0:00:00.089,0:00:03.960 evening thank you for coming out to dc[br]acm's may presentation 0:00:03.960,0:00:06.030 on reinventing the Internet 0:00:06.030,0:00:08.459 i'm andrew conkland cherokee cac_ m 0:00:08.459,0:00:15.459 it's my pleasure to welcome you to[br]google dc 0:00:15.909,0:00:19.349 I'd like to take a moment here to think[br]that people in the dissident possible 0:00:19.349,0:00:22.949 starting with the car let anthony's and[br]google pc 0:00:22.949,0:00:27.220 I'd also like to think the chapter board[br]for helping to put this on and 0:00:27.220,0:00:28.699 all the communication they did 0:00:28.699,0:00:30.800 in fact that lake all of them 0:00:30.800,0:00:32.119 stand up right now 0:00:32.119,0:00:36.500 to show who they are 0:00:36.500,0:00:43.500 so feel free a 0:00:43.530,0:00:49.040 uh... please be sure to grab one of a[br]man to chat with him after this is over 0:00:49.040,0:00:51.149 also that the bank Internet Society for 0:00:51.149,0:00:52.900 uh... the live stream tonight 0:00:52.900,0:00:55.110 and of course uh... the Internet 0:00:55.110,0:00:58.110 for making this possible 0:00:58.110,0:01:01.290 if not for the Internet we would be a[br]running events through large 0:01:01.290,0:01:02.910 bureaucratic committees 0:01:02.910,0:01:04.050 snail mail 0:01:04.050,0:01:05.559 and we would more than 0:01:05.559,0:01:09.610 close we've more closely adhered to the[br]by-laws of dc a cm 0:01:09.610,0:01:16.230 uh... that's a half joke 0:01:16.230,0:01:19.970 uh... the association for computing[br]machinery or a cm dot org is an 0:01:19.970,0:01:23.580 educational scientific computing society[br]for academics and practitioners in 0:01:23.580,0:01:24.950 computing 0:01:24.950,0:01:28.280 it consists of international chapters[br]conferences workshops 0:01:28.280,0:01:30.510 special interest groups 0:01:30.510,0:01:34.960 uh... professional development resources[br]an additional library of white papers 0:01:34.960,0:01:36.149 uh... our chapter 0:01:36.149,0:01:37.900 are chapters focus is 0:01:37.900,0:01:40.619 presented appear which is 0:01:40.619,0:01:44.100 bringing uh... presentations from[br]academic institutions 0:01:44.100,0:01:46.260 uh... into the community 0:01:46.260,0:01:48.320 professional development for appears 0:01:48.320,0:01:55.320 and participation in the in our local[br]community 0:02:00.520,0:02:01.880 for the party 0:02:01.880,0:02:05.530 term is almost up uh... this year and i[br]want to talk a couple of couple 0:02:05.530,0:02:06.640 highlights 0:02:06.640,0:02:09.950 we've had some very interesting[br]presentations in the past year 0:02:09.950,0:02:12.569 here's a short list of them 0:02:12.569,0:02:14.099 most recently computer vision with 0:02:14.099,0:02:18.120 docked with doctor larry davis at the[br]university of maryland 0:02:18.120,0:02:20.079 very good talk uh... soft 0:02:20.079,0:02:23.859 cleansing intrusion tolerance wasn't the[br]one i had no idea about and that was 0:02:23.859,0:02:25.199 about uh... 0:02:25.199,0:02:27.159 virtual machines flops within 0:02:27.159,0:02:29.779 within minutes and then it within forty[br]five seconds 0:02:29.779,0:02:36.249 with data persistence it was a very very[br]compelling taught 0:02:36.249,0:02:39.419 and then there's a couple others here[br]knowledge discovery now analysis 0:02:39.419,0:02:41.499 organizational social capital 0:02:41.499,0:02:44.619 we also a little while back we had a[br]dinner with richard solomon 0:02:44.619,0:02:46.979 of the free software foundation 0:02:46.979,0:02:53.979 that was so sick at dinner 0:02:54.009,0:02:58.629 and now here's a couple of stats so the[br]species yummy dot group we started about 0:02:58.629,0:03:01.989 a year ago we now have forty porn twenty[br]eight members 0:03:01.989,0:03:04.889 there's another meet up group we've been[br]running called bcn idols which is an 0:03:04.889,0:03:06.090 after-hours 0:03:06.090,0:03:07.659 working community 0:03:07.659,0:03:09.620 self-starter meets once a week 0:03:09.620,0:03:14.629 about a forty attendees we had a a[br]congressman come out couple weeks ago 0:03:14.629,0:03:18.999 is having us into uh... the capitol[br]building com complex for core concession 0:03:18.999,0:03:22.169 and there's a lot of interesting doers[br]and salsa orders that are building 0:03:22.169,0:03:24.599 business ventures 0:03:24.599,0:03:26.789 hobbyists freelance 0:03:26.789,0:03:28.709 and other committee other every week 0:03:28.709,0:03:34.499 recommend checking it out 0:03:34.499,0:03:37.819 and then from i three and a half years[br]here helping with the cac_ emma have a 0:03:37.819,0:03:40.959 couple of takeaways 0:03:40.959,0:03:43.659 very obvious ones it would seem on paper 0:03:43.659,0:03:45.870 uh... the first one is 0:03:45.870,0:03:47.999 helped many people around you 0:03:47.999,0:03:50.319 uh... through putting on talks in[br]putting on professional development 0:03:50.319,0:03:52.679 courses 0:03:52.679,0:03:54.449 a lot of people benefit from it 0:03:54.449,0:03:57.759 and