WEBVTT 00:00:00.000 --> 00:00:18.580 [Intro Music] 00:00:18.580 --> 00:00:21.690 Engel: Good morning, Linus! Linus: Good morning, Sebastian! 00:00:21.690 --> 00:00:28.260 [Applause] 00:00:28.260 --> 00:00:32.510 I'm glad, you showed up so numerous and fell 00:00:32.510 --> 00:00:36.390 for this baiting title! I want to talk about human 00:00:36.390 --> 00:00:40.210 factors in IT security and chose "hacking brains" for the title. 00:00:40.210 --> 00:00:45.980 Background to this is the fact, that when you talk about "hackers" 00:00:45.980 --> 00:00:49.080 most people think of halfgods in black. 00:00:49.080 --> 00:00:52.399 Nobody really knows what they are doing, but those hackers 00:00:52.399 --> 00:00:56.690 get into my device somehow and i don't know what they want from me 00:00:56.690 --> 00:01:01.180 or how they did it. And the reality out there is 00:01:01.180 --> 00:01:06.229 typically pretty different than most people imagine it. I stand firm 00:01:06.229 --> 00:01:12.969 in the believe that basically all relevant problems in IT security 00:01:12.969 --> 00:01:18.479 have been solved in theory. So we don't have like... we don't miss the knowledge 00:01:18.479 --> 00:01:23.119 on solutions for particular problems, but we still can't make it work. 00:01:23.119 --> 00:01:26.419 Even though we've solved everything theoretically, 00:01:26.419 --> 00:01:31.780 the actual IT security is a desaster. 00:01:31.780 --> 00:01:36.650 And that's most likely, because we build some fascinating IT-mechanisms and 00:01:36.650 --> 00:01:40.901 we test them. As we can see this pole and it encloses some animal now, but 00:01:40.901 --> 00:01:44.011 if we observe it in reality, it looks more like that... 00:01:44.011 --> 00:01:51.221 [audience laughing] [someone singing to "Einzug der Gladiatoren"] 00:01:51.221 --> 00:01:55.309 00:01:55.309 --> 00:01:59.659 That's only a small threat and somehow 00:01:59.659 --> 00:02:04.219 we imagine, that it will be different with bigger threats. 00:02:04.219 --> 00:02:10.560 Let's have a look: We read about Emotet everywhere. 00:02:10.560 --> 00:02:15.160 Hackers compromise PCs, encrypt all the data, demand a lot of ransom, 00:02:15.160 --> 00:02:19.840 and Heise covered it a lot, until they got hit by it themselves. 00:02:19.840 --> 00:02:25.000 [laughter] That means, even those who really should have known better 00:02:25.000 --> 00:02:28.350 are still effected by it and i think that's 00:02:28.350 --> 00:02:31.340 pretty interresting. And if we have a look at what happens in the 00:02:31.340 --> 00:02:35.530 IT security research, even here on this congress, which is why i handed in this 00:02:35.530 --> 00:02:39.370 talk, so the research has to be avant garde. 00:02:39.370 --> 00:02:43.280 It's like big applause and Voodoo, and another exploit there and 00:02:43.280 --> 00:02:48.070 whatever, and remote code execution, while the reality on the other hand 00:02:48.070 --> 00:02:52.600 what actually happens out there, is actually more like this. 00:02:52.600 --> 00:02:58.341 Am I in already? This means, we basically live, 00:02:58.341 --> 00:03:02.000 because we as hackers and nerds find it interessting, we live like in 00:03:02.000 --> 00:03:07.780 this world, while the real crime that happens outside looks more like this! 00:03:07.780 --> 00:03:15.160 sleight of hands. and theses sleight of hands are not addressed or solved! 