[Script Info] Title: [Events] Format: Layer, Start, End, Style, Name, MarginL, MarginR, MarginV, Effect, Text Dialogue: 0,0:00:05.84,0:00:11.98,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,This one comes from Vlad. Dialogue: 0,0:00:11.98,0:00:16.72,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,That sounds Russian or Romanian. Dialogue: 0,0:00:16.72,0:00:20.03,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,"If I have sinned, Dialogue: 0,0:00:20.03,0:00:25.72,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and sin brings death (James 1:15), Dialogue: 0,0:00:25.72,0:00:29.18,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,how can I have life Dialogue: 0,0:00:29.18,0:00:34.91,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and fellowship with God again? Dialogue: 0,0:00:34.91,0:00:36.89,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I've committed a sin Dialogue: 0,0:00:36.89,0:00:38.84,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and realize I no longer have the same Dialogue: 0,0:00:38.84,0:00:42.47,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,relationship I had. Dialogue: 0,0:00:42.47,0:00:46.63,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Although I was pressed by God to repent, Dialogue: 0,0:00:46.63,0:00:49.61,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and did so. Dialogue: 0,0:00:49.61,0:00:53.27,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Can you say something about 1 John 5:16, Dialogue: 0,0:00:53.27,0:00:55.18,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,"God will give him life," Dialogue: 0,0:00:55.18,0:00:58.34,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,because that is what I'm looking for. Dialogue: 0,0:00:58.34,0:00:59.44,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I have read somewhere Dialogue: 0,0:00:59.44,0:01:01.90,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that the relationship is not broken, Dialogue: 0,0:01:01.90,0:01:05.36,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but fellowship can be broken. Dialogue: 0,0:01:05.36,0:01:10.04,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Is it biblical to say so?" Dialogue: 0,0:01:10.04,0:01:14.13,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Ok. Somebody read James 1:15. Dialogue: 0,0:01:14.13,0:01:19.25,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Let's get a feel for \Nwhere he's struggling. Dialogue: 0,0:01:19.25,0:01:23.78,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Somebody read James 1:15. Dialogue: 0,0:01:23.78,0:01:25.85,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,"And desire when it has conceived Dialogue: 0,0:01:25.85,0:01:27.48,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,gives birth to sin, Dialogue: 0,0:01:27.48,0:01:29.65,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and sin, when it is fully grown, Dialogue: 0,0:01:29.65,0:01:31.79,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,brings forth death." Dialogue: 0,0:01:31.79,0:01:39.02,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Ok, so he sees desire, sin, death. Dialogue: 0,0:01:39.02,0:01:42.98,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But it doesn't just say if there's desire Dialogue: 0,0:01:42.98,0:01:48.07,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and it results in a sin, Dialogue: 0,0:01:48.07,0:01:50.10,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that there's death. Dialogue: 0,0:01:50.10,0:01:51.68,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It says sin does something. Dialogue: 0,0:01:51.68,0:01:56.79,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,What does it say happens to sin? Dialogue: 0,0:01:56.79,0:01:58.74,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,When sin what? Dialogue: 0,0:01:58.74,0:02:02.43,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Is fully grown. Dialogue: 0,0:02:02.43,0:02:06.46,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Now that's not to say that the wage Dialogue: 0,0:02:06.46,0:02:10.70,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,of a single sin isn't death. Dialogue: 0,0:02:10.70,0:02:14.72,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But when he talks about sin fully grown, Dialogue: 0,0:02:14.72,0:02:19.26,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,it's like there's this growth. Dialogue: 0,0:02:19.26,0:02:22.94,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Now he's describing desire. Dialogue: 0,0:02:22.94,0:02:24.53,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,What's behind sin? Dialogue: 0,0:02:24.53,0:02:27.68,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,There's desire that fuels our sin. Dialogue: 0,0:02:27.68,0:02:32.75,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And then sin, when it's full grown, Dialogue: 0,0:02:32.75,0:02:35.34,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,then there's death. Dialogue: 0,0:02:35.34,0:02:41.41,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,More like a picture of the \Nlife of the unbeliever. Dialogue: 0,0:02:41.41,0:02:44.01,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,You have this desire that percolates Dialogue: 0,0:02:44.01,0:02:46.60,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and results in sin, and the sin grows, Dialogue: 0,0:02:46.60,0:02:48.91,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,kind of like the sin of the Amorites. Dialogue: 0,0:02:48.91,0:02:50.50,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It's not yet full. Dialogue: 0,0:02:50.50,0:02:53.09,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It grows. Dialogue: 0,0:02:53.09,0:02:56.33,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Our sin grows. It multiplies. Dialogue: 0,0:02:56.33,0:02:58.26,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And you get to this place Dialogue: 0,0:02:58.26,0:03:00.97,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,where you're like \NChristian in Pilgrim's Progress Dialogue: 0,0:03:00.97,0:03:03.27,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,where you've got this \Nhuge pack on your back. Dialogue: 0,0:03:03.27,0:03:06.18,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It's like God lets it \Ngrow to a certain place Dialogue: 0,0:03:06.18,0:03:08.82,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and then it just explodes in death. Dialogue: 0,0:03:08.82,0:03:11.97,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But the very fact that James walks us Dialogue: 0,0:03:11.97,0:03:13.26,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,all the way through; Dialogue: 0,0:03:13.26,0:03:16.15,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,there's no life - it just goes to death. Dialogue: 0,0:03:16.15,0:03:20.43,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,That would seem to indicate the growth Dialogue: 0,0:03:20.43,0:03:25.60,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,of lust and sin resulting in death Dialogue: 0,0:03:25.60,0:03:27.95,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,in the life of an unbeliever. Dialogue: 0,0:03:27.95,0:03:34.73,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It's basically just lost man. Dialogue: 0,0:03:34.73,0:03:38.17,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Now he also mentions 1 John. Dialogue: 0,0:03:38.17,0:03:42.31,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Let's go over there. 