you can do that through this chapter 0:03:57.759,0:04:03.149 the more people people to help 0:04:03.149,0:04:04.409 and you grow because of it 0:04:04.409,0:04:07.719 suv that leads into the next slide 0:04:07.719,0:04:08.949 which is 0:04:08.949,0:04:09.750 called for 0:04:09.750,0:04:12.589 she sees him board numbers candidates 0:04:12.589,0:04:15.069 that santa and in a couple days 0:04:15.069,0:04:19.199 and we are going to have our elections[br]next month month as well 0:04:19.199,0:04:22.289 and I'd like to take a moment here to[br]secretly have a community announcement 0:04:22.289,0:04:29.289 they'd like to make 0:04:30.149,0:04:31.050 extender 0:04:31.050,0:04:34.379 i put flyers out on the table out front[br]this is for the 0:04:34.379,0:04:38.759 university of maryland human-computer[br]interaction a lab thirty s annual 0:04:38.759,0:04:44.949 symposium coming up next week in college[br]park ec aisles been doing leading edge 0:04:44.949,0:04:49.059 interface work for decades ob engine[br]item and found that the the lab it's now 0:04:49.059,0:04:52.770 on its third fourth director it's a[br]great event and the flyers out there if 0:04:52.770,0:04:59.770 you can't get a flyer disability i olson[br]posey 'em and you'll find a link to it 0:05:04.699,0:05:06.259 administers the keller 0:05:06.259,0:05:09.409 amanda ceo_ and founder of programming 0:05:09.409,0:05:10.340 uh... it's a new 0:05:10.340,0:05:13.690 all-female software training program in[br]dc 0:05:13.690,0:05:16.889 uh... cell and going to be hosting[br]workshops 0:05:16.889,0:05:19.560 and a full ten week uh... programming[br]fellowship 0:05:19.560,0:05:20.960 for women's learn 0:05:20.960,0:05:25.099 on how to code in python so if anyone is[br]interested in that town looking for 0:05:25.099,0:05:26.740 supporters 0:05:26.740,0:05:33.740 uh... hiring organizations and student[br]self company after its just 0:05:36.050,0:05:39.360 and jeff alexander i'm actually on the[br]board all of the um... technology 0:05:39.360,0:05:41.370 transfer society of dc 0:05:41.370,0:05:45.120 and we're actually having an event at[br]lunch on wednesday called code breakers 0:05:45.120,0:05:50.410 include makers john hume into is a long[br]time and please now as i will talk about 0:05:50.410,0:05:53.569 those and other people involved in world[br]war two 0:05:53.569,0:05:59.400 code development and code breaking uh...[br]in the war if that the nazis 0:05:59.400,0:06:03.240 uh... lessons we can learn about how to[br]manage innovation from that experience 0:06:03.240,0:06:07.229 so it sat down southeast universe user[br]universities association which is just 0:06:07.229,0:06:11.439 over here up on a block away out google[br]tech transfer society dc chapter no 0:06:11.439,0:06:18.439 find thanks 0:06:21.009,0:06:23.720 payments to a breeze a massive from dc[br]government 0:06:23.720,0:06:26.919 dc more nurses that helped support[br]tech sector 0:06:26.919,0:06:30.689 public original basin is that we've got[br]to work with some terms here 0:06:30.689,0:06:33.160 let me know if you have in a bit company[br]or if you 0:06:33.160,0:06:34.100 and 0:06:34.100,0:06:41.100 sobered by the sponsors 0:06:46.650,0:06:51.160 i'm mike nelson slumber government and[br]i'm also very involved in society dc 0:06:51.160,0:06:52.289 chapter 0:06:52.289,0:06:53.639 we're very glad to be 0:06:53.639,0:06:57.199 providing live streaming here but we're[br]also wanted to announce that next 0:06:57.199,0:07:01.389 thursday twenty-third morning we're[br]doing an event at the center for 0:07:01.389,0:07:06.210 strategic and international studies[br]geopolitics Internet governance 0:07:06.210,0:07:13.210 why other people want to take that away[br]from us 0:07:20.310,0:07:24.479 higham shown themselves and you know[br]it's uh... to the community dc adjust 0:07:24.479,0:07:27.650 general announcements we have some very[br]interesting things going on one were 0:07:27.650,0:07:28.680 working with 0:07:28.680,0:07:32.049 uh... teach you to reduce so it's kind[br]of exciting to do that 0:07:32.049,0:07:35.869 and uh... we also have some interesting[br]things going on we're working with 0:07:35.869,0:07:37.979 partnering with the smithsonian soon 0:07:37.979,0:07:41.230 uh... we uh... have a couple of that's[br]coming up soon 0:07:41.230,0:07:44.650 visit our data kennedy dc dot org page 0:07:44.650,0:07:48.009 uh... we'd have 0:07:48.009,0:07:50.530 so if i feel like the governor from[br]texas 0:07:50.530,0:07:52.639 i forgot 0:07:52.639,0:07:59.639 but there's a lot of great lots going on[br]there like you to check it 0:08:04.009,0:08:05.229 pickett 0:08:05.229,0:08:09.039 without a for the delay in its my own[br]urge introduce tonight speaker 0:08:09.039,0:08:12.269 dr irvine surface served as vice[br]president chief Internet evangelists for 0:08:12.269,0:08:14.459 google since october two thousand five 0:08:14.459,0:08:18.809 surf is a former senior vice president[br]technology strategy for mci_ 0:08:18.809,0:08:22.459 widely known as one of the fathers of[br]the Internet surf is the code designer 0:08:22.459,0:08:26.239 of the t cpi_ p protocols in the[br]architecture of the Internet 0:08:26.239,0:08:29.609 he performed this work during his tenure[br]with the us department of defense is 0:08:29.609,0:08:32.010 advanced research projects agency 0:08:32.010,0:08:35.380 surface acquired numerous uh...