[Script Info] Title: [Events] Format: Layer, Start, End, Style, Name, MarginL, MarginR, MarginV, Effect, Text Dialogue: 0,0:00:04.36,0:00:08.36,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I grew up in an Irish \NCatholic family, very nominal, Dialogue: 0,0:00:08.36,0:00:16.54,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I probably went to the Catholic church Dialogue: 0,0:00:16.54,0:00:21.94,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,five times, maybe, in my whole life, Dialogue: 0,0:00:21.94,0:00:24.31,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but if you had asked me, Dialogue: 0,0:00:24.31,0:00:28.23,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I carried a cross around \Nwherever I went that said Dialogue: 0,0:00:28.23,0:00:31.38,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,"I'm a Catholic, call a priest." Dialogue: 0,0:00:31.38,0:00:35.45,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It was a silver cross that my \Ngrandfather had given to me. Dialogue: 0,0:00:35.45,0:00:38.56,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And I'm sure that when I \Nwas out here I had it wherever... Dialogue: 0,0:00:38.56,0:00:41.54,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I actually rode motorcycles \Nout here from Michigan. Dialogue: 0,0:00:41.54,0:00:44.08,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I worked up in the \Nmountains near Kremmling. Dialogue: 0,0:00:44.08,0:00:47.08,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,You guys probably all \Nknow where that is. Dialogue: 0,0:00:47.08,0:00:52.90,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I planted trees up there in \Nareas that had been forested. Dialogue: 0,0:00:52.90,0:00:55.44,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Part of the time, actually \Nwhen a buddy and I Dialogue: 0,0:00:55.44,0:00:58.26,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,were done working up there, Dialogue: 0,0:00:58.26,0:01:04.75,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,we came and we stayed \Nhere in Denver for awhile. Dialogue: 0,0:01:04.75,0:01:08.47,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I guess I bring that up, that was in 1986, Dialogue: 0,0:01:08.47,0:01:11.47,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that was pretty typical... Dialogue: 0,0:01:11.47,0:01:12.60,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I turned 21 that year. Dialogue: 0,0:01:12.60,0:01:15.60,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,That was pretty typical of my life. Dialogue: 0,0:01:15.60,0:01:18.44,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Basically, the way I tell people, Dialogue: 0,0:01:18.44,0:01:22.07,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I lived the beer commercial kind of life. Dialogue: 0,0:01:22.07,0:01:25.22,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Basically, I lived to have fun, Dialogue: 0,0:01:25.22,0:01:28.35,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I lived for pleasure. Dialogue: 0,0:01:28.35,0:01:29.96,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So I went down every road, Dialogue: 0,0:01:29.96,0:01:38.85,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,every avenue, every path that led to that. Dialogue: 0,0:01:38.85,0:01:45.60,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,What happened was in high school, Dialogue: 0,0:01:45.60,0:01:52.77,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I drank pretty heavily, Dialogue: 0,0:01:52.77,0:01:55.28,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,drugs were pretty regular, Dialogue: 0,0:01:55.28,0:01:57.11,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and I basically told myself, you know what? Dialogue: 0,0:01:57.11,0:01:59.87,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,When I get into college, I'm going to quit this. Dialogue: 0,0:01:59.87,0:02:02.20,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And then I got into college \Nand it only got worse. Dialogue: 0,0:02:02.20,0:02:03.80,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And then I told myself, Dialogue: 0,0:02:03.80,0:02:07.06,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,when I get out of college \NI'm going to quit this. Dialogue: 0,0:02:07.06,0:02:11.26,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I went to college and I got a \Nmechanical engineering degree, Dialogue: 0,0:02:11.26,0:02:15.48,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and once I got out it \Nall of a sudden hit me, Dialogue: 0,0:02:15.48,0:02:18.31,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I'm never going to stop. Dialogue: 0,0:02:18.31,0:02:25.82,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And I was only getting worse and worse. Dialogue: 0,0:02:25.82,0:02:31.13,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I thought I had everything in control. Dialogue: 0,0:02:31.13,0:02:33.59,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I thought everything was \Njust where I wanted it. Dialogue: 0,0:02:33.59,0:02:35.28,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I