1 John 5:16 Dialogue: 0,0:03:42.31,0:03:44.88,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Somebody read 1 John 5:16. Dialogue: 0,0:03:44.88,0:03:47.48,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Brethren, I'll tell you this, Dialogue: 0,0:03:47.48,0:03:50.15,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,sometimes the most difficult verses Dialogue: 0,0:03:50.15,0:03:53.80,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to understand can really be helpful Dialogue: 0,0:03:53.80,0:03:58.40,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,in shedding light on some things Dialogue: 0,0:03:58.40,0:04:00.35,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,when properly understood. Dialogue: 0,0:04:00.35,0:04:02.03,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Sometimes difficult verses can be Dialogue: 0,0:04:02.03,0:04:05.84,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the foundation for horrible error. Dialogue: 0,0:04:05.84,0:04:11.68,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Sometimes they can be really helpful Dialogue: 0,0:04:11.68,0:04:14.34,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,in helping us to see things Dialogue: 0,0:04:14.34,0:04:17.21,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the way they really are. Dialogue: 0,0:04:17.21,0:04:20.64,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Somebody read 1 John 5:16. Dialogue: 0,0:04:20.64,0:04:22.86,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,"If anyone sees his \Nbrother committing a sin Dialogue: 0,0:04:22.86,0:04:24.37,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,not leading to death, Dialogue: 0,0:04:24.37,0:04:27.04,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,he shall ask and God will give him life - Dialogue: 0,0:04:27.04,0:04:29.83,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to those who commit sins \Nthat do not lead to death, Dialogue: 0,0:04:29.83,0:04:31.73,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,There is sin that leads to death. Dialogue: 0,0:04:31.73,0:04:34.100,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I do not say that one \Nshould pray for that." Dialogue: 0,0:04:34.100,0:04:37.17,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Read it again: Dialogue: 0,0:04:37.17,0:04:40.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,"If anyone sees his brother committing..." Dialogue: 0,0:04:40.00,0:04:43.70,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Ok, stop. Dialogue: 0,0:04:43.70,0:04:46.78,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Who's he writing to? Dialogue: 0,0:04:46.78,0:04:53.51,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Who is 1 John written to? Dialogue: 0,0:04:53.51,0:04:56.34,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Who said believers? Dialogue: 0,0:04:56.34,0:04:59.67,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Prove it. Dialogue: 0,0:04:59.67,0:05:01.38,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Prove it's written to believers. Dialogue: 0,0:05:01.38,0:05:02.21,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,(from the room) Dialogue: 0,0:05:02.21,0:05:03.51,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,"My little children..." Dialogue: 0,0:05:03.51,0:05:11.52,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,My little children - where \Ndoes it say that? Dialogue: 0,0:05:11.52,0:05:12.46,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,(from the room) Dialogue: 0,0:05:12.46,0:05:15.04,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,1 John 2:1 Dialogue: 0,0:05:15.04,0:05:17.43,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Quote 1 John 5:13 Dialogue: 0,0:05:17.43,0:05:19.26,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,"I write these things to you who Dialogue: 0,0:05:19.26,0:05:21.15,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,believe in the name of the Son of God." Dialogue: 0,0:05:21.15,0:05:24.15,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I write these things to you who believe. Dialogue: 0,0:05:24.15,0:05:26.97,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Ok, go back to 5:16. Dialogue: 0,0:05:26.97,0:05:32.67,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,"If anyone sees his \Nbrother committing a sin..." Dialogue: 0,0:05:32.67,0:05:34.12,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Ok, who is he speaking to now? Dialogue: 0,0:05:34.12,0:05:35.86,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,He's speaking to those who believe. Dialogue: 0,0:05:35.86,0:05:39.23,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And if they see who? Dialogue: 0,0:05:39.23,0:05:40.78,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,His brother. Dialogue: 0,0:05:40.78,0:05:43.31,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,What's the implication there? Dialogue: 0,0:05:43.31,0:05:47.28,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Is he speaking about seeing a lost man? Dialogue: 0,0:05:47.28,0:05:48.44,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Now, see, I would say Dialogue: 0,0:05:48.44,0:05:51.28,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,James was speaking about a lost man. Dialogue: 0,0:05:51.28,0:05:53.04,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Now, he may be speaking about Dialogue: 0,0:05:53.04,0:05:54.85,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,what would happen to any one of us Dialogue: 0,0:05:54.85,0:05:56.58,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,if we weren't plucked from that. Dialogue: 0,0:05:56.58,0:05:59.44,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But basically, the end is death. Dialogue: 0,0:05:59.44,0:06:02.07,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The end for the Christian isn't death. Dialogue: 0,0:06:02.07,0:06:04.68,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The end for the Christian is life. Dialogue: 0,0:06:04.68,0:06:06.70,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But if we go here, Dialogue: 0,0:06:06.70,0:06:11.60,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the idea is that if anybody sees a brother Dialogue: 0,0:06:11.60,0:06:17.38,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,who's sinning a sin \Nthat is not unto death. Dialogue: 0,0:06:17.38,0:06:20.14,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Well, if they're truly a brother, Dialogue: 0,0:06:20.14,0:06:21.76,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,if they're truly a brother... Dialogue: 0,0:06:21.76,0:06:23.55,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,now I recognize sometimes Scripture Dialogue: 0,0:06:23.55,0:06:26.75,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,speaks about what people