[br]accolades over the years in ninety four 0:08:35.380,0:08:39.200 he was listed in people magazine's[br]twenty five most intriguing people 0:08:39.200,0:08:42.000 ninety seven you received the us[br]national medal of technology by 0:08:42.000,0:08:43.130 president clinton 0:08:43.130,0:08:44.960 two thousand for the cm 0:08:44.960,0:08:46.400 during award 0:08:46.400,0:08:50.530 two thousand five the presidential medal[br]of freedom by president bush 0:08:50.530,0:08:53.510 and twenty thirteen years appointed by[br]president obama to serve on the national 0:08:53.510,0:08:54.970 science port 0:08:54.970,0:08:58.530 that doctor men served has either[br]started chairs or is currently a fellow 0:08:58.530,0:09:02.710 at virtually every reputable Internet[br]technology related association on the 0:09:02.710,0:09:06.460 planet 0:09:06.460,0:09:10.550 if you're looking for a conversation[br]starter ask him about leonard nimoy 0:09:10.550,0:09:12.650 jet propulsion laboratory 0:09:12.650,0:09:18.360 and what it's like to be married before[br]the Internet existed 0:09:18.360,0:09:20.520 ladies and gentlemen it's with great[br]privilege 0:09:20.520,0:09:23.730 i ask you please join me in welcoming[br]the president of the association for 0:09:23.730,0:09:25.250 computing machinery 0:09:25.250,0:09:32.250 doctor vincent 0:09:34.120,0:09:38.970 well thank you welcome to the uh...[br]google bc daycare center coffee knows 0:09:38.970,0:09:41.490 all the primary colors everything else 0:09:41.490,0:09:47.350 uh... it's really pressure to really is[br]it's a story for me started please that 0:09:47.350,0:09:49.380 the uh... htm chapter 0:09:49.380,0:09:52.309 came to us and yesterday was that[br]possible 0:09:52.309,0:09:54.910 and i certainly appreciate Internet[br]society sound 0:09:54.910,0:09:57.060 strain of this uh... activity 0:09:57.060,0:10:00.370 uh... this is a special kind of event[br]for me in a way because three of the 0:10:00.370,0:10:04.310 organizations that i care a great deal[br]about are represented here high stock 0:10:04.310,0:10:05.540 service 0:10:05.540,0:10:06.810 first president 0:10:06.810,0:10:10.380 pcm racers current president 0:10:10.380,0:10:14.170 uh... where i served as one of the past[br]presidents of uh... means a lot to me to 0:10:14.170,0:10:16.190 see all three of these organizations 0:10:16.190,0:10:19.220 uh... collaborating together tonight's[br]event 0:10:19.220,0:10:22.910 uh... i thought i would mention one[br]thing before the committee formal 0:10:22.910,0:10:24.090 presentation 0:10:24.090,0:10:27.640 uh... that nineteen ninety-four of[br]people magazine thing was a bit of a 0:10:27.640,0:10:31.780 surprise to me i don't quite know how[br]the figured out that that was because 0:10:31.780,0:10:37.360 Internet was not terribly widely known[br]the general public it was 0:10:37.360,0:10:39.940 this is world wide web site show up 0:10:39.940,0:10:43.650 but uh... the irony of all this is that[br]my wife 0:10:43.650,0:10:46.160 lost her she was three 0:10:46.160,0:10:50.540 got to call their implants won in ninety[br]six and one in two thousand six ten 0:10:50.540,0:10:51.710 years later 0:10:51.710,0:10:56.000 her story a soldier manickam wonderfully[br]compelling that they sent the photos 0:10:56.000,0:11:00.580 came out for three days traffickers he[br]got sixties people 0:11:00.580,0:11:03.120 in nineteen ninety eight and that's[br]always been the source of your 0:11:03.120,0:11:08.880 suggestion in the house alone i haven't[br]been able to get back in again 0:11:08.880,0:11:10.760 seconds and what to do it 0:11:10.760,0:11:14.220 mission is that uh... that you'll be[br]pleased i hope to know 0:11:14.220,0:11:17.530 that Internet and the world wide web[br]have been rescued 0:11:17.530,0:11:19.290 it's bright store 0:11:19.290,0:11:23.030 uh... source as a major engineering[br]achievement 0:11:23.030,0:11:26.990 dot that we think of the ec internal[br]organs being nobel prize in computer 0:11:26.990,0:11:29.690 science but there isn't anything for[br]engineering 0:11:29.690,0:11:32.010 well system 0:11:32.010,0:11:36.450 there is a queen elizabeth props for[br]engineering it was uh... established 0:11:36.450,0:11:37.650 last year 0:11:37.650,0:11:38.640 is warranted 0:11:38.640,0:11:41.240 every two years to uh... 0:11:41.240,0:11:44.680 obtuse now up to five people originally[br]up to three 0:11:44.680,0:11:48.490 uh... but now it's up to five it's a one[br]million pound crimes that's about a 0:11:48.490,0:11:50.290 million and a half dollars 0:11:50.290,0:11:54.210 by honda conversely mark increasing 0:11:54.210,0:11:55.260 uh... 0:11:55.260,0:11:56.610 