thought, you know, here I am. Dialogue: 0,0:02:35.28,0:02:36.28,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I can get an engineering degree. Dialogue: 0,0:02:36.28,0:02:38.28,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I can get an engineering job, Dialogue: 0,0:02:38.28,0:02:40.44,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and I can party at the same time. Dialogue: 0,0:02:40.44,0:02:43.57,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And I can make money, Dialogue: 0,0:02:43.57,0:02:47.37,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I've got life just where I want it. Dialogue: 0,0:02:47.37,0:02:51.08,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And then the year 1990 came Dialogue: 0,0:02:51.08,0:02:54.84,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and the Lord just \Nstarted to knock me down, Dialogue: 0,0:02:54.84,0:02:58.76,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,over and over and over and over. Dialogue: 0,0:02:58.76,0:03:02.08,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And I didn't know what \Nwas happening to me. Dialogue: 0,0:03:02.08,0:03:08.60,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I thought I was losing \Nmy mind - I don't know. Dialogue: 0,0:03:08.60,0:03:14.06,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,What happened was, Dialogue: 0,0:03:14.06,0:03:19.70,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I remember being at \Nwork and playing softball... Dialogue: 0,0:03:19.70,0:03:21.17,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,One of the things that happened Dialogue: 0,0:03:21.17,0:03:23.54,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,in a myriad of other things that happened, Dialogue: 0,0:03:23.54,0:03:28.42,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I was playing softball. \NI had a collision at second base. Dialogue: 0,0:03:28.42,0:03:32.49,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,My leg was bent backwards. Dialogue: 0,0:03:32.49,0:03:36.31,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,My knee hyper-extended, Dialogue: 0,0:03:36.31,0:03:38.58,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and I'm limping around at work. Dialogue: 0,0:03:38.58,0:03:44.05,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I'd been doing so much \Ncrystal meth and coke Dialogue: 0,0:03:44.05,0:03:48.60,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that literally I'd come to \Nwork to work as an engineer, Dialogue: 0,0:03:48.60,0:03:52.14,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I would sit in the stalls in the bathroom Dialogue: 0,0:03:52.14,0:03:55.53,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,with my head against the \Nwall because it hurt so bad Dialogue: 0,0:03:55.53,0:03:58.02,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,from being hungover from these drugs. Dialogue: 0,0:03:58.02,0:03:59.94,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Typically, it was later in the week Dialogue: 0,0:03:59.94,0:04:02.94,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,before I could even \Nstart to perform my job. Dialogue: 0,0:04:02.94,0:04:05.66,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It just happened at that \Ntime that our company Dialogue: 0,0:04:05.66,0:04:08.66,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,had been bought out by a Japanese company, Dialogue: 0,0:04:08.66,0:04:10.96,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and Japanese engineers were over there. Dialogue: 0,0:04:10.96,0:04:13.29,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And I was paired up with one of these guys, Dialogue: 0,0:04:13.29,0:04:15.95,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,who was kind of a senior engineer. Dialogue: 0,0:04:15.95,0:04:19.50,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And he liked to drink and \Nhe liked to golf, which I did too, Dialogue: 0,0:04:19.50,0:04:21.35,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,so he and I became pretty good friends. Dialogue: 0,0:04:21.35,0:04:24.35,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And I think he kind of covered for me. Dialogue: 0,0:04:24.35,0:04:26.94,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And so I was able to \Nhave that kind of poor Dialogue: 0,0:04:26.94,0:04:30.81,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,performance and not really get discovered. Dialogue: 0,0:04:30.81,0:04:33.72,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But then during this \Ntime, I'm limping around. Dialogue: 0,0:04:33.72,0:04:36.14,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I have a bad leg now. Dialogue: 0,0:04:36.14,0:04:39.70,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I got hauled into my \Nboss's office, the chief engineer, Dialogue: 0,0:04:39.70,0:04:42.16,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and he wanted to see my work, Dialogue: 0,0:04:42.16,0:04:43.16,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and he wanted to bring in Dialogue: 