WEBVTT 00:00:00.089 --> 00:00:03.960 evening thank you for coming out to dc acm's may presentation 00:00:03.960 --> 00:00:06.030 on reinventing the Internet 00:00:06.030 --> 00:00:08.459 i'm andrew conkland cherokee cac_ m 00:00:08.459 --> 00:00:15.459 it's my pleasure to welcome you to google dc 00:00:15.909 --> 00:00:19.349 I'd like to take a moment here to think that people in the dissident possible 00:00:19.349 --> 00:00:22.949 starting with the car let anthony's and google pc 00:00:22.949 --> 00:00:27.220 I'd also like to think the chapter board for helping to put this on and 00:00:27.220 --> 00:00:28.699 all the communication they did 00:00:28.699 --> 00:00:30.800 in fact that lake all of them 00:00:30.800 --> 00:00:32.119 stand up right now 00:00:32.119 --> 00:00:36.500 to show who they are 00:00:36.500 --> 00:00:43.500 so feel free a 00:00:43.530 --> 00:00:49.040 uh... please be sure to grab one of a man to chat with him after this is over 00:00:49.040 --> 00:00:51.149 also that the bank Internet Society for 00:00:51.149 --> 00:00:52.900 uh... the live stream tonight 00:00:52.900 --> 00:00:55.110 and of course uh... the Internet 00:00:55.110 --> 00:00:58.110 for making this possible 00:00:58.110 --> 00:01:01.290 if not for the Internet we would be a running events through large 00:01:01.290 --> 00:01:02.910 bureaucratic committees 00:01:02.910 --> 00:01:04.050 snail mail 00:01:04.050 --> 00:01:05.559 and we would more than 00:01:05.559 --> 00:01:09.610 close we've more closely adhered to the by-laws of dc a cm 00:01:09.610 --> 00:01:16.230 uh... that's a half joke 00:01:16.230 --> 00:01:19.970 uh... the association for computing machinery or a cm dot org is an 00:01:19.970 --> 00:01:23.580 educational scientific computing society for academics and practitioners in 00:01:23.580 --> 00:01:24.950 computing 00:01:24.950 --> 00:01:28.280 it consists of international chapters conferences workshops 00:01:28.280 --> 00:01:30.510 special interest groups 00:01:30.510 --> 00:01:34.960 uh... professional development resources an additional library of white papers 00:01:34.960 --> 00:01:36.149 uh... our chapter 00:01:36.149 --> 00:01:37.900 are chapters focus is 00:01:37.900 --> 00:01:40.619 presented appear which is 00:01:40.619 --> 00:01:44.100 bringing uh... presentations from academic institutions 00:01:44.100 --> 00:01:46.260 uh... into the community 00:01:46.260 --> 00:01:48.320 professional development for appears 00:01:48.320 --> 00:01:55.320 and participation in the in our local community 00:02:00.520 --> 00:02:01.880 for the party 00:02:01.880 --> 00:02:05.530 term is almost up uh... this year and i want to talk a couple of couple 00:02:05.530 --> 00:02:06.640 highlights 00:02:06.640 --> 00:02:09.950 we've had some very interesting presentations in the past year 00:02:09.950 --> 00:02:12.569 here's a short list of them 00:02:12.569 --> 00:02:14.099 most recently computer vision with 00:02:14.099 --> 00:02:18.120 docked with doctor larry davis at the university of maryland 00:02:18.120 --> 00:02:20.079 very good talk uh... soft 00:02:20.079 --> 00:02:23.859 cleansing intrusion tolerance wasn't the one i had no idea about and that was 00:02:23.859 --> 00:02:25.199 about uh... 00:02:25.199 --> 00:02:27.159 virtual machines flops within 00:02:27.159 --> 00:02:29.779 within minutes and then it within forty five seconds 00:02:29.779 --> 00:02:36.249 with data persistence it was a very very compelling taught 00:02:36.249 --> 00:02:39.419 and then there's a couple others here knowledge discovery now analysis 00:02:39.419 --> 00:02:41.499 organizational social capital 00:02:41.499 --> 00:02:44.619 we also a little while back we had a dinner with richard solomon 00:02:44.619 --> 00:02:46.979 of the free software foundation 00:02:46.979 --> 00:02:53.979 that was so sick at dinner 00:02:54.009 --> 00:02:58.629 and now here's a couple of stats so the species yummy dot group we started about 00:02:58.629 --> 00:03:01.989 a year ago we now have forty porn twenty eight members 00:03:01.989 --> 00:03:04.889 there's another meet up group we've been running called bcn idols which is an 00:03:04.889 --> 00:03:06.090 after-hours 00:03:06.090 --> 00:03:07.659 working community 00:03:07.659 --> 00:03:09.620 self-starter meets once a week 00:03:09.620 --> 00:03:14.629 about a forty attendees we had a a congressman come out couple weeks ago 00:03:14.629 --> 00:03:18.999 is having us into uh... the capitol building com complex for core concession 00:03:18.999 --> 00:03:22.169 and there's a lot of interesting doers and salsa orders that are building 00:03:22.169 --> 00:03:24.599 business ventures 00:03:24.599 --> 00:03:26.789 hobbyists freelance 00:03:26.789 --> 00:03:28.709 and other committee other every week 00:03:28.709 --> 00:03:34.499 recommend checking it out 00:03:34.499 --> 00:03:37.819 and then from i three and a half years here helping with the cac_ emma have a 00:03:37.819 --> 00:03:40.959 couple of takeaways 00:03:40.959 --> 00:03:43.659 very obvious ones it would seem on paper 00:03:43.659 --> 00:03:45.870 uh... the first one is 00:03:45.870 --> 00:03:47.999 helped many people around you 00:03:47.999 --> 00:03:50.319 uh... through putting on talks in putting on professional development 00:03:50.319 --> 00:03:52.679 courses 00:03:52.679 --> 00:03:54.449 a lot of people benefit from it 00:03:54.449 --> 00:03:57.759 and you can do that through this chapter 00:03:57.759 --> 00:04:03.149 the more people people to help 00:04:03.149 --> 00:04:04.409 and you grow because of it 00:04:04.409 --> 00:04:07.719 suv that leads into the next slide 00:04:07.719 --> 00:04:08.949 which is 00:04:08.949 --> 00:04:09.750 called for 00:04:09.750 --> 00:04:12.589 she sees him board numbers candidates 00:04:12.589 --> 00:04:15.069 that santa and in a couple days 00:04:15.069 --> 00:04:19.199 and we are going to have our elections next month month as well 00:04:19.199 --> 00:04:22.289 and I'd like to take a moment here to secretly have a community announcement 00:04:22.289 --> 00:04:29.289 they'd like to make 00:04:30.149 --> 00:04:31.050 extender 00:04:31.050 --> 00:04:34.379 i put flyers out on the table out front this is for the 00:04:34.379 --> 00:04:38.759 university of maryland human-computer interaction a lab thirty s annual 00:04:38.759 --> 00:04:44.949 symposium coming up next week in college park ec aisles been doing leading edge 00:04:44.949 --> 00:04:49.059 interface work for decades ob engine item and found that the the lab it's now 00:04:49.059 --> 00:04:52.770 on its third fourth director it's a great event and the flyers out there if 00:04:52.770 --> 00:04:59.770 you can't get a flyer disability i olson posey 'em and you'll find a link to it 00:05:04.699 --> 00:05:06.259 administers the keller 00:05:06.259 --> 00:05:09.409 amanda ceo_ and founder of programming 00:05:09.409 --> 00:05:10.340 uh... it's a new 00:05:10.340 --> 00:05:13.690 all-female software training program in dc 00:05:13.690 --> 00:05:16.889 uh... cell and going to be hosting workshops 00:05:16.889 --> 00:05:19.560 and a full ten week uh... programming fellowship 00:05:19.560 --> 00:05:20.960 for women's learn 00:05:20.960 --> 00:05:25.099 on how to code in python so if anyone is interested in that town looking for 00:05:25.099 --> 00:05:26.740 supporters 00:05:26.740 --> 00:05:33.740 uh... hiring organizations and student self company after its just 00:05:36.050 --> 00:05:39.360 and jeff alexander i'm actually on the board all of the um... technology 00:05:39.360 --> 00:05:41.370 transfer society of dc 00:05:41.370 --> 00:05:45.120 and we're actually having an event at lunch on wednesday called code breakers 00:05:45.120 --> 00:05:50.410 include makers john hume into is a long time and please now as i will talk about 00:05:50.410 --> 00:05:53.569 those and other people involved in world war two 00:05:53.569 --> 00:05:59.400 code development and code breaking uh... in the war if that the nazis 00:05:59.400 --> 00:06:03.240 uh... lessons we can learn about how to manage innovation from that experience 00:06:03.240 --> 00:06:07.229 so it sat down southeast universe user universities association which is just 00:06:07.229 --> 00:06:11.439 over here up on a block away out google tech transfer society dc chapter no 00:06:11.439 --> 00:06:18.439 find thanks 00:06:21.009 --> 00:06:23.720 payments to a breeze a massive from dc government 00:06:23.720 --> 00:06:26.919 dc more nurses that helped support tech sector 00:06:26.919 --> 00:06:30.689 public original basin is that we've got to work with some terms here 00:06:30.689 --> 00:06:33.160 let me know if you have in a bit company or if you 00:06:33.160 --> 00:06:34.100 and 00:06:34.100 --> 00:06:41.100 sobered by the sponsors 00:06:46.650 --> 00:06:51.160 i'm mike nelson slumber government and i'm also very involved in society dc 00:06:51.160 --> 00:06:52.289 chapter 00:06:52.289 --> 00:06:53.639 we're very glad to be 00:06:53.639 --> 00:06:57.199 providing live streaming here but we're also wanted to announce that next 00:06:57.199 --> 00:07:01.389 thursday twenty-third morning we're doing an event at the center for 00:07:01.389 --> 00:07:06.210 strategic and international studies geopolitics Internet governance 00:07:06.210 --> 00:07:13.210 why other people want to take that away from us 00:07:20.310 --> 00:07:24.479 higham shown themselves and you know it's uh... to the community dc adjust 00:07:24.479 --> 00:07:27.650 general announcements we have some very interesting things going on one were 00:07:27.650 --> 00:07:28.680 working with 00:07:28.680 --> 00:07:32.049 uh... teach you to reduce so it's kind of exciting to do that 00:07:32.049 --> 00:07:35.869 and uh... we also have some interesting things going on we're working with 00:07:35.869 --> 00:07:37.979 partnering with the smithsonian soon 00:07:37.979 --> 00:07:41.230 uh... we uh... have a couple of that's coming up soon 00:07:41.230 --> 00:07:44.650 visit our data kennedy dc dot org page 00:07:44.650 --> 00:07:48.009 uh... we'd have 00:07:48.009 --> 00:07:50.530 so if i feel like the governor from texas 00:07:50.530 --> 00:07:52.639 i forgot 00:07:52.639 --> 00:07:59.639 but there's a lot of great lots going on there like you to check it 00:08:04.009 --> 00:08:05.229 pickett 00:08:05.229 --> 00:08:09.039 without a for the delay in its my own urge introduce tonight speaker 00:08:09.039 --> 00:08:12.269 dr irvine surface served as vice president chief Internet evangelists for 00:08:12.269 --> 00:08:14.459 google since october two thousand five 00:08:14.459 --> 00:08:18.809 surf is a former senior vice president technology strategy for mci_ 00:08:18.809 --> 00:08:22.459 widely known as one of the fathers of the Internet surf is the code designer 00:08:22.459 --> 00:08:26.239 of the t cpi_ p protocols in the architecture of the Internet 00:08:26.239 --> 00:08:29.609 he performed this work during his tenure with the us department of defense is 00:08:29.609 --> 00:08:32.010 advanced research projects agency 00:08:32.010 --> 00:08:35.380 surface acquired numerous uh... accolades over the years in ninety four 00:08:35.380 --> 00:08:39.200 he was listed in people magazine's twenty five most intriguing people 00:08:39.200 --> 00:08:42.000 ninety seven you received the us national medal of technology by 00:08:42.000 --> 00:08:43.130 president clinton 00:08:43.130 --> 00:08:44.960 two thousand for the cm 00:08:44.960 --> 00:08:46.400 during award 00:08:46.400 --> 00:08:50.530 two thousand five the presidential medal of freedom by president bush 00:08:50.530 --> 00:08:53.510 and twenty thirteen years appointed by president obama to serve on the national 00:08:53.510 --> 00:08:54.970 science port 00:08:54.970 --> 00:08:58.530 that doctor men served has either started chairs or is currently a fellow 00:08:58.530 --> 00:09:02.710 at virtually every reputable Internet technology related association on the 00:09:02.710 --> 00:09:06.460 planet 00:09:06.460 --> 00:09:10.550 if you're looking for a conversation starter ask him about leonard nimoy 00:09:10.550 --> 00:09:12.650 jet propulsion laboratory 00:09:12.650 --> 00:09:18.360 and what it's like to be married before the Internet existed 00:09:18.360 --> 00:09:20.520 ladies and gentlemen it's with great privilege 00:09:20.520 --> 00:09:23.730 i ask you please join me in welcoming the president of the association for 00:09:23.730 --> 00:09:25.250 computing machinery 00:09:25.250 --> 00:09:32.250 doctor vincent 00:09:34.120 --> 00:09:38.970 well thank you welcome to the uh... google bc daycare center coffee knows 00:09:38.970 --> 00:09:41.490 all the primary colors everything else 00:09:41.490 --> 00:09:47.350 uh... it's really pressure to really is it's a story for me started please that 00:09:47.350 --> 00:09:49.380 the uh... htm chapter 00:09:49.380 --> 00:09:52.309 came to us and yesterday was that possible 00:09:52.309 --> 00:09:54.910 and i certainly appreciate Internet society sound 00:09:54.910 --> 00:09:57.060 strain of this uh... activity 00:09:57.060 --> 00:10:00.370 uh... this is a special kind of event for me in a way because three of the 00:10:00.370 --> 00:10:04.310 organizations that i care a great deal about are represented here high stock 00:10:04.310 --> 00:10:05.540 service 00:10:05.540 --> 00:10:06.810 first president 00:10:06.810 --> 00:10:10.380 pcm racers current president 00:10:10.380 --> 00:10:14.170 uh... where i served as one of the past presidents of uh... means a lot to me to 00:10:14.170 --> 00:10:16.190 see all three of these organizations 00:10:16.190 --> 00:10:19.220 uh... collaborating together tonight's event 00:10:19.220 --> 00:10:22.910 uh... i thought i would mention one thing before the committee formal 00:10:22.910 --> 00:10:24.090 presentation 00:10:24.090 --> 00:10:27.640 uh... that nineteen ninety-four of people magazine thing was a bit of a 00:10:27.640 --> 00:10:31.780 surprise to me i don't quite know how the figured out that that was because 00:10:31.780 --> 00:10:37.360 Internet was not terribly widely known the general public it was 00:10:37.360 --> 00:10:39.940 this is world wide web site show up 00:10:39.940 --> 00:10:43.650 but uh... the irony of all this is that my wife 00:10:43.650 --> 00:10:46.160 lost her she was three 00:10:46.160 --> 00:10:50.540 got to call their implants won in ninety six and one in two thousand six ten 00:10:50.540 --> 00:10:51.710 years later 00:10:51.710 --> 00:10:56.000 her story a soldier manickam wonderfully compelling that they sent the photos 00:10:56.000 --> 00:11:00.580 came out for three days traffickers he got sixties people 00:11:00.580 --> 00:11:03.120 in nineteen ninety eight and that's always been the source of your 00:11:03.120 --> 00:11:08.880 suggestion in the house alone i haven't been able to get back in again 00:11:08.880 --> 00:11:10.760 seconds and what to do it 00:11:10.760 --> 00:11:14.220 mission is that uh... that you'll be pleased i hope to know 00:11:14.220 --> 00:11:17.530 that Internet and the world wide web have been rescued 00:11:17.530 --> 00:11:19.290 it's bright store 00:11:19.290 --> 00:11:23.030 uh... source as a major engineering achievement 00:11:23.030 --> 00:11:26.990 dot that we think of the ec internal organs being nobel prize in computer 00:11:26.990 --> 00:11:29.690 science but there isn't anything for engineering 00:11:29.690 --> 00:11:32.010 well system 00:11:32.010 --> 00:11:36.450 there is a queen elizabeth props for engineering it was uh... established 00:11:36.450 --> 00:11:37.650 last year 00:11:37.650 --> 00:11:38.640 is warranted 00:11:38.640 --> 00:11:41.240 every two years to uh... 00:11:41.240 --> 00:11:44.680 obtuse now up to five people originally up to three 00:11:44.680 --> 00:11:48.490 uh... but now it's up to five it's a one million pound crimes that's about a 00:11:48.490 --> 00:11:50.290 million and a half dollars 00:11:50.290 --> 00:11:54.210 by honda conversely mark increasing 00:11:54.210 --> 00:11:55.260 uh... 00:11:55.260 --> 00:11:56.610 leaders are 00:11:56.610 --> 00:11:59.640 all were announces winners of the first 00:11:59.640 --> 00:12:01.390 team field uh... 00:12:01.390 --> 00:12:02.950 hearing his 00:12:02.950 --> 00:12:04.680 and what is done 00:12:04.680 --> 00:12:06.100 very ironic is that 00:12:06.100 --> 00:12:11.820 my wife and are moving to london for six months it for uh... some work for global 00:12:11.820 --> 00:12:12.459 and 00:12:12.459 --> 00:12:13.730 less than a week 00:12:13.730 --> 00:12:16.530 after we arrived in 00:12:16.530 --> 00:12:19.950 we won't have lunch with the lord mayor of london 00:12:19.950 --> 00:12:23.940 we will go on it and still line with the prime minister 00:12:23.940 --> 00:12:26.379 then we will go house where we 00:12:26.379 --> 00:12:29.259 need queen elizabeth and she will be and each of us a check for two hundred 00:12:29.259 --> 00:12:30.710 thousand pairs 00:12:30.710 --> 00:12:33.590 and that's all 00:12:33.590 --> 00:12:34.450 threat 00:12:34.450 --> 00:12:41.450 is it work 00:12:41.770 --> 00:12:45.930 fun tonight when i thought i would do is just give you a sense for database of 00:12:45.930 --> 00:12:48.870 the current state of the Internet which most of you if you are very familiar 00:12:48.870 --> 00:12:49.740 with 00:12:49.740 --> 00:12:54.370 so the transit we can already see are happy to