leaders are 0:11:56.610,0:11:59.640 all were announces winners of the first 0:11:59.640,0:12:01.390 team field uh... 0:12:01.390,0:12:02.950 hearing his 0:12:02.950,0:12:04.680 and what is done 0:12:04.680,0:12:06.100 very ironic is that 0:12:06.100,0:12:11.820 my wife and are moving to london for six[br]months it for uh... some work for global 0:12:11.820,0:12:12.459 and 0:12:12.459,0:12:13.730 less than a week 0:12:13.730,0:12:16.530 after we arrived in 0:12:16.530,0:12:19.950 we won't have lunch with the lord mayor[br]of london 0:12:19.950,0:12:23.940 we will go on it and still line with the[br]prime minister 0:12:23.940,0:12:26.379 then we will go house where we 0:12:26.379,0:12:29.259 need queen elizabeth and she will be and[br]each of us a check for two hundred 0:12:29.259,0:12:30.710 thousand pairs 0:12:30.710,0:12:33.590 and that's all 0:12:33.590,0:12:34.450 threat 0:12:34.450,0:12:41.450 is it work 0:12:41.770,0:12:45.930 fun tonight when i thought i would do is[br]just give you a sense for database of 0:12:45.930,0:12:48.870 the current state of the Internet which[br]most of you if you are very familiar 0:12:48.870,0:12:49.740 with 0:12:49.740,0:12:54.370 so the transit we can already see are[br]happy to its only if occasions of those 0:12:54.370,0:12:55.340 trends 0:12:55.340,0:12:59.790 and then some of the problems places[br]that we all have with him 0:12:59.790,0:13:03.800 not only in interest and i feel[br]responsible for pursuing 0:13:03.800,0:13:06.660 let's let's start this was some simple[br]statistics 0:13:06.660,0:13:11.700 uh... these data rather out of date I'd[br]andy organizations that have been 0:13:11.700,0:13:16.350 producing them had not pleased to my[br]knowledge produced anything more reason 0:13:16.350,0:13:19.880 although the last time i was a couple[br]weeks ago so that i could be wrote about 0:13:19.880,0:13:20.800 that 0:13:20.800,0:13:25.179 but the on nine hundred million devices[br]that are visible on the net with uh... 0:13:25.179,0:13:29.210 domain names and generally speaking[br]fixed ip addresses are the servers 0:13:29.210,0:13:33.220 that are on the system they don't count[br]their laptops desktops and other things 0:13:33.220,0:13:36.860 that are episodic reconnected if you add[br]all those 0:13:36.860,0:13:40.350 uh... then you're getting close to the[br]two-and-a-half three billion devices of 0:13:40.350,0:13:44.050 others in any way for us to actually you[br]know that for sure there's no central 0:13:44.050,0:13:48.150 registry for many that in terms of the[br]number of users in mid year last year 0:13:48.150,0:13:52.110 was two point four billion my guess is[br]it could be easy to argue that there are 0:13:52.110,0:13:54.450 three billion users now behind 0:13:54.450,0:13:58.160 uh... it's all part of town because the[br]six-and-a-half billion role models that 0:13:58.160,0:13:59.290 are out there 0:13:59.290,0:14:02.830 uh... some fraction may be on the order[br]of twenty percent today and probably 0:14:02.830,0:14:05.800 fifty or hundred-percent figures from[br]them 0:14:05.800,0:14:10.010 uh... will that help and support from[br]capability and they'll be able to reach 0:14:10.010,0:14:12.290 unity and so a lot of people 0:14:12.290,0:14:14.710 are getting onto the Internet with their[br]first experience 0:14:14.710,0:14:17.790 from a while and for many of them may[br]stay that way 0:14:17.790,0:14:23.280 although as time goes on has cost them[br]their as new technologies arise more and 0:14:23.280,0:14:27.600 more people have multiple devices they[br]can use to interact with the network 0:14:27.600,0:14:31.500 so one meaning that I'd like to leave[br]you with tonight is that i believe that 0:14:31.500,0:14:32.380 our 0:14:32.380,0:14:37.000 early uh... experience interacting with[br]that one device at the time 0:14:37.000,0:14:41.540 will change over time and that we will[br]be using mobile devices concurrently 0:14:41.540,0:14:43.290 to make use of the net i'm wearing blue 0:14:43.290,0:14:46.760 glass today last is connected to the[br]Internet 0:14:46.760,0:14:52.730 uh... actor and often display keep being[br]distracted but if i cap it on the side 0:14:52.730,0:14:57.320 uh... it says uh... is waiting for me to[br]say something so i'll say okay class 0:14:57.320,0:14:59.110 take a picture 0:14:59.110,0:15:02.360 it just took the pictures from the[br]people here this is a voice-activated 0:15:02.360,0:15:05.390 device intracranial read about it 0:15:05.390,0:15:09.400 uh... we expect to have about with two[br]thousand mountain news today were 0:15:09.400,0:15:12.660 wrapping up to ten thousand by the end[br]the year 0:15:12.660,0:15:15.680 and then we don't 0:15:15.680,0:15:20.350 they're not being sold directly people[br]have to apply it may have to offer a a a 0:15:20.350,0:15:24.070 description of what it is a proposed new[br]what we're interested in doing is 0:15:24.070,0:15:28.430 getting these in the hands of people[br]actually investigators say applications 0:15:28.430,0:15:33.020 