0,0:04:43.16,0:04:45.48,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the various projects that \NI had been working on, Dialogue: 0,0:04:45.48,0:04:51.53,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and it was terrible - it was only \Nthe Lord that I didn't lose my job. Dialogue: 0,0:04:51.53,0:04:54.39,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And it was eventually that job Dialogue: 0,0:04:54.39,0:04:57.39,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that was going to take me to San Antonio. Dialogue: 0,0:04:57.39,0:05:02.05,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It was the Lord that made, \Neven getting the job there, Dialogue: 0,0:05:02.05,0:05:05.05,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,when I first interviewed for that place, Dialogue: 0,0:05:05.05,0:05:07.36,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I had been smoking dope Dialogue: 0,0:05:07.36,0:05:10.36,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and I had been snorting coke, Dialogue: 0,0:05:10.36,0:05:13.36,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and I went in for an interview, Dialogue: 0,0:05:13.36,0:05:17.10,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and they wanted me to go to a physical Dialogue: 0,0:05:17.10,0:05:21.52,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and be drug tested the next day. Dialogue: 0,0:05:21.52,0:05:25.28,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I went to the interview on a \NThursday, the next day was Friday, Dialogue: 0,0:05:25.28,0:05:28.28,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and when he asked me \Nto go take the drug test, Dialogue: 0,0:05:28.28,0:05:32.08,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I don't know why I wasn't \Nthinking that that would happen. Dialogue: 0,0:05:32.08,0:05:34.11,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I was just stupid. Dialogue: 0,0:05:34.11,0:05:39.13,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But I said to him, "Oh, could \NI go do that on Monday?" Dialogue: 0,0:05:39.13,0:05:42.13,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Because I wanted to \Ntry to purge my system. Dialogue: 0,0:05:42.13,0:05:49.42,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I knew that if I went \Nin the next day I was dust. Dialogue: 0,0:05:49.42,0:05:52.54,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,No, he insisted that \NI take it the next day. Dialogue: 0,0:05:52.54,0:05:54.64,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And I rode my motorcycle \Nup there the next day, Dialogue: 0,0:05:54.64,0:05:57.41,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and the place had burned down overnight Dialogue: 0,0:05:57.41,0:06:00.41,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and there was yellow \Ntape all the way around it, Dialogue: 0,0:06:00.41,0:06:02.51,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and so I went home - Dialogue: 0,0:06:02.51,0:06:07.36,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and even there the Lord \Ngot me into that position, Dialogue: 0,0:06:07.36,0:06:09.49,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,preserved me in that position, Dialogue: 0,0:06:09.49,0:06:14.04,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,despite me in all my sin, because eventually, Dialogue: 0,0:06:14.04,0:06:16.52,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,after the Lord saved me, Dialogue: 0,0:06:16.52,0:06:20.42,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and I really began then \Nto excel as an engineer, Dialogue: 0,0:06:20.42,0:06:22.12,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the firm I worked for, Dialogue: 0,0:06:22.12,0:06:24.83,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,we got the Alamo Dome \Nproject down in San Antonio, Dialogue: 0,0:06:24.83,0:06:26.36,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,which led me down there, Dialogue: 0,0:06:26.36,0:06:29.36,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and to meet Sam's \Ngood friend, John Sytsma. Dialogue: 0,0:06:29.36,0:06:33.08,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,You've had him here before? Dialogue: 0,0:06:33.08,0:06:35.94,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So I met John later on. Dialogue: 0,0:06:35.94,0:06:38.94,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But here, I got called \Ninto my boss's office, Dialogue: 0,0:06:38.94,0:06:42.68,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and I got reprimanded \Nfor nigh unto the whole day. Dialogue: 0,0:06:42.68,0:06:45.