its only if occasions of those 00:12:54.370 --> 00:12:55.340 trends 00:12:55.340 --> 00:12:59.790 and then some of the problems places that we all have with him 00:12:59.790 --> 00:13:03.800 not only in interest and i feel responsible for pursuing 00:13:03.800 --> 00:13:06.660 let's let's start this was some simple statistics 00:13:06.660 --> 00:13:11.700 uh... these data rather out of date I'd andy organizations that have been 00:13:11.700 --> 00:13:16.350 producing them had not pleased to my knowledge produced anything more reason 00:13:16.350 --> 00:13:19.880 although the last time i was a couple weeks ago so that i could be wrote about 00:13:19.880 --> 00:13:20.800 that 00:13:20.800 --> 00:13:25.179 but the on nine hundred million devices that are visible on the net with uh... 00:13:25.179 --> 00:13:29.210 domain names and generally speaking fixed ip addresses are the servers 00:13:29.210 --> 00:13:33.220 that are on the system they don't count their laptops desktops and other things 00:13:33.220 --> 00:13:36.860 that are episodic reconnected if you add all those 00:13:36.860 --> 00:13:40.350 uh... then you're getting close to the two-and-a-half three billion devices of 00:13:40.350 --> 00:13:44.050 others in any way for us to actually you know that for sure there's no central 00:13:44.050 --> 00:13:48.150 registry for many that in terms of the number of users in mid year last year 00:13:48.150 --> 00:13:52.110 was two point four billion my guess is it could be easy to argue that there are 00:13:52.110 --> 00:13:54.450 three billion users now behind 00:13:54.450 --> 00:13:58.160 uh... it's all part of town because the six-and-a-half billion role models that 00:13:58.160 --> 00:13:59.290 are out there 00:13:59.290 --> 00:14:02.830 uh... some fraction may be on the order of twenty percent today and probably 00:14:02.830 --> 00:14:05.800 fifty or hundred-percent figures from them 00:14:05.800 --> 00:14:10.010 uh... will that help and support from capability and they'll be able to reach 00:14:10.010 --> 00:14:12.290 unity and so a lot of people 00:14:12.290 --> 00:14:14.710 are getting onto the Internet with their first experience 00:14:14.710 --> 00:14:17.790 from a while and for many of them may stay that way 00:14:17.790 --> 00:14:23.280 although as time goes on has cost them their as new technologies arise more and 00:14:23.280 --> 00:14:27.600 more people have multiple devices they can use to interact with the network 00:14:27.600 --> 00:14:31.500 so one meaning that I'd like to leave you with tonight is that i believe that 00:14:31.500 --> 00:14:32.380 our 00:14:32.380 --> 00:14:37.000 early uh... experience interacting with that one device at the time 00:14:37.000 --> 00:14:41.540 will change over time and that we will be using mobile devices concurrently 00:14:41.540 --> 00:14:43.290 to make use of the net i'm wearing blue 00:14:43.290 --> 00:14:46.760 glass today last is connected to the Internet 00:14:46.760 --> 00:14:52.730 uh... actor and often display keep being distracted but if i cap it on the side 00:14:52.730 --> 00:14:57.320 uh... it says uh... is waiting for me to say something so i'll say okay class 00:14:57.320 --> 00:14:59.110 take a picture 00:14:59.110 --> 00:15:02.360 it just took the pictures from the people here this is a voice-activated 00:15:02.360 --> 00:15:05.390 device intracranial read about it 00:15:05.390 --> 00:15:09.400 uh... we expect to have about with two thousand mountain news today were 00:15:09.400 --> 00:15:12.660 wrapping up to ten thousand by the end the year 00:15:12.660 --> 00:15:15.680 and then we don't 00:15:15.680 --> 00:15:20.350 they're not being sold directly people have to apply it may have to offer a a a 00:15:20.350 --> 00:15:24.070 description of what it is a proposed new what we're interested in doing is 00:15:24.070 --> 00:15:28.430 getting these in the hands of people actually investigators say applications 00:15:28.430 --> 00:15:33.020 uh... this week so essendon pay for the use of the fifteen hundred dollars each 00:15:33.020 --> 00:15:33.930 today 00:15:33.930 --> 00:15:37.460 I'd have no clue what it's going to look like in two thousand fourteen to one 00:15:37.460 --> 00:15:41.170 posted as the quantities increase the price p 00:15:41.170 --> 00:15:42.390 potentially come down 00:15:42.390 --> 00:15:46.400 so these are yet again another time device connected to the net and one 00:15:46.400 --> 00:15:51.650 thing and tonight's discussion is increasing number of m 00:15:51.650 --> 00:15:55.870 propriety of devices that are part of the Internet environment 00:15:55.870 --> 00:15:59.320 interesting statistic again this familiar last year 00:15:59.320 --> 00:16:02.090 is where people are we're using the net 00:16:02.090 --> 00:16:06.820 uh... ten years ago north america was absolutely gorgeous number of users and 00:16:06.820 --> 00:16:10.110 as penetration of stalinist penetration 00:16:10.110 --> 00:16:12.560 at slightly under uh... eighty percent 00:16:12.560 --> 00:16:16.530 but he said has the absolute large number of users in china has the largest 00:16:16.530 --> 00:16:20.540 number users pretty in any one country they have five hundred billion flight 00:16:20.540 --> 00:16:22.009 five hundred million people 00:16:22.009 --> 00:16:23.500 half a billion people 00:16:23.500 --> 00:16:28.830 are our online in china today that's the only on the order 00:16:28.830 --> 00:16:31.090 maybe four percent population 00:16:31.090 --> 00:16:34.060 so you can imagine what that look like when we get to 00:16:34.060 --> 00:16:37.380 eighty percent of several uh... more than a billion people 00:16:37.380 --> 00:16:42.740 on their china so it's interesting you know we hear all these stories about 00:16:42.740 --> 00:16:46.199 the chinese eh... attacks on the napkin 00:16:46.199 --> 00:16:49.440 sa which are presumably on true 00:16:49.440 --> 00:16:52.810 but at the same time is fair to note that the 00:16:52.810 --> 00:16:56.730 country is making a huge investment in building Internet infrastructure 00:16:56.730 --> 00:16:59.780 so one interesting question from the sociological point of view was what 00:16:59.780 --> 00:17:00.980 happens 00:17:00.980 --> 00:17:05.050 when they have this enormous fraction of the population although i know he will 00:17:05.050 --> 00:17:08.319 use the system it will be exchange information with each other 00:17:08.319 --> 00:17:09.860 how does that change 00:17:09.860 --> 00:17:14.480 the machines view and i don't know the answer to that but think this is and 00:17:14.480 --> 00:17:16.640 we're watching it very very interesting 00:17:16.640 --> 00:17:21.130 sociological experiment with technology taking place before our eyes this decade 00:17:21.130 --> 00:17:22.309 unfolds 00:17:22.309 --> 00:17:26.439 i think this is going to be among the more interesting affect student 00:17:26.439 --> 00:17:27.709 observed 00:17:27.709 --> 00:17:32.220 europe is the next four just in absolute number of users although you know 00:17:32.220 --> 00:17:36.250 there's a penetration rate is uh... below the north america 00:17:36.250 --> 00:17:39.610 but i've given up making any predictions about europe because they keep getting 00:17:39.610 --> 00:17:42.100 countries to the definition of europe 00:17:42.100 --> 00:17:44.900 change and i don't know what it looks like two years ago 00:17:44.900 --> 00:17:45.850 and the other side 00:17:45.850 --> 00:17:46.890 those who are the 00:17:46.890 --> 00:17:48.410 you can see 00:17:48.410 --> 00:17:50.670 that in africa we're still 00:17:50.670 --> 00:17:55.330 uh... only modestly penetrated this numbers is misleading though because i 00:17:55.330 --> 00:17:59.150 think that that we have seen a very rapid growth of mobile homes 00:17:59.150 --> 00:18:02.830 in africa i don't know what fraction of them are Internet cable 00:18:02.830 --> 00:18:06.620 probably cell fraction twenty percent thirty percent or something 00:18:06.620 --> 00:18:09.060 and what we're seeing is uh... 00:18:09.060 --> 00:18:11.690 individuals or small samples 00:18:11.690 --> 00:18:17.010 uh... willing to pay get on and network or at least again 00:18:17.010 --> 00:18:21.480 which is a significant fraction bearer monthly income 00:18:21.480 --> 00:18:24.600 and yet they they do this because of the time 00:18:24.600 --> 00:18:27.990 and so when people who make up stories about what people do with mobile phones 00:18:27.990 --> 00:18:28.950 in africa 00:18:28.950 --> 00:18:33.020 and they have things like you're getting prices in the city certainly figure 00:18:33.020 --> 00:18:34.940 hours starcraft best 00:18:34.940 --> 00:18:36.179 you know asap 00:18:36.179 --> 00:18:40.149 fact is that they're just slightly higher european social networking review 00:18:40.149 --> 00:18:41.550 all the other things we do 00:18:41.550 --> 00:18:44.890 of all the data rates that they have available or more limited so some things 00:18:44.890 --> 00:18:47.100 they don't drive streaming video 00:18:47.100 --> 00:18:48.910 until the data rates are adequate 00:18:48.910 --> 00:18:53.440 but their use is not terribly different than ours except order patients are on 00:18:53.440 --> 00:18:55.480 the whole conditions 00:18:55.480 --> 00:18:58.740 well this look now at the current Internet and see what's happening to 00:18:58.740 --> 00:19:03.460 uh... everybody determines well aware that we ran out of uh... conversion for 00:19:03.460 --> 00:19:04.740 interest rates 00:19:04.740 --> 00:19:07.520 in february of two thousand one 00:19:07.520 --> 00:19:10.410 and uh... that uh... was sort of um... 00:19:10.410 --> 00:19:14.070 i don't know that it was an embarrassment for box i mean there was a 00:19:14.070 --> 00:19:15.600 interesting surprised 00:19:15.600 --> 00:19:19.789 weblink refers to in the design in nineteen seventy three forty years ago 00:19:19.789 --> 00:19:22.730 and the question came up how how many addresses should be out on this 00:19:22.730 --> 00:19:24.980 experimental Internet 00:19:24.980 --> 00:19:28.710 it we didn't know the answer to that so we said well let's see 00:19:28.710 --> 00:19:32.450 how many computers will there be a per country 00:19:32.450 --> 00:19:36.200 at the time we were doing this machines we are using were big drinker machines 00:19:36.200 --> 00:19:39.760 we thought we could meet into any of those they take a boiler room in there 00:19:39.760 --> 00:19:42.049 expensive but we said let's go 00:19:42.049 --> 00:19:45.779 be crazy about we allocate twenty four bits of address space for the machine 00:19:45.779 --> 00:19:47.190 sixteen million 00:19:47.190 --> 00:19:51.300 you know what we thought was mainframes per country croats overjoyed 00:19:51.300 --> 00:19:53.310 billy said how many countries are there 00:19:53.310 --> 00:19:56.080 we didn't know there was no need to look it up 00:19:56.080 --> 00:19:57.850 sold stuff 00:19:57.850 --> 00:20:01.669 itself the weekly guest company cartoon 00:20:01.669 --> 00:20:04.770 so uh... added that he said well i mean 00:20:04.770 --> 00:20:08.390 it's already per country and i thought well just got the organ it wasn't 00:20:08.390 --> 00:20:10.279 exactly expensive yet 00:20:10.279 --> 00:20:12.380 so maybe they'll be cooper country 00:20:12.380 --> 00:20:16.720 you know it's worked for competition so we said twenty taxes two fifty six i 00:20:16.720 --> 00:20:18.580 take this plus twenty four 00:20:18.580 --> 00:20:19.810 thirty two-bit 00:20:19.810 --> 00:20:23.710 we actually debated late nineteen seventy seven just as the Internet 00:20:23.710 --> 00:20:27.930 protocols were being standardized whether we expanded our space what we 00:20:27.930 --> 00:20:31.730 wanted very awake addresses in the programmers hated the idea to sing waste 00:20:31.730 --> 00:20:35.179 computer seconds finding difficult in the packet because the gurgling 00:20:35.179 --> 00:20:36.400 to india 00:20:36.400 --> 00:20:39.230 uh... then somebody said how about our twenty-two 00:20:39.230 --> 00:20:43.170 address space at the time we were on a fifty to a bit backbone 00:20:43.170 --> 00:20:46.850 and the band frankly an awful lot of these changes were fully flex 00:20:46.850 --> 00:20:49.630 interactions character a character a complex 00:20:49.630 --> 00:20:51.540 it over again 00:20:51.540 --> 00:20:55.260 one character going back forth with two hundred fifty six bases source and 00:20:55.260 --> 00:20:56.740 destination address 00:20:56.740 --> 00:20:59.990 investment semi 00:20:59.990 --> 00:21:03.560 there was not there to visit enough we all have scared in the mid-nineteen 00:21:03.560 --> 00:21:07.850 ninety houston started uh... work on what was going to be calling png_ for 00:21:07.850 --> 00:21:09.260 next year 00:21:09.260 --> 00:21:10.850 eventually that uh... 00:21:10.850 --> 00:21:14.799 produce the ideally six address please bob blendon others has developed 00:21:14.799 --> 00:21:18.340 one hundred twenty eight bits and pieces sell in a very far away 00:21:18.340 --> 00:21:19.589 has been using 00:21:19.589 --> 00:21:20.960 are no Internet 00:21:20.960 --> 00:21:24.650 and tone down the production version is now open for any officially released on 00:21:24.650 --> 00:21:26.620 june sixth two thousand twelve 00:21:26.620 --> 00:21:30.590 i have favored a list of everyone of you if you will go to whichever eyes pe 00:21:30.590 --> 00:21:35.540 surprising with Internet address please and ask them what the jury piece explain 00:21:35.540 --> 00:21:37.890 when can i get i could be six this is important 00:21:37.890 --> 00:21:39.920 because it's very very slow 00:21:39.920 --> 00:21:44.280 in terms of penetration mostly because the irs_ user about terror 00:21:44.280 --> 00:21:47.490 a lot of their software is already capable routers havent 00:21:47.490 --> 00:21:51.830 ups_ devices have hiking he sticks to the ice peter turning out there saying 00:21:51.830 --> 00:21:52.299 in 00:21:52.299 --> 00:21:53.490 disingenuous 00:21:53.490 --> 00:21:58.700 nobody's asking for course and asking for ordered users don't know what he for 00:21:58.700 --> 00:21:59.950 eighty six it is 00:21:59.950 --> 00:22:01.470 mission hefty 00:22:01.470 --> 00:22:05.790 when you do and so if you will help us embarrass them or force in the too many 00:22:05.790 --> 00:22:09.210 people were asking for anything you want to thank you for that 00:22:09.210 --> 00:22:10.980 yeah uh... 00:22:10.980 --> 00:22:13.510 does try to explain what the implications of a hundred and twenty 00:22:13.510 --> 00:22:17.700 eight two dresses are remember saying time that that every electronic universe 00:22:17.700 --> 00:22:19.770 could have its own web page 00:22:19.770 --> 00:22:24.360 until somebody from cal tech blog renouncing got cancer futures teddy 00:22:24.360 --> 00:22:28.580 electrons in the universe in europe by fifty orders of magnitude 00:22:28.580 --> 00:22:30.560 so i don't say that anymore 00:22:30.560 --> 00:22:31.230 uh... yeah 00:22:31.230 --> 00:22:34.830 thing is happening is that the maintains its been bitten in latin characters you 00:22:34.830 --> 00:22:35.620 know 00:22:35.620 --> 00:22:38.340 can be written in dot characters in it 00:22:38.340 --> 00:22:39.820 using the income 00:22:39.820 --> 00:22:43.220 carousel which coming two hundred thousand more characters 00:22:43.220 --> 00:22:48.970 that same universities using html amex and all four of the web so that makes 00:22:48.970 --> 00:22:52.929 weapons meaning system much more compatible 00:22:52.929 --> 00:22:58.070 i cut hike in the Internet corporation for signings and overseas and initiated 00:22:58.070 --> 00:23:01.270 program of expansion of the generic top-level domains 00:23:01.270 --> 00:23:04.110 over two thousand applications were received 00:23:04.110 --> 00:23:09.010 for these units many or conflict because people saint martin's 00:23:09.010 --> 00:23:12.810 but uh... certainly on the order of fifteen hundred of them 00:23:12.810 --> 00:23:14.250 uh... are unique 00:23:14.250 --> 00:23:17.910 and the question you know it's which ones will actually become all registered 00:23:17.910 --> 00:23:20.950 as top-level domains that process is simple 00:23:20.950 --> 00:23:22.769 so this is a major expansion 00:23:22.769 --> 00:23:25.130 uh... the namespace 00:23:25.130 --> 00:23:29.750 belly all the standard any system has a number of or abilities 00:23:29.750 --> 00:23:33.300 uh... one of which is uh... poisoning of the uh... 00:23:33.300 --> 00:23:34.860 nameserver cash 00:23:34.860 --> 00:23:38.990 and so in order to get rid of borja geetac and inhibit out the effects of 00:23:38.990 --> 00:23:40.580 that kind of poison 00:23:40.580 --> 00:23:43.310 database system security uh... 00:23:43.310 --> 00:23:48.160 uh... architecture's being deployed basically it's just been reciting abhi 00:23:48.160 --> 00:23:51.010 binding between the two main ninety address 00:23:51.010 --> 00:23:56.710 so when you look up to translate you dress you can ask for site response 00:23:56.710 --> 00:23:58.630 if you get a correct response back 00:23:58.630 --> 00:24:01.390 such exim in cricket jackson 00:24:01.390 --> 00:24:02.710 uh... is uh... 00:24:02.710 --> 00:24:04.820 uh... matches what you expect 00:24:04.820 --> 00:24:08.870 then at least you have some confidence in the integrity of the bundy someone 00:24:08.870 --> 00:24:09.990 hasn't