14:59.06,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,put in your mash. Remember this is only a\Nmodel. Then if your pressure cooker has a
Dialogue: 0,0:14:59.06,0:15:07.86,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,broken locking-mechanism you use some\Nchains and a screw to keep the lid closed.
Dialogue: 0,0:15:07.86,0:15:13.75,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It's not as critical as actual pressure\Ncooker operation.
Dialogue: 0,0:15:13.75,0:15:20.86,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,{\i1}Laughter and applause{\i0}\NYeah. It's not as critical as actual
Dialogue: 0,0:15:20.86,0:15:25.11,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,pressure cooker operation because there\Nwill be no pressure. If pressure builds up
Dialogue: 0,0:15:25.11,0:15:33.43,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,you made some big mistake like plugging up\Nthe cooling pipe. If you thought the chain
Dialogue: 0,0:15:33.43,0:15:43.59,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,was funny then come around and show the\Nsafety valve. it's like... yeah... as As I
Dialogue: 0,0:15:43.59,0:15:49.41,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,said it's all cheap and made up. But it\Nworks. No, it doesn't.
Dialogue: 0,0:15:49.41,0:15:56.72,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,{\i1}Laughter{\i0}\NIt could work, so, as I said, you put mash
Dialogue: 0,0:15:56.72,0:16:06.16,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,in, close the lid, turn on the gas stove.\NIt's a gas stove because with no other
Dialogue: 0,0:16:06.16,0:16:14.09,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,kind of stove you can regulate the power as fast - maybe with an induction heater - but
Dialogue: 0,0:16:14.09,0:16:21.11,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that doesn't work with a GDR pressure cooker. Then you started heating. At some
Dialogue: 0,0:16:21.11,0:16:26.84,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,point evaporation will start, it will go up\Nhere, pass the thermometers so that we can
Dialogue: 0,0:16:26.84,0:16:32.84,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,see the gas temperature. And then the gas\Nwill run in here in the cooler. And there
Dialogue: 0,0:16:32.84,0:16:39.76,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,it hopefully condensates so that we don't\Nblow up the operation. Yeah, we put some
Dialogue: 0,0:16:39.76,0:16:46.43,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,great effort in into our non-functional\Nmodel. We even painted it to look chalked. (Laughter)
Dialogue: 0,0:16:46.43,0:16:51.91,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,There is another thermometer in here so\Nthat we see that the cooling system is as
Dialogue: 0,0:16:51.91,0:16:53.42,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,cold as it's supposed to be.
Dialogue: 0,0:16:54.90,0:16:59.89,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And then if\Nit would work the alcohol would drop out
Dialogue: 0,0:16:59.89,0:17:05.61,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,here and run over the last temperature\Nsensor so we can see
Dialogue: 0,0:17:05.61,0:17:10.36,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,how warm it is.
Dialogue: 0,0:17:10.36,0:17:14.23,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Because if it gets too warm it will be\Nvapor and that's bad.
Dialogue: 0,0:17:14.23,0:17:16.48,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And just for the fun of it there's an
Dialogue: 0,0:17:16.48,0:17:22.57,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,additional temperature\Nsensor on the connector board that's this
Dialogue: 0,0:17:22.57,0:17:30.34,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,one here. Yeah. It's just to measure the\Nroom temperature.So, yeah, now we come to
Dialogue: 0,0:17:30.34,0:17:35.58,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,a totally made up graph of an operation.
Dialogue: 0,0:17:35.58,0:17:40.04,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The red line is the gas temperature that
Dialogue: 0,0:17:40.04,0:17:45.72,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,is always the most important one. Because\Nat the current gas temperature, you can
Dialogue: 0,0:17:45.72,0:17:54.06,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,see what, or you can at least guess, what\Nchemical is currently running ...
Dialogue: 0,0:17:54.06,0:17:56.83,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,evaporating.