claim to be, Dialogue: 0,0:06:26.75,0:06:29.13,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,not what they really are. Dialogue: 0,0:06:29.13,0:06:30.51,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And Scripture is charitable Dialogue: 0,0:06:30.51,0:06:32.70,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and will regard people according to Dialogue: 0,0:06:32.70,0:06:36.04,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,what they claim to be. Dialogue: 0,0:06:36.04,0:06:41.82,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Scripture can speak about Dialogue: 0,0:06:41.82,0:06:43.41,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the righteous. Dialogue: 0,0:06:43.41,0:06:47.09,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Jesus talked about He didn't come Dialogue: 0,0:06:47.09,0:06:49.71,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to call the righteous. Dialogue: 0,0:06:49.71,0:06:52.72,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Scripture calls them \Nwhat they claim to be, Dialogue: 0,0:06:52.72,0:06:54.80,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,not what they really are. Dialogue: 0,0:06:54.80,0:06:56.28,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But here, a brother. Dialogue: 0,0:06:56.28,0:06:58.22,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,You see a brother who commits a sin Dialogue: 0,0:06:58.22,0:06:59.19,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,not unto death. Dialogue: 0,0:06:59.19,0:07:02.26,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Well, anybody that's truly a brother, Dialogue: 0,0:07:02.26,0:07:04.19,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,truly a Christian, can only Dialogue: 0,0:07:04.19,0:07:09.66,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,commit sins that aren't unto death. Dialogue: 0,0:07:09.66,0:07:11.98,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But in light of the context of 1 John, Dialogue: 0,0:07:11.98,0:07:19.38,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,what would be a sin that leads unto death? Dialogue: 0,0:07:19.38,0:07:25.14,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The feel is - what he's talking about Dialogue: 0,0:07:25.14,0:07:28.75,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,is you've got these antichrists. Dialogue: 0,0:07:28.75,0:07:31.42,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,They went out from us, because \Nthey weren't of us. Dialogue: 0,0:07:31.42,0:07:32.86,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,See, they continue in sin. Dialogue: 0,0:07:32.86,0:07:34.18,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,They practice sin. Dialogue: 0,0:07:34.18,0:07:36.33,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And the idea is, Dialogue: 0,0:07:36.33,0:07:39.82,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,if you go out after having had this light, Dialogue: 0,0:07:39.82,0:07:42.02,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and you go on practicing sin, Dialogue: 0,0:07:42.02,0:07:43.61,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that's a sin unto death. Dialogue: 0,0:07:43.61,0:07:45.70,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,You see, the idea here is, Dialogue: 0,0:07:45.70,0:07:48.14,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,he's talking to them about something Dialogue: 0,0:07:48.14,0:07:51.100,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,he expects them to recognize Dialogue: 0,0:07:51.100,0:07:53.56,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,from his epistle Dialogue: 0,0:07:53.56,0:07:55.26,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,what he's talking about, Dialogue: 0,0:07:55.26,0:07:56.53,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,when he talks about a sin Dialogue: 0,0:07:56.53,0:07:57.80,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that leads unto death, Dialogue: 0,0:07:57.80,0:08:00.38,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,when he talks about a sin\Nthat doesn't lead unto death. Dialogue: 0,0:08:00.38,0:08:02.15,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,If you go through the whole letter, Dialogue: 0,0:08:02.15,0:08:04.29,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,he's talking about Christians... Dialogue: 0,0:08:04.29,0:08:06.95,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,"I write to you, little \Nchildren, that you don't sin. Dialogue: 0,0:08:06.95,0:08:08.80,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But if you do sin, we have an Advocate Dialogue: 0,0:08:08.80,0:08:11.07,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,with the Father - \NJesus Christ the Righteous." Dialogue: 0,0:08:11.07,0:08:13.79,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,You know that is a sin that \Ndoesn't lead unto death. Dialogue: 0,0:08:13.79,0:08:15.50,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Why? Because, \N"my little children." Dialogue: 0,0:08:15.50,0:08:16.94,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And we have an Advocate. Dialogue: 0,0:08:16.94,0:08:18.53,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So that doesn't lead to death. Dialogue: 0,0:08:18.53,0:08:21.01,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Whereas those who \Nprofessed to be Christians Dialogue: 0,0:08:21.01,0:08:25.33,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,at one point, but denied Jesus Christ - Dialogue: 0,0:08:25.33,0:08:27.07,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to deny Jesus Christ doesn't mean Dialogue: 0,0:08:27.07,0:08:29.14,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,you say Jesus doesn't exist. Dialogue: 0,0:08:29.14,0:08:33.21,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It means you deny something about Him. Dialogue: 0,0:08:33.21,0:08:35.01,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,They continued in this sin. Dialogue: 0,0:08:35.01,0:08:36.95,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,They went out from among the Christians Dialogue: 0,0:08:36.95,0:08:39.54,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,because they weren't \Nreally of the Christians. Dialogue: 0,0:08:39.54,0:08:41.97,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,They continued in unrighteousness. Dialogue: 0,0:08:41.97,0:08:45.07,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,He's saying, look, I say to you, Dialogue: 0,0:08:45.07,0:08:47.69,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,you pray for those brothers - Dialogue: 0,0:08:47.69,0:08:50.05,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,those who are faithful, Dialogue: 0,0:08:50.05,0:08:52.73,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,those who have stuck by the Christians, Dialogue: 0,0:08:52.73,0:08:55.33,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,those who show that they \Nhave a love for the brethren; Dialogue: 0,0:08:55.33,0:08:58.43,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,those who keep the \Ncommandments of Jesus Christ Dialogue: 