uh... this week so essendon pay for the[br]use of the fifteen hundred dollars each 0:15:33.020,0:15:33.930 today 0:15:33.930,0:15:37.460 I'd have no clue what it's going to look[br]like in two thousand fourteen to one 0:15:37.460,0:15:41.170 posted as the quantities increase the[br]price p 0:15:41.170,0:15:42.390 potentially come down 0:15:42.390,0:15:46.400 so these are yet again another time[br]device connected to the net and one 0:15:46.400,0:15:51.650 thing and tonight's discussion is[br]increasing number of m 0:15:51.650,0:15:55.870 propriety of devices that are part of[br]the Internet environment 0:15:55.870,0:15:59.320 interesting statistic again this[br]familiar last year 0:15:59.320,0:16:02.090 is where people are we're using the net 0:16:02.090,0:16:06.820 uh... ten years ago north america was[br]absolutely gorgeous number of users and 0:16:06.820,0:16:10.110 as penetration of stalinist penetration 0:16:10.110,0:16:12.560 at slightly under uh... eighty percent 0:16:12.560,0:16:16.530 but he said has the absolute large[br]number of users in china has the largest 0:16:16.530,0:16:20.540 number users pretty in any one country[br]they have five hundred billion flight 0:16:20.540,0:16:22.009 five hundred million people 0:16:22.009,0:16:23.500 half a billion people 0:16:23.500,0:16:28.830 are our online in china today that's the[br]only on the order 0:16:28.830,0:16:31.090 maybe four percent population 0:16:31.090,0:16:34.060 so you can imagine what that look like[br]when we get to 0:16:34.060,0:16:37.380 eighty percent of several uh... more[br]than a billion people 0:16:37.380,0:16:42.740 on their china so it's interesting you[br]know we hear all these stories about 0:16:42.740,0:16:46.199 the chinese eh... attacks on the napkin 0:16:46.199,0:16:49.440 sa which are presumably on true 0:16:49.440,0:16:52.810 but at the same time is fair to note[br]that the 0:16:52.810,0:16:56.730 country is making a huge investment in[br]building Internet infrastructure 0:16:56.730,0:16:59.780 so one interesting question from the[br]sociological point of view was what 0:16:59.780,0:17:00.980 happens 0:17:00.980,0:17:05.050 when they have this enormous fraction of[br]the population although i know he will 0:17:05.050,0:17:08.319 use the system it will be exchange[br]information with each other 0:17:08.319,0:17:09.860 how does that change 0:17:09.860,0:17:14.480 the machines view and i don't know the[br]answer to that but think this is and 0:17:14.480,0:17:16.640 we're watching it very very interesting 0:17:16.640,0:17:21.130 sociological experiment with technology[br]taking place before our eyes this decade 0:17:21.130,0:17:22.309 unfolds 0:17:22.309,0:17:26.439 i think this is going to be among the[br]more interesting affect student 0:17:26.439,0:17:27.709 observed 0:17:27.709,0:17:32.220 europe is the next four just in absolute[br]number of users although you know 0:17:32.220,0:17:36.250 there's a penetration rate is uh...[br]below the north america 0:17:36.250,0:17:39.610 but i've given up making any predictions[br]about europe because they keep getting 0:17:39.610,0:17:42.100 countries to the definition of europe 0:17:42.100,0:17:44.900 change and i don't know what it looks[br]like two years ago 0:17:44.900,0:17:45.850 and the other side 0:17:45.850,0:17:46.890 those who are the 0:17:46.890,0:17:48.410 you can see 0:17:48.410,0:17:50.670 that in africa we're still 0:17:50.670,0:17:55.330 uh... only modestly penetrated this[br]numbers is misleading though because i 0:17:55.330,0:17:59.150 think that that we have seen a very[br]rapid growth of mobile homes 0:17:59.150,0:18:02.830 in africa i don't know what fraction of[br]them are Internet cable 0:18:02.830,0:18:06.620 probably cell fraction twenty percent[br]thirty percent or something 0:18:06.620,0:18:09.060 and what we're seeing is uh... 0:18:09.060,0:18:11.690 individuals or small samples 0:18:11.690,0:18:17.010 uh... willing to pay get on and network[br]or at least again 0:18:17.010,0:18:21.480 which is a significant fraction bearer[br]monthly income 0:18:21.480,0:18:24.600 and yet they they do this because of the[br]time 0:18:24.600,0:18:27.990 and so when people who make up stories[br]about what people do with mobile phones 0:18:27.990,0:18:28.950 in africa 0:18:28.950,0:18:33.020 and they have things like you're getting[br]prices in the city certainly figure 0:18:33.020,0:18:34.940 hours starcraft best 0:18:34.940,0:18:36.179 you know asap 0:18:36.179,0:18:40.149 fact is that they're just slightly[br]higher european social networking review 0:18:40.149,0:18:41.550 all the other things we do 0:18:41.550,0:18:44.890 of all the data rates that they have[br]available or more limited so some things 0:18:44.890,0:18:47.100 they don't drive streaming video 0:18:47.100,0:18:48.910 until the data rates are adequate 0:18:48.910,0:18:53.440 but their use is not terribly different[br]than ours except order patients are on 0:18:53.440,0:18:55.480 the whole conditions 0:18:55.480,0:18:58.740 well this