Dialogue: 0,0:17:56.83,0:18:03.92,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The big plateau you can see\Nat the top that is where the alcohol would
Dialogue: 0,0:18:03.92,0:18:10.20,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,be, assuming that for a long time there\Nwould be alcohol coming out of the mash,
Dialogue: 0,0:18:10.20,0:18:18.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that turns into a plateau. The orange\Ntemperature is the air temperature. The
Dialogue: 0,0:18:18.00,0:18:24.15,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,green line is what the output temperature\Nwould be. At the beginning it's something
Dialogue: 0,0:18:24.15,0:18:32.50,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,like the room temperature. And then at the\Npoint where actual product starts dripping
Dialogue: 0,0:18:32.50,0:18:40.18,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,out it cools down to the cooling water\Ntemperature and then running through it at
Dialogue: 0,0:18:40.18,0:18:46.81,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,some point it will start separating because\Nthe cooling can't keep up because we don't
Dialogue: 0,0:18:46.81,0:18:52.17,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,have a run-through cooler, we just have\Nwater in there, and that will start to
Dialogue: 0,0:18:52.17,0:18:59.50,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,heat up. The ticks at the end, where the\Ntemperature suddenly drops, yeah, that
Dialogue: 0,0:18:59.50,0:19:05.63,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,could be caused by having too high\Ntemperature and too much alcohol running
Dialogue: 0,0:19:05.63,0:19:11.69,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,through the cooler. So then you'd turn\Ndown the heat a bit and it would start to
Dialogue: 0,0:19:11.69,0:19:16.47,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,drop, and then you turn back up and it\Nstarts rising again. And at the end of a
Dialogue: 0,0:19:16.47,0:19:22.29,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,run-through, when you open the lid again\Nand the cold air comes there all the
Dialogue: 0,0:19:22.29,0:19:29.50,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,temperatures drop again. And you're done\Nwith it. So as I said, it's all
Dialogue: 0,0:19:29.50,0:19:37.45,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,hypothetical. And the hypothetical results\Ncould be something like ... Stop! There
Dialogue: 0,0:19:37.45,0:19:46.90,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,was this methanol thing. So, with a still\Nof this size, you won't get any dangerous
Dialogue: 0,0:19:46.90,0:19:59.07,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,amounts of methanol. Yeah, we just...To be\Nsafe we drop the first 15 ml. We dispose
Dialogue: 0,0:19:59.07,0:20:02.91,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,of them properly by burning them on the\Nground.
Dialogue: 0,0:20:02.91,0:20:03.16,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,{\i1}laughter{\i0}
Dialogue: 0,0:20:03.16,0:20:14.44,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Then, what could the output look like?
Dialogue: 0,0:20:14.44,0:20:21.60,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,If you would do this, it'd be a\Ngreat idea to separate the output in 100
Dialogue: 0,0:20:21.60,0:20:26.16,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,ml jars and measure each separately, so\Nthat you can follow what happens.
Dialogue: 0,0:20:26.16,0:20:34.59,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And it could be like the first jar would be maybe\N58%; maybe the 9th jar would be 35%,
Dialogue: 0,0:20:34.59,0:20:39.31,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,because the higher the temperature gets\Nthe more water evaporates and so the
Dialogue: 0,0:20:39.31,0:20:41.43,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,alcohol rate is lower.
Dialogue: 0,0:20:41.43,0:20:49.07,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Of those six\Nglasses maybe the first six would be
Dialogue: 0,0:20:49.07,0:20:55.50,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,usable, because the afterrun that has the\Nstuff that evaporates at the higher
Dialogue: 0,0:20:55.50,0:21:04.05,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,temperatures would taste bad. And if you\Nwanted higher percentages, you could just
Dialogue: 0,0:21:04.05,0:21:11.73,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,still it again and then you'd maybe get up\Nto 78%. As Francisco already said, we
Dialogue: 0,0:21:11.73,0:21:20.19,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,measure the output of the still - we would\Nmeasure it - with the hydrometer.
Dialogue: 0,0:21:20.19,0:21:29.18,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And then 78% percent is nothing you ever drink, you\Nonly taste alcohol and nothing of the
Dialogue: 0,0:21:29.18,0:21:36.10,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,fruit, so if you had a still output with\N78%, you would dilute it with water to
Dialogue: 0,0:21:36.10,0:21:38.62,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,get it to 40.