0,0:08:58.43,0:08:59.40,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,as a rule; Dialogue: 0,0:08:59.40,0:09:01.74,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,those who are following Him. Dialogue: 0,0:09:01.74,0:09:03.63,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Those who are not given to worldliness. Dialogue: 0,0:09:03.63,0:09:06.18,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Those who have not gone out from us, Dialogue: 0,0:09:06.18,0:09:08.98,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,because they are of us. Dialogue: 0,0:09:08.98,0:09:10.37,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,When they sin, Dialogue: 0,0:09:10.37,0:09:11.83,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,you pray for it. Dialogue: 0,0:09:11.83,0:09:13.33,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,You pray for that kind of sin, Dialogue: 0,0:09:13.33,0:09:14.56,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,because that's a sin that Dialogue: 0,0:09:14.56,0:09:15.95,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,doesn't lead to death. Dialogue: 0,0:09:15.95,0:09:18.07,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Whereas these people \Nthat continue in sin, Dialogue: 0,0:09:18.07,0:09:20.87,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,these people that deny Jesus Christ - Dialogue: 0,0:09:20.87,0:09:23.13,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,you deny the Son, you deny the Father. Dialogue: 0,0:09:23.13,0:09:24.66,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Those people that deny. Dialogue: 0,0:09:24.66,0:09:25.69,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Those heretics. Dialogue: 0,0:09:25.69,0:09:28.10,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Those people that are redesigning Dialogue: 0,0:09:28.10,0:09:30.49,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and redefining Jesus Christ. Dialogue: 0,0:09:30.49,0:09:34.63,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I'm not saying to pray for them. Dialogue: 0,0:09:34.63,0:09:38.62,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But here's what he's asking about, Dialogue: 0,0:09:38.62,0:09:43.16,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and here's what's really interesting. Dialogue: 0,0:09:43.16,0:09:46.79,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,If you pray for a brother who has Dialogue: 0,0:09:46.79,0:09:51.52,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,committed a sin not unto death. Dialogue: 0,0:09:51.52,0:09:57.15,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,What happens? Dialogue: 0,0:09:57.15,0:10:04.04,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,God will give him life. Dialogue: 0,0:10:04.04,0:10:05.38,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,What happened? Dialogue: 0,0:10:05.38,0:10:09.07,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Did he lose life? Dialogue: 0,0:10:09.07,0:10:12.15,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Did he lose his life when he sinned? Dialogue: 0,0:10:12.15,0:10:14.10,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,What do you mean \NGod will give him life? Dialogue: 0,0:10:14.10,0:10:15.94,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I thought when we \Nfirst believed upon Dialogue: 0,0:10:15.94,0:10:18.26,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the Lord Jesus Christ, \Nwe have eternal life. Dialogue: 0,0:10:18.26,0:10:19.95,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I thought that Jesus said that Dialogue: 0,0:10:19.95,0:10:22.86,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,him who comes to Me, I will not cast out. Dialogue: 0,0:10:22.86,0:10:26.15,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Has he been cast out? Dialogue: 0,0:10:26.15,0:10:29.42,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Didn't Jesus say eternal life? Dialogue: 0,0:10:29.42,0:10:32.17,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,No one will pluck them. Dialogue: 0,0:10:32.17,0:10:33.68,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Isn't that what we're told? Dialogue: 0,0:10:33.68,0:10:36.10,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Can it be eternal life if Dialogue: 0,0:10:36.10,0:10:38.86,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,a brother who commits a sin Dialogue: 0,0:10:38.86,0:10:41.09,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that's not unto death...? Dialogue: 0,0:10:41.09,0:10:42.77,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Well, wait. He's a brother and Dialogue: 0,0:10:42.77,0:10:44.74,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,he commits a sin that's not unto death. Dialogue: 0,0:10:44.74,0:10:49.75,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Where does life even come in? Dialogue: 0,0:10:49.75,0:10:52.26,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Life. Dialogue: 0,0:10:52.26,0:10:55.36,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Doesn't he already have life? Dialogue: 0,0:10:55.36,0:10:57.23,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Did it get taken away? Dialogue: 0,0:10:57.23,0:11:07.78,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Did he lose his life? Dialogue: 0,0:11:07.78,0:11:12.20,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,You know, I think what it helps us to do Dialogue: 0,0:11:12.20,0:11:19.26,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,is really think about the nature of life. Dialogue: 0,0:11:19.26,0:11:26.86,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,We are so, I would say, earthly minded Dialogue: 0,0:11:26.86,0:11:30.62,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,when it comes to life and death. Dialogue: 0,0:11:30.62,0:11:32.75,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Because we tend to see people Dialogue: 0,0:11:32.75,0:11:37.86,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,who are moving, living... Dialogue: 0,0:11:37.86,0:11:44.02,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,In our eyes, even though \Nwe don't regard things Dialogue: 0,0:11:44.02,0:11:46.85,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,according to the flesh any longer, Dialogue: 0,0:11:46.85,0:11:55.81,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,yet we do see through physical eyes. Dialogue: 0,0:11:55.81,0:11:58.49,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,We've been to funerals. Dialogue: 0,0:11:58.49,0:12:00.07,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,We look in the casket. Dialogue: 0,0:12:00.07,0:12:01.26,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,We see death. Dialogue: 0,0:12:01.26,0:12:02.28,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Oh, that's death. Dialogue: 0,0:12:02.28,0:12:03.79,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,They're dead. Dialogue: 0,0:12:03.79,0:12:05.37,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,There's no pulse. Dialogue: 0,0:12:05.37,0:12:10.21,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Well, they're dead. Dialogue: 0,0:12:10.21,0:12:12.66,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And I recognize when we come to Scripture, Dialogue: 0,0:12:12.66,0:12:15.