[Script Info] Title: [Events] Format: Layer, Start, End, Style, Name, MarginL, MarginR, MarginV, Effect, Text Dialogue: 0,0:00:10.52,0:00:13.62,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,This comes from Michael Kennedy. Dialogue: 0,0:00:13.62,0:00:16.34,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,He says, "I've been studying theology Dialogue: 0,0:00:16.34,0:00:18.29,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,an extensive amount lately. Dialogue: 0,0:00:18.29,0:00:20.28,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I believe in reformed theology. Dialogue: 0,0:00:20.28,0:00:24.96,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I believe repentance is essential\Nto a Christian life. Dialogue: 0,0:00:24.96,0:00:25.89,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,My question is, Dialogue: 0,0:00:25.89,0:00:28.34,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,is it possible for theology, Dialogue: 0,0:00:28.34,0:00:31.78,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,even if it's biblically accurate and true Dialogue: 0,0:00:31.78,0:00:34.17,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to become an idol Dialogue: 0,0:00:34.17,0:00:37.100,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,or an addiction?" Dialogue: 0,0:00:37.100,0:00:42.51,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Now, the Bible in one place, Dialogue: 0,0:00:42.51,0:00:44.94,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,namely 1 Corinthians 8:1 Dialogue: 0,0:00:44.94,0:00:48.76,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,talks about knowledge that puffs up. Dialogue: 0,0:00:48.76,0:00:50.85,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Have you guys ever read about that? Dialogue: 0,0:00:50.85,0:00:53.16,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And yet if you go somewhere else - Dialogue: 0,0:00:53.16,0:00:55.01,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I've already mentioned Phillipians 1:9 Dialogue: 0,0:00:55.01,0:00:57.13,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,a couple times, so let's mention it again. Dialogue: 0,0:00:57.13,0:00:59.78,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,"My prayer is that your love \Nmay abound more and more Dialogue: 0,0:00:59.78,0:01:02.66,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,with knowledge and all discernment." Dialogue: 0,0:01:02.66,0:01:06.21,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Is all knowledge bad? Dialogue: 0,0:01:06.21,0:01:08.95,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Paul's praying that people would have Dialogue: 0,0:01:08.95,0:01:11.16,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,knowledge and discernment. Dialogue: 0,0:01:11.16,0:01:14.22,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So, there is a knowledge that puffs up. Dialogue: 0,0:01:14.22,0:01:18.62,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,There is a knowledge that \Nincreases our discernment. Dialogue: 0,0:01:18.62,0:01:20.29,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,There is a knowledge that puffs up. Dialogue: 0,0:01:20.29,0:01:23.63,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,There is a knowledge also\Nthat humbles, is there not? Dialogue: 0,0:01:23.63,0:01:25.72,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I mean, can't we learn some things Dialogue: 0,0:01:25.72,0:01:28.68,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that really humble us Dialogue: 0,0:01:28.68,0:01:31.56,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and make God greater\Nin our estimation? Dialogue: 0,0:01:31.56,0:01:33.53,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Haven't you learned some things before Dialogue: 0,0:01:33.53,0:01:36.65,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that you found very humbling? Dialogue: 0,0:01:36.65,0:01:38.16,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,That have made you just feel Dialogue: 0,0:01:38.16,0:01:43.86,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,awful small before the great God? Dialogue: 0,0:01:43.86,0:01:45.82,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Not all knowledge is bad. Dialogue: 0,0:01:45.82,0:01:47.38,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But not all knowledge is good. Dialogue: 0,0:01:47.38,0:01:50.20,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,There is a knowledge that puffs up. Dialogue: 0,0:01:50.20,0:01:53.37,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And I would say this, Dialogue: 0,0:01:53.37,0:01:58.56,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,theology can be a whole lot\Nlike Bible translations, right? Dialogue: 0,0:01:58.56,0:02:02.02,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I mean is the King James Bible good? Dialogue: 0,0:02:02.02,0:02:05.32,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Folks, it was an excellent translation. Dialogue: 0,0:02:05.32,0:02:10.04,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It stood the test for 400 years. Dialogue: 0,0:02:10.04,0:02:11.01,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Tremendous. Dialogue: 0,0:02:11.01,0:02:15.22,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,God used that translation in mighty\Nand tremendous ways. Dialogue: 0,0:02:15.22,0:02:17.85,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Are the doctrines of grace good? Dialogue: 0,0:02:17.85,0:02:19.22,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Well, certainly they are. Dialogue: 0,0:02:19.22,0:02:20.56,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But I'll tell you this, Dialogue: 0,0:02:20.56,0:02:23.49,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,there are Calvinists in hell. Dialogue: 0,0:02:23.49,0:02:28.36,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And there are KJV only people