Dialogue: 0,0:21:38.62,0:21:47.27,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Now, this is illegal, so we\Ndon't do it, but there is another method
Dialogue: 0,0:21:47.27,0:21:56.59,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,which is kind of interesting. It basically\Nuses the same principle, just it's not
Dialogue: 0,0:21:56.59,0:22:02.51,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,separate boiling points, but separate\Nfreezing points. And then, to use this,
Dialogue: 0,0:22:02.51,0:22:09.48,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,you put alcohol -maybe red wine - into a\Nplastic bottle, put it into your freezer,
Dialogue: 0,0:22:09.48,0:22:15.04,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,let it freeze through, and then you turn\Nit around, and the first stuff that will
Dialogue: 0,0:22:15.04,0:22:22.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,drop out is alcohol. Kind of an\Ninteresting picture is this here, because
Dialogue: 0,0:22:22.99,0:22:31.02,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,we have liquid dropping down, which is so\Ncold that the condensation on the other
Dialogue: 0,0:22:31.02,0:22:37.49,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,vessel freezes. So, we know the liquid is\Nsomething with a freezing point well below
Dialogue: 0,0:22:37.49,0:22:43.66,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the freezing point of water. If you\Nmeasure this, you'll see that the output
Dialogue: 0,0:22:43.66,0:22:56.30,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,has something between 20% or 40% when\Nstarting with a red wine of 10%, so it
Dialogue: 0,0:22:56.30,0:23:02.63,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,really works. And I found it kind of\Ninteresting, because - except some crazy
Dialogue: 0,0:23:02.63,0:23:07.43,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,guy in Bavaria -, I don't know of anybody\Nactually using that. And that guy uses it
Dialogue: 0,0:23:07.43,0:23:14.27,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to the create world's strongest beer with\Nlike 58% and it's still legally beer
Dialogue: 0,0:23:14.27,0:23:18.15,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,because of German laws.\N{\i1}Laughter{\i0}
Dialogue: 0,0:23:18.15,0:23:28.05,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Here we see... That's the stuff that\Nstayed in the bottle, after it unfroze.
Dialogue: 0,0:23:28.05,0:23:33.84,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And that's the stuff that dripped out\Nbelow, so if you put a light behind it,
Dialogue: 0,0:23:33.84,0:23:41.85,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,you see that's the one side is much\Ndarker, so apparently the pigment is
Dialogue: 0,0:23:41.85,0:23:50.43,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,soluble in alcohol. It's just an\Ninteresting fact we saw, too. Well, that's
Dialogue: 0,0:23:50.43,0:23:57.25,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,what we did. So in conclusion, it's\Ntotally possible to build a non-functional
Dialogue: 0,0:23:57.25,0:24:04.74,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,model of a still with hardware-store\Nparts. Running this... risks exist, but
Dialogue: 0,0:24:04.74,0:24:09.65,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,are manageable. Watch out for proper\Ncooling; with such a cooler, it's just...
Dialogue: 0,0:24:09.65,0:24:16.94,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,make sure that there is water in it before\Nyou start it. Methanol poisoning can be
Dialogue: 0,0:24:16.94,0:24:27.58,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,prevented by using a clean mash like mash\Nyou'd drink unstilled. And discarding the
Dialogue: 0,0:24:27.58,0:24:36.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,first 15 ml. And if you had something like\Nthis and say you tried to still whisky,
Dialogue: 0,0:24:36.00,0:24:43.56,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,you should look out for foaming, because\Nif you try to run it too fast, maybe the
Dialogue: 0,0:24:43.56,0:24:51.64,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,mash would foam up and clog your still and\Nit'd be bad. So yeah, don't do that. In
Dialogue: 0,0:24:51.64,0:24:55.83,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,conclusion, it's great fun...\Ntheoretically.
Dialogue: 0,0:24:55.83,0:25:00.38,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,{\i1}Laughter{\i0}\NAnd yes, do not do this. It's illegal.
Dialogue: 0,0:25:00.38,0:25:02.14,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Thank you.
Dialogue: 0,0:25:02.14,0:25:11.39,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,{\i1}Applause{\i0}
Dialogue: 0,0:25:11.39,0:25:17.55,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,H: What a fabulous, practical\Nintroduction. So we have now five minutes
Dialogue: 0,0:25:17.55,0:25:25.38,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,for Q and A... Everybody who wants to ask\Na question please go to the microphones,
Dialogue: 0,0:25:25.38,0:25:35.80,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and please stay in the room for this five\Nminutes. If there are any... Keep in mind,
Dialogue: 0,0:25:35.80,0:25:42.39,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,this time everybody has to go out on this\Nside. So is there any question in the
Dialogue: 0,0:25:42.39,0:25:42.64,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,room? Microphone 1 please.
Dialogue: 0,0:25:42.64,0:25:50.02,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,\NMic1: Yes, thank you for the talk. Thank
Dialogue: 0,0:25:50.02,0:25:57.63,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,you for the ideas. Do you know how the\Nlegal aspects are in Switzerland?