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,You know, I'm about losing my job, Dialogue: 0,0:06:45.00,0:06:46.38,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,my mom and my dad were both Dialogue: 0,0:06:46.38,0:06:49.58,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,diagnosed with cancer in the same week, Dialogue: 0,0:06:49.58,0:06:51.79,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I have this collision playing softball... Dialogue: 0,0:06:51.79,0:06:53.85,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,it's like my life is falling apart. Dialogue: 0,0:06:53.85,0:06:57.41,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Before, where I felt like \NI always had everything Dialogue: 0,0:06:57.41,0:07:01.02,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,perfectly in control and \Nif I wanted it, it happened, Dialogue: 0,0:07:01.02,0:07:04.59,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,now it's like everything's falling apart. Dialogue: 0,0:07:04.59,0:07:08.93,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Well, and I limp out to the \Nbreak room out in the plant, Dialogue: 0,0:07:08.93,0:07:11.53,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and I walk in and there's \Ntwo guys sitting there, Dialogue: 0,0:07:11.53,0:07:15.100,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and one of them has a book \Nand he hides it under the table. Dialogue: 0,0:07:15.100,0:07:20.16,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And my life is so messed up, I didn't care. Dialogue: 0,0:07:20.16,0:07:23.25,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I went over and I started putting \Nsome coins into the machine, Dialogue: 0,0:07:23.25,0:07:26.25,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and he starts asking me about religion, Dialogue: 0,0:07:26.25,0:07:29.60,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and I said, "I'm Catholic." Dialogue: 0,0:07:29.60,0:07:33.87,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And he said, "did you ever think \Nthat the Pope is the antichrist?" Dialogue: 0,0:07:33.87,0:07:36.30,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,(laughter) Dialogue: 0,0:07:36.30,0:07:40.92,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I said, "whatever, I just don't care." Dialogue: 0,0:07:40.92,0:07:44.38,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So then he actually brought me some tracts Dialogue: 0,0:07:44.38,0:07:53.84,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,on the inquisition. And I read them. Dialogue: 0,0:07:53.84,0:07:56.06,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,He came to my desk and said, Dialogue: 0,0:07:56.06,0:07:57.96,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,"did you read those tracts I gave you?" Dialogue: 0,0:07:57.96,0:08:01.27,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And I said, "yeah, I did." So then \Nhe drops a book on my desk: Dialogue: 0,0:08:01.27,0:08:03.59,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,"The Gospel According to Jesus" Dialogue: 0,0:08:03.59,0:08:07.44,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Anybody know that book? By John MacArthur? Dialogue: 0,0:08:07.44,0:08:09.32,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,"The Gospel According to Jesus" Dialogue: 0,0:08:09.32,0:08:12.81,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So here I am, I'm going \Nhome from work each night, Dialogue: 0,0:08:12.81,0:08:14.94,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I'm stopping by the beer store, Dialogue: 0,0:08:14.94,0:08:17.06,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I'm picking up two 40-ouncers, Dialogue: 0,0:08:17.06,0:08:21.28,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I'm going to my apartment, and Dialogue: 0,0:08:21.28,0:08:23.96,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,with a beer in one hand Dialogue: 0,0:08:23.96,0:08:26.96,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and that book in the other hand, Dialogue: 0,0:08:26.96,0:08:28.100,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I'm trying to drink myself into oblivion, Dialogue: 0,0:08:28.100,0:08:31.43,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but I could not put that book down. Dialogue: 0,0:08:31.43,0:08:35.32,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And literally, one night \Nas I'm reading that book, Dialogue: 0,0:08:35.32,0:08:39.47,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,it was like a freight train \Nof conviction rolled over me. Dialogue: 0,0:08:39.47,0:08:44.27,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The Spirit of God... \NI came under such conviction, Dialogue: 0,0:08:44.27,0:08:48.63,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,for the first time, you know \Nhow it says there in John 16, Dialogue: 0,0:08:48.63,0:08:52.26,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The Spirit convicts of \Nsin and righteousness Dialogue: 0,0:08:52.26,0:08:58.50,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and judgment, and I saw my sin, Dialogue: 0,0:08:58.50,0:09:00.91,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I saw I had no righteousness, Dialogue: 0,0:09:00.91,0:09:04.62,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and I saw I deserved God's judgment. Dialogue: 0,0:09:04.62,0:09:08.32,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But I'll tell you this, that \Nbook is all about repentance, Dialogue: 0,0:09:08.32,0:09:11.12,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that book is about the \Nnature of true salvation, Dialogue: 0,0:09:11.12,0:09:16.97,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,it's about following Christ \Nand that it costs you everything. Dialogue: 0,0:09:16.97,0:09:19.95,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,That text, "what will it profit a man Dialogue: 0,0:09:19.95,0:09:22.47,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,if he gains the whole \Nworld and loses his soul," Dialogue: 0,0:09:22.47,0:09:25.45,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I came under conviction, \Nand somebody might have thought, Dialogue: 0,0:09:25.45,0:09:27.44,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,well I'd be saved right away, Dialogue: 0,0:09:27.44,0:09:31.