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,we can talk more about spiritual life Dialogue: 0,0:12:15.99,0:12:20.02,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and spiritual death. Dialogue: 0,0:12:20.02,0:12:31.04,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But, do you remember \Nhow John defines life? Dialogue: 0,0:12:31.04,0:12:35.84,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Anybody remember how he defines it? Dialogue: 0,0:12:35.84,0:12:38.74,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,John 17:3 Dialogue: 0,0:12:38.74,0:12:44.20,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,What is it to have life? Dialogue: 0,0:12:44.20,0:12:45.60,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,(from the room) Dialogue: 0,0:12:45.60,0:12:50.52,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,"This is eternal life, \Nthat they may know Thee, Dialogue: 0,0:12:50.52,0:12:52.31,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the one true God and Jesus Christ Dialogue: 0,0:12:52.31,0:12:55.64,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,whom Thou hast sent." Dialogue: 0,0:12:55.64,0:12:58.64,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It's to know God. Dialogue: 0,0:12:58.64,0:13:01.08,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,That's the issue. Dialogue: 0,0:13:01.08,0:13:04.02,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It's to know God. Dialogue: 0,0:13:04.02,0:13:10.28,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Life is to know God. Dialogue: 0,0:13:10.28,0:13:12.56,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It's to know Christ. Dialogue: 0,0:13:12.56,0:13:19.41,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Now look, knowing \Nin Scripture is intimate. Dialogue: 0,0:13:19.41,0:13:22.86,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It isn't just knowing facts. Dialogue: 0,0:13:22.86,0:13:24.49,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,To know. Dialogue: 0,0:13:24.49,0:13:33.06,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The word is used in \Nreally interesting ways. Dialogue: 0,0:13:33.06,0:13:39.94,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,When Mary gave birth to Jesus, Dialogue: 0,0:13:39.94,0:13:46.65,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Joseph had not yet known her. Dialogue: 0,0:13:46.65,0:13:51.65,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,There's sexual intimacy \Nactually behind that word. Dialogue: 0,0:13:51.65,0:13:54.28,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,To know. Dialogue: 0,0:13:54.28,0:13:58.94,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Life - you have to understand Dialogue: 0,0:13:58.94,0:14:01.79,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,what Jesus is saying when He says Dialogue: 0,0:14:01.79,0:14:04.11,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that they will have life more abundantly. Dialogue: 0,0:14:04.11,0:14:08.21,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It's like we heard on Sunday. Dialogue: 0,0:14:08.21,0:14:11.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It's to embrace the glory of God. Dialogue: 0,0:14:11.00,0:14:14.45,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It's to see the face of God. Dialogue: 0,0:14:14.45,0:14:19.68,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,To know God is to have intimacy with Him. Dialogue: 0,0:14:19.68,0:14:22.87,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It's to embrace Him. Dialogue: 0,0:14:22.87,0:14:27.54,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Yes, there's a knowledge \Nthat has to do with it. Dialogue: 0,0:14:27.54,0:14:31.100,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But when we talk life, when we talk death. Dialogue: 0,0:14:31.100,0:14:36.92,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,At the deepest level, that's \Nwhat we're talking about. Dialogue: 0,0:14:36.92,0:14:39.24,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Now think about this. Dialogue: 0,0:14:39.24,0:14:45.81,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,If I am supposed to pray for a brother Dialogue: 0,0:14:45.81,0:14:48.06,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,who commits a sin that's not unto death, Dialogue: 0,0:14:48.06,0:14:51.63,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,which means he has life, Dialogue: 0,0:14:51.63,0:14:53.43,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and he's never going to see death. Dialogue: 0,0:14:53.43,0:14:54.85,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,He's not going to go to hell. Dialogue: 0,0:14:54.85,0:14:57.75,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,He's not going to perish. Dialogue: 0,0:14:57.75,0:15:00.29,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,What do you mean I pray for him Dialogue: 0,0:15:00.29,0:15:03.64,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and God's going to give him life? Dialogue: 0,0:15:03.64,0:15:06.05,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,He already has life. Dialogue: 0,0:15:06.05,0:15:08.100,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Yeah, but remember this. Dialogue: 0,0:15:08.100,0:15:14.46,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,He's committed a sin. Dialogue: 0,0:15:14.46,0:15:19.89,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,No, the sin doesn't lead to death. Dialogue: 0,0:15:19.89,0:15:24.32,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But what does that seem to communicate Dialogue: 0,0:15:24.32,0:15:28.81,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that if I pray for a brother or sister Dialogue: 0,0:15:28.81,0:15:31.60,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,who sinned, Dialogue: 0,0:15:31.60,0:15:33.61,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,what does that seem to communicate? Dialogue: 0,0:15:33.61,0:15:37.23,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,That God will give them life? Dialogue: 0,0:15:37.23,0:15:41.58,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,When you think about \Nlife as John defines it. Dialogue: 0,0:15:41.58,0:15:45.08,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,What does it seem to mean? Dialogue: 0,0:15:45.08,0:15:47.02,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I don't think John \Nwants us to think Dialogue: 0,0:15:47.02,0:15:49.55,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,oh, they lost their life - \Nnow they get it back. Dialogue: 0,0:15:49.55,0:15:51.95,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,They're in - they're out.