0:00:10.800,0:00:12.860 When I was younger, I would do this a lot. 0:00:12.860,0:00:15.850 I would cut faces or pictures out of books 0:00:15.850,0:00:17.560 and I would tape them to sticks-- 0:00:19.140,0:00:21.640 set them up in my room[br]and shine lights at them, 0:00:21.650,0:00:24.100 so that when I turned my own lights off, 0:00:24.100,0:00:26.060 they were reflected in my windows. 0:00:27.920,0:00:30.640 I was trying to get over[br]being scared of this idea 0:00:30.640,0:00:33.000 of this presence in my window. 0:00:46.480,0:00:49.530 I wouldn't say that that actually helped. 0:00:49.530,0:00:50.940 But it was sort of exhilarating. 0:00:50.940,0:00:51.920 It was sort of fun. 0:00:54.540,0:00:59.200 And it was the beginning of a process[br]that maybe is helping me. 0:01:00.320,0:01:04.600 The voyeur in my work is not supposed[br]to be a scary or threatening presence 0:01:04.600,0:01:08.220 in the way that I feel like it's often[br]portrayed in movies and novels. 0:01:12.880,0:01:16.180 It's maybe somebody that feels[br]just outside the equation. 0:01:17.760,0:01:21.160 The voyeur is actually[br]what I am in the process. 0:01:25.900,0:01:31.720 ["Dan Herschlein Looks Inside"] 0:01:33.520,0:01:37.440 [Dan Herschlein, artist] 0:01:37.540,0:01:43.020 I was driving out to Long Island each day[br]to work on these sculptures 0:01:44.300,0:01:48.280 in the den in my parents house on Long Island. 0:01:48.280,0:01:50.060 They gave me half of the room 0:01:50.070,0:01:52.350 and rest of it was everything else[br]that was in the room, 0:01:52.350,0:01:53.340 pushed over. 0:01:56.940,0:02:01.660 The sculptures are very much[br]based on Long Island, 0:02:01.670,0:02:03.360 and my growing up there, 0:02:03.360,0:02:05.740 and my feelings of growing up there-- 0:02:05.740,0:02:11.000 and the specific kind of[br]aloneness that I felt there. 0:02:27.420,0:02:29.720 Part of my fantasy about this place 0:02:29.720,0:02:34.530 was that I was going to be able to[br]stay up all night working in here 0:02:34.530,0:02:36.430 and be alone. 0:02:36.430,0:02:38.600 But then my parents are sleeping 0:02:38.600,0:02:41.320 and I can't even, like,[br]drill into the wood. 0:02:42.840,0:02:46.300 Realizing that this[br]fantasy of solitude 0:02:46.300,0:02:48.460 is just not even real. 0:03:00.000,0:03:01.760 The "Night Pictures," 0:03:01.760,0:03:04.740 they're a sequential set of images 0:03:04.740,0:03:06.640 that are of plaster reliefs on wood. 0:03:09.640,0:03:11.820 They are different from other pieces 0:03:11.820,0:03:15.000 in that they've really accepted[br]the fact that they're on a picture plane. 0:03:26.500,0:03:31.260 It's using a rectangular form[br]to say the same thing that 0:03:31.260,0:03:34.880 I often try to say with[br]a sculpture on the floor. 0:03:35.780,0:03:37.980 What people deem to be creepy-- 0:03:38.480,0:03:40.240 categorize as horror-- 0:03:40.240,0:03:42.900 that's the language[br]or the genre 0:03:42.900,0:03:45.500 I think that I'm working within,[br]is horror. 0:03:45.500,0:03:47.890 The thing that I'm emphasizing[br]within that is 0:03:47.890,0:03:50.950 desire for comfort[br]or need for comfort 0:03:50.950,0:03:53.440 or even the ability of horror to comfort. 0:04:00.960,0:04:03.580 Before I was even[br]making sculptures or anything, 0:04:03.580,0:04:07.140 a close friend of mine died in a fire. 0:04:07.140,0:04:09.690 I built up this leg 0:04:09.690,0:04:14.860 that I made to look as if it was burnt. 0:04:15.220,0:04:16.880 I kept coating it and coating it 0:04:16.880,0:04:21.740 until it became the flesh of a normal leg. 0:04:22.580,0:04:27.000 That was the beginning of me making[br]these more figurative sculptures. 0:04:37.000,0:04:38.520 There's definitely fear involved. 0:04:38.520,0:04:40.889 There's a pain to that. 0:04:40.889,0:04:46.680 But it's more helpful than[br]just sitting with my own thoughts. 0:04:46.680,0:04:49.320 I think it was important to do[br]something with my hands. 0:04:52.260,0:04:56.660 There's certain body parts[br]in each sculpture that I'll cast. 0:04:57.700,0:04:59.580 Cast my hands, my feet, 0:04:59.580,0:05:01.540 my knees, my nipples. 0:05:06.940,0:05:12.260 Those are the things that give[br]more a sense of reality to these things. 0:05:12.260,0:05:16.480 It lets everything else fade[br]and break down at points. 0:05:26.380,0:05:32.080 The big mission of mine[br]is reevaluating maleness and masculinity. 0:05:32.080,0:05:36.160 The ability of a man to bury their own emotions 0:05:36.169,0:05:38.270 to a point where they[br]can't even find them again 0:05:38.270,0:05:39.800 is unparalleled. 0:05:42.580,0:05:47.180 The headlessness is because of[br]the head just being totally inverted. 0:05:47.200,0:05:49.640 It's absolutely just down inside the body. 0:05:51.480,0:05:54.719 It feels really emasculating[br]in this really great way to me. 0:05:58.520,0:06:01.000 It's a kind of self reflection. 0:06:34.280,0:06:36.759 I am very anxious. 0:06:36.760,0:06:37.860 I am scared. 0:06:39.980,0:06:41.000 I am sad. 0:06:41.200,0:06:44.020 But here are these moments where, 0:06:44.020,0:06:47.580 if I can look at that at face value-- 0:06:48.640,0:06:49.980 see these things-- 0:06:53.620,0:06:56.820 maybe it's fine to be scared or sad 0:06:56.820,0:06:58.140 or anxious. 0:06:58.580,0:07:00.820 It's not such a threat or something. 0:07:00.820,0:07:02.600 It's just normal.