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but it didn't happen that way. Dialogue: 0,0:09:31.99,0:09:38.91,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I had about 30 friends and we were tight. Dialogue: 0,0:09:38.91,0:09:41.66,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,We did everything together. Dialogue: 0,0:09:41.66,0:09:44.40,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,We partied together, \Nwe played sports together, Dialogue: 0,0:09:44.40,0:09:47.62,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,we hunted together, we gambled together. Dialogue: 0,0:09:47.62,0:09:52.84,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I mean, I was tight with these guys. Dialogue: 0,0:09:52.84,0:09:57.35,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And basically my reputation \Nwas as a crazy man, Dialogue: 0,0:09:57.35,0:10:03.07,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,crazy on a motorcycle, just crazy in life. Dialogue: 0,0:10:03.07,0:10:05.20,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And I came under this conviction, Dialogue: 0,0:10:05.20,0:10:06.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but at the same time it's like the devil Dialogue: 0,0:10:06.99,0:10:08.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,whispering in this one ear, Dialogue: 0,0:10:08.99,0:10:10.60,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,"this is who you are, \Nthis is what you're life Dialogue: 0,0:10:10.60,0:10:12.48,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,is all about, you can't give that up." Dialogue: 0,0:10:12.48,0:10:15.54,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Because I knew, not only did I know that Dialogue: 0,0:10:15.54,0:10:18.86,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,text there that said \Nwhat does it profit a man, Dialogue: 0,0:10:18.86,0:10:23.57,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I knew that text there because \NMacArthur was bring it out in his book: Dialogue: 0,0:10:23.57,0:10:25.70,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,unless you forsake all that you have, Dialogue: 0,0:10:25.70,0:10:28.16,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,you cannot be My disciple. Dialogue: 0,0:10:28.16,0:10:31.46,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,You guys know where that's \Nfound? It comes out of Luke 14:33. Dialogue: 0,0:10:31.46,0:10:34.84,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It's like in one ear I'm hearing those: Dialogue: 0,0:10:34.84,0:10:36.78,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,what does it profit a man? Dialogue: 0,0:10:36.78,0:10:38.94,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Unless you forsake all that you have... Dialogue: 0,0:10:38.94,0:10:42.48,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But over here, you can't give up this lifestyle, Dialogue: 0,0:10:42.48,0:10:45.48,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,you can't give this up, \Nthis is who you are. Dialogue: 0,0:10:45.48,0:10:48.62,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And for the better part of three months, Dialogue: 0,0:10:48.62,0:10:52.48,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,it was in that misery. Dialogue: 0,0:10:52.48,0:10:55.48,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I kept trying to drink \Nmyself into oblivion, Dialogue: 0,0:10:55.48,0:10:58.47,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but I could not put that book down. Dialogue: 0,0:10:58.47,0:11:02.59,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And eventually, seeing that \NMacArthur had written the book, Dialogue: 0,0:11:02.59,0:11:05.59,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I got on MacArthur's tape lending library, Dialogue: 0,0:11:05.59,0:11:08.46,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and so now I'm listening \Nto his tapes, listening to his tapes. Dialogue: 0,0:11:08.46,0:11:10.75,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I bought myself a Bible \Nand I'm reading that. Dialogue: 0,0:11:10.75,0:11:13.66,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I went through the \NNew Testament in about two weeks. Dialogue: 0,0:11:13.66,0:11:16.58,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And I'll tell you, the New Testament, Dialogue: 0,0:11:16.58,0:11:18.77,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I saw judgment and condemnation Dialogue: 0,0:11:18.77,0:11:27.