look now at the current[br]Internet and see what's happening to 0:18:58.740,0:19:03.460 uh... everybody determines well aware[br]that we ran out of uh... conversion for 0:19:03.460,0:19:04.740 interest rates 0:19:04.740,0:19:07.520 in february of two thousand one 0:19:07.520,0:19:10.410 and uh... that uh... was sort of um... 0:19:10.410,0:19:14.070 i don't know that it was an[br]embarrassment for box i mean there was a 0:19:14.070,0:19:15.600 interesting surprised 0:19:15.600,0:19:19.789 weblink refers to in the design in[br]nineteen seventy three forty years ago 0:19:19.789,0:19:22.730 and the question came up how how many[br]addresses should be out on this 0:19:22.730,0:19:24.980 experimental Internet 0:19:24.980,0:19:28.710 it we didn't know the answer to that so[br]we said well let's see 0:19:28.710,0:19:32.450 how many computers will there be a per[br]country 0:19:32.450,0:19:36.200 at the time we were doing this machines[br]we are using were big drinker machines 0:19:36.200,0:19:39.760 we thought we could meet into any of[br]those they take a boiler room in there 0:19:39.760,0:19:42.049 expensive but we said let's go 0:19:42.049,0:19:45.779 be crazy about we allocate twenty four[br]bits of address space for the machine 0:19:45.779,0:19:47.190 sixteen million 0:19:47.190,0:19:51.300 you know what we thought was mainframes[br]per country croats overjoyed 0:19:51.300,0:19:53.310 billy said how many countries are there 0:19:53.310,0:19:56.080 we didn't know there was no need to look[br]it up 0:19:56.080,0:19:57.850 sold stuff 0:19:57.850,0:20:01.669 itself the weekly guest company cartoon 0:20:01.669,0:20:04.770 so uh... added that he said well i mean 0:20:04.770,0:20:08.390 it's already per country and i thought[br]well just got the organ it wasn't 0:20:08.390,0:20:10.279 exactly expensive yet 0:20:10.279,0:20:12.380 so maybe they'll be cooper country 0:20:12.380,0:20:16.720 you know it's worked for competition so[br]we said twenty taxes two fifty six i 0:20:16.720,0:20:18.580 take this plus twenty four 0:20:18.580,0:20:19.810 thirty two-bit 0:20:19.810,0:20:23.710 we actually debated late nineteen[br]seventy seven just as the Internet 0:20:23.710,0:20:27.930 protocols were being standardized[br]whether we expanded our space what we 0:20:27.930,0:20:31.730 wanted very awake addresses in the[br]programmers hated the idea to sing waste 0:20:31.730,0:20:35.179 computer seconds finding difficult in[br]the packet because the gurgling 0:20:35.179,0:20:36.400 to india 0:20:36.400,0:20:39.230 uh... then somebody said how about our[br]twenty-two 0:20:39.230,0:20:43.170 address space at the time we were on a[br]fifty to a bit backbone 0:20:43.170,0:20:46.850 and the band frankly an awful lot of[br]these changes were fully flex 0:20:46.850,0:20:49.630 interactions character a character a[br]complex 0:20:49.630,0:20:51.540 it over again 0:20:51.540,0:20:55.260 one character going back forth with two[br]hundred fifty six bases source and 0:20:55.260,0:20:56.740 destination address 0:20:56.740,0:20:59.990 investment semi 0:20:59.990,0:21:03.560 there was not there to visit enough we[br]all have scared in the mid-nineteen 0:21:03.560,0:21:07.850 ninety houston started uh... work on[br]what was going to be calling png_ for 0:21:07.850,0:21:09.260 next year 0:21:09.260,0:21:10.850 eventually that uh... 0:21:10.850,0:21:14.799 produce the ideally six address please[br]bob blendon others has developed 0:21:14.799,0:21:18.340 one hundred twenty eight bits and pieces[br]sell in a very far away 0:21:18.340,0:21:19.589 has been using 0:21:19.589,0:21:20.960 are no Internet 0:21:20.960,0:21:24.650 and tone down the production version is[br]now open for any officially released on 0:21:24.650,0:21:26.620 june sixth two thousand twelve 0:21:26.620,0:21:30.590 i have favored a list of everyone of you[br]if you will go to whichever eyes pe 0:21:30.590,0:21:35.540 surprising with Internet address please[br]and ask them what the jury piece explain 0:21:35.540,0:21:37.890 when can i get i could be six this is[br]important 0:21:37.890,0:21:39.920 because it's very very slow 0:21:39.920,0:21:44.280 in terms of penetration mostly because[br]the irs_ user about terror 0:21:44.280,0:21:47.490 a lot of their software is already[br]capable routers havent 0:21:47.490,0:21:51.830 ups_ devices have hiking he sticks to[br]the ice peter turning out there saying 0:21:51.830,0:21:52.299 in 0:21:52.299,0:21:53.490 disingenuous 0:21:53.490,0:21:58.700 nobody's asking for course and asking[br]for ordered users don't know what he for 0:21:58.700,0:21:59.950 eighty six it is 0:21:59.950,0:22:01.470 mission hefty 0:22:01.470,0:22:05.790 when you do and so if you will help us[br]embarrass them or force in the too many 0:22:05.790,0:22:09.210 people were asking for anything you want[br]to thank you for that 0:22:09.210,0:22:10.980 yeah uh... 0:22:10.980,0:22:13.510 does try to explain what the[br]implications of a hundred and twenty 0:22:13.510,0:22:17.700 eight two dresses are remember