gone in 00:24:09.990 --> 00:24:13.659 modified that binding or factored into claims 00:24:13.659 --> 00:24:16.840 because they don't have the private tv would have been used to sign 00:24:16.840 --> 00:24:21.370 that cancer that's being deployed around the entire rooms and is signed 00:24:21.370 --> 00:24:24.660 and a number of the second radio talk over the means 00:24:24.660 --> 00:24:25.580 ourself 00:24:25.580 --> 00:24:28.330 and some of the second your side as well 00:24:28.330 --> 00:24:32.720 a similar idea uh... has come up with regard to the routing system 00:24:32.720 --> 00:24:36.390 no remember that this whole thing was developed in a time when it was mostly 00:24:36.390 --> 00:24:39.049 geeks who are doing work in a trust each other 00:24:39.049 --> 00:24:42.169 now we're in an environment where you can't do that anymore so it would have 00:24:42.169 --> 00:24:43.409 to retrofit 00:24:43.409 --> 00:24:45.430 mechanisms that will deal with 00:24:45.430 --> 00:24:47.480 possible components 00:24:47.480 --> 00:24:51.700 indication running system basically in order to become part of the net 00:24:51.700 --> 00:24:53.809 dissonant notes that you have 00:24:53.809 --> 00:24:58.360 you're responsible for keeping track of the address space total system number 00:24:58.360 --> 00:24:59.130 or 00:24:59.130 --> 00:25:02.370 and uh... my idea of this uh... 00:25:02.370 --> 00:25:03.760 spaces this 00:25:03.760 --> 00:25:06.960 and that propagates around through the routing system the problem is you come 00:25:06.960 --> 00:25:07.950 on 00:25:07.950 --> 00:25:11.740 and when you lie about this and you look like a somebody says estates 00:25:11.740 --> 00:25:15.800 in order to defend against that it has been proposed that night it implemented 00:25:15.800 --> 00:25:19.400 there we go with a similar kind of digital binding doing some reading 00:25:19.400 --> 00:25:21.470 between the eco-system number 00:25:21.470 --> 00:25:24.560 in the idea just based which it is responsible for 00:25:24.560 --> 00:25:27.360 so that when you're doing well and updates you can actually check to see 00:25:27.360 --> 00:25:31.630 where the parties use animals in the states actually has the authority 00:25:31.630 --> 00:25:35.090 there's some complexity this because not all routing announcements come from the 00:25:35.090 --> 00:25:35.880 edge 00:25:35.880 --> 00:25:39.720 they propagated through the net so some of the announcements are coming from 00:25:39.720 --> 00:25:42.680 and so you have to be able to verify that the whole chain 00:25:42.680 --> 00:25:45.030 announcement is actually down 00:25:45.030 --> 00:25:49.010 and so that makes it somewhat more complicated which is why hasn't been 00:25:49.010 --> 00:25:50.090 deployed yet 00:25:50.090 --> 00:25:53.070 it's in the process of being 00:25:53.070 --> 00:25:55.640 now i'm going to talk more about sensor networks 00:25:55.640 --> 00:26:00.250 the smartly program and mobile devices so this is just a reminder again 00:26:00.250 --> 00:26:04.490 in our Internet environment these treatments are rapidly 00:26:04.490 --> 00:26:05.769 uh... filling up 00:26:05.769 --> 00:26:06.760 system 00:26:06.760 --> 00:26:11.080 now we all anchor recognize that devices are showing up on the net i certainly 00:26:11.080 --> 00:26:12.610 had anticipated 00:26:12.610 --> 00:26:16.559 uh... he's actually uh... this is an order striking out the picture larry 00:26:16.559 --> 00:26:21.170 page where you go class as another Internet enabled device 00:26:21.170 --> 00:26:24.900 but i can remember being very surprised if somebody came in and said to me 00:26:24.900 --> 00:26:27.659 they had just ended an animal picture frame 00:26:27.659 --> 00:26:31.460 yet and i couldn't imagine what would that mean all i think it was it sounds 00:26:31.460 --> 00:26:35.010 as useless as a electric for kickball 00:26:35.010 --> 00:26:40.260 uh... but in fact it's obviously uh... very useful and many of us at the gym 00:26:40.260 --> 00:26:44.230 we have a wellesley upload or pictures to website pictures are downloaded into 00:26:44.230 --> 00:26:45.210 the 00:26:45.210 --> 00:26:46.490 with the end of the uh... 00:26:46.490 --> 00:26:48.250 Internet naval picture frame 00:26:48.250 --> 00:26:51.880 and we have an opportunity to watch what's going on in the family so it's 00:26:51.880 --> 00:26:56.730 kind of a crude form of uh... a little closer face book inouye insist personal 00:26:56.730 --> 00:27:00.150 its opponents actually rather nice for the grandparents because he can upload 00:27:00.150 --> 00:27:02.120 pictures of the grandchildren 00:27:02.120 --> 00:27:03.390 nieces and nephews 00:27:03.390 --> 00:27:06.810 and see what they're doing bellevue way this works you know who is in the 00:27:06.810 --> 00:27:11.320 downloads the frame down those images from some website so now securities 00:27:11.320 --> 00:27:14.780 issue because of the website gets hacked the grandparents may see pictures of 00:27:14.780 --> 00:27:16.870 what we hope is not the grand jury 00:27:16.870 --> 00:27:22.299 so now we have to worry about insecurity at home as well as it org 00:27:22.299 --> 00:27:25.410 uh... there are things that look like telephones that are really voice over at 00:27:25.410 --> 00:27:26.670 the devices 00:27:26.670 --> 00:27:30.639 uh... the guy in the middle has built an Internet enabled surfboard 00:27:30.639 --> 00:27:34.929 uh... i don't know about how did it and send him water waiting for the next wave 00:27:34.929 --> 00:27:39.260 thinking you know i had a laptop myself or it could be surfing the Internet away 00:27:39.260 --> 00:27:42.030 let's let's do it as a laptop in this report 00:27:42.030 --> 00:27:45.840 and uh... and then go for the wifi service back to the rescue check on the 00:27:45.840 --> 00:27:46.450 beach 00:27:46.450 --> 00:27:48.100 myself as a surprise 00:27:48.100 --> 00:27:51.660 so if you want to go surf the net while you're aware this is for you 00:27:51.660 --> 00:27:55.250 paisa tells us that everyone over the world will someday have an idea dress 00:27:55.250 --> 00:27:59.450 and i can tell jokes about that anymore because somebody sent me and ideally six 00:27:59.450 --> 00:28:00.910 radio naval 00:28:00.910 --> 00:28:02.700 led_ whitehall 00:28:02.700 --> 00:28:04.120 uh... and works 00:28:04.120 --> 00:28:07.530 uh... i have a a tv sets at work writing in the house and you can turn 00:28:07.530 --> 00:28:09.980 the lights are but that will get it 00:28:09.980 --> 00:28:13.409 uh... the interesting thing is that uh... 00:28:13.409 --> 00:28:14.100 this 00:28:14.100 --> 00:28:17.090 no one can you turn it off green collars programmer 00:28:17.090 --> 00:28:19.440 you can interrogate find out 00:28:19.440 --> 00:28:22.309 so these sorts of things are becoming reality 00:28:22.309 --> 00:28:23.809 so if you on 00:28:23.809 --> 00:28:28.160 have only imagine this is a science fiction of speculation it is not 00:28:28.160 --> 00:28:31.460 are in fact uh... you know i just realized something 00:28:31.460 --> 00:28:35.760 he'd seen inside hiding behind it 00:28:35.760 --> 00:28:38.899 okay hiking 00:28:38.899 --> 00:28:40.160 uh... 00:28:40.160 --> 00:28:42.620 so uh... this is my sense is that at home 00:28:42.620 --> 00:28:47.039 uh... this is an iv six radio net it's uh... commercial pops is not mean that 00:28:47.039 --> 00:28:49.649 in the garage over the side of him 00:28:49.649 --> 00:28:51.929 uh... the communities is on trial 00:28:51.929 --> 00:28:55.130 which is a partner at cisco systems a couple of years ago 00:28:55.130 --> 00:28:58.850 scissor site all wingers 00:28:58.850 --> 00:29:00.170 their sampling 00:29:00.170 --> 00:29:01.500 the uh... 00:29:01.500 --> 00:29:03.020 uh... like level 00:29:03.020 --> 00:29:05.990 humidity and temperature in each room in the house 00:29:05.990 --> 00:29:07.310 every five minutes 00:29:07.310 --> 00:29:11.510 and that is propagated through this network sensors so the sensors are 00:29:11.510 --> 00:29:13.590 actually store forward realize 00:29:13.590 --> 00:29:15.260 they're running six votes 00:29:15.260 --> 00:29:17.710 and i i p e six on top of that 00:29:17.710 --> 00:29:21.840 and so the date is accumulated in the server an interactive based 00:29:21.840 --> 00:29:26.380 so you're only he can do this right dot and my father once that is the end of 00:29:26.380 --> 00:29:29.790 the year i will have very good information about how well he had been 00:29:29.790 --> 00:29:32.140 awake and air conditioning 00:29:32.140 --> 00:29:34.539 instead of anecdotal information may have 00:29:34.539 --> 00:29:37.230 real uh... engineering data story 00:29:37.230 --> 00:29:38.929 is an engineering like that 00:29:38.929 --> 00:29:41.190 now one of the house is the one side 00:29:41.190 --> 00:29:45.729 so that one is a log as the temperature goes above sixty degrees fahrenheit 00:29:45.729 --> 00:29:49.480 i get 'em uh... nasa now some of the laptop 00:29:49.480 --> 00:29:50.970 what is warming up 00:29:50.970 --> 00:29:52.660 i remember going into love 00:29:52.660 --> 00:29:55.970 lawrence not little argonne national laboratory 00:29:55.970 --> 00:29:59.440 effort three day visit just as i was walking into the building all of those 00:29:59.440 --> 00:30:01.649 opportunities dot com 00:30:01.649 --> 00:30:06.029 uh... you know that you just broke into the sixties resign barrier no one was 00:30:06.029 --> 00:30:07.330 home at the time 00:30:07.330 --> 00:30:10.760 and so every five minutes for the next three days i kept getting this little 00:30:10.760 --> 00:30:13.010 message the airline is winding up 00:30:13.010 --> 00:30:16.940 so i called your truck guys they said you have remote actuators he said yes 00:30:16.940 --> 00:30:19.740 they say they have strong authentication on them because i have a 00:30:19.740 --> 00:30:22.620 fifteen-year-old next door to go on and messing with my 00:30:22.620 --> 00:30:26.929 wine cellar and he said yes so that's the weekend project to install 00:30:26.929 --> 00:30:30.090 benedetto thinking you know i can probably tell somebody has gone into the 00:30:30.090 --> 00:30:33.429 winds are blowing away cuz i can see the lexicon of her 00:30:33.429 --> 00:30:35.620 but i don't know what they didn't care 00:30:35.620 --> 00:30:37.970 so ok solution to this 00:30:37.970 --> 00:30:41.030 is to put our fit_ chips on the spot 00:30:41.030 --> 00:30:45.770 what then i can do an instantaneous inventory to see that is why it is what 00:30:45.770 --> 00:30:47.990 the seller without my permission 00:30:47.990 --> 00:30:49.910 and down I'd miss it 00:30:49.910 --> 00:30:53.650 describing this look brilliant design you and your friends and he told me 00:30:53.650 --> 00:30:55.110 there was about 00:30:55.110 --> 00:30:58.500 i said winning is about to see what you can go into the wine cellar red wine and 00:30:58.500 --> 00:31:03.610 leave the bob so now we have to put sensors in the court 00:31:03.610 --> 00:31:07.200 and if i was reading that we might as well sent esters to find out whether one 00:31:07.200 --> 00:31:11.330 is ready to drink so before you on the bottle he would carry the court 00:31:11.330 --> 00:31:14.890 and if that's the bala got thirty year issue something that's the one that 00:31:14.890 --> 00:31:19.090 you're doing awesome cuz he doesn't know the difference 00:31:19.090 --> 00:31:23.220 not actually out this sort of thing is going to be very common 00:31:23.220 --> 00:31:25.050 not so everyone's on the part 00:31:25.050 --> 00:31:29.000 although if i i i had someone come out with in prime time 00:31:29.000 --> 00:31:31.480 are fit_ done 00:31:31.480 --> 00:31:35.600 uh... yeah apa spartan tanks and we actually wandered around my cell and we 00:31:35.600 --> 00:31:38.640 picked up every single lots of exactly 00:31:38.640 --> 00:31:41.050 this is not it's not a crazy idea 00:31:41.050 --> 00:31:44.570 uh... the thing is that we will have sensor networks and use them for 00:31:44.570 --> 00:31:47.330 environmental control isn't for security 00:31:47.330 --> 00:31:51.020 will use them for variety of things to only 00:31:51.020 --> 00:31:54.480 residence or business or manufacturing facility 00:31:54.480 --> 00:31:56.830 jimmy management control 00:31:56.830 --> 00:32:02.310 some of these things will be very much a part of the union 00:32:02.310 --> 00:32:07.420 now there's an interesting question i'm going to use the sensor network 00:32:07.420 --> 00:32:09.590 as it's cool 00:32:09.590 --> 00:32:12.340 walking us through bunch of questions 00:32:12.340 --> 00:32:14.750 now the questions are very specific to 00:32:14.750 --> 00:32:16.720 the notion of sensor network 00:32:16.720 --> 00:32:21.450 architecture m large numbers of devices that have to be configured and access 00:32:21.450 --> 00:32:22.600 control 00:32:22.600 --> 00:32:24.379 but i want to as we go through 00:32:24.379 --> 00:32:25.950 this particular 00:32:25.950 --> 00:32:28.980 discussion i want you to be thinking generally about 00:32:28.980 --> 00:32:32.400 Internet enable appliances are all kinds 00:32:32.400 --> 00:32:35.020 having maybe managed and controlled 00:32:35.020 --> 00:32:37.670 and wanting them to be 00:32:37.670 --> 00:32:43.649 isolated from parties to might want to use them for and nefarious purposes 00:32:43.649 --> 00:32:46.850 anything that we don't want is the headline that says 00:32:46.850 --> 00:32:50.850 that there was a get distributed denial of service attack 00:32:50.850 --> 00:32:54.830 against bank of america by every refrigerator in america 00:32:54.830 --> 00:32:58.889 accel we need to be able to think of ways through 00:32:58.889 --> 00:33:01.800 how he will configure install 00:33:01.800 --> 00:33:02.729 offering 00:33:02.729 --> 00:33:03.840 protect 00:33:03.840 --> 00:33:05.420 uh... and also move 00:33:05.420 --> 00:33:09.290 move from one place and others to imagine that you take your places with 00:33:09.290 --> 00:33:10.220 you 00:33:10.220 --> 00:33:12.260 they have idea dresses and 00:33:12.260 --> 00:33:15.140 meeting that will be a new life he addresses when they were installed new 00:33:15.140 --> 00:33:19.220 residents how we do all of that 00:33:19.220 --> 00:33:21.710 expecting every single 00:33:21.710 --> 00:33:23.270 could become an expert 00:33:23.270 --> 00:33:27.100 in configuring nike devices they shouldn't have to do that you have to 00:33:27.100 --> 00:33:28.649 know anything about 00:33:28.649 --> 00:33:29.990 and so 00:33:29.990 --> 00:33:34.030 what they remove series of design and operational should there be single 00:33:34.030 --> 00:33:34.999 controller 00:33:34.999 --> 00:33:39.300 for all the devices should there be a controller for each class of the bonds 00:33:39.300 --> 00:33:42.750 how should we in device u 00:33:42.750 --> 00:33:44.939 connect up with the poultry controller 00:33:44.939 --> 00:33:49.909 one of your apartment building and endure controller detects devices that 00:33:49.909 --> 00:33:51.679 are in the into an apartment 00:33:51.679 --> 00:33:55.700 this is certainly a great we probably have with that 00:33:55.700 --> 00:33:59.830 uh... electric blanket where the two parties have the control switch 00:33:59.830 --> 00:34:03.760 was turning up to get warmer the others turning down a bit cooler aggressive 00:34:03.760 --> 00:34:05.149 across the net 00:34:05.149 --> 00:34:09.369 uh... so this is their these questions that are actually pretty hard 00:34:09.369 --> 00:34:12.739 and i think some of us are going to have to figure out what's the right way to do 00:34:12.739 --> 00:34:13.269 it 00:34:13.269 --> 00:34:15.179 problem for the on wireless 00:34:15.179 --> 00:34:19.059 well depending on where they were installed you may or may not have been 00:34:19.059 --> 00:34:21.940 radio connectivity even just inside the house 00:34:21.940 --> 00:34:25.350 so some of them i have to be wired summary wireless employees different 00:34:25.350 --> 00:34:26.649 frequencies 00:34:26.649 --> 00:34:29.149 now this is easy and every device 00:34:29.149 --> 00:34:32.799 that is sold to be part of the sensor s 00:34:32.799 --> 00:34:36.119 so i have to be adaptable to different conditions depending 00:34:36.119 --> 00:34:38.679 once found a place for install 00:34:38.679 --> 00:34:40.220 uh... on the factory floor 00:34:40.220 --> 00:34:44.329 uh... there are similar kinds of scale questions that occurred once again very 00:34:44.329 --> 00:34:45.269 important 00:34:45.269 --> 00:34:46.700 to make sure that the user 00:34:46.700 --> 00:34:50.379 control only by parties that have the authority to do that you don't want 00:34:50.379 --> 00:34:53.509 some random person halfway around the world turned on 00:34:53.509 --> 00:34:56.629 in manufacturing device and possibly or 00:34:56.629 --> 00:34:58.089 one of the workers 00:34:58.089 --> 00:35:01.339 uh... they are the question is whether the devices interact with each other 00:35:01.339 --> 00:35:04.559 whether they'll be directly nationalized 00:35:04.559 --> 00:35:07.999 and here we get into the interesting example one of the art rock system where 00:35:07.999 --> 00:35:10.129 the devices are released for jun 00:35:10.129 --> 00:35:11.199 in addition 00:35:11.199 --> 00:35:13.149 providing uh... 00:35:13.149 --> 00:35:15.459 censored 00:35:15.459 --> 00:35:16.869 census data 00:35:16.869 --> 