00:03:15.160 --> 00:03:18.730 And i think that's kinda counterproductive or bad, that we don't care about 00:03:18.730 --> 00:03:22.370 those problemfields, which prevail and are seen everywhere 00:03:22.370 --> 00:03:26.870 even in the "Heise" publishing company, that we don't address them. 00:03:26.870 --> 00:03:31.230 And we haven't made any progress on that front for years. 00:03:31.230 --> 00:03:34.410 I want to talk a bit about easy Scams, a bit about password issues, a little 00:03:34.410 --> 00:03:40.970 about malware. A scam that amused even us in the CCC, is the scam 00:03:40.970 --> 00:03:45.820 by the Chaos-Hacking-Group. They sent E-Mails that said: 00:03:45.820 --> 00:03:49.700 "Yeah i have compromised your system with a trojan and 00:03:49.700 --> 00:03:56.140 we are aware about your adventures on the internet. We know, that you love 00:03:56.140 --> 00:04:00.750 adult sites and know about your sex addiction." 00:04:00.750 --> 00:04:04.710 And try to blackmail those people. Provide a Bitcoin Wallet 00:04:04.710 --> 00:04:09.340 and, yeah, try to blackmail people. Intresstingly 00:04:09.340 --> 00:04:13.360 there are people, that are really concerned. They deny everything! 00:04:13.360 --> 00:04:18.500 Obviously this isn't true at all and there's just no truth to any of it. 00:04:18.500 --> 00:04:22.100 When you're practiced in blackmailing, you know: Don't pay anything until 00:04:22.100 --> 00:04:27.930 proof is provided. When people then try to inform themselfs and 00:04:27.930 --> 00:04:33.330 goolge it, they land here immediatly. 00:04:33.330 --> 00:04:36.830 When you google "Chaos-CC group", then some random websites explain 00:04:36.830 --> 00:04:40.410 that it's a trojan and you should 00:04:40.410 --> 00:04:47.180 download the next malware. 00:04:47.180 --> 00:04:52.470 Basically how to remove this damage. That means people are getting out of the 00:04:52.470 --> 00:04:57.120 frying pan into the fire. "Haha you want to get fooled! There i got another 00:04:57.120 --> 00:05:03.540 one for you. That means the world outside is relativly dangerous 00:05:03.540 --> 00:05:07.220 for our unknowing users. Let's have a look 00:05:07.220 --> 00:05:11.900 how this looks like when done by expierienced folks. The Linux 00:05:11.900 --> 00:05:16.950 Kernelmailinglist is known by a bunch of you. There recently was an E-Mail 00:05:16.950 --> 00:05:22.570 on the 31st of October, so a while ago. They even provided the password, yeah 00:05:22.570 --> 00:05:25.090 that's the next Level Scam: You just write some password leak 00:05:25.090 --> 00:05:28.400 with it and folks will get their pumps racing, because their password 00:05:28.400 --> 00:05:35.350 is written in the Mail and as before they wanted Bitcoins, amongst 00:05:35.350 --> 00:05:38.810 other things, from the Kernel-Devs themselfs. Bitcoin is pretty nice, 00:05:38.810 --> 00:05:42.180 You can have a look in the Blockchain and see how many the devs paid. 00:05:42.180 --> 00:05:47.970 In this wallet are 2.98 Bitcoin which has been about 19000€ 00:05:47.970 --> 00:05:51.410 some days ago. There are still people out there claiming 00:05:51.410 --> 00:05:54.480 you can't make a profit on linux. [laughter] 00:05:54.480 --> 00:06:01.401 [applause] This E-Mail 00:06:01.401 --> 00:06:05.520 was sent to many many more people outside the Kernellist, but i think, you get my 00:06:05.520 --> 00:06:08.500 point, and ask yourself: Why do we even do all that stuff we do 00:06:08.500 --> 00:06:11.120 ,when we could easily get people to send us their money 00:06:11.120 --> 00:06:17.140 with some spam mails. But there's more: transfer money, the classic! The CEO fraud 00:06:17.140 --> 00:06:22.310 Big topic. This is one of the big scenarios, that middle size and big 00:06:22.310 --> 00:06:26.240 size companys are exposed to. You get a mail, where it states 00:06:26.240 --> 00:06:30.340 "Ey, we need to pay those bills! It hast to happen TODAY" 00:06:30.340 --> 00:06:33.940 most of the time it's 00:06:33.940 --> 00:06:37.020 small amounts, that get overlooked. 