saying[br]time that that every electronic universe 0:22:17.700,0:22:19.770 could have its own web page 0:22:19.770,0:22:24.360 until somebody from cal tech blog[br]renouncing got cancer futures teddy 0:22:24.360,0:22:28.580 electrons in the universe in europe by[br]fifty orders of magnitude 0:22:28.580,0:22:30.560 so i don't say that anymore 0:22:30.560,0:22:31.230 uh... yeah 0:22:31.230,0:22:34.830 thing is happening is that the maintains[br]its been bitten in latin characters you 0:22:34.830,0:22:35.620 know 0:22:35.620,0:22:38.340 can be written in dot characters in it 0:22:38.340,0:22:39.820 using the income 0:22:39.820,0:22:43.220 carousel which coming two hundred[br]thousand more characters 0:22:43.220,0:22:48.970 that same universities using html amex[br]and all four of the web so that makes 0:22:48.970,0:22:52.929 weapons meaning system much more[br]compatible 0:22:52.929,0:22:58.070 i cut hike in the Internet corporation[br]for signings and overseas and initiated 0:22:58.070,0:23:01.270 program of expansion of the generic[br]top-level domains 0:23:01.270,0:23:04.110 over two thousand applications were[br]received 0:23:04.110,0:23:09.010 for these units many or conflict because[br]people saint martin's 0:23:09.010,0:23:12.810 but uh... certainly on the order of[br]fifteen hundred of them 0:23:12.810,0:23:14.250 uh... are unique 0:23:14.250,0:23:17.910 and the question you know it's which[br]ones will actually become all registered 0:23:17.910,0:23:20.950 as top-level domains that process is[br]simple 0:23:20.950,0:23:22.769 so this is a major expansion 0:23:22.769,0:23:25.130 uh... the namespace 0:23:25.130,0:23:29.750 belly all the standard any system has a[br]number of or abilities 0:23:29.750,0:23:33.300 uh... one of which is uh... poisoning of[br]the uh... 0:23:33.300,0:23:34.860 nameserver cash 0:23:34.860,0:23:38.990 and so in order to get rid of borja[br]geetac and inhibit out the effects of 0:23:38.990,0:23:40.580 that kind of poison 0:23:40.580,0:23:43.310 database system security uh... 0:23:43.310,0:23:48.160 uh... architecture's being deployed[br]basically it's just been reciting abhi 0:23:48.160,0:23:51.010 binding between the two main ninety[br]address 0:23:51.010,0:23:56.710 so when you look up to translate you[br]dress you can ask for site response 0:23:56.710,0:23:58.630 if you get a correct response back 0:23:58.630,0:24:01.390 such exim in cricket jackson 0:24:01.390,0:24:02.710 uh... is uh... 0:24:02.710,0:24:04.820 uh... matches what you expect 0:24:04.820,0:24:08.870 then at least you have some confidence[br]in the integrity of the bundy someone 0:24:08.870,0:24:09.990 hasn't gone in 0:24:09.990,0:24:13.659 modified that binding or factored into[br]claims 0:24:13.659,0:24:16.840 because they don't have the private tv[br]would have been used to sign 0:24:16.840,0:24:21.370 that cancer that's being deployed around[br]the entire rooms and is signed 0:24:21.370,0:24:24.660 and a number of the second radio talk[br]over the means 0:24:24.660,0:24:25.580 ourself 0:24:25.580,0:24:28.330 and some of the second your side as well 0:24:28.330,0:24:32.720 a similar idea uh... has come up with[br]regard to the routing system 0:24:32.720,0:24:36.390 no remember that this whole thing was[br]developed in a time when it was mostly 0:24:36.390,0:24:39.049 geeks who are doing work in a trust each[br]other 0:24:39.049,0:24:42.169 now we're in an environment where you[br]can't do that anymore so it would have 0:24:42.169,0:24:43.409 to retrofit 0:24:43.409,0:24:45.430 mechanisms that will deal with 0:24:45.430,0:24:47.480 possible components 0:24:47.480,0:24:51.700 indication running system basically in[br]order to become part of the net 0:24:51.700,0:24:53.809 dissonant notes that you have 0:24:53.809,0:24:58.360 you're responsible for keeping track of[br]the address space total system number 0:24:58.360,0:24:59.130 or 0:24:59.130,0:25:02.370 and uh... my idea of this uh... 0:25:02.370,0:25:03.760 spaces this 0:25:03.760,0:25:06.960 and that propagates around through the[br]routing system the problem is you come 0:25:06.960,0:25:07.950 on 0:25:07.950,0:25:11.740 and when you lie about this and you look[br]like a somebody says estates 0:25:11.740,0:25:15.800 in order to defend against that it has[br]been proposed that night it implemented 0:25:15.800,0:25:19.400 there we go with a similar kind of[br]digital binding doing some reading 0:25:19.400,0:25:21.470 between the eco-system number 0:25:21.470,0:25:24.560 in the idea just based which it is[br]responsible for 0:25:24.560,0:25:27.360 so that when you're doing well and[br]updates you can actually check to see 0:25:27.360,0:25:31.630 where the parties use animals in the[br]states actually has the authority 0:25:31.630,0:25:35.090 there's some complexity this because not[br]all routing announcements come from the 0:25:35.090,0:25:35.880 edge 0:25:35.880,0:25:39.720 they propagated through the net so some[br]of the announcements are coming from 0:25:39.720,0:25:42.680 and so you have to be able