00:35:18.269 process today 00:35:18.269 --> 00:35:21.260 uh... and then uh... providing it to some 00:35:21.260 --> 00:35:22.219 king lear 00:35:22.219 --> 00:35:25.379 but they also are part of that work which is something to happen 00:35:25.379 --> 00:35:27.709 uh... to uh... local radio condition 00:35:27.709 --> 00:35:28.890 so on 00:35:28.890 --> 00:35:29.950 this is an d 00:35:29.950 --> 00:35:33.079 the questions or almost endless 00:35:33.079 --> 00:35:34.949 here's some more here 00:35:34.949 --> 00:35:36.839 and decide what ideas 00:35:36.839 --> 00:35:41.399 they should have you generate the state using ninety b six presumably because 00:35:41.399 --> 00:35:43.059 before useful 00:35:43.059 --> 00:35:44.449 but there is a 00:35:44.449 --> 00:35:46.729 a question about previous should be 00:35:46.729 --> 00:35:49.079 what you have this is the 00:35:49.079 --> 00:35:51.130 another remembered 00:35:51.130 --> 00:35:55.160 we're out of discovery online discover other devices that are part of the 00:35:55.160 --> 00:35:55.989 system 00:35:55.989 --> 00:35:59.939 uh... some of you will know a little bit about convoluted system works if you use 00:35:59.939 --> 00:36:02.099 it you know that we can devices are 00:36:02.099 --> 00:36:04.019 in close enough proximity 00:36:04.019 --> 00:36:05.610 uh... one of them were 00:36:05.610 --> 00:36:07.369 present 00:36:07.369 --> 00:36:10.749 which you you enter into the other one in order to confirm that you want to do 00:36:10.749 --> 00:36:11.869 my cv 00:36:11.869 --> 00:36:16.709 connected now the question is whether every device in this garment is uh... 00:36:16.709 --> 00:36:19.159 hazardous waste even though we were not 00:36:19.159 --> 00:36:22.009 and if it doesn't mean we start thinking or hawaii 00:36:22.009 --> 00:36:25.989 how to manage these things and it could be the journal while becomes the devices 00:36:25.989 --> 00:36:30.559 used not only to control and that also to configure 00:36:30.559 --> 00:36:34.619 and so I'd be in the possibilities here are fairly uh... 00:36:34.619 --> 00:36:35.959 complex 00:36:35.959 --> 00:36:39.420 and we're gonna have to figure out how to make that work 00:36:39.420 --> 00:36:43.589 what about what to it's very attracted to be a little website 00:36:43.589 --> 00:36:48.559 and say i would like to using uh... webpage diminish my devices 00:36:48.559 --> 00:36:50.859 and if we standardize things properly 00:36:50.859 --> 00:36:55.489 then third parties will be able to offer service to manager systems fourteen 00:36:55.489 --> 00:36:58.189 think about entertainment you know about you 00:36:58.189 --> 00:37:02.089 i have lots of boxes at home and have infrared controllers for 00:37:02.089 --> 00:37:05.139 and usually i fumble around for a while trying to figure out which controllers 00:37:05.139 --> 00:37:06.759 the right one for which box 00:37:06.759 --> 00:37:10.389 and when i finally got that right that's the controller that bad 00:37:10.389 --> 00:37:13.230 so if we put all of them are going well network 00:37:13.230 --> 00:37:16.510 and we use the mobile which is also a little old man is the controller of the 00:37:16.510 --> 00:37:19.099 things that happen can be in court 00:37:19.099 --> 00:37:23.809 uh... then that means third parties intervenes english if you'll allow them 00:37:23.809 --> 00:37:27.180 would be the manager of the devices and all you do is go to the web sites and 00:37:27.180 --> 00:37:30.529 what the sound of movies please populate all various devices 00:37:30.529 --> 00:37:32.510 which is entertainment country 00:37:32.510 --> 00:37:34.129 is of interest to me 00:37:34.129 --> 00:37:37.650 so out is just incredibly uh... 00:37:37.650 --> 00:37:40.499 rich character what about state information 00:37:40.499 --> 00:37:42.769 if you have uh... 00:37:42.769 --> 00:37:45.089 things that are are gathering data about 00:37:45.089 --> 00:37:49.619 the temperature humidity levels in my case or other things about house 00:37:49.619 --> 00:37:52.320 you may be able to infer whether anybody's at home 00:37:52.320 --> 00:37:53.879 how many people were home 00:37:53.879 --> 00:37:54.770 uh... went up 00:37:54.770 --> 00:37:58.299 in the morning on active depending on what information is available 00:37:58.299 --> 00:38:01.519 that could pose a security hazard 00:38:01.519 --> 00:38:04.039 especially if they can't figure out nobody's home 00:38:04.039 --> 00:38:07.759 so again this is a question of what information should be available 00:38:07.759 --> 00:38:11.229 who should have access to it and control that 00:38:11.229 --> 00:38:17.369 so there's just goes it's a long long listed updates that we're cope with 00:38:17.369 --> 00:38:20.119 here's another interesting things that are part of 00:38:20.119 --> 00:38:24.469 uh... typically cable provider configures these things up for you 00:38:24.469 --> 00:38:27.219 uh... and it operates the controller forty 00:38:27.219 --> 00:38:31.139 and offers web access is uh... sheila to control the system 00:38:31.139 --> 00:38:34.619 and if so how boxes of these on american interact with each other like charity 00:38:34.619 --> 00:38:35.839 art 00:38:35.839 --> 00:38:40.529 so that's a common example but one thing what happens if we transform decency 00:38:40.529 --> 00:38:43.199 devices there i could be sixty 00:38:43.199 --> 00:38:46.169 and they have the ability to reach out and use the Internet in addition to 00:38:46.169 --> 00:38:47.230 everything else 00:38:47.230 --> 00:38:48.499 now they become 00:38:48.499 --> 00:38:52.579 since it could be streaming video from other sources sending cable television 00:38:52.579 --> 00:38:53.479 company 00:38:53.479 --> 00:38:57.349 and that interestingly enough creates a conflict right because the cable tv 00:38:57.349 --> 00:39:00.449 guide supplying him with broadband access to the Internet 00:39:00.449 --> 00:39:01.599 discovers that 00:39:01.599 --> 00:39:05.349 you're using the broadband Internet to get access to somebody else's video 00:39:05.349 --> 00:39:07.469 which messes up your business model 00:39:07.469 --> 00:39:11.229 which leads to a possible or desire to prevent you from getting video from 00:39:11.229 --> 00:39:12.799 anybody but damn 00:39:12.799 --> 00:39:16.849 back isn't in the calendar dates and everything else is a very quickly 00:39:16.849 --> 00:39:20.499 as we pursue these technical problems we also cover 00:39:20.499 --> 00:39:21.749 uh... an honors 00:39:21.749 --> 00:39:24.659 various policy issues that have to be resolved 00:39:24.659 --> 00:39:27.559 uh... and i've already talked about your chocolate 00:39:27.559 --> 00:39:30.289 so uh... or the other 00:39:30.289 --> 00:39:32.589 question is diversity in uniformity 00:39:32.589 --> 00:39:36.009 uh... one uniformity is really helpful because it allows you to your 00:39:36.009 --> 00:39:37.299 opportunity 00:39:37.299 --> 00:39:40.869 diversity dot is important because you want to be able to trying new things and 00:39:40.869 --> 00:39:44.209 figuring out how to cope with both of us at the same time 00:39:44.209 --> 00:39:46.170 up to be true 00:39:46.170 --> 00:39:49.809 this part of it is a program was started by the department of commerce department 00:39:49.809 --> 00:39:51.849 of energy about four years ago 00:39:51.849 --> 00:39:57.009 and their initial focus was to create margaret interoperability panel 00:39:57.009 --> 00:39:58.579 to encourage 00:39:58.579 --> 00:40:01.730 standards for the devices that are part of a smart grid 00:40:01.730 --> 00:40:05.789 so they can be managed to they could respond for example to it by saying 00:40:05.789 --> 00:40:07.649 that uh... 00:40:07.649 --> 00:40:11.519 the uh... power grid was reaching people and would you please let me go water 00:40:11.519 --> 00:40:13.869 earlier condition for a while 00:40:13.869 --> 00:40:18.199 this is important because the ability to control world was not billed 00:40:18.199 --> 00:40:22.349 capacity excess capacity that's only a small percentage of time 00:40:22.349 --> 00:40:24.899 and so that's a good or thrilled 00:40:24.899 --> 00:40:28.410 capability disability sake please don't use electricity 00:40:28.410 --> 00:40:32.180 but you also have the opportunity to get to report back on which devices were 00:40:32.180 --> 00:40:35.029 used during the course in montana element 00:40:35.029 --> 00:40:38.339 now tell you something about my record that was what it is and that feedback 00:40:38.339 --> 00:40:39.419 loop 00:40:39.419 --> 00:40:42.680 is what helps us decide whether we change our lifestyle 00:40:42.680 --> 00:40:46.290 possibly for economic reasons are really just care about the environment we want 00:40:46.290 --> 00:40:47.989 to change or 00:40:47.989 --> 00:40:48.869 abuse 00:40:48.869 --> 00:40:50.899 electricity for example 00:40:50.899 --> 00:40:54.729 so again a whole series of issues associated with smartly program that or 00:40:54.729 --> 00:40:55.959 not 00:40:55.959 --> 00:40:58.909 uh... once was the sensor networks except one thing you should really 00:40:58.909 --> 00:41:00.099 different 00:41:00.099 --> 00:41:02.469 up until uh... recently 00:41:02.469 --> 00:41:06.150 most of the car generated in the united states essentially generated in 00:41:06.150 --> 00:41:08.239 distributed over collins 00:41:08.239 --> 00:41:12.049 without reaching a point where we are capable putting generation capability to 00:41:12.049 --> 00:41:13.649 be adjusted 00:41:13.649 --> 00:41:18.059 and he gets even more dramatic when you go from this photovoltaic candidate 00:41:18.059 --> 00:41:20.419 manpower possibly view 00:41:20.419 --> 00:41:21.459 thermal 00:41:21.459 --> 00:41:25.149 uh... as a generators of electricity in your home 00:41:25.149 --> 00:41:27.960 now it's more again electric cars 00:41:27.960 --> 00:41:29.389 make began 00:41:29.389 --> 00:41:33.209 so now you have the possibility no holding power out of the system recharge 00:41:33.209 --> 00:41:36.959 cars were pushing power into the system that i want to think about control 00:41:36.959 --> 00:41:38.839 theory if you put it in school 00:41:38.839 --> 00:41:42.630 it gets more complicated systems that will push and pull at the city 00:41:42.630 --> 00:41:45.619 at you know at the same time 00:41:45.619 --> 00:41:47.479 problem that we are 00:41:47.479 --> 00:41:48.819 independently 00:41:48.819 --> 00:41:52.309 uh... every or every household united states is either generating electricity 00:41:52.309 --> 00:41:53.729 reporting electricity 00:41:53.729 --> 00:41:56.159 hideouts assistant like that 00:41:56.159 --> 00:41:59.209 and so if you're interested in some of the thinking about that look at my 00:41:59.209 --> 00:42:00.359 grades 00:42:00.359 --> 00:42:04.459 uh... google search on that because the ideas artists consider actually just 00:42:04.459 --> 00:42:05.429 really 00:42:05.429 --> 00:42:07.300 electrical power generation farther 00:42:07.300 --> 00:42:09.479 so that we live so dependent on one 00:42:09.479 --> 00:42:11.619 uh... singles samples solely 00:42:11.619 --> 00:42:17.549 in a particular area simply right before it was in all kinds of people here 00:42:17.549 --> 00:42:20.930 this vote leads me to one other thing about uh... 00:42:20.930 --> 00:42:25.179 Internet him thing that uh... like uh... mentioned earlier about 00:42:25.179 --> 00:42:26.559 policy 00:42:26.559 --> 00:42:28.690 for the big issues that we have today 00:42:28.690 --> 00:42:29.859 is that 00:42:29.859 --> 00:42:31.099 there are 00:42:31.099 --> 00:42:32.089 countries 00:42:32.089 --> 00:42:35.599 this see how important the Internet is but they're nervous about it because 00:42:35.599 --> 00:42:36.690 they have since 00:42:36.690 --> 00:42:39.849 democratic ability to let people share information 00:42:39.849 --> 00:42:41.190 and for some data 00:42:41.190 --> 00:42:44.019 authoritarian regimes that's a threat 00:42:44.019 --> 00:42:47.190 we've seen the outcomes for example in europe spring 00:42:47.190 --> 00:42:50.060 I'd like to emphasize something for you mean some people were pounding their 00:42:50.060 --> 00:42:54.180 chests and looking uh... Internet was that part of or face book and others 00:42:54.180 --> 00:42:54.819 were 00:42:54.819 --> 00:42:57.099 part of the air strain is wonderful 00:42:57.099 --> 00:43:01.039 except the outcomes revolutions don't always come out where you would like 00:43:01.039 --> 00:43:04.399 and right now we're seeing some pretty difficult problems in egypt for example 00:43:04.399 --> 00:43:07.959 in libya for example in syria for example 00:43:07.959 --> 00:43:10.300 uh... he changes of the 00:43:10.300 --> 00:43:11.690 places where the 00:43:11.690 --> 00:43:16.689 the arabs friends started teenage is probably one which is happy 00:43:16.689 --> 00:43:21.369 i don't use the word placid exactly but it was more stable 00:43:21.369 --> 00:43:24.449 regime change for the others have been very very difficult 00:43:24.449 --> 00:43:28.859 so i want to be careful not to 00:43:28.859 --> 00:43:33.059 the role of the Internet analysts as if it is uniformly positive 00:43:33.059 --> 00:43:37.719 you have to be really thoughtful about how you recover from major rethinking 00:43:37.719 --> 00:43:39.539 but what this is like to 00:43:39.539 --> 00:43:40.920 is a real debate about 00:43:40.920 --> 00:43:41.759 uh... what 00:43:41.759 --> 00:43:45.379 role governments have in the control of the Internet 00:43:45.379 --> 00:43:47.900 for all of us uh... in the Internet world 00:43:47.900 --> 00:43:51.850 uh... historically we've seen this is a very violent thing multiple stakeholders 00:43:51.850 --> 00:43:52.949 are 00:43:52.949 --> 00:43:54.339 interested him 00:43:54.339 --> 00:43:56.319 making decisions about policy 00:43:56.319 --> 00:43:59.339 they're the ones that are affected by whether it's a technical community the 00:43:59.339 --> 00:44:00.509 general public 00:44:00.509 --> 00:44:01.829 civil society 00:44:01.829 --> 00:44:04.069 the government's the private sector 00:44:04.069 --> 00:44:06.789 are all having equal state 00:44:06.789 --> 00:44:09.649 him what happens in the policy many 00:44:09.649 --> 00:44:13.009 and yet many of the intergovernmental institutions like the international 00:44:13.009 --> 00:44:14.630 telecommunications union 00:44:14.630 --> 00:44:17.779 see this is the province of governments to make policy 00:44:17.779 --> 00:44:22.829 and uh... this is a place where there's plenty of opportunity for intervention 00:44:22.829 --> 00:44:26.789 they world summit on the information society which began in two thousand 00:44:26.789 --> 00:44:28.109 three 00:44:28.109 --> 00:44:31.439 began with the premise that there would be an information society and we were 00:44:31.439 --> 00:44:35.559 seen emerge of its own when did it mean firmly 00:44:35.559 --> 00:44:36.929 policy point of view 00:44:36.929 --> 00:44:39.949 and the first thing that these government officials where this is a 00:44:39.949 --> 00:44:41.139 intergovernmental 00:44:41.139 --> 00:44:42.029 discussion 00:44:42.029 --> 00:44:45.539 first thing that they asked was what information society 00:44:45.539 --> 00:44:46.549 ends there 00:44:46.549 --> 00:44:49.279 people said well the Internet is an example 00:44:49.279 --> 00:44:51.659 so they said what was in charge of the Internet 00:44:51.659 --> 00:44:55.319 not nothing could possibly be tuesday 00:44:55.319 --> 00:44:59.169 if it was essentially mentioned we said well nobody is a distributed system and 00:44:59.169 --> 00:45:00.799 they didn't believe this 00:45:00.799 --> 00:45:03.089 so then they discovered that i can 00:45:03.089 --> 00:45:06.919 because i can't has responsibility for idea dress allocations and meeting 00:45:06.919 --> 00:45:08.009 management 00:45:08.009 --> 00:45:11.229 and they decided and i can this be a tragedy 00:45:11.229 --> 00:45:15.019 and then they said it wasn't right if i can they decided i cant government 00:45:15.019 --> 00:45:18.299 contract with the department of commerce twenty nine and must be in charge of 00:45:18.299 --> 00:45:19.559 either 00:45:19.559 --> 00:45:23.349 that us is in terms of the Internet patents sit well with some of the 00:45:23.349 --> 00:45:27.369 country set back pain us attorney unit has been 00:45:27.369 --> 00:45:29.329 uh... a persistent uh... 00:45:29.329 --> 00:45:31.959 issue since two thousand three 00:45:31.959 --> 00:45:36.579 Internet governance forum was created out of the world somebody information 00:45:36.579 --> 00:45:40.809 society as a place where we could talk about issues arising in the inner it's a 00:45:40.809 --> 00:45:43.419 very important multi stakeholder 00:45:43.419 --> 00:45:44.820 system or 00:45:44.820 --> 00:45:45.919 function 00:45:45.919 --> 00:45:47.629 it doesn't make decisions 00:45:47.629 --> 00:45:49.759 this turns out to be really important 00:45:49.759 --> 00:45:53.530 because he'd make decisions if you're if you drafts uh... 00:45:53.530 --> 00:45:54.589 communiques 00:45:54.589 --> 00:45:58.599 or make recommendations you have to argue with each other you end up doing 00:45:58.599 --> 00:46:01.060 uh... you know these little words missing things 00:46:01.060 --> 00:46:04.070 in the end what we want is people going away understanding what are the issues 00:46:04.070 --> 00:46:07.979 like facing Internet