\NThey're in - they're out. Dialogue: 0,0:15:51.95,0:15:53.21,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,If you sin, you're out. Dialogue: 0,0:15:53.21,0:15:55.70,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,If you get somebody to pray for you, Dialogue: 0,0:15:55.70,0:15:57.15,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,you're back in again. Dialogue: 0,0:15:57.15,0:15:58.96,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,In and out; in and out;\Nin and out... Dialogue: 0,0:15:58.96,0:16:00.18,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,That's not eternal life. Dialogue: 0,0:16:00.18,0:16:02.32,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Because that's not eternal. Dialogue: 0,0:16:02.32,0:16:03.74,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,That's temporary life. Dialogue: 0,0:16:03.74,0:16:06.18,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,That's back and forth life. Dialogue: 0,0:16:06.18,0:16:08.54,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,That's I'm alive, I'm dead, \NI'm alive, I'm dead. Dialogue: 0,0:16:08.54,0:16:13.45,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,That's not eternal life. Dialogue: 0,0:16:13.45,0:16:16.35,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,For one thing, I think this. Dialogue: 0,0:16:16.35,0:16:21.57,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The Bible uses "life" in different ways Dialogue: 0,0:16:21.57,0:16:24.89,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,in different places. Dialogue: 0,0:16:24.89,0:16:27.93,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And I don't think we want \Nto take it here to mean Dialogue: 0,0:16:27.93,0:16:31.49,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,obviously, it doesn't mean physical life. Dialogue: 0,0:16:31.49,0:16:32.88,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It doesn't mean if you sin, Dialogue: 0,0:16:32.88,0:16:34.72,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,you die physically. Dialogue: 0,0:16:34.72,0:16:36.55,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And then God will raise you back up. Dialogue: 0,0:16:36.55,0:16:40.86,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Certainly it doesn't mean that. Dialogue: 0,0:16:40.86,0:16:43.59,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And it doesn't mean being saved\Nall over again, Dialogue: 0,0:16:43.59,0:16:48.82,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,because the guy's already a brother. Dialogue: 0,0:16:48.82,0:16:53.89,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It seems to indicate, like he says, Dialogue: 0,0:16:53.89,0:16:58.37,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,it seems to indicate fellowship. Dialogue: 0,0:16:58.37,0:16:59.91,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Now you think with me here. Dialogue: 0,0:16:59.91,0:17:02.78,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Go back to 1 John 1. Dialogue: 0,0:17:02.78,0:17:07.59,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Somebody just begin reading 1 John 1:1. Dialogue: 0,0:17:07.59,0:17:11.34,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Just read until we get tired. Dialogue: 0,0:17:11.34,0:17:13.09,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,"That which was from the beginning, Dialogue: 0,0:17:13.09,0:17:14.14,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,which we have heard, Dialogue: 0,0:17:14.14,0:17:16.03,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,which we have seen with our eyes, Dialogue: 0,0:17:16.03,0:17:17.27,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,which we have looked upon Dialogue: 0,0:17:17.27,0:17:19.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and we have touched with our hands Dialogue: 0,0:17:19.00,0:17:20.48,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,concerning the Word of Life. Dialogue: 0,0:17:20.48,0:17:21.82,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The life was made manifest Dialogue: 0,0:17:21.82,0:17:23.75,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and we have seen it and testify to it Dialogue: 0,0:17:23.75,0:17:26.30,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and proclaim to you the eternal life, Dialogue: 0,0:17:26.30,0:17:27.60,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,which was with the Father Dialogue: 0,0:17:27.60,0:17:29.51,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and was made manifest to us. Dialogue: 0,0:17:29.51,0:17:31.41,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,That which we have seen and heard, Dialogue: 0,0:17:31.41,0:17:33.38,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,we proclaim also to you, Dialogue: 0,0:17:33.38,0:17:35.82,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,so that you too may \Nhave fellowship with us. Dialogue: 0,0:17:35.82,0:17:38.12,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And indeed our fellowship \Nis with the Father Dialogue: 0,0:17:38.12,0:17:40.47,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and with His Son Jesus Christ. Dialogue: 0,0:17:40.47,0:17:42.75,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And we are writing these \Nthings so that our joy Dialogue: 0,0:17:42.75,0:17:44.23,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,may be complete." Dialogue: 0,0:17:44.23,0:17:46.14,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Right. Fellowship. Dialogue: 0,0:17:46.14,0:17:49.89,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Our fellowship. Dialogue: 0,0:17:49.89,0:17:54.90,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Brethren, I'm going to \Ntake my best stab at this. Dialogue: 0,0:17:54.90,0:18:00.71,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But I think what John means Dialogue: 0,0:18:00.71,0:18:06.95,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,is that sin interrupts Dialogue: 0,0:18:06.95,0:18:11.78,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,not life altogether, Dialogue: 0,0:18:11.78,0:18:14.98,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but if life is knowing God... Dialogue: 0,0:18:14.98,0:18:16.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Listen, Scripture's serious when it says Dialogue: 0,0:18:16.99,0:18:21.33,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,don't grieve the Holy Spirit. Dialogue: 0,0:18:21.33,0:18:26.34,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Sin interrupts your life. Dialogue: 0,0:18:26.34,0:18:33.17,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Sin interrupts your knowing God. Dialogue: 0,0:18:33.17,0:18:38.29,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Just even at that level, Dialogue: 0,0:18:38.29,0:18:44.30,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Adam knew Eve and she conceived. Dialogue: 0,0:18:44.30,0:18:50.83,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,At that level, if I sin against my wife, Dialogue: 0,0:18:50.83,0:18:57.27,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,it interrupts that life on that level. Dialogue: 0,0:18:57.27,0:19:05.67,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,If life is to know God and to know Christ, Dialogue: 0,0:19:05.67,0:19:08.42,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,sin interrupts. Dialogue: 0,0:19:08.42,0:19:16.37,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It