Dialogue: 0,0:25:57.63,0:26:00.87,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,{\i1}Restrained laughter{\i0}
Dialogue: 0,0:26:00.87,0:26:06.05,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Stefan (S): In Switzerland you guys are
Dialogue: 0,0:26:06.05,0:26:10.05,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,actually quite well off, because you are\Nallowed to have small stills until the
Dialogue: 0,0:26:10.05,0:26:18.12,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,capacity of 5 litres. We have until the\Nend of the 2070ies that 0.5 l, which is
Dialogue: 0,0:26:18.12,0:26:24.36,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,basically useless. You can try it once,\Nbut for each run you get maybe a shot of
Dialogue: 0,0:26:24.36,0:26:30.64,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,usable liquor. In Switzerland, you have 5\Nl and then you get at least some... yeah,
Dialogue: 0,0:26:30.64,0:26:36.04,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,200 ml of usable spirits, and this is\Nactually fun to tinker with. This is
Dialogue: 0,0:26:36.04,0:26:40.66,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,something you and your fellows can, well,\Nhave a decent evening.
Dialogue: 0,0:26:40.66,0:26:45.47,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,H: Microphone 5.\NMic5: Yeah, so... When I saw the
Dialogue: 0,0:26:45.47,0:26:50.41,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,electronics, that's usually not so safe to\Ndrink from lead and everything. So, do you
Dialogue: 0,0:26:50.41,0:26:55.65,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,have any tips for how to solder, so it's\Nsafe for drinking?
Dialogue: 0,0:26:55.65,0:27:04.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,W: Yeah, I forgot to mention it, we used\Nlead free solder. That's a really great
Dialogue: 0,0:27:04.99,0:27:12.59,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,comment of you. And I looked it up and\Nsolder, you can find it in the hardware
Dialogue: 0,0:27:12.59,0:27:18.70,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,store next to the copper tubes that is\Nlead-free. But check that to be sure.
Dialogue: 0,0:27:18.70,0:27:22.62,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,You don't want lead into your spirits.
Dialogue: 0,0:27:22.62,0:27:24.06,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,H: Microphone 1.
Dialogue: 0,0:27:24.06,0:27:30.71,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Mic1: Would you do the cooling per air\Nflow instead of water?
Dialogue: 0,0:27:30.71,0:27:39.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,W: I've seen online some people who did\Nthat with a construction that looked kind
Dialogue: 0,0:27:39.00,0:27:45.91,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,of like a CPU cooler attached to something\Nwhich had the vaporized alcohol run
Dialogue: 0,0:27:45.91,0:27:56.90,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,through it. I mean, it'd be illegal to\Ntry, so I haven't and... But this guy
Dialogue: 0,0:27:56.90,0:28:03.89,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,apparently has and it worked for him, so..\NYeah. But I don't know how you'd
Dialogue: 0,0:28:03.89,0:28:10.11,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,construct the copper block which you\Nattach to the CPU cooler, so there's that.
Dialogue: 0,0:28:10.11,0:28:16.67,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,S: I've seen silver etchings in really,\Nreally old manuscripts that were using
Dialogue: 0,0:28:16.67,0:28:22.57,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,just air to cool down, but... well, that's\Ntechnology 500 years ago that says "Yeah,
Dialogue: 0,0:28:22.57,0:28:25.78,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,use water."
Dialogue: 0,0:28:25.78,0:28:27.45,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,H: Microphone 5.
Dialogue: 0,0:28:27.45,0:28:37.89,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Mic5: You showed the glass part still and\Nyou said this could not be purchased after
Dialogue: 0,0:28:37.89,0:28:44.10,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the 1st of January, right? But if you just\Npurchase the single parts, because it's
Dialogue: 0,0:28:44.10,0:28:48.18,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,standard lab equipment, is this also\Nillegal?
Dialogue: 0,0:28:48.18,0:28:52.53,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,S: Yes, I mean, you don't purchase a still\Nper se, do you?
Dialogue: 0,0:28:52.53,0:28:55.66,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Mic5: Exactly, it's standard glass...\NS: I don't think this is gonna be a
Dialogue: 0,0:28:55.66,0:29:01.43,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,problem, but, you know there's laboratory\Nequipments and they sell you a still made
Dialogue: 0,0:29:01.43,0:29:08.80,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,from glass for training distillation...\NAnd this costs some 250 euros and they
Dialogue: 0,0:29:08.80,0:29:14.96,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,sell you the same exact part this still is\Nmade of for cheaper. So basically, order 3
Dialogue: 0,0:29:14.96,0:29:19.81,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,or times...3 or 4 times different\Nequipment parts, maybe from different...