00:06:37.020 --> 00:06:42.889 but can also be a lot worse. Acutally 00:06:42.889 --> 00:06:49.050 happend pretty often already, with a story like: "Yeah the big deal with the chinease 00:06:49.050 --> 00:06:53.040 is almost through and you mustn't talk to anybody about it, 00:06:53.040 --> 00:06:57.150 but you have to transfer 2 Mils to the Seychelles " 00:06:57.150 --> 00:07:01.260 and then folks do that and those Mails work 00:07:01.260 --> 00:07:05.650 a litte with authority, trust, haste and pressure and guide people 00:07:05.650 --> 00:07:11.949 to do what they shouldn't. 00:07:11.949 --> 00:07:15.250 This might sound funny in the first moment but when you talk to 00:07:15.250 --> 00:07:19.240 someone that fell for it, they are really rattled, because they know 00:07:19.240 --> 00:07:22.470 that it wasn't smart and damaging for the company. 00:07:22.470 --> 00:07:28.200 and that's not that entertaining anymore. :( 00:07:28.200 --> 00:07:34.740 Let's get back to entertaining stuff: The authentication. A thing that many folks 00:07:34.740 --> 00:07:38.680 have problems with, is their password and the problem is 00:07:38.680 --> 00:07:43.340 that they only have one and it lingers in such a collection 00:07:43.340 --> 00:07:48.830 you and everyone has them and 00:07:48.830 --> 00:07:55.410 you can look up you passwords, i.e. 23bonobo42, Tim Pritlove, so on 00:07:55.410 --> 00:08:03.490 The beauty of these lists: even WE who should know better are in those lists. 00:08:03.490 --> 00:08:06.910 When you enter my E-Mail adress in "haveibeenpwned" 00:08:06.910 --> 00:08:11.130 - a website where you can check if you've been inlcuded in a leak 00:08:11.130 --> 00:08:15.990 you can also find ME. So, i will explain how that might have happend. 00:08:15.990 --> 00:08:22.470 The thing that makes me furious about this, is that since there have beeen 00:08:22.470 --> 00:08:26.080 computers we have never really done anything against this password problem. 00:08:26.080 --> 00:08:30.009 We tell people: Ok your password shouldn't be guessable, best case random, 00:08:30.009 --> 00:08:33.950 whithout any system. It should be as long as possible, best case not a word 00:08:33.950 --> 00:08:40.089 And it should be different everywhere. And NOBODY does that. 00:08:40.089 --> 00:08:44.250 Recently i went to the dentist and when you talk with him, he's always like: 00:08:44.250 --> 00:08:47.389 Yeah, floss morning, lunch, evening and everytime and so on 00:08:47.389 --> 00:08:51.390 "yeah, yeah, first you change all your passwords and then we can talk about 00:08:51.390 --> 00:08:55.214 that" [laughter] 00:08:55.214 --> 00:09:02.710 [applause] and yeah i've done that 00:09:02.710 --> 00:09:06.080 00:09:06.080 --> 00:09:09.840 00:09:09.840 --> 00:09:12.550 00:09:12.550 --> 00:09:15.960 00:09:15.960 --> 00:09:20.420 00:09:20.420 --> 00:09:23.800 00:09:23.800 --> 00:09:27.499 00:09:27.499 --> 00:09:32.200 00:09:32.200 --> 00:09:36.360 00:09:36.360 --> 00:09:39.230 00:09:39.230 --> 00:09:42.560 00:09:42.560 --> 00:09:48.720 00:09:48.720 --> 00:09:53.310 00:09:53.310 --> 00:10:02.700 00:10:02.700 --> 00:10:06.760 00:10:06.760 --> 00:10:09.580 00:10:09.580 --> 00:10:14.890 00:10:14.890 --> 00:10:18.600 00:10:18.600 --> 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