how should they be dressed in battle 00:46:07.979 --> 00:46:13.569 but not by idea atf_ is their as a way of surfacing problems helping people 00:46:13.569 --> 00:46:16.389 figure u 00:46:16.389 --> 00:46:21.279 i'm ireland let me just get through organ international talks non-stop about 00:46:21.279 --> 00:46:24.059 some of you follow the world conference on 00:46:24.059 --> 00:46:27.579 information technology know that there was a major earthquake 00:46:27.579 --> 00:46:32.199 this was intended to revise the international talk on regulations 00:46:32.199 --> 00:46:35.289 which had been touched his nineteen eighty eight and at that point poorest 00:46:35.289 --> 00:46:35.869 people 00:46:35.869 --> 00:46:38.949 government officials especially when thinking about you know 00:46:38.949 --> 00:46:42.670 so they didn't take into account what unit was like and what he could do 00:46:42.670 --> 00:46:44.910 how could subsumed mobile solely 00:46:44.910 --> 00:46:47.850 earlier telecommunications applications 00:46:47.850 --> 00:46:48.749 system 00:46:48.749 --> 00:46:50.079 which it has done 00:46:50.079 --> 00:46:54.949 so they try to revise these things and the uh... countries that were most 00:46:54.949 --> 00:46:57.389 interested in finding ways to control 00:46:57.389 --> 00:47:01.549 Internet wanted to use the international telecom regulation revision as a way of 00:47:01.549 --> 00:47:02.469 gaining 00:47:02.469 --> 00:47:03.939 authority over the net 00:47:03.939 --> 00:47:09.319 so they try to put language into a high tea arms that uh... spoke of spam for 00:47:09.319 --> 00:47:09.950 example 00:47:09.950 --> 00:47:11.719 spoke with security 00:47:11.719 --> 00:47:12.689 smoker 00:47:12.689 --> 00:47:17.289 viruses worms and source well those are applications that country 00:47:17.289 --> 00:47:20.769 and never in history international talk i mean you know her 00:47:20.769 --> 00:47:22.329 dot hunt and he was 00:47:22.329 --> 00:47:24.289 it was standardizing telephone 00:47:24.289 --> 00:47:27.849 uh... interaction and originally delaware interactions 00:47:27.849 --> 00:47:30.439 but it was never responsible for content 00:47:30.439 --> 00:47:33.309 they didn't control what he did say on the phone 00:47:33.309 --> 00:47:35.829 they only trying to make sure you can make a phone call 00:47:35.829 --> 00:47:39.559 well i think the Internet to be the same way that these guys concede that way 00:47:39.559 --> 00:47:41.539 the result of the debate 00:47:41.539 --> 00:47:45.099 was that uh... of the hundred and forty seven countries 00:47:45.099 --> 00:47:46.899 that attended 00:47:46.899 --> 00:47:50.289 eighty-nine signed the resulting treating fifty-five walk away including 00:47:50.289 --> 00:47:53.119 the united states which is the right thing to do 00:47:53.119 --> 00:47:56.870 so if that is the biggest schism international 00:47:56.870 --> 00:48:00.869 negotiations regarding telecom that's ever happened in history the iq 00:48:00.869 --> 00:48:04.079 i think it's a very important uh... data point 00:48:04.079 --> 00:48:07.719 and i think that which actually kind of take advantage of the fact that there is 00:48:07.719 --> 00:48:08.879 disagreeing 00:48:08.879 --> 00:48:11.180 in order to force people to face it 00:48:11.180 --> 00:48:12.679 at the Internet is different 00:48:12.679 --> 00:48:14.839 approval via the telephone system 00:48:14.839 --> 00:48:17.009 we've been dealt with in the past 00:48:17.009 --> 00:48:20.629 skip over to privacy and safety 00:48:20.629 --> 00:48:25.729 you hear security security security is an issue on the Internet 00:48:25.729 --> 00:48:29.189 what I'd like to suggest to use that word causes people to think too much 00:48:29.189 --> 00:48:30.460 about uh... 00:48:30.460 --> 00:48:32.579 national security and think about 00:48:32.579 --> 00:48:35.109 nation state tax and so what would happen 00:48:35.109 --> 00:48:37.329 cases is not argue that they don't 00:48:37.329 --> 00:48:39.099 but the general public 00:48:39.099 --> 00:48:40.619 goes this way 00:48:40.619 --> 00:48:43.979 at the point where we're talking actual security 00:48:43.979 --> 00:48:45.020 what they don't 00:48:45.020 --> 00:48:49.269 it fully appreciate is that they are also part of the problem 00:48:49.269 --> 00:48:51.349 but its safety daycare 00:48:51.349 --> 00:48:54.599 they would like to be feel like they're safe on the Internet and they don't give 00:48:54.599 --> 00:48:58.299 us a fight because orders policy of reported 00:48:58.299 --> 00:48:58.900 so i'm 00:48:58.900 --> 00:49:00.279 thinking that we should be 00:49:00.279 --> 00:49:03.579 working out uh... kind of cyber fire depart 00:49:03.579 --> 00:49:07.559 velvet model i have in my head into somebody standing in front of his uh... 00:49:07.559 --> 00:49:11.229 his house was burning down and he's got a garden hose 00:49:11.229 --> 00:49:14.909 and he's taking any somebody with the rows and more water 00:49:14.909 --> 00:49:18.359 in order for this out in the first thing the comes to mind is not to call the 00:49:18.359 --> 00:49:19.199 police department 00:49:19.199 --> 00:49:21.219 you call firepower 00:49:21.219 --> 00:49:25.110 so we don't have a sucker for apartment in for a lot of individuals 00:49:25.110 --> 00:49:28.140 households and small businesses and everything else they don't have the 00:49:28.140 --> 00:49:30.549 expertise to put out a certified 00:49:30.549 --> 00:49:33.889 they don't know what to do about being infected within a matter of fact that 00:49:33.889 --> 00:49:37.369 they don't know what to do about cyber tackled 00:49:37.369 --> 00:49:42.049 and what they have cyber for in incall 00:49:42.049 --> 00:49:44.729 as a business or vigil 00:49:44.729 --> 00:49:47.619 but the rules may have to be different from what we did when we actually caught 00:49:47.619 --> 00:49:50.849 fire department your neighbor can call fire department to be seizure house on 00:49:50.849 --> 00:49:51.739 fire 00:49:51.739 --> 00:49:54.539 the fire department feels free to come in and broke windows in the rules in 00:49:54.539 --> 00:49:57.640 order for the fire because the neighborhood it is addressed 00:49:57.640 --> 00:49:59.129 so far is out 00:49:59.129 --> 00:50:02.139 but now they have in your competitor calls a cyber fire department says 00:50:02.139 --> 00:50:06.059 you're under attack cases are fire department comes out break settling down 00:50:06.059 --> 00:50:09.409 for three days trying to figure out what the problem is in wilder out of business 00:50:09.409 --> 00:50:11.349 and your competitors flailing 00:50:11.349 --> 00:50:13.240 so the rules for 00:50:13.240 --> 00:50:18.520 uh... indeed start for artwork the different media before 00:50:18.520 --> 00:50:20.229 for example 00:50:20.229 --> 00:50:22.739 i think it's important in this analogy is 00:50:22.739 --> 00:50:25.819 the fire department aptly put out the fire try to figure out why the fire 00:50:25.819 --> 00:50:27.099 started 00:50:27.099 --> 00:50:31.949 interviews are some and suddenly the police department of the heroes on for 00:50:31.949 --> 00:50:33.239 some gets the ball 00:50:33.239 --> 00:50:35.310 you can imagine a similar kind of scenario 00:50:35.310 --> 00:50:38.510 something else happens the fire department economic inspector building 00:50:38.510 --> 00:50:40.989 to see whether or not meet parker 00:50:40.989 --> 00:50:42.890 and we have fire codes for buildings 00:50:42.890 --> 00:50:44.899 and and that you can imagine 00:50:44.899 --> 00:50:46.939 looking for 00:50:46.939 --> 00:50:50.960 advice and even some rules for designing systems that are safer 00:50:50.960 --> 00:50:52.019 than others 00:50:52.019 --> 00:50:56.279 just like we have rules for doing buildings that are safer examples forget 00:50:56.279 --> 00:50:59.689 multiple exits entrances for for safety's sake 00:50:59.689 --> 00:51:03.839 so i think that we are at a period of time worthless consider 00:51:03.839 --> 00:51:05.059 uh... me 00:51:05.059 --> 00:51:07.939 invention of the summer for a car 00:51:07.939 --> 00:51:09.679 their country of the things here that 00:51:09.679 --> 00:51:10.580 dimension 00:51:10.580 --> 00:51:14.059 i have a few other things to talk about it also no 00:51:14.059 --> 00:51:15.149 vietnam 00:51:15.149 --> 00:51:16.349 pretty close to having 00:51:16.349 --> 00:51:20.179 borden vols or i can't believe it 00:51:20.179 --> 00:51:21.589 here's the problem 00:51:21.589 --> 00:51:23.970 digital signatures are really attractive right 00:51:23.970 --> 00:51:27.029 significance and usually sign things anywhere 00:51:27.029 --> 00:51:29.119 the question is legally 00:51:29.119 --> 00:51:31.949 is is it is a digital signature binding 00:51:31.949 --> 00:51:36.339 and it's not percent clear right now especially international business 00:51:36.339 --> 00:51:41.149 whether or not a contract has been signed usually it has weighed in court 00:51:41.149 --> 00:51:44.739 and so there's eighteen missing uh... 00:51:44.739 --> 00:51:45.959 assessment 00:51:45.959 --> 00:51:49.219 uh... either there is legislation does require 00:51:49.219 --> 00:51:53.680 or the international treaties required in order to determine whether or not 00:51:53.680 --> 00:51:56.349 digital signature on a contract is binding 00:51:56.349 --> 00:52:00.309 we don't have uh... agreements yet cleaning up but i think you would you 00:52:00.309 --> 00:52:01.000 wouldn't have 00:52:01.000 --> 00:52:02.469 words but 00:52:02.469 --> 00:52:05.140 come to some agreement about that 00:52:05.140 --> 00:52:08.259 i'm sure all of you are aware of the current state of debate on intellectual 00:52:08.259 --> 00:52:09.629 property 00:52:09.629 --> 00:52:11.389 on the path inside 00:52:11.389 --> 00:52:14.119 software patents to turn out to be a nightmare 00:52:14.119 --> 00:52:17.400 and uh... i think all those who recognize what that is 00:52:17.400 --> 00:52:21.500 the best example i can give you a wild and this is important for creativity and 00:52:21.500 --> 00:52:22.519 innovation 00:52:22.519 --> 00:52:24.069 is html 00:52:24.069 --> 00:52:26.380 when the first browsers for me 00:52:26.380 --> 00:52:28.329 even when the timbers needed 00:52:28.329 --> 00:52:32.079 uh... they had to feature the you can actually asking to show you the html 00:52:32.079 --> 00:52:32.989 source 00:52:32.989 --> 00:52:35.189 and you could figure out how do they do that 00:52:35.189 --> 00:52:38.689 and then they copied each other and it was great because you know webmasters 00:52:38.689 --> 00:52:39.920 learn from each other 00:52:39.920 --> 00:52:43.510 they develop new ideas everybody got to try new things out and give them the 00:52:43.510 --> 00:52:45.039 evolution 00:52:45.039 --> 00:52:47.019 the webpage was pretty dramatic 00:52:47.019 --> 00:52:50.739 over a very short period of time because people share each other's ideas and use 00:52:50.739 --> 00:52:51.419 it 00:52:51.419 --> 00:52:52.769 of html 00:52:52.769 --> 00:52:56.880 uh... in that's just one example of the reason why open this has been so 00:52:56.880 --> 00:53:00.369 valuable that's why google makes open-source available creme brulee 00:53:00.369 --> 00:53:05.799 increment croats for the same reasons but right now there's a lot of attention 00:53:05.799 --> 00:53:07.309 comes to copyright 00:53:07.309 --> 00:53:08.799 it's a whole other story 00:53:08.799 --> 00:53:11.959 uh... some of you will remember the uh... 00:53:11.959 --> 00:53:12.769 uh... in the 00:53:12.769 --> 00:53:14.409 our constitution 00:53:14.409 --> 00:53:17.200 the notion of copyright was installed in there 00:53:17.200 --> 00:53:18.750 as for two reasons 00:53:18.750 --> 00:53:22.069 to benefit the party who had created a work 00:53:22.069 --> 00:53:24.449 for a limited period of time 00:53:24.449 --> 00:53:26.629 originally was fourteen years 00:53:26.629 --> 00:53:29.989 and if you were the author of something that you could control who can make 00:53:29.989 --> 00:53:32.099 copies of it for that period of time 00:53:32.099 --> 00:53:35.139 if you were still alive after fourteen years ago actually had an option to 00:53:35.139 --> 00:53:38.000 extend the copyright again for another fourteen years 00:53:38.000 --> 00:53:40.509 i think you had to make the payment to do that 00:53:40.509 --> 00:53:43.130 well what has happened over the whole and then 00:53:43.130 --> 00:53:45.309 after that period had expired 00:53:45.309 --> 00:53:48.039 the work became part of the public domain 00:53:48.039 --> 00:53:50.639 intent here to benefit the population 00:53:50.639 --> 00:53:52.190 in the words are in there 00:53:52.190 --> 00:53:56.009 exactly that way what has happened over the course of a couple of years 00:53:56.009 --> 00:53:59.459 is that the intellectual property community has extended 00:53:59.459 --> 00:54:01.349 the lifetime 00:54:01.349 --> 00:54:03.470 for but the copyright holder s 00:54:03.470 --> 00:54:06.549 seventy five years after the death of the office 00:54:06.549 --> 00:54:10.890 this feels a little excessive to me because it seems to have left out 00:54:10.890 --> 00:54:14.340 the idea that things in the public domain would benefit the general public 00:54:14.340 --> 00:54:17.079 i think we've been waiting for 00:54:17.079 --> 00:54:20.029 we're seeing similar problems with passed because we have people fighting 00:54:20.029 --> 00:54:21.229 overpass 00:54:21.229 --> 00:54:24.429 that expanding billions of dollars 00:54:24.429 --> 00:54:27.509 things it probably should have been patented in the first place i think this 00:54:27.509 --> 00:54:30.619 is a largely approval of software 00:54:30.619 --> 00:54:35.010 so uh... this is a big problem in some of us into technical world were about 00:54:35.010 --> 00:54:37.049 do indeed with the legal people 00:54:37.049 --> 00:54:40.539 in order to work through the implications of changing 00:54:40.539 --> 00:54:42.349 love the way these things work 00:54:42.349 --> 00:54:45.669 and final thing i wanted to mention on the slide has to do with the problem 00:54:45.669 --> 00:54:46.579 that 00:54:46.579 --> 00:54:50.009 uh... we are increasingly creating digital content 00:54:50.009 --> 00:54:55.159 every day when we use word processing programs that were used for entry to usa 00:54:55.159 --> 00:54:57.630 uh... presentation software kind or another 00:54:57.630 --> 00:55:00.409 we create fairly complex digital files 00:55:00.409 --> 00:55:03.859 say this is the big business in those files were only meaningful with the 00:55:03.859 --> 00:55:06.469 software that created them is available 00:55:06.469 --> 00:55:10.009 and one of the problems that arise this is an overtime 00:55:10.009 --> 00:55:12.619 that's offering up the executed 00:55:12.619 --> 00:55:14.959 on the machines that you have available 00:55:14.959 --> 00:55:18.339 and so if you carefully stored the bits and you've moved them from the five 00:55:18.339 --> 00:55:23.259 quarter-inch floppy do the three and a half incentive you know the uh... dvds 00:55:23.259 --> 00:55:24.319 or cds 00:55:24.319 --> 00:55:29.180 to any and seller if you move the dates from one begin to another if there is no 00:55:29.180 --> 00:55:32.979 guarantee that the software that created them will still be money machine that 00:55:32.979 --> 00:55:34.339 you're currently 00:55:34.339 --> 00:55:37.449 using or the operating system that we currently using 00:55:37.449 --> 00:55:38.679 uh... the uh... 00:55:38.679 --> 00:55:40.759 lol might uh... 00:55:40.759 --> 00:55:42.679 experiment i remember whose 00:55:42.679 --> 00:55:45.379 what happens in this year's three thousand 00:55:45.379 --> 00:55:47.369 and you've got a google search 00:55:47.369 --> 00:55:50.889 and in turn up in nineteen ninety seven qar point five 00:55:50.889 --> 00:55:53.829 the question suppose you're running windows three thousand images for the 00:55:53.829 --> 00:55:55.069 sake of argument 00:55:55.069 --> 00:55:58.359 and the question is will the windows three thousand package interpreting 00:55:58.359 --> 00:56:02.169 nineteen ninety-seven powerpoint file correctly answered probably no 00:56:02.169 --> 00:56:05.839 and this is not a gratuitous vega microsoft even if you're using open 00:56:05.839 --> 00:56:06.799 source 00:56:06.799 --> 00:56:09.289 mechanisms that the other hundred-percent through the open source 00:56:09.289 --> 00:56:12.729 programs would continue to be compiled worry machine 00:56:12.729 --> 00:56:14.430 up until the year three thousand 00:56:14.430 --> 00:56:17.969 so there's a real challenge their which is maintaining the ability to interpret 00:56:17.969 --> 00:56:19.219 the debts 00:56:19.219 --> 00:56:21.529 in scientific data it's even worse 00:56:21.529 --> 00:56:22.589 because he he 00:56:22.589 --> 00:56:27.019 uh... track not only in the distant cells from in san diego calibration 00:56:27.019 --> 00:56:28.269 instruments 00:56:28.269 --> 00:56:31.429 uh... in the conditions under which the data was collected 00:56:31.429 --> 00:56:35.019 we don't have a bridging right now 00:56:35.019 --> 00:56:39.509 either a few more that we can retain information or even that we can get 00:56:39.509 --> 00:56:41.110 access to software 00:56:41.110 --> 00:56:42.999 when the company goes out of business 00:56:42.999 --> 00:56:44.520 or when they with lisa 00:56:44.520 --> 