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Translation & Subtitles: thoseguiltyeyes | scandal-heaven.com

Hello, RINA here.

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For today's video, I received a DM on Instagram that piqued my interest a bit,

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So I will talking a little about that.

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First, I'll read the DM.

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"Hello! I'm a 21-year-old woman who's been a SCANDAL fan since middle school.

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I got your zine in the mail!

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I don't know if this DM will reach you,

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But I am sending this in hopes that my feelings can be of some help to you, RINA-chan.

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I attend a women's university

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And am writing a graduation thesis with the theme,

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"Gender from the viewpoint of an all-girl band."

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I originally wasn't really interested in gender and the like,

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And I'm attending a women's university because I had a connection there.

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Me being very interested in gender-related issues is in large due to the various media you continue to send out.

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Thank you very much for creating my four-year topic.

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The message your zine gives is not that men and women are equal (I hear a lot of this in my lectures).

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Your desire to proudly live your life as a woman is conveyed,

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And it feels like the discomfort I've been feeling while attending lectures has disappeared.

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I will be incorporating these feelings and assertions into my paper.

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I'm curious as how you, RINA-chan, became interested in gender-related issues,

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So I'd be happy if you talked about that on YouTube or the like.

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I also feel that a lot of gender-related info comes from you,

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But I'd like to hear if the members talk to each other about things like this,

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Or if you put those talks into your music.

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Please tell us about your gender-related stories.

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Also, I'd like for it to reach many women.

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(I'm really looking forward to the DAISY Project)

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That's the DM I got.

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Thank you so much.

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This was mentioned,

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But I made a zine with the theme of "feminism" and "how women work."

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It's already sold out,

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And I thank everyone who picked up a copy.

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That made me happy.

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I got a lot of reactions,

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And, um...

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Getting back on topic,

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I became interested in gender-related issues due to two big reasons.

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First, the home environment in which I grew up,

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And what I felt as I was watching my mom navigate it all.

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Also, what I felt as I've been in the band.

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As we delved further into things,

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I think I became more interested in gender-related stuff.

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During the time I've been in an all-girl band,

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Um...

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I tried recalling if I had thought about gender and feminism,

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And I will give a few simple examples.

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This is the first one.

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I think this happened about five to six years ago.

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When being interviewed,

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This was said to us as a compliment:

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"You're not an 'all-girl band'—you're a 'band' band."

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I thought there was some kind of catch to it,

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Or rather, I was kind of like, "What?"

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We're a band to begin with,

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And I don't think that all-girl bands are below ones with guys in them,

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But it's like they were saying we ranked up.

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I thought, "Huh?"

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I didn't really think too much about it then.

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Of course it wasn't something I got angry with,

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But it was something that stuck with me.

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Now for the second example.

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A while ago there were very few all-girl bands compared to now,

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And even when we'd appear at events or festivals,

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We were constantly the only all-girl band, or the only female artist there.

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When there are 3-4 or more performers,

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Everyone's like, "Let's all make this event exciting!"

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So a lot of the time the bands mention each other during their MCs.

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When that happens and we're being talked about,

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"SCANDAL's dressing room smelled great,"

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"When there are four girls, it really is great that there's so much beauty,"

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Are some of the things that are often said.

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We know that they don't mean any offense,

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But how can I put it...

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The way things like "It gets brighter when SCANDAL's here,"

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And "When there are four girls, it really is great that there's so much beauty," are said,

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They're similar but also a little different.

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How can I put it?

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For those events and festivals,

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We go out on stage with the same feelings as the other bands.

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We're not just eye candy.

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There was a bit of a catch to those things [said about us].

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Another thing that happens a lot

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Occurs during taped events or live events for TV.

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When things are being transitioned and the MC comes out,

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They talk with the artist, and then the next performance happens.

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That happens often.

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During a time when we finished our set and had the talk portion afterwards,

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"You were the only female artist,

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But you were energetic enough to not lose out to guy bands,"

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Is how the female MC summed it up

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Unlike the previous story,

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I didn't get an unpleasant feeling from it,

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But music is not about battling to begin with.

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We're not doing this in order to win against someone.

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Each band has their own appeal,

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So I thought that that comparison wasn't something to be talking about in the first place.

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I just gave three examples.

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I've felt all kinds of things as we've continued to be an all-girl band.

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I've been playing in this band since I was a middle schooler,

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And as I've grown older,

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I've gained all sorts of knowledge and experience.

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I started to think that the feeling of strangeness I've had

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Has a lot to do with feminism.

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Knowing that what I've felt has a proper name to it,

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And knowing that there are many people worldwide turning that into actions,

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It feels like this fuzziness has cleared up a bit,

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And my heart feels a little lighter.

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So,

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I thought it was very important to send forth what I've realized.

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Information can lighten people's hearts.

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The same is true of the stories I told earlier.

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No one probably meant anything bad.

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I truly understand that.

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It's better to update old ways of thinking as you live your ordinary daily lives,

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And I feel that this underlying thing is becoming more and more obsolete in this era.

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It'd be great if those who realize that will pass things on,

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And more and more people will be like, "Ah, that's right," and change themselves.

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I think it's important to raise issues in a way that everyone can enjoy.

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It's not that I've been feeling uncomfortable or angry about the causes.

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I just hope that the causes can be correctly identified,

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And that women lift up other women.

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For men,

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I think there's a pressure that comes from the idea that men always have to be masculine and need to look good,

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And also that they should be a man that supports their spouse financially,

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For which they need to have a higher educational background.

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In that sense, it can be hard to live your life because you're a man.

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However, those "rules" don't actually exist,

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So I really wish that we could create a society where everyone can live comfortably

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By realizing that's something we cannot understand unless we think about it rationally.

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This was also in the DM I received,

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And my way of thinking,

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It's not about living your life whether you're a man or woman, or if you're LGBTQ.

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It'd be great if we can have pride in ourselves

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While making sure to respect genders

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And ways of thinking that fit each of us well.

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I don't think it's that simple for everyone,

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But I think it's awesome when you find a way of living that suits you.

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So,

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I want you to value each style.

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Lastly, about the "Do the members talk about this with each other?" question,

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We do usually do so.

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Every Wednesday the four of us always go to the studio,

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And afterwards we and our staff have a meeting.

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We do this every week and talk about things then too.

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Of course our opinions can differ,

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And each of us have our own thoughts about gender.

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There also are differences in passion for it.

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It's really all over the place,

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But I think that's fine.

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I value being able to regularly talk about things like that.

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So, what I'm talking about right now is how I personally think and communicate.

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I hope you can regard it in that way.

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I've been getting a lot of messages like this,

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And I feel that what I've been projecting little by little

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Is gradually starting to be conveyed.

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That makes me very happy.

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I want everyone to live a comfortable life.

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I want to say, "I'm good with this."