in hell. Dialogue: 0,0:02:28.36,0:02:29.30,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And you know what? Dialogue: 0,0:02:29.30,0:02:30.82,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,In my own estimation, Dialogue: 0,0:02:30.82,0:02:33.69,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I have found some professing\NChristian Calvinists, Dialogue: 0,0:02:33.69,0:02:36.16,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,professing Christian\NKing James only people... Dialogue: 0,0:02:36.16,0:02:39.20,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Look, I don't want to stereotype, Dialogue: 0,0:02:39.20,0:02:42.86,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and obviously there's a bazillion \Nexceptions to this, Dialogue: 0,0:02:42.86,0:02:45.02,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but some of the most Dialogue: 0,0:02:45.02,0:02:50.16,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,cantankerous professing\NChristian people Dialogue: 0,0:02:50.16,0:02:57.43,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,can just be people that aren't\N Dialogue: 0,0:02:57.43,0:03:01.90,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,so nice to be around sometimes. Dialogue: 0,0:03:01.90,0:03:09.24,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Look, whatever Bible you have, Dialogue: 0,0:03:09.24,0:03:11.04,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,it ought to be teaching you Dialogue: 0,0:03:11.04,0:03:15.86,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,how to love Christians more and more. Dialogue: 0,0:03:15.86,0:03:20.09,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Whatever doctrine you have, Dialogue: 0,0:03:20.09,0:03:22.53,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,whatever theology you have, Dialogue: 0,0:03:22.53,0:03:27.82,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,it ought to be revealing Christ to you\Nmore and more, Dialogue: 0,0:03:27.82,0:03:29.95,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that you might adore Him more and more. Dialogue: 0,0:03:29.95,0:03:31.78,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So many want to learn these doctrines Dialogue: 0,0:03:31.78,0:03:33.18,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,so that they can argue. Dialogue: 0,0:03:33.18,0:03:35.51,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So that they can debate. Dialogue: 0,0:03:35.51,0:03:39.19,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Have you guys ever heard of\NCharles Simeon? Dialogue: 0,0:03:39.19,0:03:45.59,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Simeon was an evangelical Calvinist. Dialogue: 0,0:03:45.59,0:03:51.31,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,He lived back in the 1700's. Dialogue: 0,0:03:51.31,0:03:54.51,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Let me tell you about him. Dialogue: 0,0:03:54.51,0:03:57.86,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,He had little sympathy for\Nuncharitable Calvinists. Dialogue: 0,0:03:57.86,0:04:00.71,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,In his sermon on Romans 9:16 Dialogue: 0,0:04:00.71,0:04:03.34,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Romans 9 Dialogue: 0,0:04:03.34,0:04:07.25,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,He said, "many there are who \Ncannot see these truths." Dialogue: 0,0:04:07.25,0:04:10.08,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The doctrines of God's sovereignty. Dialogue: 0,0:04:10.08,0:04:15.22,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,He's acknowledging, there are \Nmany who can't see them Dialogue: 0,0:04:15.22,0:04:19.06,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the way he does and the way\Nmany in his church did. Dialogue: 0,0:04:19.06,0:04:21.59,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,"...who are yet in a state Dialogue: 0,0:04:21.59,0:04:25.11,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,truly pleasing to God. Dialogue: 0,0:04:25.11,0:04:27.56,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Yea, many, at whose feet Dialogue: 0,0:04:27.56,0:04:31.50,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the best of us may be glad to \Nbe found in heaven." Dialogue: 0,0:04:31.50,0:04:32.69,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And he's right. Dialogue: 0,0:04:32.69,0:04:34.52,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,There are Arminians you would be glad Dialogue: 0,0:04:34.52,0:04:37.68,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,just to be close to in Heaven. Dialogue: 0,0:04:37.68,0:04:40.15,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,He says it's a great evil when these Dialogue: 0,0:04:40.15,0:04:44.42,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,doctrines are made a ground of\Nseparation from one another. Dialogue: 0,0:04:44.42,0:04:47.10,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And basically, I'm getting right \Nat the heart of this. Dialogue: 0,0:04:47.10,0:04:49.22,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,You can tell when your theology Dialogue: 0,0:04:49.22,0:04:51.10,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,is becoming an idol. Dialogue: 0,0:04:51.10,0:04:52.49,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,What's an idol? Dialogue: 0,0:04:52.49,0:04:54.18,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,An idol is something that you give Dialogue: 0,0:04:54.18,0:04:56.43,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,your affection to more than Christ. Dialogue: 0,0:04:56.43,0:04:58.05,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,An idol is something that you Dialogue: 0,0:04:58.05,0:05:00.75,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,give attention to more than Christ. Dialogue: 