Dialogue: 0,0:29:19.81,0:29:24.72,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And...I mean, this is ridiculous. Really,\Nit is.
Dialogue: 0,0:29:24.72,0:29:26.56,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Mic5: Thanks.
Dialogue: 0,0:29:26.56,0:29:27.92,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,H: Okay, Mikrophone 1.
Dialogue: 0,0:29:27.92,0:29:32.72,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Mic1: Yeah, hi. Thank you for your\Ntheoretical explanation. I have one
Dialogue: 0,0:29:32.72,0:29:35.70,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,question but first I just wanted to\Nmention, that you can build all this
Dialogue: 0,0:29:35.70,0:29:41.64,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,without programming. You can buy a\Nphysical thing to measure the temperature,
Dialogue: 0,0:29:41.64,0:29:46.85,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,so if anybody is afraid because of that\Npart. And than yeah, my question is there
Dialogue: 0,0:29:46.85,0:29:52.69,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,a reason why you don't use or just\Nmentioned, turbo yeast, stuff like
Dialogue: 0,0:29:52.69,0:29:58.88,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that where you can reach 20 percents in\Ntwo days. Is it not that tasty or stuff?
Dialogue: 0,0:29:58.88,0:30:04.70,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,N: Yeah, I think actually we just used the\Nfirst one, we got hands on, didn't we?
Dialogue: 0,0:30:04.70,0:30:10.44,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,For the first experiments. I mean, you could\Ntry it but then you always have, it has
Dialogue: 0,0:30:10.44,0:30:13.82,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,negative parts, so... maybe it's the\Ntaste, maybe it's something else.
Dialogue: 0,0:30:13.82,0:30:19.64,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But I mean, I wouldn't claim that you \Nachieve high quality taste with
Dialogue: 0,0:30:19.64,0:30:21.65,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,what we just showed.
Dialogue: 0,0:30:21.65,0:30:24.85,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,S: I can answer one part for the
Dialogue: 0,0:30:24.85,0:30:30.02,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,"Abfindungsbrennerei", you could use turbo\Nyeast, but turbo yeast is something...
Dialogue: 0,0:30:30.02,0:30:34.92,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I'm not really sure about the translation. It\Nis called "Hefenährsalze" which is salts,
Dialogue: 0,0:30:34.92,0:30:38.98,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that you need, to actually have an\Nenvironment for this turbo yeast. And these
Dialogue: 0,0:30:38.98,0:30:42.96,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,"Hefenährsalze" are unfortunely not\Nallowed in "Abfindungsbrennerei".
Dialogue: 0,0:30:42.96,0:30:47.82,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So usally you don't...you don't use turbo\Nyeast and you don't actually need it for
Dialogue: 0,0:30:47.82,0:30:52.09,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,fruit spirits. It's okay, if you want to\Nmake grain spirits but you know the higher
Dialogue: 0,0:30:52.09,0:30:59.01,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the yeast ferments the less taste and\Nscent remains in the destillate.
Dialogue: 0,0:30:59.01,0:31:03.13,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So we won't have taste otherwise we could just\Nbuy vodka in the store.
Dialogue: 0,0:31:03.13,0:31:09.75,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,H: Okay, Mikrophone 5, please.\NMic5: Thanks again for your talk.
Dialogue: 0,0:31:09.75,0:31:15.89,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Regarding the cooling. Is it necessary to\Ncool it with room temperature water or why
Dialogue: 0,0:31:15.89,0:31:23.44,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,not chuck in some ice cubes or crushed ice\Nto keep the temperature lower or hinder
Dialogue: 0,0:31:23.44,0:31:26.43,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the rising of the temperature in the\Ncooling vessel?
Dialogue: 0,0:31:26.43,0:31:32.26,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,W: Well let's say we had run this\Nhypothetical operation in our minds
Dialogue: 0,0:31:32.26,0:31:38.16,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,multiple times. Maybe the first time we\Nhad tried it with ice cubes and then
Dialogue: 0,0:31:38.16,0:31:47.08,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,started exchanging the water. Maybe we had\Na few times thought about running it and
Dialogue: 0,0:31:47.08,0:31:52.76,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,using just tap water and exchanging the\Ntap water multiple times. And then maybe
Dialogue: 0,0:31:52.76,0:31:59.29,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,in our minds one time we forgot to change\Nthe water and it still would have worked,
Dialogue: 0,0:31:59.29,0:32:07.64,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,so we made up all further operations just\Nwith a bucket of water and not changing
Dialogue: 0,0:32:07.64,0:32:13.28,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,it, so yeah. Point is, that's the easiest\Nway and it works.