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,on every single page of that New Testament... Dialogue: 0,0:11:27.00,0:11:32.09,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So there was that wrestling. Dialogue: 0,0:11:32.09,0:11:38.12,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I remember I went down \Nto the Indianapolis 500 Dialogue: 0,0:11:38.12,0:11:44.56,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and I got drunk with my friends, Dialogue: 0,0:11:44.56,0:11:48.22,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and I'm coming out of that thing, Dialogue: 0,0:11:48.22,0:11:50.23,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and there's like a 100,000 people Dialogue: 0,0:11:50.23,0:11:53.88,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,walking across this muddy \Nfield to get out of that place, Dialogue: 0,0:11:53.88,0:11:58.62,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and there in the mud, there's a tract. Dialogue: 0,0:11:58.62,0:12:01.15,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And, you know, my friends, Dialogue: 0,0:12:01.15,0:12:04.15,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,they all went to the bar that night, Dialogue: 0,0:12:04.15,0:12:05.97,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and I just wandered the streets. Dialogue: 0,0:12:05.97,0:12:07.92,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I didn't know what was happening to me. Dialogue: 0,0:12:07.92,0:12:10.11,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I found myself kind of praying, Dialogue: 0,0:12:10.11,0:12:12.61,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but then I didn't even \Nknow who I was praying to, Dialogue: 0,0:12:12.61,0:12:16.42,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I didn't know what was happening to me. Dialogue: 0,0:12:16.42,0:12:19.36,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,That was on Memorial Day weekend. Dialogue: 0,0:12:19.36,0:12:24.33,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,By the Fourth of July, I went \Nwith my buddies to the beach, Dialogue: 0,0:12:24.33,0:12:25.89,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and again started drinking. Dialogue: 0,0:12:25.89,0:12:29.63,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The emptiness inside was so deep. Dialogue: 0,0:12:29.63,0:12:34.19,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It was just so deep. Dialogue: 0,0:12:34.19,0:12:37.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I was at the end. Dialogue: 0,0:12:37.99,0:12:41.09,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I drove home about 3 in the afternoon. Dialogue: 0,0:12:41.09,0:12:43.87,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,My friends all stayed there. Dialogue: 0,0:12:43.87,0:12:47.80,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Forty miles back to \NKalamazoo to my apartment, Dialogue: 0,0:12:47.80,0:12:52.12,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and I went in and I just went \Nover and turned over the stereo. Dialogue: 0,0:12:52.12,0:12:56.03,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,A MacArthur message on Isaiah 6 Dialogue: 0,0:12:56.03,0:13:00.20,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,on the holiness of God was playing, Dialogue: 0,0:13:00.20,0:13:03.78,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and I just went and I fell on the floor. Dialogue: 0,0:13:03.78,0:13:07.24,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Somewhere in the middle of that night, Dialogue: 0,0:13:07.24,0:13:13.88,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I woke up and I was just \Ntrembling from head to foot, Dialogue: 0,0:13:13.88,0:13:16.70,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and I don't know if it was even audible Dialogue: 0,0:13:16.70,0:13:18.78,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,or something I just said inside, Dialogue: 0,0:13:18.78,0:13:20.78,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but it was basically three words. Dialogue: 0,0:13:20.78,0:13:23.12,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I was at the end. Dialogue: 0,0:13:23.12,0:13:26.12,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And it was just, "Lord, help me." Dialogue: 0,0:13:26.12,0:13:28.82,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And if you guys sing, "And Can it Be?" Dialogue: 0,0:13:28.82,0:13:33.01,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Do you guys sing that? Wesley's song? Dialogue: 0,0:13:33.01,0:13:39.94,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,(singing) "And can it be..." Dialogue: 0,0:13:39.94,0:13:42.90,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Anyway, there's a stanza \Nin there that says that Dialogue: 0,0:13:42.90,0:13:46.47,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the chains fell off, \Nthe dungeon filled with light Dialogue: 0,0:13:46.47,0:13:49.91,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I don't know if I physically