0,0:05:00.75,0:05:02.74,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,An idol is something that you Dialogue: 0,0:05:02.74,0:05:04.92,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,become consumed with more than Christ. Dialogue: 0,0:05:04.92,0:05:06.52,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,More than the commands of Christ. Dialogue: 0,0:05:06.52,0:05:08.04,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,More than obedience to Christ. Dialogue: 0,0:05:08.04,0:05:09.76,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And one of the \Nchief things that He Dialogue: 0,0:05:09.76,0:05:11.75,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,would have us to do \Nis love one another. Dialogue: 0,0:05:11.75,0:05:13.12,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And folks, if your doctrine Dialogue: 0,0:05:13.12,0:05:15.82,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,makes you all the more a Dialogue: 0,0:05:15.82,0:05:18.35,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,hard person to get along with, Dialogue: 0,0:05:18.35,0:05:20.42,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,if it makes you difficult, Dialogue: 0,0:05:20.42,0:05:23.02,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,if it makes you unbearable, Dialogue: 0,0:05:23.02,0:05:25.56,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,if it makes you ungracious, Dialogue: 0,0:05:25.56,0:05:27.23,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,if it makes you unloving, Dialogue: 0,0:05:27.23,0:05:28.78,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,then you know what? Dialogue: 0,0:05:28.78,0:05:30.25,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,You're doing wrong things. Dialogue: 0,0:05:30.25,0:05:32.11,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,You're creating an idol out of it. Dialogue: 0,0:05:32.11,0:05:33.46,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And I'll say the same thing Dialogue: 0,0:05:33.46,0:05:35.64,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,about Bible translations,\Nabout denominations, Dialogue: 0,0:05:35.64,0:05:38.52,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,if your denomination or \Nbeing a Baptist Dialogue: 0,0:05:38.52,0:05:40.92,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,or clinging to a certain \NBible translation Dialogue: 0,0:05:40.92,0:05:44.28,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,makes you ugly towards other people, Dialogue: 0,0:05:44.28,0:05:46.51,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,makes you bitter towards other people, Dialogue: 0,0:05:46.51,0:05:49.54,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,you've made an idol out of it. Dialogue: 0,0:05:49.54,0:05:50.96,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I'll tell you what, Dialogue: 0,0:05:50.96,0:05:54.42,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Charles Simeon is a guy\Nwe can learn from. Dialogue: 0,0:05:54.42,0:05:59.12,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Here he is, Charles Simeon, Calvinist. Dialogue: 0,0:05:59.12,0:06:04.53,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Comes face to face with \NJohn Wesley, Arminian. Dialogue: 0,0:06:04.53,0:06:10.36,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Can I read to you? Dialogue: 0,0:06:10.36,0:06:11.63,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Here's Simeon, Dialogue: 0,0:06:11.63,0:06:16.06,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,"'Sir, I understand that you \Nare called an Arminian, Dialogue: 0,0:06:16.06,0:06:18.17,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and I have been sometimes\Ncalled a Calvinist, Dialogue: 0,0:06:18.17,0:06:21.28,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and therefore I suppose\Nwe are to draw daggers. Dialogue: 0,0:06:21.28,0:06:25.18,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But, before I consent to begin the combat, Dialogue: 0,0:06:25.18,0:06:27.64,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,with your permission, I'll ask \Nyou a few questions. Dialogue: 0,0:06:27.64,0:06:31.46,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Pray sir, do you feel yourself\Na depraved creature? Dialogue: 0,0:06:31.46,0:06:34.55,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So depraved that you would never\Nhave thought of turning to God Dialogue: 0,0:06:34.55,0:06:37.69,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,if God had not first\Nput it into your heart?' Dialogue: 0,0:06:37.69,0:06:39.52,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Wesley answered him, Dialogue: 0,0:06:39.52,0:06:41.45,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,'Yes, I do indeed.' Dialogue: 0,0:06:41.45,0:06:44.21,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,'And do you utterly despair of\Nrecommending yourself to God Dialogue: 0,0:06:44.21,0:06:46.53,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,by anything you can do? Dialogue: 0,0:06:46.53,0:06:47.96,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And look for salvation solely Dialogue: 0,0:06:47.96,0:06:50.19,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,through the blood and\Nrighteousness of Christ?' Dialogue: 0,0:06:50.19,0:06:52.04,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,'Yes,' he answered. Dialogue: 0,0:06:52.04,0:06:53.92,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,'Solely through Christ.' Dialogue: 0,0:06:53.92,0:06:56.40,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,'But sir,' Simeon says, Dialogue: 0,0:06:56.40,0:07:00.69,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,'Supposing you were first \Nsaved by Christ, Dialogue: 0,0:07:00.69,0:07:03.58,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,are you not somehow or other\Nto save yourself afterwards Dialogue: 0,0:07:03.58,0:07:05.56,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,by