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Dialogue: 0,0:00:07.42,0:00:12.34,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[Tania Bruguera: "The Francis Effect"]
Dialogue: 0,0:00:12.56,0:00:15.16,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[BRUGUERA] Hi guys, how are you doing?
Dialogue: 0,0:00:15.80,0:00:16.80,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Hi, how are you doing?
Dialogue: 0,0:00:21.76,0:00:23.12,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Hi guys, how are you doing?
Dialogue: 0,0:00:23.12,0:00:23.82,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[WOMAN] Fine, you?
Dialogue: 0,0:00:23.82,0:00:25.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[BRUGUERA] Good. I'm...
Dialogue: 0,0:00:25.18,0:00:25.86,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Hi guys.
Dialogue: 0,0:00:26.10,0:00:27.08,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Hi guys, how are you doing? Hi.
Dialogue: 0,0:00:27.08,0:00:27.90,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[WOMAN] Hi.
Dialogue: 0,0:00:27.90,0:00:30.02,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[BRUGUERA] I'm one of the artists in the Latin\NAmerican exhibition.
Dialogue: 0,0:00:30.02,0:00:30.92,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And, one of the...
Dialogue: 0,0:00:30.92,0:00:32.22,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[MAN] Oh, we just came from there!
Dialogue: 0,0:00:32.23,0:00:32.68,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[BRUGUERA] Yeah?
Dialogue: 0,0:00:32.68,0:00:33.89,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And one of the projects I'm doing
Dialogue: 0,0:00:33.89,0:00:35.98,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,is a petition to ask Pope Fran...
Dialogue: 0,0:00:35.98,0:00:37.48,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[WOMAN] But I'm not American.
Dialogue: 0,0:00:37.48,0:00:38.38,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[BRUGUERA] That's okay.
Dialogue: 0,0:00:38.38,0:00:39.08,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Where are you from, Italy?
Dialogue: 0,0:00:39.08,0:00:39.78,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[WOMAN] Si.
Dialogue: 0,0:00:39.78,0:00:41.66,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[BRUGUERA, SPEAKING IN ITALIAN]
Dialogue: 0,0:00:41.67,0:00:45.39,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[BRUGUERA] One of the projects I'm doing is\Na petition I created
Dialogue: 0,0:00:45.39,0:00:47.85,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to ask Pope Francis to give Vatican City citizenship...
Dialogue: 0,0:00:47.85,0:00:48.61,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[MAN] Okay.
Dialogue: 0,0:00:48.61,0:00:50.47,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[BRUGUERA] ...to immigrants nobody wants,
Dialogue: 0,0:00:50.47,0:00:52.76,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,like undocumented and refugees,
Dialogue: 0,0:00:52.76,0:00:55.54,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,no matter what religion they profess,
Dialogue: 0,0:00:55.54,0:00:57.06,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,no matter what country they are from,
Dialogue: 0,0:00:57.06,0:00:58.10,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,no matter what race they are.
Dialogue: 0,0:00:58.86,0:01:00.28,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[WOMAN #1, IN ITALIAN] Sign, sign!
Dialogue: 0,0:01:01.42,0:01:02.40,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Sign, sign!
Dialogue: 0,0:01:02.40,0:01:03.20,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[WOMAN #2, IN ITALIAN] What is it?
Dialogue: 0,0:01:03.20,0:01:07.38,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[WOMAN #1, IN ITALIAN] It is a petition to ask Pope Francis to give undocumented
Dialogue: 0,0:01:07.38,0:01:10.54,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,immigrants citizenship from the Vatican.
Dialogue: 0,0:01:11.06,0:01:12.32,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[WOMAN #2, IN ITALIAN] Oh, great!
Dialogue: 0,0:01:13.34,0:01:16.48,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[BRUGERA] I'm an artist who works with immigration\Nissues.
Dialogue: 0,0:01:16.82,0:01:18.64,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I want to get into people's minds
Dialogue: 0,0:01:18.65,0:01:21.31,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and people's political imaginary.
Dialogue: 0,0:01:21.86,0:01:23.97,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,For me, it's really nice when I talk to people
Dialogue: 0,0:01:23.97,0:01:25.59,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and they kind of get the idea.
Dialogue: 0,0:01:25.59,0:01:28.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,You can see something in the expression.
Dialogue: 0,0:01:28.99,0:01:30.39,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And I think it's interesting because
Dialogue: 0,0:01:30.39,0:01:32.77,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,a lot of people know it's impossible.
Dialogue: 0,0:01:33.56,0:01:36.76,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Like, they say, "Well, this is impossible."
Dialogue: 0,0:01:37.14,0:01:40.50,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But the impossible is only impossible until\Nsomebody makes it possible.
Dialogue: 0,0:01:40.92,0:01:42.34,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[WOMAN] Oh, yeah, I can't do that.
Dialogue: 0,0:01:42.35,0:01:43.76,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[BRUGUERA] Okay, why?
Dialogue: 0,0:01:44.28,0:01:46.52,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[WOMAN] Because my family came here legally,
Dialogue: 0,0:01:46.52,0:01:48.06,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and so does everyone else.