saw light Dialogue: 0,0:13:49.91,0:13:53.73,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,or if it was just inside, Dialogue: 0,0:13:53.73,0:13:58.33,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but when I cried to the Lord, Dialogue: 0,0:13:58.33,0:14:02.90,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,right then, something happened to me. Dialogue: 0,0:14:02.90,0:14:05.70,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I mean, I was born again, \Nthat's what happened. Dialogue: 0,0:14:05.70,0:14:12.22,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Suddenly, now, as the days \Nwent forth from there, Dialogue: 0,0:14:12.22,0:14:16.39,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,my hunger for the \NWord of God was insatiable. Dialogue: 0,0:14:16.39,0:14:18.49,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I used to speed everywhere. Dialogue: 0,0:14:18.49,0:14:20.73,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I had a turbo-charged car, Dialogue: 0,0:14:20.73,0:14:22.49,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I had a GSXR750 motorcycle, Dialogue: 0,0:14:22.49,0:14:26.48,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,everything had radar detectors \Non them, and I drove fast. Dialogue: 0,0:14:26.48,0:14:29.16,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And I ran from police... \Nnow I'm under conviction, Dialogue: 0,0:14:29.16,0:14:31.61,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and this was back when \Nthe speed limit was still 55. Dialogue: 0,0:14:31.61,0:14:33.44,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It was killing me. \NI mean I had a reputation, Dialogue: 0,0:14:33.44,0:14:36.44,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,when I went to work, nobody passed me. Dialogue: 0,0:14:36.44,0:14:37.79,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And now everybody's passing me, Dialogue: 0,0:14:37.79,0:14:40.79,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but I knew this is what the Lord wanted. Dialogue: 0,0:14:40.79,0:14:45.55,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I was suddenly being overwhelmed by joy. Dialogue: 0,0:14:45.55,0:14:49.58,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I wasn't raised under good teaching. Dialogue: 0,0:14:49.58,0:14:52.06,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I didn't have anybody mentoring me. Dialogue: 0,0:14:52.06,0:14:58.16,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It was this book, it was MacArthur's messages, Dialogue: 0,0:14:58.16,0:15:02.11,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And I knew something had happened to me, Dialogue: 0,0:15:02.11,0:15:05.11,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but I wasn't totally sure what had happened. Dialogue: 0,0:15:05.11,0:15:07.16,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I knew Christ did it. Dialogue: 0,0:15:07.16,0:15:11.36,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And I knew I was experiencing \Njoy unspeakable. Dialogue: 0,0:15:11.36,0:15:13.22,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I remember coming out of the bathroom Dialogue: 0,0:15:13.22,0:15:16.37,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,in the morning and just falling on my face, Dialogue: 0,0:15:16.37,0:15:20.22,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and being so overwhelmed by joy. Dialogue: 0,0:15:20.22,0:15:23.27,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I had this high school buddy, Dialogue: 0,0:15:23.27,0:15:26.27,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and it was about six months \Nlater, around Christmas time. Dialogue: 0,0:15:26.27,0:15:29.24,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,See I was still drinking, \NI was still going to the bars Dialogue: 0,0:15:29.24,0:15:34.26,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,with my buddies, but now I'm evangelizing. Dialogue: 0,0:15:34.26,0:15:36.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And there I am and it's Christmas time Dialogue: 0,0:15:36.99,0:15:39.51,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and my buddy's home from school, Dialogue: 0,0:15:39.51,0:15:44.52,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,he was at that time getting \Nhis master's degree in theology. Dialogue: 0,0:15:44.52,0:15:46.57,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,He later went on to get his doctorate Dialogue: 0,0:15:46.57,0:15:49.17,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and he's now a Jesuit \Npriest at Notre Dame. Dialogue: 0,0:15:49.17,0:15:52.11,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,He may be in Italy now, \Nbut he was there at the time. Dialogue: 0,0:15:52.11,0:15:56.38,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But here he is this guy \NI went to high school with, Dialogue: 0,0:15:56.38,0:16:01.46,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,he's this master's theology student, Dialogue: 0,0:16:01.46,0:16:04.01,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,up there at Calvin College or Hope