Dialogue: 0,0:32:13.28,0:32:17.85,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,M5: Excellent.\NH: And I saw there is some question from
Dialogue: 0,0:32:17.85,0:32:20.85,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the internet.\NSignal angel: Exactly. The internet wants
Dialogue: 0,0:32:20.85,0:32:29.95,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to know if there is a limit or a legal\Nlimit to the freeze destilation of the ice
Dialogue: 0,0:32:29.95,0:32:35.33,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,rifing process?\NW: I tried to look it up, but I didn't
Dialogue: 0,0:32:35.33,0:32:43.89,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,find anything about it. So, maybe there is\Na thing that if you...
Dialogue: 0,0:32:43.89,0:32:50.44,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Let's just stay with the beer guy from\NBavaria. The customs actually have a page
Dialogue: 0,0:32:50.44,0:32:58.75,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,about producing beer at home. You can do\Nthat legally in Germany and the first 100
Dialogue: 0,0:32:58.75,0:33:04.96,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,liters are tax free, so you can just do\Nthat. So, yeah, then you have 100 liters
Dialogue: 0,0:33:04.96,0:33:09.61,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,of beer and you start concentrating them\Nand when you are done with that it gets
Dialogue: 0,0:33:09.61,0:33:16.55,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,complicated. So, I guess that's the limit.\NAnd then that guy probably just taxes the
Dialogue: 0,0:33:16.55,0:33:21.60,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,further beer and that's how he does it.\NN: But then you don't have to register
Dialogue: 0,0:33:21.60,0:33:26.25,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,your freezer at the tax office so maybe\Npeople won't be that eager to check.
Dialogue: 0,0:33:26.25,0:33:31.23,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,H: Ok then the last two questions,\NMicrophone 1.
Dialogue: 0,0:33:31.23,0:33:36.98,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Mic1: Okay, so my question is about the\Nfreezing method as well. What is about the
Dialogue: 0,0:33:36.98,0:33:41.54,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,methanol for the freezing method. Is there\Nsome way to get rid of this, or is it
Dialogue: 0,0:33:41.54,0:33:47.52,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,really unnecessary?\NW: Well, as I said the stuff in the
Dialogue: 0,0:33:47.52,0:33:54.35,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,pictures was red wine from Aldi because\Nyou don't experiment with expensive stuff.
Dialogue: 0,0:33:54.35,0:34:03.57,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And if I drink a whole bottle of Aldi red\Nwine, nothing bad happens to me. So I
Dialogue: 0,0:34:03.57,0:34:08.26,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,guess if I take any part of a bottle of\Nred wine from Aldi, nothing bad will
Dialogue: 0,0:34:08.26,0:34:10.18,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,happen, too. So there's that.
Dialogue: 0,0:34:10.18,0:34:15.47,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Mic1: So there shouldn't be \Nmethanol in the orginal stuff.
Dialogue: 0,0:34:15.47,0:34:20.59,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,A: There probably will be but less \Nenough so that it's not a problem.
Dialogue: 0,0:34:20.59,0:34:22.15,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,\NH: Okay.
Dialogue: 0,0:34:22.15,0:34:27.54,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,S:The thing about the methanol is, if I'm\Nallowed to add, methanol comes from the
Dialogue: 0,0:34:27.54,0:34:32.96,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,pectines. Pectines are basically the\Nbuilding substance of the cells.
Dialogue: 0,0:34:32.96,0:34:39.02,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But if you have juice or wine we already pressed \Nit down and the pectins stay in the stuff
Dialogue: 0,0:34:39.02,0:34:45.75,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,we throw away and so in the juice and in\Nthe wine that we cool down so there is
Dialogue: 0,0:34:45.75,0:34:51.40,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,very little methanol in it. That is\Ndifferent if we make a mash and have all
Dialogue: 0,0:34:51.40,0:34:56.10,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the cell residue still in the mash, then\Nwe have the methanol in this mash.