your own works?' Dialogue: 0,0:07:05.56,0:07:10.11,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,'Nope. I must be saved by Christ\Nfrom first to last.' Dialogue: 0,0:07:10.11,0:07:14.24,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Simeon says, 'allowing then that\Nyou were first turned by the grace of God, Dialogue: 0,0:07:14.24,0:07:18.67,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,are you not in some way or other\Nto keep yourself by your own power?' Dialogue: 0,0:07:18.67,0:07:19.96,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,'No.' Dialogue: 0,0:07:19.96,0:07:23.85,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,'What then? Are you to be upheld\Nevery hour and every moment Dialogue: 0,0:07:23.85,0:07:26.92,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,by God as much as an\Ninfant in its mother's arms?' Dialogue: 0,0:07:26.92,0:07:30.76,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Wesley, 'Yes. Altogether.' Dialogue: 0,0:07:30.76,0:07:33.27,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,'And is all your hope in the grace\Nand mercy of God Dialogue: 0,0:07:33.27,0:07:36.47,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to preserve you until\NHis heavenly kingdom?' Dialogue: 0,0:07:36.47,0:07:39.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,'Yes. I have no hope\Nbut in Him.' Dialogue: 0,0:07:39.99,0:07:44.13,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,'Then, sir, with your leave,\NI will put up my dagger again. Dialogue: 0,0:07:44.13,0:07:45.88,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,For this is all my Calvinism. Dialogue: 0,0:07:45.88,0:07:48.28,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,This is my election, my \Njustification by faith, Dialogue: 0,0:07:48.28,0:07:50.52,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,my final perseverence. Dialogue: 0,0:07:50.52,0:07:52.44,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It is in substance all that I hold. Dialogue: 0,0:07:52.44,0:07:54.32,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And as I hold it, Dialogue: 0,0:07:54.32,0:07:55.80,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and therefore if you please, Dialogue: 0,0:07:55.80,0:07:59.66,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,instead of searching out terms Dialogue: 0,0:07:59.66,0:08:02.10,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and phrases to be a ground of contention Dialogue: 0,0:08:02.10,0:08:03.66,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,between us, Dialogue: 0,0:08:03.66,0:08:09.20,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,we will cordially unite in \Nthose things wherein we agree.'" Dialogue: 0,0:08:09.20,0:08:10.84,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And may God help us, Dialogue: 0,0:08:10.84,0:08:14.85,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,because when that's not what's true, Dialogue: 0,0:08:14.85,0:08:18.46,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,you have made your theology, Dialogue: 0,0:08:18.46,0:08:22.04,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,you have made your doctrinal position Dialogue: 0,0:08:22.04,0:08:27.16,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,into an idol. Dialogue: 0,0:08:27.16,0:08:30.93,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The doctrines of grace ought to \Nhumble us, Dialogue: 0,0:08:30.93,0:08:33.92,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,not puff us up. Dialogue: 0,0:08:33.92,0:08:35.96,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And if it's puffing you up, Dialogue: 0,0:08:35.96,0:08:37.56,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,you've made it into something Dialogue: 0,0:08:37.56,0:08:40.56,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,God never intended it to be. Dialogue: 0,0:08:40.56,0:08:42.31,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The sovereignty of God ought to Dialogue: 0,0:08:42.31,0:08:43.94,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,make us the humblest people Dialogue: 0,0:08:43.94,0:08:45.46,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,on the face of the earth, Dialogue: 0,0:08:45.46,0:08:47.88,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,if we really understand \Nthese things right. Dialogue: 0,0:08:47.88,0:08:52.94,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,God help us be like\NCharles Simeon. Dialogue: 0,0:08:52.94,0:08:55.62,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Father, we pray that You would, Dialogue: 0,0:08:55.62,0:08:56.97,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,may You work that in us. Dialogue: 0,0:08:56.97,0:08:58.40,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,We pray it for Christ's sake. Dialogue: 0,0:08:58.40,0:09:01.91,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,May You work just such an attitude, Dialogue: 0,0:09:01.91,0:09:03.11,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,just such a heart, Dialogue: 0,0:09:03.11,0:09:04.55,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,just such a graciousness Dialogue: 0,0:09:04.55,0:09:08.50,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,as our brother Charles Simeon possessed, Dialogue: 0,0:09:08.50,0:09:14.29,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and as also our brother John Wesley. Dialogue: 0,0:09:14.29,0:09:16.45,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,We thank You for the truth of Your Word, Dialogue: 0,0:09:16.45,0:09:18.84,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,for the doctrines You've revealed to us. Dialogue: 0,0:09:18.84,0:09:20.36,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,We thank You in Christ's name, Dialogue: 0,0:09:20.36,0:09:22.37,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Amen.