College Dialogue: 0,0:16:04.01,0:16:06.60,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,or somewhere there in Michigan. Dialogue: 0,0:16:06.60,0:16:09.62,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And so here I am, been saved six months, Dialogue: 0,0:16:09.62,0:16:12.62,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,never trained in the Scriptures at all, Dialogue: 0,0:16:12.62,0:16:14.75,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and here's this Catholic guy Dialogue: 0,0:16:14.75,0:16:17.91,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,who's on his way to becoming a Jesuit. Dialogue: 0,0:16:17.91,0:16:21.62,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And I'm telling him things \Nabout what's happened, Dialogue: 0,0:16:21.62,0:16:25.74,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and he's getting irate, \Nbecause he's the theologian! Dialogue: 0,0:16:25.74,0:16:27.31,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Who am I? Dialogue: 0,0:16:27.31,0:16:29.31,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,In fact, he said that to me. Dialogue: 0,0:16:29.31,0:16:34.02,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,"Conway! Who are you to tell me anything?" Dialogue: 0,0:16:34.02,0:16:37.98,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,He said, "You can't even tell me \Nwhat Christ's first miracle was." Dialogue: 0,0:16:37.98,0:16:40.26,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Oh, I hung my head. Dialogue: 0,0:16:40.26,0:16:42.86,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I said, "You're right, Dave, I can't." Dialogue: 0,0:16:42.86,0:16:47.59,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I went home that night, and I found \Nout what Christ's first miracle was. Dialogue: 0,0:16:47.59,0:16:50.22,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I said, "David, all I can tell you is Dialogue: 0,0:16:50.22,0:16:54.33,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,you know how I was, \Nand I am totally different now." Dialogue: 0,0:16:54.33,0:16:56.08,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I didn't know what had happened, Dialogue: 0,0:16:56.08,0:16:57.82,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but I knew Christ had done it, Dialogue: 0,0:16:57.82,0:16:59.77,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and it just sent him into a rage. Dialogue: 0,0:16:59.77,0:17:00.100,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It was like how do you even answer that, Dialogue: 0,0:17:00.100,0:17:02.77,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,even though you're a theologian. Dialogue: 0,0:17:02.77,0:17:05.58,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And it wasn't until one day, Dialogue: 0,0:17:05.58,0:17:07.45,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,everybody there where I worked, Dialogue: 0,0:17:07.45,0:17:09.92,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,they all knew me as a crazy guy. Dialogue: 0,0:17:09.92,0:17:14.66,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Well, as I was coming out of \Nthe drafting department one day, Dialogue: 0,0:17:14.66,0:17:18.74,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I heard one of the guys \Nwhisper across the aisle, Dialogue: 0,0:17:18.74,0:17:22.89,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,"Hey, what happened to him?" Dialogue: 0,0:17:22.89,0:17:26.19,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And as I'm going out \Nof the drafting department Dialogue: 0,0:17:26.19,0:17:29.19,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,back into the engineering \Ndepartment, I'm just at the door, Dialogue: 0,0:17:29.19,0:17:32.05,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I hear the other guy say, Dialogue: 0,0:17:32.05,0:17:35.05,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,"I'll tell you what happened \Nto him, God saved him." Dialogue: 0,0:17:35.05,0:17:38.20,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And it stopped me in \Nmy tracks and I thought, Dialogue: 0,0:17:38.20,0:17:41.86,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,"Whoa! That's what happened to me!" Dialogue: 0,0:17:41.86,0:17:45.43,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,That night, it just hit me, \Nyou know I'd been reading Dialogue: 0,0:17:45.43,0:17:47.95,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,MacArthur's book and it all came back Dialogue: 0,0:17:47.95,0:17:52.01,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and that night I can remember \Nstanding out under the moonlit sky Dialogue: 0,0:17:52.01,0:17:55.85,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and just rejoicing. It hit me. Dialogue: 0,0:17:55.85,0:18:01.91,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Lord, there is rejoicing \Nin heaven over me! Dialogue: 0,0:18:01.91,0:18:06.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And so that happened in 1990. Dialogue: 0,0:18:06.00,0:18:11.90,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And in a nutshell, that's \Nbasically how God saved me.