Dialogue: 0,0:01:48.74,0:01:49.46,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[BRUGUERA] But...
Dialogue: 0,0:01:49.72,0:01:50.72,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[WOMAN] I can't...
Dialogue: 0,0:01:53.10,0:01:54.18,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[WOMAN] No, it's okay.
Dialogue: 0,0:01:54.18,0:01:54.70,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[BRUGUERA] No?
Dialogue: 0,0:01:54.70,0:01:55.58,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[BRUGUERA, IN SPANISH] And you are from Argentina?
Dialogue: 0,0:01:55.58,0:01:56.32,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[WOMAN, IN SPANISH] Yes.
Dialogue: 0,0:01:56.70,0:02:00.08,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[BRUGUERA, IN SPANISH] Look at that! You are\Nthe first Argentines that do not sign!
Dialogue: 0,0:02:00.08,0:02:00.64,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Why not?
Dialogue: 0,0:02:01.88,0:02:03.48,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[WOMAN, IN SPANISH] The truth is that
Dialogue: 0,0:02:03.48,0:02:06.72,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I must be very invested in the issue
Dialogue: 0,0:02:06.72,0:02:09.28,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and agree with your project in order to sign.
Dialogue: 0,0:02:09.28,0:02:10.70,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[BRUGUERA, IN SPANISH] Of course.
Dialogue: 0,0:02:10.70,0:02:13.78,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,If you have any questions I can answer them.
Dialogue: 0,0:02:13.78,0:02:14.76,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[MALE STREET PERFORMER SINGING "NEW YORK,\NNEW YORK"]
Dialogue: 0,0:02:14.76,0:02:16.46,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,♪ I'm gonna make a brand new start of it ♪
Dialogue: 0,0:02:16.46,0:02:19.82,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,♪ Here in ol' New York ♪
Dialogue: 0,0:02:19.86,0:02:23.86,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,♪ And if I can make it there ♪
Dialogue: 0,0:02:23.86,0:02:27.78,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,♪ I'll make it anywhere... ♪
Dialogue: 0,0:02:30.04,0:02:32.26,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[BRUGUERA] The Pope has a double function.
Dialogue: 0,0:02:32.26,0:02:33.46,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It is a head of state,
Dialogue: 0,0:02:33.46,0:02:35.88,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but at the same time, it's a head of the church.
Dialogue: 0,0:02:37.12,0:02:39.36,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,"The Francis Effect" is an art piece
Dialogue: 0,0:02:39.36,0:02:44.59,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that wants to talk about the Catholic church,
Dialogue: 0,0:02:44.59,0:02:48.59,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,specifically the Vatican as a political entity.
Dialogue: 0,0:02:49.50,0:02:52.63,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The Vatican is a recognized state
Dialogue: 0,0:02:52.63,0:02:55.34,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that was conceived out of an idea--
Dialogue: 0,0:02:55.34,0:02:57.80,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,in this case, a religious idea.
Dialogue: 0,0:02:57.80,0:03:01.58,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So, what if we have all the places in the\Nworld
Dialogue: 0,0:03:01.59,0:03:05.06,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,in which people gathered together out of an\Nidea
Dialogue: 0,0:03:05.06,0:03:08.96,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and not out of a piece of land that belonged\Nto your ancestors.
Dialogue: 0,0:03:10.20,0:03:11.68,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,That's the Pangea.
Dialogue: 0,0:03:11.68,0:03:12.62,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[WOMAN] This is what the continents used to\Nlook like...
Dialogue: 0,0:03:12.64,0:03:13.68,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[BRUGUERA] Super... Yeah, exactly.
Dialogue: 0,0:03:13.68,0:03:15.14,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[WOMAN] ...before they got split up by earthquakes.
Dialogue: 0,0:03:15.15,0:03:15.97,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[MAN] Okay.
Dialogue: 0,0:03:15.97,0:03:20.76,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[BRUGUERA] And then it was way before countries\Nexisted
Dialogue: 0,0:03:20.76,0:03:22.12,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and borders existed,
Dialogue: 0,0:03:22.12,0:03:25.01,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,so when everybody could go wherever they want,
Dialogue: 0,0:03:25.01,0:03:27.27,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,without visas and papers.
Dialogue: 0,0:03:27.27,0:03:30.64,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The Pope was in Lampedusa,
Dialogue: 0,0:03:30.64,0:03:36.56,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and he made a pretty emotional speech there.
Dialogue: 0,0:03:36.56,0:03:38.18,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Very symbolic.
Dialogue: 0,0:03:38.18,0:03:42.15,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The table had the shape of a boat,
Dialogue: 0,0:03:42.15,0:03:44.91,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,so it was like an art piece, you know?
Dialogue: 0,0:03:44.91,0:03:46.76,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It was like an installation.
Dialogue: 0,0:03:46.76,0:03:48.75,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The Pope has been very outspoken
Dialogue: 0,0:03:48.75,0:03:53.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,about treating immigrants differently.