00:56:48.750 a new version is not compatible with the previous one how do we get access to the 00:56:48.750 --> 00:56:50.689 previous of software 00:56:50.689 --> 00:56:54.599 there are there is no current regime which recognizes the importance of 00:56:54.599 --> 00:56:55.549 retaining 00:56:55.549 --> 00:56:57.740 uh... access to the scheduled days 00:56:57.740 --> 00:57:00.049 some of you probably saw the movie lincoln 00:57:00.049 --> 00:57:01.599 and you've ever reading a book 00:57:01.599 --> 00:57:02.689 called 00:57:02.689 --> 00:57:05.659 a team of rivals by doris kearns good 00:57:05.659 --> 00:57:09.359 one of the interesting things about herblock usage fee reconstructed the 00:57:09.359 --> 00:57:10.930 dialogue with the time 00:57:10.930 --> 00:57:14.140 by going to a hundred different libraries and finding the lenders 00:57:14.140 --> 00:57:16.670 principles in that uh... story 00:57:16.670 --> 00:57:18.099 had said to each other 00:57:18.099 --> 00:57:22.299 she was able to reconstruct dialogue based on their imagine the june twenty 00:57:22.299 --> 00:57:26.299 second century and trying to reproduce what life was like in are twenty first 00:57:26.299 --> 00:57:27.249 century 00:57:27.249 --> 00:57:30.539 everything we've done is scheduled it's all done it's unacceptable they will 00:57:30.539 --> 00:57:32.649 never be at the moment we work 00:57:32.649 --> 00:57:36.529 we we will not be good ancestors we will be invisible ancestors 00:57:36.529 --> 00:57:40.369 so we can not this would have to figure out how to do background 00:57:40.369 --> 00:57:41.049 ocampo 00:57:41.049 --> 00:57:42.839 team well 00:57:42.839 --> 00:57:45.409 you know what 00:57:45.409 --> 00:57:48.179 through getting lazy 00:57:48.179 --> 00:57:49.180 i really feel 00:57:49.180 --> 00:57:52.159 compelled to tell you some of this is it ok 00:57:52.159 --> 00:57:54.009 uh... so 00:57:54.009 --> 00:57:56.989 this is the thing that's interesting about the Internet is that despite the 00:57:56.989 --> 00:57:59.010 fact that bomb in a local celebrate 00:57:59.010 --> 00:58:02.809 the fortieth anniversary of the design 00:58:02.809 --> 00:58:06.019 paper was published in may of seventy four of the original papers written in 00:58:06.019 --> 00:58:08.259 september of seventy three 00:58:08.259 --> 00:58:10.109 and we turn the system on 00:58:10.109 --> 00:58:12.389 on january one nineteen eighty three 00:58:12.389 --> 00:58:16.069 sows an operational for thirty years in spite of this age 00:58:16.069 --> 00:58:19.139 uh... it has a long pretty dramatically and there are lots of things that are 00:58:19.139 --> 00:58:23.269 still going on there could be done with the open flow idea stanford university 00:58:23.269 --> 00:58:27.219 and it begins with is a particularly interesting example 00:58:27.219 --> 00:58:29.149 you know when we don't balance 00:58:29.149 --> 00:58:31.279 with cisco another still drives 00:58:31.279 --> 00:58:33.069 big is the address base 00:58:33.069 --> 00:58:35.789 on the packets to figure out where they should welcome so you look at the 00:58:35.789 --> 00:58:39.309 destination addressing look it up in a cable news where doctor replied the 00:58:39.309 --> 00:58:40.519 cable companies 00:58:40.519 --> 00:58:43.049 fourteen thousand you do that 00:58:43.049 --> 00:58:47.469 mitnick in his guys said wildly limiting ourselves to the end respects 00:58:47.469 --> 00:58:50.979 it why can't use other events in the packet to tell us where out things what 00:58:50.979 --> 00:58:54.709 we did look at the other states at all just look at the content decided how to 00:58:54.709 --> 00:58:55.900 wrap based on that 00:58:55.900 --> 00:58:59.040 as a slightly multitask like ring to it at that because you can imagine 00:58:59.040 --> 00:59:00.240 announcing 00:59:00.240 --> 00:59:02.399 you were interested in this kind of content 00:59:02.399 --> 00:59:05.629 and everybody knows that i'm interested in that kind of content would get copies 00:59:05.629 --> 00:59:08.579 of the package because the drowning people would say anybody that said they 00:59:08.579 --> 00:59:09.409 wanted 00:59:09.409 --> 00:59:12.059 that content we were back to that smoking yes 00:59:12.059 --> 00:59:15.909 so what what they have done basically is open up the notion of routing too much 00:59:15.909 --> 00:59:18.429 broader range possibilities 00:59:18.429 --> 00:59:20.329 this is really powerful stuff 00:59:20.329 --> 00:59:23.739 and i don't have time to go to all the details of the global 00:59:23.739 --> 00:59:25.650 decided to build an hour 00:59:25.650 --> 00:59:29.509 wide area network backbone that connects all of our data centers together using 00:59:29.509 --> 00:59:30.639 open flow 00:59:30.639 --> 00:59:33.759 so over a period of about eighteen months aboard where we work with the 00:59:33.759 --> 00:59:34.890 overflow team 00:59:34.890 --> 00:59:36.349 we actually implemented 00:59:36.349 --> 00:59:40.119 and open for hours and we build ourselves and we put into operation in 00:59:40.119 --> 00:59:42.709 the backbone latino business together 00:59:42.709 --> 00:59:43.819 it's given us 00:59:43.819 --> 00:59:47.499 substantially better performance in terms of uh... your station of the 00:59:47.499 --> 00:59:48.449 optical 00:59:48.449 --> 00:59:50.709 uh... network that links are data centers 00:59:50.709 --> 00:59:55.140 so have very ambitious thing to do identity do with it some thought that i 00:59:55.140 --> 00:59:59.749 can taken credit don't want you earth also as our senior vp for information 00:59:59.749 --> 01:00:01.249 for infrastructure 01:00:01.249 --> 01:00:03.519 and his team just landed 01:00:03.519 --> 01:00:05.079 and it's really impressive 01:00:05.079 --> 01:00:10.099 uh... so this is an example of breaking uh... out over donor card it will 01:00:10.099 --> 01:00:12.909 emulate everything literary robert do 01:00:12.909 --> 01:00:15.669 because use text of the actors 01:00:15.669 --> 01:00:18.840 but the fact is is like any technology worded 01:00:18.840 --> 01:00:20.959 does the previous thing 01:00:20.959 --> 01:00:23.829 and then because you using new technology to do the previous thing you 01:00:23.829 --> 01:00:26.739 can send you step in the body of your life you can do it 01:00:26.739 --> 01:00:28.869 uh... that's very 01:00:28.869 --> 01:00:31.659 uh... another we talked about configuration management and the 01:00:31.659 --> 01:00:33.839 Internet things 01:00:33.839 --> 01:00:37.019 problem certificates and certification 01:00:37.019 --> 01:00:39.859 a lot of people thought that issuing certificates should be greatly reduced 01:00:39.859 --> 01:00:41.489 authentication 01:00:41.489 --> 01:00:44.779 but that assumes you can trust you to get it for recent issues a certificate 01:00:44.779 --> 01:00:46.099 in the first place 01:00:46.099 --> 01:00:48.159 problems you can do you know if you 01:00:48.159 --> 01:00:52.229 isn't the issue where the certificate can have any string they want to 01:00:52.229 --> 01:00:54.259 associated with the public key 01:00:54.259 --> 01:00:55.659 there was no concern 01:00:55.659 --> 01:00:59.249 and so if you in fact were able to call wears 01:00:59.249 --> 01:01:02.709 uh... a certificate authority by the certificate authority over break into a 01:01:02.709 --> 01:01:05.829 certificate is already in generate fall certificate 01:01:05.829 --> 01:01:11.049 with more microsoft word himself for providers namely in that certificate and 01:01:11.049 --> 01:01:12.200 then somehow 01:01:12.200 --> 01:01:13.839 issue software 01:01:13.839 --> 01:01:17.469 associated that certificate you can cause people to mistakenly download and 01:01:17.469 --> 01:01:19.299 install 01:01:19.299 --> 01:01:20.759 well the problem here is 01:01:20.759 --> 01:01:23.069 trust every certificate corey 01:01:23.069 --> 01:01:25.919 now you can try to uh... thought to that 01:01:25.919 --> 01:01:29.719 if you look at your browser and you see how many certificate authorities are 01:01:29.719 --> 01:01:32.349 uh... are trusted outfits 01:01:32.349 --> 01:01:34.909 it's only and self control 01:01:34.909 --> 01:01:38.549 sold by the other alternative india atf_ right now is to look at the 01:01:38.549 --> 01:01:41.179 possibility of installing certificates 01:01:41.179 --> 01:01:42.750 intervening system 01:01:42.750 --> 01:01:44.539 using insect 01:01:44.539 --> 01:01:45.669 as a tool 01:01:45.669 --> 01:01:49.069 for making sure that everything going down to the place where the certificate 01:01:49.069 --> 01:01:53.609 is being installed has been digitally signed so there's a change dress on top 01:01:53.609 --> 01:01:54.270 of that 01:01:54.270 --> 01:01:59.519 is usually is related to refer to strings that are related to me 01:01:59.519 --> 01:02:03.159 in which that coddling inserted interest on 01:02:03.159 --> 01:02:04.389 so if you're 01:02:04.389 --> 01:02:05.869 google dot com 01:02:05.869 --> 01:02:09.899 the only certificates that i could have a good in cool dot com the second level 01:02:09.899 --> 01:02:10.879 domain 01:02:10.879 --> 01:02:13.830 with her third level domains inside google dot com 01:02:13.830 --> 01:02:20.340 any other attempts to for certificate out of that part of the uh... demeaning 01:02:20.340 --> 01:02:21.079 zone 01:02:21.079 --> 01:02:24.010 we have to be rejected out of him because he 01:02:24.010 --> 01:02:25.990 strain was accredited 01:02:25.990 --> 01:02:27.709 wasn't from its own 01:02:27.709 --> 01:02:30.859 so that's an example of a way of responding to this story 01:02:30.859 --> 01:02:31.910 let me just mention 01:02:31.910 --> 01:02:35.029 one of the things i want to give you a quick summary of the year planetary 01:02:35.029 --> 01:02:36.019 system 01:02:36.019 --> 01:02:37.889 uh... p 01:02:37.889 --> 01:02:41.569 uh... those of you who study the history of competing here remember project 01:02:41.569 --> 01:02:44.279 activity back in the nineteen sixties 01:02:44.279 --> 01:02:47.859 one of the interesting things they did was to modify and she knows ge six 01:02:47.859 --> 01:02:50.349 thirty five thirty to six forty five 01:02:50.349 --> 01:02:54.349 that had it brings a protection and their management 01:02:54.349 --> 01:02:57.849 it reads a protection were triggered whenever you executed as sensitive 01:02:57.849 --> 01:02:59.329 instruction 01:02:59.329 --> 01:03:02.649 that instruction tracked down to the colonel software and said who r u what 01:03:02.649 --> 01:03:05.529 are you doing here when instruction he tried to execute and what makes you 01:03:05.529 --> 01:03:08.049 think you have the authority to do that 01:03:08.049 --> 01:03:11.169 and all the colonel would decide whether or not you were actually allowed to 01:03:11.169 --> 01:03:15.389 execute the instruction in place in the appropriate reign of control so as you 01:03:15.389 --> 01:03:19.749 got down to ring zero who have more more control over machine this is an example 01:03:19.749 --> 01:03:23.789 of hardware and software working together to reinforce security 01:03:23.789 --> 01:03:26.869 we actually have that capability in the x_-eighty six trips but nobody's 01:03:26.869 --> 01:03:28.049 programming 01:03:28.049 --> 01:03:30.709 and they should be good to know so that's one example of hardware 01:03:30.709 --> 01:03:32.300 reinforcing security 01:03:32.300 --> 01:03:33.549 with software 01:03:33.549 --> 01:03:37.339 um... the same thing is just happened recently with uh... violence with 01:03:37.339 --> 01:03:39.019 digitally signed by house 01:03:39.019 --> 01:03:43.349 we can execute people program comes in the operating system and less 01:03:43.349 --> 01:03:45.700 the digital signature on the five scone 01:03:45.700 --> 01:03:47.139 checks out with her 01:03:47.139 --> 01:03:49.719 it's another example of getting more reinforcements 01:03:49.719 --> 01:03:53.579 okay hundred skip down to the interplanetary Internet so we've heard 01:03:53.579 --> 01:03:56.359 about this it was just an update on the status 01:03:56.359 --> 01:04:00.989 when we started we were interested in providing better networking for 01:04:00.989 --> 01:04:02.539 uh... exploring mars 01:04:02.539 --> 01:04:06.179 this was in nineteen ninety just after the pathfinder project 01:04:06.179 --> 01:04:09.750 waited smallholder on mars very successfully 01:04:09.750 --> 01:04:13.280 the information that was coming back with strip directly from apple or over a 01:04:13.280 --> 01:04:15.869 wave after through the deep space network 01:04:15.869 --> 01:04:19.140 and so my colleagues and i had the jet propulsion laboratory ki 01:04:19.140 --> 01:04:20.589 what should we be doing 01:04:20.589 --> 01:04:23.510 and we will need twenty five years from now in order to provide better 01:04:23.510 --> 01:04:25.960 networking for uh... p 01:04:25.960 --> 01:04:26.890 uh... space 01:04:26.890 --> 01:04:28.189 faring nations 01:04:28.189 --> 01:04:32.609 and out we very quickly concluded we should use rich networking like Internet 01:04:32.609 --> 01:04:36.429 no we said well maybe we can use the cpi_ p hearts on earth so maybe work 01:04:36.429 --> 01:04:37.599 on mars too 01:04:37.599 --> 01:04:41.010 and of course i will work on mars but it doesn't work between the planets 01:04:41.010 --> 01:04:44.300 because of the variable delay which could be up to twenty minutes one way 01:04:44.300 --> 01:04:47.179 forty minutes roundtrip and also destruction 01:04:47.179 --> 01:04:51.039 in the plan is a rotating we have figured out how to stop that 01:04:51.039 --> 01:04:54.619 sup so if you're talking to something on the surface of the planet rotates or 01:04:54.619 --> 01:04:55.989 maybe there's an order 01:04:55.989 --> 01:04:58.980 you can talk a little it comes back around again 01:04:58.980 --> 01:05:03.010 so we end up with this variable the land destruction environment pcp_ is broke 01:05:03.010 --> 01:05:04.070 in that regard 01:05:04.070 --> 01:05:08.409 so we developed a new initially protocols we call the bottle protocol 01:05:08.409 --> 01:05:11.849 in recent years we didn't come up with very beautifully done kentucky fried 01:05:11.849 --> 01:05:17.189 chicken noodle called hotbed birds period 01:05:17.189 --> 01:05:22.349 just not really giving some final phone call isn't your planetary world unit 01:05:22.349 --> 01:05:24.859 protocol is winter 01:05:24.859 --> 01:05:27.809 it'll run on basically anything that moves a packet of dates from one place 01:05:27.809 --> 01:05:32.429 to another runs on top of pcp_ dealers on top of the vp hearings and cut by p 01:05:32.429 --> 01:05:34.609 was on top of point-to-point links 01:05:34.609 --> 01:05:39.489 do we get after looking for a regions of the design of the system 01:05:39.489 --> 01:05:44.569 we install it uh... for experimental purposes uh... but let me go back 01:05:44.569 --> 01:05:47.739 there there was you know in two thousand four 01:05:47.739 --> 01:05:50.130 over several and in order to him 01:05:50.130 --> 01:05:52.410 very successfully spirit and opportunity 01:05:52.410 --> 01:05:56.429 one of them I'd forget which fear is has died 01:05:56.429 --> 01:06:00.409 i can read one of his dad the other one is uh... still producing data 01:06:00.409 --> 01:06:04.419 but when they were uh... first landed they were supposed to transmit data 01:06:04.419 --> 01:06:07.479 directly back to earth away pathfinder did 01:06:07.479 --> 01:06:09.699 but those radios overheat 01:06:09.699 --> 01:06:13.019 and the result is that they needed to reduce the duty cycle to keep it from 01:06:13.019 --> 01:06:16.739 armenia itself or any other equipment was originally rated at twenty eight 01:06:16.739 --> 01:06:18.359 august second 01:06:18.359 --> 01:06:21.509 and that was nearly scientists were not happy about that 01:06:21.509 --> 01:06:24.759 when we told we have to reduce the duty cycle they worry more than happy about 01:06:24.759 --> 01:06:25.679 that 01:06:25.679 --> 01:06:29.189 and so one of the engineer said well there's an expand radio on the rover 01:06:29.189 --> 01:06:33.039 there's an expand radio on orders which have been put in place in orders 01:06:33.039 --> 01:06:35.739 uh... certainly the planet to decide where the rover should go but they 01:06:35.739 --> 01:06:38.249 finish that tested evidence in orbit 01:06:38.249 --> 01:06:41.819 and they had available communications can computing in memory 01:06:41.819 --> 01:06:46.549 so the the orders and the rover reprogrammed 01:06:46.549 --> 01:06:50.239 to take data that you collected squared up to the order when i got into 01:06:50.239 --> 01:06:54.379 with replacement ball into the data for the transmitted data back 01:06:54.379 --> 01:06:56.619 uh... to the deep space network 01:06:56.619 --> 01:07:00.949 the data rate going on the expand radial isn't when he told it's the second 01:07:00.949 --> 01:07:03.390 pakistan grading and two fifty six 01:07:03.390 --> 01:07:07.489 and uh... the orders since they have a large solar arrays and didn't have any 01:07:07.489 --> 01:07:08.180 problem 01:07:08.180 --> 01:07:10.459 even within rowers atmosphere 01:07:10.459 --> 01:07:14.029 could transmit data back it more than two hundred twenty kept a second 01:07:14.029 --> 01:07:17.809 so all the data that was coming back from our school in store for 01:07:17.809 --> 01:07:19.569 packet switching 01:07:19.569 --> 01:07:23.549 today demonstration of how well that could work 01:07:23.549 --> 01:07:26.519 dirt that landed in the year two thousand eight was in the north pole 01:07:26.519 --> 01:07:30.029 didn't have a configuration of three factors so they went through the relay 01:07:30.029 --> 01:07:31.039 again 01:07:31.039 --> 01:07:35.599 belly-up the protocols to be a proxy spacecraft which is in order in the sun 01:07:35.599 --> 01:07:37.779 that had wonderful with two counts 01:07:37.779 --> 01:07:41.339 it was called deep impact originally in the new new mission bringing to the 01:07:41.339 --> 01:07:42.239 party 01:07:42.239 --> 01:07:44.519 so if as the protocols on board 01:07:44.519 --> 01:07:48.339 rovers at the protocols board your orders at the protocols word 01:07:48.339 --> 01:07:51.539 international space station has protocols work 01:07:51.539 --> 01:07:56.349 we're operating basically rudimentary interplanetary network now 01:07:56.349 --> 01:07:59.370 and so what's happening is that at nasa 01:07:59.370 --> 01:08:01.890 efforts to standardize these protocols 01:08:01.890 --> 01:08:05.479 internationally through the consul canadian space data systems 01:08:05.479 --> 01:08:09.689 were hoping that everybody will adopt the protocols use them in their missions 01:08:09.689 --> 01:08:12.759 or even if they don't use among the nations of the salmon on board so when 01:08:12.759 --> 01:08:15.259 those missions are done 01:08:15.259 --> 01:08:18.809 purpose those devices is known as an interplanetary back and so we might 01:08:18.809 --> 01:08:21.009 actually see something 01:08:21.009 --> 01:08:22.339 like that 01:08:22.339 --> 01:08:24.799 uh... over you know many decades 01:08:24.799 --> 01:08:28.829 now some people said well you know why are you doing supports one answers 01:08:28.829 --> 01:08:32.430 provide which options for more complex missions with multiple 01:08:32.430 --> 01:08:36.569 uh... spacecraft in orbit intend on foreign you know in orbit 01:08:36.569 --> 01:08:39.749 around the sun for example were flying out of the solar system 01:08:39.749 --> 01:08:44.119 or possibly on the surface in fact we get into example of that 01:08:44.119 --> 01:08:47.670 a couple of months ago out of the european space agency in cooperation 01:08:47.670 --> 01:08:49.819 with the uh... us 01:08:49.819 --> 01:08:54.020 did may test from the uh... international space station 01:08:54.020 --> 01:08:57.880 using the interplanetary protocols to control the rover on the ground in 01:08:57.880 --> 01:08:58.889 germany 01:08:58.889 --> 01:09:02.269 so while we were demonstrating is one of the white if you were in orbit around 01:09:02.269 --> 01:09:03.380 mars 01:09:03.380 --> 01:09:05.719 and you need to control over remotely 01:09:05.719 --> 01:09:09.170 it was close enough to was real-time interaction so the protocols 01:09:09.170 --> 01:09:12.589 although they can deal with uh... variable delay are also perfectly ok 01:09:12.589 --> 01:09:14.679 disliking vp 01:09:14.679 --> 01:09:15.680 fine 01:09:15.680 --> 01:09:19.240 so you have a wonder will go right so that might help build more complex 01:09:19.240 --> 01:09:19.960 missions 01:09:19.960 --> 01:09:22.239 but i have one of the reason for doing this 01:09:22.239 --> 01:09:25.819 barbour released a contract last year for half a million dollars 01:09:25.819 --> 01:09:29.400 to a consortium to design a spacecraft they can get to the nearest star in a 01:09:29.400 --> 01:09:30.589 hundred years 01:09:30.589 --> 01:09:33.639 that's for reflectors away alpha centauri 01:09:33.639 --> 01:09:38.509 and so uh... i'm lucky to be part of that consortium in their three problems 01:09:38.509 --> 01:09:40.670 problem number one is propulsion 01:09:40.670 --> 01:09:44.569 uh... it turns out that uh... the current propulsion systems would take 01:09:44.569 --> 01:09:45.250 about 01:09:45.250 --> 01:09:49.020 sixty five thousand years to get from earth to alpha centauri 01:09:49.020 --> 01:09:51.429 which is a little won't even for a darker project 01:09:51.429 --> 01:09:56.199 so the question is how do i get up to about twenty percent the speed of light 01:09:56.199 --> 01:10:00.969 an ally the way we need to william slowdown before we get together and 01:10:00.969 --> 01:10:04.489 otherwise we'll get one image in indian than expected 01:10:04.489 --> 01:10:08.969 so the idea of what you saw them in going forward so we have to reaches 01:10:08.969 --> 01:10:13.000 speed of about twenty percent speed of light midpoint fifty years and then be 01:10:13.000 --> 01:10:14.689 able to console them 01:10:14.689 --> 01:10:17.030 to get to work at the evidence that's one problem 01:10:17.030 --> 01:10:18.919 navigation is another problem 01:10:18.919 --> 01:10:23.570 uh... imagine you know that when we do interplanetary projects now 01:10:23.570 --> 01:10:26.590 usually the spacecraft get to a certain point in the mission and you have to do 01:10:26.590 --> 01:10:29.989 in the course sections and we do that is interactively 01:10:29.989 --> 01:10:33.979 not not not literally real-time we send the correction information we get back 01:10:33.979 --> 01:10:36.460 to information about the change in me 01:10:36.460 --> 01:10:37.679 uh... flight path 01:10:37.679 --> 01:10:41.790 now imagined for doing this for the space craft that's not what your way 01:10:41.790 --> 01:10:44.760 so it takes a year for the information you get there another year for you to 01:10:44.760 --> 01:10:46.729 find out whether or not worker 01:10:46.729 --> 01:10:49.840 instant feel like it was real interactive on 01:10:49.840 --> 01:10:54.160 so i got worried about that until somebody pointed out that ecom proper 01:10:54.160 --> 01:10:57.270 motion stars that are within about ten litres of 01:10:57.270 --> 01:10:59.809 our solar system was actually pretty woman 01:10:59.809 --> 01:11:04.670 which means that we can do in homestead additional slightly 01:11:04.670 --> 01:11:07.090 as we can use stars there much farther away 01:11:07.090 --> 01:11:10.159 as a way of calibrating where we are and then use that to make a mid-course 01:11:10.159 --> 01:11:11.190 corrections 01:11:11.190 --> 01:11:13.770 so that i was easy that this communication 01:11:13.770 --> 01:11:17.130 how big the generators signal it would be detectable order 01:11:17.130 --> 01:11:19.159 from for your support 01:11:19.159 --> 01:11:23.169 uh... you know and also you have to deliver the equipment to for lives away 01:11:23.169 --> 01:11:26.479 so you have some limitations on message you can send 01:11:26.479 --> 01:11:30.590 so i've been thinking well maybe eh... femtosecond lasers mentioned you have a 01:11:30.590 --> 01:11:31.680 hundred what 01:11:31.680 --> 01:11:35.770 power supply and compress a hundred one signals ten minus fifteen seconds and 01:11:35.770 --> 01:11:37.030 should give you pretty good 01:11:37.030 --> 01:11:38.130 since then 01:11:38.130 --> 01:11:41.890 without even if it's a laser beam isn't being spread 01:11:41.890 --> 01:11:46.370 over four lightyear distance and i get this very attenuated bohat false 01:11:46.370 --> 01:11:50.020 attenuated downsizings sewer systems and now you know i need the interplanetary 01:11:50.020 --> 01:11:51.210 backbone 01:11:51.210 --> 01:11:54.400 is so i can do the synthetic aperture receiver to detect the signal coming 01:11:54.400 --> 01:11:56.239 from an office in time 01:11:56.239 --> 01:12:01.820 one of the physicist said wait a minute there's another when it is that 01:12:01.820 --> 01:12:07.050 you know that he that he will be online stone figure some serious right 01:12:07.050 --> 01:12:11.040 so he said if you go fired fifty astronomical units away from the senate 01:12:11.040 --> 01:12:15.150 you begin to get the point where the gravity will form a focal point 01:12:15.150 --> 01:12:16.199 fulfilling 01:12:16.199 --> 01:12:20.479 so we can just get equipment five and fifty a year out from her 01:12:20.479 --> 01:12:25.039 then we can use the focal uh... gravitational lands of the sun in order 01:12:25.039 --> 01:12:27.810 to focus the signal is coming office in time 01:12:27.810 --> 01:12:31.670 so that certain current idea building planetary 01:12:31.670 --> 01:12:33.079 answered style 01:12:33.079 --> 01:12:36.119 system intergalactic it's somebody else's trial 01:12:36.119 --> 01:12:39.469 file i i'm sorry when i sent him a little bit 01:12:39.469 --> 01:12:41.659 speaking talent dizzy and sick about this 01:12:41.659 --> 01:12:45.539 i happen to spend some time in two and a biol forgive you if you all the center 01:12:45.539 --> 01:12:46.340 of the way 01:12:46.340 --> 01:12:53.340 but i think in any case for coming to google c 01:13:03.099 --> 01:13:07.479 mister thank you so much prestige for another great speech you gave last year 01:13:07.479 --> 01:13:10.040 uh... presented by 01:13:10.040 --> 01:13:13.580 you'll stop 01:13:13.580 --> 01:13:20.559 understand you're and said sorry start work here 01:13:20.559 --> 01:13:25.419 those are are real meals problems a real problem is that we can find in our 01:13:25.419 --> 01:13:26.409 discussion 01:13:26.409 --> 01:13:31.659 to those words we actually banda thinking in uh... in ways that general 01:13:31.659 --> 01:13:36.610 solely anyone masses espy's march 01:13:36.610 --> 01:13:40.139 urich 01:13:40.139 --> 01:13:47.139 uh... if metallic style security xy i have actually has interactions with the 01:13:47.530 --> 01:13:51.400 department of homeland security which is actually doing an experiment with the 01:13:51.400 --> 01:13:52.699 sacristy 01:13:52.699 --> 01:13:53.709 notion 01:13:53.709 --> 01:13:57.979 so that i don't know how far they've gotten into releasing 01:13:57.979 --> 01:14:02.409 functionality to make it available but my understanding is that they see the 01:14:02.409 --> 01:14:03.550 need for 01:14:03.550 --> 01:14:05.950 uh... the order to avoid the 01:14:05.950 --> 01:14:08.919 small businesses to have a place to go home to get help 01:14:08.919 --> 01:14:12.489 because the building helped me get today tends to be 01:14:12.489 --> 01:14:16.840 antivirus operating download which does help to some degree but all of you sure 01:14:16.840 --> 01:14:18.149 very familiar with 01:14:18.149 --> 01:14:20.929 daisy row attacks which are increasingly common 01:14:20.929 --> 01:14:25.199 and the other thing i worry about specifically is the response to suffer 01:14:25.199 --> 01:14:26.250 tak 01:14:26.250 --> 01:14:31.900 if you have a young uh... an attack wishing let's take it distributed in the 01:14:31.900 --> 01:14:33.600 home services 01:14:33.600 --> 01:14:37.190 uh... if you're interested in responses i'm going to wipe out this drives a 01:14:37.190 --> 01:14:39.530 volvo machines that are attacking me 01:14:39.530 --> 01:14:43.480 turns out those machines are probably owned by citizens 01:14:43.480 --> 01:14:45.659 who don't know their machines are infected 01:14:45.659 --> 01:14:49.489 and be able to wipe out this transit you know a million people 01:14:49.489 --> 01:14:53.130 some of those uh... machines were important for daily operation 01:14:53.130 --> 01:14:55.409 and suddenly we have found ourselves and for 01:14:55.409 --> 01:14:58.219 so that can't be right answers so we have to think our way through our 01:14:58.219 --> 01:15:00.800 carefully about how we attribute the source 01:15:00.800 --> 01:15:03.679 and what we do about the case where 01:15:03.679 --> 01:15:08.369 the actual attacking devices are not under the control actually abusers 01:15:08.369 --> 01:15:12.379 that is still a lot of work to be done 01:15:12.379 --> 01:15:15.269 saying yeah i think in the beginning you mentioned uh... the next big thing 01:15:15.269 --> 01:15:18.960 possibly people using a device is used to do 01:15:18.960 --> 01:15:21.829 xyz_ likely music on the same room 01:15:21.829 --> 01:15:26.369 uh... play video record surveillance is tough on you use your more thoughts 01:15:26.369 --> 01:15:28.830 about about that i'm market myself 01:15:28.830 --> 01:15:30.639 what he said that though 01:15:30.639 --> 01:15:35.329 so what you know one of the things that i find interesting different one figure 01:15:35.329 --> 01:15:36.780 question suggest 01:15:36.780 --> 01:15:38.789 imagine you're driving in the car 01:15:38.789 --> 01:15:43.800 and uh... you are asking questions like how do i get to this destination 01:15:43.800 --> 01:15:48.100 uh... the voice message may go to a speech understanding system 01:15:48.100 --> 01:15:52.070 but the answer may come back on the navigational display on the car everyone 01:15:52.070 --> 01:15:54.719 that using two devices at the same time 01:15:54.719 --> 01:15:57.870 the way that the system navigational system 01:15:57.870 --> 01:16:02.969 knows uh... what is the address of the occasional displays that the system is 01:16:02.969 --> 01:16:06.770 taking her voice is also telling the destination here the other devices in 01:16:06.770 --> 01:16:07.710 the car 01:16:07.710 --> 01:16:09.630 how about you walk into a hotel room 01:16:09.630 --> 01:16:11.340 animal that was turned on 01:16:11.340 --> 01:16:14.969 animal well discovers a high-resolution display that below instead of showing 01:16:14.969 --> 01:16:18.290 everything on the train eagle's wing of the mobile now suddenly put it up on a 01:16:18.290 --> 01:16:20.189 large high-resolution 01:16:20.189 --> 01:16:23.970 so these are all kinds things that i'm imagine we could do 01:16:23.970 --> 01:16:28.500 access control is clearly an issue do you want to be lady do that the other 01:16:28.500 --> 01:16:32.280 dining room next door doesn't want to look at what's on his mama 01:16:32.280 --> 01:16:35.849 uh... on your high-resolution display so it's clear that we have to do something 01:16:35.849 --> 01:16:36.869 make sure 01:16:36.869 --> 01:16:38.530 uh... things are promptly control 01:16:38.530 --> 01:16:42.619 weird question over here but i a north microphone just a minute 01:16:42.619 --> 01:16:46.169 thank you for being here and thank you for your contributions mister sir 01:16:46.169 --> 01:16:52.499 uh... my questions pertaining to see and following 01:16:52.499 --> 01:16:56.469 seeing ccp underlying sockets interested 01:16:56.469 --> 01:16:58.149 two point 01:16:58.149 --> 01:17:00.379 seriously 01:17:00.379 --> 01:17:05.259 single stream transport consistent inorder messaging astrology field is the 01:17:05.259 --> 01:17:12.259 right choice speed communicate so first of all answers 01:17:12.469 --> 01:17:17.290 that one of the reasons that insulin saying is you can't intended for 01:17:17.290 --> 01:17:23.190 and so and many party p has one for example http city and town at pcp 01:17:23.190 --> 01:17:25.670 but others are just you pcp 01:17:25.670 --> 01:17:30.449 so committed question no i don't think the pcp_ is the only thing she begins 01:17:30.449 --> 01:17:33.949 it's a astonishing to me that it has actually serviced us as well as it 01:17:33.949 --> 01:17:34.730 happens 01:17:34.730 --> 01:17:38.050 when you think about it's set of constraints and everything else 01:17:38.050 --> 01:17:43.239 but a lot of what happens on the net is uh... that that uses pcp 01:17:43.239 --> 01:17:46.839 does not necessarily use it for subsequent actions so they're uniquely 01:17:46.839 --> 01:17:47.800 streams 01:17:47.800 --> 01:17:52.889 party p streams that are activated by the web based http 01:17:52.889 --> 01:17:58.159 uh... activates a string delivery which is not over jcp it may be over different 01:17:58.159 --> 01:17:59.080 protocol 01:17:59.080 --> 01:18:00.949 and that's all the right thing 01:18:00.949 --> 01:18:03.860 here i think here is to have protocols that are 01:18:03.860 --> 01:18:06.969 appropriate to the application that you're looking for 01:18:06.969 --> 01:18:09.829 uh... so i'm actually encourage people 01:18:09.829 --> 01:18:14.239 to i'll take advantage of fact the Internet is so open to try things out 01:18:14.239 --> 01:18:18.329 there's nothing that's not to directly from on building a whole new set of 01:18:18.329 --> 01:18:19.460 applications 01:18:19.460 --> 01:18:22.570 and we see this kind there's a good example of that where they simply 01:18:22.570 --> 01:18:24.409 download an application 01:18:24.409 --> 01:18:25.699 when you use it 01:18:25.699 --> 01:18:26.719 instead of 01:18:26.719 --> 01:18:29.039 you know anything else in mind that mail 01:18:29.039 --> 01:18:33.249 uh... so handing out frankly I'd be happy to see people invented protocols 01:18:33.249 --> 01:18:36.579 and do a better job for something soon ccp candy 01:18:36.579 --> 01:18:43.370 is so amazing to me and it's been so robust orchestrated time 01:18:43.370 --> 01:18:44.599 out 01:18:44.599 --> 01:18:47.139 action how do you think about privacy 01:18:47.139 --> 01:18:48.560 like well all 01:18:48.560 --> 01:18:52.350 hard times used he he 01:18:52.350 --> 01:18:56.729 in the future is party can be the most valuable assets 01:18:56.729 --> 01:19:03.599 and that using a commonweal percentages stations to the usage of the state 01:19:03.599 --> 01:19:06.159 so is it that well first of all we are intent 01:19:06.159 --> 01:19:10.210 we aware of the importance of preserving priority and privacy and weak 01:19:10.210 --> 01:19:13.420 paid dearly for a couple of mistakes that happen 01:19:13.420 --> 