seems like the issue here is this: Dialogue: 0,0:19:16.37,0:19:21.89,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that if we pray for one another - Dialogue: 0,0:19:21.89,0:19:24.03,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,brethren, I'll tell you this is big. Dialogue: 0,0:19:24.03,0:19:25.78,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I really think this is big. Dialogue: 0,0:19:25.78,0:19:29.90,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,For one thing, it really helps us feel Dialogue: 0,0:19:29.90,0:19:33.93,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the reality of what life is all about. Dialogue: 0,0:19:33.93,0:19:37.64,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It really helps us feel the reality Dialogue: 0,0:19:37.64,0:19:41.02,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,of how sin interrupts life. Dialogue: 0,0:19:41.02,0:19:45.95,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It really helps us feel \Nhow important it is Dialogue: 0,0:19:45.95,0:19:50.68,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to pray for other Christians that you see Dialogue: 0,0:19:50.68,0:19:55.98,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,falling into sin. Dialogue: 0,0:19:55.98,0:19:58.24,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Because you think about the promise here. Dialogue: 0,0:19:58.24,0:20:01.14,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Life will be restored to them. Dialogue: 0,0:20:01.14,0:20:03.14,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The fellowship will be brought back. Dialogue: 0,0:20:03.14,0:20:05.02,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The sweetness will be brought back. Dialogue: 0,0:20:05.02,0:20:07.20,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The intimacy, the closeness. Dialogue: 0,0:20:07.20,0:20:12.33,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Sin interrupts our fellowship with God. Dialogue: 0,0:20:12.33,0:20:13.80,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,We lose something. Dialogue: 0,0:20:13.80,0:20:16.18,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,We lose a sight of the glory. Dialogue: 0,0:20:16.18,0:20:18.78,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,We lose the face of God. Dialogue: 0,0:20:18.78,0:20:21.11,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,He hides. Dialogue: 0,0:20:21.11,0:20:22.76,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,That's a reality. Dialogue: 0,0:20:22.76,0:20:26.07,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And that's one of the \Ngreatest pains of sin. Dialogue: 0,0:20:26.07,0:20:29.25,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Look, for the Christian, it's \Nnot just the consequences Dialogue: 0,0:20:29.25,0:20:32.96,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,of getting caught in my sin. Dialogue: 0,0:20:32.96,0:20:34.51,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,A lot of times, brethren, Dialogue: 0,0:20:34.51,0:20:36.46,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the grief of the Christian behind sin Dialogue: 0,0:20:36.46,0:20:38.60,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,is how it's going to affect Dialogue: 0,0:20:38.60,0:20:43.20,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,my fellowship with the Lord. Dialogue: 0,0:20:43.20,0:20:47.62,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,That's the heart of the true Christian. Dialogue: 0,0:20:47.62,0:20:50.45,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Brethren, a text like this, Dialogue: 0,0:20:50.45,0:20:52.91,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,just think about what it says about Dialogue: 0,0:20:52.91,0:20:56.50,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,how terrible sin is. Dialogue: 0,0:20:56.50,0:20:59.82,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,How awful. Dialogue: 0,0:20:59.82,0:21:05.42,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It brings a death of sorts. Dialogue: 0,0:21:05.42,0:21:07.14,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Because what? Dialogue: 0,0:21:07.14,0:21:09.25,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It removes the smile of God. Dialogue: 0,0:21:09.25,0:21:10.80,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Brethren, I'll tell you this, Dialogue: 0,0:21:10.80,0:21:15.39,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,when you read in \NScripture about eternal death, Dialogue: 0,0:21:15.39,0:21:20.44,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,you need to recognize \Nwhat we're talking about. Dialogue: 0,0:21:20.44,0:21:25.78,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,What makes death death is not the fire Dialogue: 0,0:21:25.78,0:21:28.41,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,or the worm that never dies, Dialogue: 0,0:21:28.41,0:21:32.04,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,or the weeping and the gnashing of teeth. Dialogue: 0,0:21:32.04,0:21:34.97,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It is that you are so \Nseparated from God - Dialogue: 0,0:21:34.97,0:21:37.48,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that's what outer darkness means. Dialogue: 0,0:21:37.48,0:21:39.48,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,God is light. Dialogue: 0,0:21:39.48,0:21:42.95,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,To be in the outer darkness means Dialogue: 0,0:21:42.95,0:21:46.14,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,you are away from His smile. Dialogue: 0,0:21:46.14,0:21:48.49,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Oh, you're in the presence of the Lamb Dialogue: 0,0:21:48.49,0:21:50.96,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and of His angels - no question. Dialogue: 0,0:21:50.96,0:21:54.56,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Scripture says that. Dialogue: 0,0:21:54.56,0:21:59.38,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,You are horrifyingly in \Nthe presence of the Lamb. Dialogue: 0,0:21:59.38,0:22:01.34,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But there's no smile. Dialogue: 0,0:22:01.34,0:22:03.34,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,There's no intimacy. Dialogue: 0,0:22:03.34,0:22:05.25,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,There's no fellowship. Dialogue: 0,0:22:05.25,0:22:08.57,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,That's death. Dialogue: 0,0:22:08.57,0:22:13.49,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,That's what this says to us. Dialogue: 0,0:22:13.49,0:22:16.88,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And so I would say yes to Vlad, Dialogue: 0,0:22:16.88,0:22:19.06,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that that is right. Dialogue: 0,0:22:19.06,0:22:21.13,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,That this has to do with relationship. Dialogue: 0,0:22:21.13,0:22:23.38,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,This has to do with fellowship Dialogue: 