Dialogue: 0,0:03:53.00,0:03:55.44,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And he came up with the globalization of indifference,
Dialogue: 0,0:03:56.10,0:03:59.26,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,as a concept, that I really liked.
Dialogue: 0,0:03:59.26,0:04:01.48,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I feel, like many other people,
Dialogue: 0,0:04:01.48,0:04:05.82,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that this is a problem that has to be solved\Non a global scale,
Dialogue: 0,0:04:05.82,0:04:08.22,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,with international institutions.
Dialogue: 0,0:04:08.56,0:04:11.56,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Immigrants do not need charity; they need\Npapers.
Dialogue: 0,0:04:11.56,0:04:16.74,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Let's take the Pope's words and ask him to\Nwalk the...
Dialogue: 0,0:04:16.74,0:04:18.82,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Walk the talk? That's how you say it?
Dialogue: 0,0:04:19.54,0:04:22.76,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[BRUGUERA, IN ITALIAN] Are you also a Methodist?
Dialogue: 0,0:04:22.76,0:04:24.66,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Are you an atheist?
Dialogue: 0,0:04:24.66,0:04:27.38,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I am also an atheist. Ok, thank you.
Dialogue: 0,0:04:27.38,0:04:29.10,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Have a nice day.
Dialogue: 0,0:04:29.10,0:04:32.26,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[BRUGUERA] This is very simple performance\Nart.
Dialogue: 0,0:04:32.26,0:04:35.39,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I'm interacting with the audience one to one.
Dialogue: 0,0:04:35.39,0:04:39.64,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I decided that I was going to produce art\Nfor people
Dialogue: 0,0:04:39.64,0:04:41.69,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,who do not think like me.
Dialogue: 0,0:04:41.69,0:04:42.82,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[BRUGUERA] ...anywhere.
Dialogue: 0,0:04:42.82,0:04:46.80,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,You tell me one country, and I'll tell you\Nif there is immigrants there.
Dialogue: 0,0:04:46.80,0:04:47.59,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[WOMAN] Syria?
Dialogue: 0,0:04:47.59,0:04:50.24,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[BRUGUERA] Uh, yes, there are, actually.
Dialogue: 0,0:04:50.24,0:04:52.21,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[BRUGUERA] It's harder, I know.
Dialogue: 0,0:04:52.21,0:04:53.97,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But I think it's more satisfying because
Dialogue: 0,0:04:53.97,0:04:57.14,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the friction that you can create
Dialogue: 0,0:04:57.14,0:04:58.77,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,when you're having these conversations
Dialogue: 0,0:04:58.77,0:05:00.14,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,is more fulfilling for me
Dialogue: 0,0:05:00.14,0:05:03.97,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,than just, like, a little pat on the shoulder.
Dialogue: 0,0:05:04.62,0:05:08.90,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But the signature is kind of the theatrics\Nthat you need
Dialogue: 0,0:05:08.91,0:05:11.54,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,for people who don't believe in art--
Dialogue: 0,0:05:11.54,0:05:14.03,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,people who don't believe in the power of ideas.
Dialogue: 0,0:05:15.18,0:05:20.08,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,At the same, it is a way to mobilize people
Dialogue: 0,0:05:20.09,0:05:22.61,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to think the impossible, you know?
Dialogue: 0,0:05:22.61,0:05:26.19,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Like, what if somebody actually decides to\Nsay,
Dialogue: 0,0:05:26.19,0:05:28.88,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,"Yes, I'll give all the immigrants in the\Nworld,"
Dialogue: 0,0:05:28.88,0:05:32.27,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,"who are undocumented or refugees,"
Dialogue: 0,0:05:32.27,0:05:33.79,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,"their papers."
Dialogue: 0,0:05:33.79,0:05:40.11,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So they can be seen other than illegal or\Na negative way.
Dialogue: 0,0:05:40.11,0:05:45.22,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Even if they don't sign, that they think about\Nit, you know?
Dialogue: 0,0:05:45.22,0:05:47.96,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And then put the little seed in their head.
Dialogue: 0,0:05:47.96,0:05:49.42,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,That's for me what art is.
Dialogue: 0,0:05:49.42,0:05:50.68,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[GIRL, IN SPANISH] They should.
Dialogue: 0,0:05:50.68,0:05:53.56,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[BRUGUERA, IN SPANISH] Yes they should. It's\Nonly fair, right?
Dialogue: 0,0:05:53.88,0:05:57.60,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I can't ask you to sign because you are minors.
Dialogue: 0,0:05:58.10,0:06:01.78,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,You need your parents to authorize you
Dialogue: 0,0:06:02.92,0:06:03.88,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,because you are minors.
Dialogue: 0,0:06:03.88,0:06:06.70,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But yes, at the very least I can give you
Dialogue: 0,0:06:06.70,0:06:11.22,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,our website so that you can get the information.
Dialogue: 0,0:06:11.22,0:06:12.98,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[BOY, IN SPANISH] Mom, come!
Dialogue: 0,0:06:12.98,0:06:16.43,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Dad, come!