Dialogue: 0,0:34:56.11,0:34:59.04,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And so we have it in the destillate.
Dialogue: 0,0:34:59.04,0:35:02.07,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,H: Okay, the last question, \Nmicrophone one please.
Dialogue: 0,0:35:02.07,0:35:08.60,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Mic1: Hi. Thanks for a great talk. My questions \Nare around the head, hearts and tail,
Dialogue: 0,0:35:08.60,0:35:13.19,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the hacked distilling method that, \NI gather, you pretty much did
Dialogue: 0,0:35:13.19,0:35:17.20,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,what you took for second\Nthird, fourth part of it, and you divided
Dialogue: 0,0:35:17.20,0:35:23.94,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,it up like that. But in the craft\Ndistillery, how do you do to use it, but
Dialogue: 0,0:35:23.94,0:35:29.10,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,controlling the temperature of the\Nevaporation and the stilling liquid, or
Dialogue: 0,0:35:29.10,0:35:33.89,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,do you also do it by breaking into segments? \NWhat's the technique you used to separate?
Dialogue: 0,0:35:33.89,0:35:37.10,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,\NS: There's actually many roads that lead
Dialogue: 0,0:35:37.10,0:35:42.33,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to Rome. So you could basically use this\Nfractioning method that there was
Dialogue: 0,0:35:42.33,0:35:47.36,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,described here that you just take one liter and \None liter and one liter and then you check it
Dialogue: 0,0:35:47.36,0:35:53.20,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,by smelling and tasting, if it's okay, or\Nif it's not. And then the other way is,
Dialogue: 0,0:35:53.20,0:35:58.52,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,for example, temperature control. So if\Nyou buy a modern still from an experienced
Dialogue: 0,0:35:58.52,0:36:04.47,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,copper smith, this is made with any types\Nof sensors and that are telling you the
Dialogue: 0,0:36:04.47,0:36:08.24,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,temperatures, the flow, the alcohol\Ncontent. So you can basically program your
Dialogue: 0,0:36:08.24,0:36:14.40,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,still to automatically cut the foreshots\Nand the aftershots. So this is another
Dialogue: 0,0:36:14.40,0:36:19.62,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,way. Then you could, for example, distill\Nonce or twice, and with the first
Dialogue: 0,0:36:19.62,0:36:24.14,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,distillation, just take every alcohol\Nthat's coming out and then collect this
Dialogue: 0,0:36:24.14,0:36:29.38,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,first run, and then redistill it, and then\Nmake your cuts for the heads and the
Dialogue: 0,0:36:29.38,0:36:32.90,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,tails. And you can make it otherwise it\Ncan cut the head and tails in the first
Dialogue: 0,0:36:32.90,0:36:39.78,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,run, and then just basically concentrate\Nin the redistillation. So there's many
Dialogue: 0,0:36:39.78,0:36:44.02,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,roads that lead to Rome and you're just\Ngonna find out your way that suits you
Dialogue: 0,0:36:44.02,0:36:52.48,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,best. But if you start, I would take the\Nfracturing, the fracturing method. Yes.
Dialogue: 0,0:36:52.48,0:36:56.85,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Mic1: What was your run, your still on?\NWhat technique did you use for your
Dialogue: 0,0:36:56.85,0:37:00.57,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,business, your still?
Dialogue: 0,0:37:00.57,0:37:04.88,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,S: You mean my still at home? \NThe craft still that I get on the...?
Dialogue: 0,0:37:04.88,0:37:07.38,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Yeah, this is experience.
Dialogue: 0,0:37:07.38,0:37:09.88,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So we know the first 1.5 liters\Nis foreshots,
Dialogue: 0,0:37:09.88,0:37:14.58,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,so we collect those and then we\Nredistill them again. But. Yeah.
Dialogue: 0,0:37:14.58,0:37:20.77,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,At some time my great-grandfather, most\Nprobably found out the way and he taught them
Dialogue: 0,0:37:20.77,0:37:26.41,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,his son and his son. And I know that I\Ndidn't need to get rid of 1.5l of foreshots.
Dialogue: 0,0:37:26.41,0:37:28.80,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Mic1: Thank you.\NS: You are welcome.
Dialogue: 0,0:37:28.80,0:37:33.14,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,H: Then at the end of\Nthis double feature, I expect a very big
Dialogue: 0,0:37:33.14,0:37:41.57,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,warm applause for Franziska, Andreas,\Nand Stefan
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