0,0:22:23.38,0:22:27.58,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,as stated in 1 John 5:16. Dialogue: 0,0:22:27.58,0:22:29.78,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,That seems to be the only thing Dialogue: 0,0:22:29.78,0:22:34.59,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that you can possibly \Nmake sense out of this text Dialogue: 0,0:22:34.59,0:22:36.62,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,as far as its meaning, Dialogue: 0,0:22:36.62,0:22:39.54,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and in the context of 1 John, I think, Dialogue: 0,0:22:39.54,0:22:41.82,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that it makes sense. Dialogue: 0,0:22:41.82,0:22:44.53,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It seems to be consistent \Nwith that context. Dialogue: 0,0:22:44.53,0:22:46.50,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Otherwise, I'm afraid you end up Dialogue: 0,0:22:46.50,0:22:49.78,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,with some sort of doctrine Dialogue: 0,0:22:49.78,0:22:56.94,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,you don't want to end up with. Dialogue: 0,0:22:56.94,0:22:59.39,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Anybody else have any comments about that Dialogue: 0,0:22:59.39,0:23:05.02,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,or observations? Dialogue: 0,0:23:05.02,0:23:06.53,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But like I said before, Dialogue: 0,0:23:06.53,0:23:09.53,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,undoubtedly a hard to understand text Dialogue: 0,0:23:09.53,0:23:13.29,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,can result in all manner of error. Dialogue: 0,0:23:13.29,0:23:16.52,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But sometimes, the hard \Nto understand verses Dialogue: 0,0:23:16.52,0:23:20.86,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,can really be useful in helping us Dialogue: 0,0:23:20.86,0:23:22.26,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to understand... Dialogue: 0,0:23:22.26,0:23:28.03,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,brethren, the horrible, \Nfoul, ugly thing that sin is Dialogue: 0,0:23:28.03,0:23:32.96,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and what it does to the \Nsmile of God in your life. Dialogue: 0,0:23:32.96,0:23:38.78,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,What the real idea \Nbehind death is all about. Dialogue: 0,0:23:38.78,0:23:42.28,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And how critical that \Nwe pray for one another Dialogue: 0,0:23:42.28,0:23:48.09,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,when we see other \NChristians falling into sin. Dialogue: 0,0:23:48.09,0:23:50.85,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Brethren, you see anything about me Dialogue: 0,0:23:50.85,0:23:53.10,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that seems less than Christlike, Dialogue: 0,0:23:53.10,0:23:54.89,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,please pray for me. Dialogue: 0,0:23:54.89,0:23:58.53,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And I'm serious, because \NI know you do see that. Dialogue: 0,0:23:58.53,0:24:00.74,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,We see those things in one another. Dialogue: 0,0:24:00.74,0:24:03.31,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I beg you, pray for me when you see them. Dialogue: 0,0:24:03.31,0:24:06.07,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,(from the room)\NCan we rebuke you? Dialogue: 0,0:24:06.07,0:24:09.10,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,You can rebuke me too, but if \Nyou're going to rebuke me, Dialogue: 0,0:24:09.10,0:24:10.64,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,promise to pray for me. Dialogue: 0,0:24:10.64,0:24:14.11,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I'll let you rebuke me, \Nif you pray for me. Dialogue: 0,0:24:14.11,0:24:23.38,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I'll let you rebuke me otherwise... Dialogue: 0,0:24:23.38,0:24:28.30,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Ok, brethren, let's pray. Dialogue: 0,0:24:28.30,0:24:36.61,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Father, we thank You for Your Word. Dialogue: 0,0:24:36.61,0:24:39.16,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Lord, we want our fellowship with You Dialogue: 0,0:24:39.16,0:24:43.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to be unhindered, unclouded; Dialogue: 0,0:24:43.99,0:24:46.96,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Oh, we want the smile \Nof God upon our life. Dialogue: 0,0:24:46.96,0:24:48.85,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Lord, drive sin away from us. Dialogue: 0,0:24:48.85,0:24:53.20,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Lord, put a hatred within \Neach one of us for it. Dialogue: 0,0:24:53.20,0:24:56.96,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,May we detest it as Dialogue: 0,0:24:56.96,0:24:59.84,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the most detestable thing imaginable. Dialogue: 0,0:24:59.84,0:25:01.44,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Anything that would bring a cloud Dialogue: 0,0:25:01.44,0:25:03.29,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,between You and us, Dialogue: 0,0:25:03.29,0:25:05.83,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Oh, what fools we are! Dialogue: 0,0:25:05.83,0:25:09.04,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,To choose sin over You. Dialogue: 0,0:25:09.04,0:25:10.93,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Foolish. Dialogue: 0,0:25:10.93,0:25:12.35,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Deceived. Dialogue: 0,0:25:12.35,0:25:16.27,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Blind when we do that. Dialogue: 0,0:25:16.27,0:25:18.32,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,How wretched that we would ever Dialogue: 0,0:25:18.32,0:25:22.40,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,choose that which would mar Dialogue: 0,0:25:22.40,0:25:26.24,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,our fellowship with You. Dialogue: 0,0:25:26.24,0:25:28.38,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Oh, Lord, we want to be wise. Dialogue: 0,0:25:28.38,0:25:31.53,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,We want life more abundantly. Dialogue: 0,0:25:31.53,0:25:33.70,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Lord, give us the fullness of that life. Dialogue: 0,0:25:33.70,0:25:35.71,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Burden us, Lord, to pray for one another Dialogue: 0,0:25:35.71,0:25:37.26,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,all the more. Dialogue: 0,0:25:37.26,0:25:38.41,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,We pray in Jesus' name, Dialogue: 0,0:25:38.41,0:25:40.12,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Amen.