01:19:17.380 elected incidental collection of information when we were doing street 01:19:17.380 --> 01:19:18.689 view 01:19:18.689 --> 01:19:22.730 i think though that privacy is becoming increasingly hard to protect 01:19:22.730 --> 01:19:26.820 the reason is not because who has information we will fight very hard for 01:19:26.820 --> 01:19:30.320 to maintain your privacy we have resisted government demand 01:19:30.320 --> 01:19:34.329 for information more actively and many other companies and also a whole 01:19:34.329 --> 01:19:35.690 a lot of information 01:19:35.690 --> 01:19:39.489 but we do it ourselves and we take pictures of them allows we upload onto 01:19:39.489 --> 01:19:40.659 the website 01:19:40.659 --> 01:19:44.550 some people are discovered being in places where they were doing the people 01:19:44.550 --> 01:19:47.719 you put the pictures that we do this to every friend but it isn't your friend 01:19:47.719 --> 01:19:48.719 somebody 01:19:48.719 --> 01:19:50.000 was not a 01:19:50.000 --> 01:19:53.950 on your facebook or something somebody else's fault jobs at a party said he 01:19:53.950 --> 01:19:57.649 wasn't there america's in trouble because picture a 01:19:57.649 --> 01:20:03.040 so the issue here is learning what part social conventions should be 01:20:03.040 --> 01:20:06.540 to deal with the fact that we have said privacy invasion 01:20:06.540 --> 01:20:08.739 uh... teja lodging available to us 01:20:08.739 --> 01:20:10.159 on the google site 01:20:10.159 --> 01:20:13.570 we do use the data to help figure out how to target as we're very up front 01:20:13.570 --> 01:20:14.770 about that 01:20:14.770 --> 01:20:17.079 but we don't give the day than anybody else 01:20:17.079 --> 01:20:21.219 some people nationally our business model is saldana value to somebody else 01:20:21.219 --> 01:20:22.510 is not needed 01:20:22.510 --> 01:20:25.929 your data is inside our system and it stays there you can get all the data 01:20:25.929 --> 01:20:27.310 back if you want to 01:20:27.310 --> 01:20:31.900 but what is important is that we use the information to deliver advertising 01:20:31.900 --> 01:20:34.280 which is our business model and everybody knows that 01:20:34.280 --> 01:20:38.170 hoping that that information to guess you will actually be of interest to you 01:20:38.170 --> 01:20:40.510 so the purpose behind the information that we're 01:20:40.510 --> 01:20:41.699 accumulating 01:20:41.699 --> 01:20:46.539 uh... is to deliver advertising which is more over to you then than just build 01:20:46.539 --> 01:20:47.840 blanket at 01:20:47.840 --> 01:20:51.110 and for many people that kind of advertising is actually don't you think 01:20:51.110 --> 01:20:55.909 that like advertising it feels like useful 01:20:55.909 --> 01:20:58.000 and say 01:20:58.000 --> 01:20:59.530 i can't hear it 01:20:59.530 --> 01:21:03.030 hoboken given the microphone 01:21:03.030 --> 01:21:09.269 thank you it's a good sense of those data using honest i think i think it was 01:21:09.269 --> 01:21:12.429 well let's see if i were politician i would say that's a hypothetical and i 01:21:12.429 --> 01:21:14.360 don't wanna go ahead 01:21:14.360 --> 01:21:19.209 but it seems to me that that uh... the data is so important and so uh... 01:21:19.209 --> 01:21:23.600 resilient reviews firstly mystery present 01:21:23.600 --> 01:21:26.790 uh... that we would in one trial 01:21:26.790 --> 01:21:30.520 if we did that i don't think company would survive the trip response 01:21:30.520 --> 01:21:32.740 so i'm doubtful certainly the current 01:21:32.740 --> 01:21:34.850 absolutely record 01:21:34.850 --> 01:21:36.919 okay we have time for just or more 01:21:36.919 --> 01:21:40.739 still ahead is that none of them 01:21:40.739 --> 01:21:42.500 uh... thanks again for the talks 01:21:42.500 --> 01:21:46.490 juggle is always of my partner should actually follows up with a couple go of 01:21:46.490 --> 01:21:50.280 regarding uh... that the future of sort of uh... Internet protocols at best but 01:21:50.280 --> 01:21:52.249 dynamic nishant works 01:21:52.249 --> 01:21:55.979 uh... certainly you know we have muscles of mobile phones here but if the gs 01:21:55.979 --> 01:22:00.769 ever wifi goes down the kind of useless um... and certainly for places where 01:22:00.769 --> 01:22:03.989 sat_ jeopardy and that you know backbone was ticket down toward a crisis 01:22:03.989 --> 01:22:07.399 situation where the infrastructure has available the phones and most of these 01:22:07.399 --> 01:22:11.459 devices are not programs to talk to things that aren't next to so uh... i 01:22:11.459 --> 01:22:13.239 mean yet from what they've done uh... 01:22:13.239 --> 01:22:16.979 standpoint you know what was said to be involved in giving them so i really love 01:22:16.979 --> 01:22:17.979 the idea 01:22:17.979 --> 01:22:22.789 but while i was still fairly visiting many dancing on the s 01:22:22.789 --> 01:22:26.590 we prepared a report on public safety networking and that was exactly one of 01:22:26.590 --> 01:22:28.050 the things we pointed out 01:22:28.050 --> 01:22:31.230 this type of a safety net actors to use ltv_ 01:22:31.230 --> 01:22:34.480 and when things are normally okay that's probably all right 01:22:34.480 --> 01:22:37.920 but at some point when you have to train our you know sandy here we have some 01:22:37.920 --> 01:22:39.170 other kind of that 01:22:39.170 --> 01:22:40.610 man made or otherwise 01:22:40.610 --> 01:22:44.880 infrastructure may not be there are all than for example made even his air can't 01:22:44.880 --> 01:22:48.840 get any of the gasoline or daniel or what have you the diesel fuel 01:22:48.840 --> 01:22:50.179 direct generators 01:22:50.179 --> 01:22:54.269 i would really love the idea that our devices could be linked together in a 01:22:54.269 --> 01:22:55.679 message that were 01:22:55.679 --> 01:22:59.150 i think that that's helped the system argues that homework citizen mesh 01:22:59.150 --> 01:23:01.530 network it's automatically some format 01:23:01.530 --> 01:23:07.349 i'm a big fan cooperating that capability into on our devices now 01:23:07.349 --> 01:23:10.630 keep in mind that privacy suggest that we should be encrypting anyway and in 01:23:10.630 --> 01:23:12.320 order to take advantage of that 01:23:12.320 --> 01:23:15.450 you certainly don't want to use a mesh network in which everybody gets taken by 01:23:15.450 --> 01:23:17.650 a hot dogs and mixed metaphors 01:23:17.650 --> 01:23:18.980 when you try to get one 01:23:18.980 --> 01:23:20.469 at the baseball game 01:23:20.469 --> 01:23:24.400 so uh... you really want to be able to use and doing capability that i would 01:23:24.400 --> 01:23:27.100 really like the idea incorporating that 01:23:27.100 --> 01:23:31.139 that would make for much more resilient system 01:23:31.139 --> 01:23:32.949 selling the picture 01:23:32.949 --> 01:23:39.949 okay maybe two more than that i'm ready to go who's got the money 01:23:40.830 --> 01:23:41.909 following up on that 01:23:41.909 --> 01:23:44.870 uh... it seems that most of our programming languages ritually 01:23:44.870 --> 01:23:48.670 antiquated their dirtier towards programming a single clock misco 01:23:48.670 --> 01:23:49.689 computer 01:23:49.689 --> 01:23:52.899 and not on the distributed uh... not not about 01:23:52.899 --> 01:23:55.889 taking advantage of distribution and that's 01:23:55.889 --> 01:23:59.379 patents levels of complex and what do you see I'd heard of a great language 01:23:59.379 --> 01:24:03.429 today bloom coming up quickly 01:24:03.429 --> 01:24:06.340 experimental in which a morning what else and i personally a big banner 01:24:06.340 --> 01:24:08.650 relying which is twenty years old 01:24:08.650 --> 01:24:13.570 uh... and everybody sees between ketchup relying so wbc so i don't actually see a 01:24:13.570 --> 01:24:15.629 number of things going on first of all 01:24:15.629 --> 01:24:19.760 we have program on what the court systems 01:24:19.760 --> 01:24:22.550 m that in itself is a challenge 01:24:22.550 --> 01:24:26.020 uh... the clock speeds are not to keep going up in the otherwise chips a little 01:24:26.020 --> 01:24:28.230 because too much power goes into them so 01:24:28.230 --> 01:24:32.889 uh... we have to deal with that already have a google was well that other thing 01:24:32.889 --> 01:24:34.909 is that uh... 01:24:34.909 --> 01:24:38.520 i really like the idea doing parallel processing 01:24:38.520 --> 01:24:41.260 but look at what we've been able to do in a very 01:24:41.260 --> 01:24:45.250 on way where we split some tests out 01:24:45.250 --> 01:24:47.499 usable parallel strains 01:24:47.499 --> 01:24:51.500 that doesn't require any special programming to do that seti at home 01:24:51.500 --> 01:24:53.099 and the protein folding 01:24:53.099 --> 01:24:55.820 uh... activity who simply parity of simple 01:24:55.820 --> 01:24:57.659 single processor 01:24:57.659 --> 01:25:02.510 software insists it is being executed simultaneously allied member systems 01:25:02.510 --> 01:25:05.030 a lot of our applications at the same 01:25:05.030 --> 01:25:09.340 we we taped testimony waited up into large numbers of karo 01:25:09.340 --> 01:25:10.690 uh... processes 01:25:10.690 --> 01:25:15.690 that don't require simultaneously is of course each corresponding in some 01:25:15.690 --> 01:25:16.739 operation 01:25:16.739 --> 01:25:19.539 we've been able to get away with that for the kinds of applications that we 01:25:19.539 --> 01:25:20.439 had 01:25:20.439 --> 01:25:23.469 but when we start getting into large-scale simulations now it is to be 01:25:23.469 --> 01:25:25.760 very different because then you end up 01:25:25.760 --> 01:25:31.889 having uh... either single instruction stream running against a over i a m data 01:25:31.889 --> 01:25:34.949 that's uh... seven s i n d 01:25:34.949 --> 01:25:37.380 sings traffic stream oracle data stream 01:25:37.380 --> 01:25:43.789 or what you're thinking family more structures statement strings there are 01:25:43.789 --> 01:25:45.360 languages for that 01:25:45.360 --> 01:25:49.679 but some of them are really archaic one of those called put near the grand 01:25:49.679 --> 01:25:52.690 amelia four back in the nineteen seventies 01:25:52.690 --> 01:25:56.210 nobody can figure out how to program usually hard goodyear sounds like 01:25:56.210 --> 01:25:58.830 something that very few people couldn't even speak 01:25:58.830 --> 01:26:01.159 seven or something 01:26:01.159 --> 01:26:02.639 thousand a day 01:26:02.639 --> 01:26:05.460 uh... so i suspect that there is real 01:26:05.460 --> 01:26:08.879 for serious sulfur language development 01:26:08.879 --> 01:26:13.989 and it's a challenge for a cm its members to start pushing direction 01:26:13.989 --> 01:26:17.249 someone actually uh... hope for 01:26:17.249 --> 01:26:20.769 that platforms that are going to become available will return with force us into 01:26:20.769 --> 01:26:23.959 thinking new kinds of programming parents 01:26:23.959 --> 01:26:27.489 some of them are result her a-level languages 01:26:27.489 --> 01:26:30.949 which highlights some of the underlying simplicity complexity 01:26:30.949 --> 01:26:32.159 of the systems 01:26:32.159 --> 01:26:33.670 so idea 01:26:33.670 --> 01:26:37.920 and maybe you have some ideas to pursue that better but if you go and others do 01:26:37.920 --> 01:26:41.640 it sure hope that you make a note to the competency cm 01:26:41.640 --> 01:26:42.980 so we can 01:26:42.980 --> 01:26:45.109 one morning and we really need a break 01:26:45.109 --> 01:26:48.629 his uh... you can follow up on some of the things you mentioned about ah... 01:26:48.629 --> 01:26:50.530 intellectual property and and 01:26:50.530 --> 01:26:54.510 i'm curious about your views on the roles of accuser of the government 01:26:54.510 --> 01:26:57.880 releasing you know more of its own essentially 01:26:57.880 --> 01:27:02.449 uh... at peak is that there is this new is yet another ticket order about uh... 01:27:02.449 --> 01:27:04.209 that came from the white house about 01:27:04.209 --> 01:27:07.539 releasing opened it and through the economic potential molly options roundup 01:27:07.539 --> 01:27:11.070 in data uh... hasn't been a lot of activity a on that front and there's a 01:27:11.070 --> 01:27:14.479 lot more activity on open source in government as well combat but it can be 01:27:14.479 --> 01:27:17.770 kind of nixon's uh... um... basis 01:27:17.770 --> 01:27:21.900 uh... you know as an example i was i was reading at some history uh... of arpan 01:27:21.900 --> 01:27:23.649 and there is an example of 01:27:23.649 --> 01:27:27.099 um... bbn which i guess was one of those who've been companies involved being 01:27:27.099 --> 01:27:28.579 hesitant release 01:27:28.579 --> 01:27:32.550 the uh... stars could i'm behind the uh... i decided to use the packet 01:27:32.550 --> 01:27:36.809 switching computers um... and eventually that you know that uh... turn around and 01:27:36.809 --> 01:27:38.959 and stands up and 01:27:38.959 --> 01:27:42.199 but i'm curious to know what if you're the government what it would really you 01:27:42.199 --> 01:27:45.489 know how do you find the balance between whose opportunist to use it as 01:27:45.489 --> 01:27:49.639 established in open platform that people can bowl economic you know 01:27:49.639 --> 01:27:53.590 cap on top of and abductees verses he did something small you just you know 01:27:53.590 --> 01:27:57.250 it's just a quality piece of software it's less important what you see of the 01:27:57.250 --> 01:28:01.090 sort of opportunities the bounce immigration well at first of all a 01:28:01.090 --> 01:28:05.090 little in this uh... big failure opening 01:28:05.090 --> 01:28:10.189 uh... access to publications opening sister gave reducing 01:28:10.189 --> 01:28:15.159 it was a stiffer and ways to do that not just a city cm properties 01:28:15.159 --> 01:28:17.550 uh... also in the big thing 01:28:17.550 --> 01:28:20.929 of trying to preserve information i mentioned that earlier the digital no 01:28:20.929 --> 01:28:23.770 ideas is that one of those 01:28:23.770 --> 01:28:27.059 uh... i think the increasingly 01:28:27.059 --> 01:28:31.110 we're going to find people and capable of writing their own software we 01:28:31.110 --> 01:28:34.760 wouldn't have remember when spreadsheets came out way back when they're in their 01:28:34.760 --> 01:28:36.719 yes in the early eighties 01:28:36.719 --> 01:28:40.480 everybody became programmers of spreadsheets and they had been formally 01:28:40.480 --> 01:28:42.469 trained to write software 01:28:42.469 --> 01:28:46.299 don't go to imagine that as we work our way up into higher higher level and 01:28:46.299 --> 01:28:49.089 which is that more and more people will have the ability to either to write 01:28:49.089 --> 01:28:50.979 their own software or share 01:28:50.979 --> 01:28:52.090 with each other 01:28:52.090 --> 01:28:59.090 out so if i think that unless we get into this uh... dabbled 01:28:59.420 --> 01:29:03.600 preventing people from sharing their software work sharing what they their 01:29:03.600 --> 01:29:05.590 their intellectual property 01:29:05.590 --> 01:29:08.599 uh... we'll have a higher probability of uh... 01:29:08.599 --> 01:29:11.429 being able to take advantage of everybody's 01:29:11.429 --> 01:29:12.510 skills 01:29:12.510 --> 01:29:15.309 via writing software that's open this more likely 01:29:15.309 --> 01:29:22.309 you source models i don't know whether they disagree organic 01:29:25.619 --> 01:29:27.319 anderson companies that 01:29:27.319 --> 01:29:30.939 uh... that right software that are largely funded by government and it's 01:29:30.939 --> 01:29:35.689 and and the softer is not open uh... over in the same is not open right so so 01:29:35.689 --> 01:29:39.920 well i can tell you that distant cut this short to the records get outta here 01:29:39.920 --> 01:29:43.329 the government's already spoken at least itself 01:29:43.329 --> 01:29:44.530 and the white house 01:29:44.530 --> 01:29:46.260 well sdp_ saying 01:29:46.260 --> 01:29:48.409 the government sponsored stuff 01:29:48.409 --> 01:29:50.469 needs to be system 01:29:50.469 --> 01:29:53.599 well you know there are a whole bunch of questions about winners of the excessive 01:29:53.599 --> 01:29:56.380 over the world to take the get to retain the data 01:29:56.380 --> 01:29:59.469 per period of time for you start your own 01:29:59.469 --> 01:30:01.989 but commercial rights are argument 01:30:01.989 --> 01:30:03.550 that shows up 01:30:03.550 --> 01:30:05.570 uh... when you have government contracts 01:30:05.570 --> 01:30:09.880 and grants and things of that kind and that's a negotiated side if these 01:30:09.880 --> 01:30:13.599 government goes the way it seems to be in eight years in prison 01:30:13.599 --> 01:30:16.959 for people who were working under government grant to make available with 01:30:16.959 --> 01:30:17.919 them 01:30:17.919 --> 01:30:21.190 if the general public will still be an argument over commercial lines 01:30:21.190 --> 01:30:24.800 and so this is not a trivial thing to respond to that certainly the trend 01:30:24.800 --> 01:30:27.199 right now sockets and her 01:30:27.199 --> 01:30:30.569 okay that's all the time we got a ninety-two students but thank you very 01:30:30.569 --> 01:30:30.819 much