to verify[br]that the whole chain 0:25:42.680,0:25:45.030 announcement is actually down 0:25:45.030,0:25:49.010 and so that makes it somewhat more[br]complicated which is why hasn't been 0:25:49.010,0:25:50.090 deployed yet 0:25:50.090,0:25:53.070 it's in the process of being 0:25:53.070,0:25:55.640 now i'm going to talk more about sensor[br]networks 0:25:55.640,0:26:00.250 the smartly program and mobile devices[br]so this is just a reminder again 0:26:00.250,0:26:04.490 in our Internet environment these[br]treatments are rapidly 0:26:04.490,0:26:05.769 uh... filling up 0:26:05.769,0:26:06.760 system 0:26:06.760,0:26:11.080 now we all anchor recognize that devices[br]are showing up on the net i certainly 0:26:11.080,0:26:12.610 had anticipated 0:26:12.610,0:26:16.559 uh... he's actually uh... this is an[br]order striking out the picture larry 0:26:16.559,0:26:21.170 page where you go class as another[br]Internet enabled device 0:26:21.170,0:26:24.900 but i can remember being very surprised[br]if somebody came in and said to me 0:26:24.900,0:26:27.659 they had just ended an animal picture[br]frame 0:26:27.659,0:26:31.460 yet and i couldn't imagine what would[br]that mean all i think it was it sounds 0:26:31.460,0:26:35.010 as useless as a electric for kickball 0:26:35.010,0:26:40.260 uh... but in fact it's obviously uh...[br]very useful and many of us at the gym 0:26:40.260,0:26:44.230 we have a wellesley upload or pictures[br]to website pictures are downloaded into 0:26:44.230,0:26:45.210 the 0:26:45.210,0:26:46.490 with the end of the uh... 0:26:46.490,0:26:48.250 Internet naval picture frame 0:26:48.250,0:26:51.880 and we have an opportunity to watch[br]what's going on in the family so it's 0:26:51.880,0:26:56.730 kind of a crude form of uh... a little[br]closer face book inouye insist personal 0:26:56.730,0:27:00.150 its opponents actually rather nice for[br]the grandparents because he can upload 0:27:00.150,0:27:02.120 pictures of the grandchildren 0:27:02.120,0:27:03.390 nieces and nephews 0:27:03.390,0:27:06.810 and see what they're doing bellevue way[br]this works you know who is in the 0:27:06.810,0:27:11.320 downloads the frame down those images[br]from some website so now securities 0:27:11.320,0:27:14.780 issue because of the website gets hacked[br]the grandparents may see pictures of 0:27:14.780,0:27:16.870 what we hope is not the grand jury 0:27:16.870,0:27:22.299 so now we have to worry about insecurity[br]at home as well as it org 0:27:22.299,0:27:25.410 uh... there are things that look like[br]telephones that are really voice over at 0:27:25.410,0:27:26.670 the devices 0:27:26.670,0:27:30.639 uh... the guy in the middle has built an[br]Internet enabled surfboard 0:27:30.639,0:27:34.929 uh... i don't know about how did it and[br]send him water waiting for the next wave 0:27:34.929,0:27:39.260 thinking you know i had a laptop myself[br]or it could be surfing the Internet away 0:27:39.260,0:27:42.030 let's let's do it as a laptop in this[br]report 0:27:42.030,0:27:45.840 and uh... and then go for the wifi[br]service back to the rescue check on the 0:27:45.840,0:27:46.450 beach 0:27:46.450,0:27:48.100 myself as a surprise 0:27:48.100,0:27:51.660 so if you want to go surf the net while[br]you're aware this is for you 0:27:51.660,0:27:55.250 paisa tells us that everyone over the[br]world will someday have an idea dress 0:27:55.250,0:27:59.450 and i can tell jokes about that anymore[br]because somebody sent me and ideally six 0:27:59.450,0:28:00.910 radio naval 0:28:00.910,0:28:02.700 led_ whitehall 0:28:02.700,0:28:04.120 uh... and works 0:28:04.120,0:28:07.530 uh... i have a a tv sets at work[br]writing in the house and you can turn 0:28:07.530,0:28:09.980 the lights are but that will get it 0:28:09.980,0:28:13.409 uh... the interesting thing is that[br]uh... 0:28:13.409,0:28:14.100 this 0:28:14.100,0:28:17.090 no one can you turn it off green collars[br]programmer 0:28:17.090,0:28:19.440 you can interrogate find out 0:28:19.440,0:28:22.309 so these sorts of things are becoming[br]reality 0:28:22.309,0:28:23.809 so if you on 0:28:23.809,0:28:28.160 have only imagine this is a science[br]fiction of speculation it is not 0:28:28.160,0:28:31.460 are in fact uh... you know i just[br]realized something 0:28:31.460,0:28:35.760 he'd seen inside hiding behind it 0:28:35.760,0:28:38.899 okay hiking 0:28:38.899,0:28:40.160 uh... 0:28:40.160,0:28:42.620 so uh... this is my sense is that at[br]home 0:28:42.620,0:28:47.039 uh... this is an iv six radio net it's[br]uh... commercial pops is not mean that 0:28:47.039,0:28:49.649 in the garage over the side of him 0:28:49.649,0:28:51.929 uh... the communities is on trial 0:28:51.929,0:28:55.130 which is a partner at cisco systems a[br]couple of years ago 0:28:55.130,0:28:58.850 scissor site all wingers 0:28:58.850,0:29:00.170 their sampling 0:29:00.170,0:29:01.500 the uh... 0:29:01.500,0:29:03.020 uh... like level 0:29:03.020,0:29:05.990 humidity and temperature in each room in[br]the house 0:29:05.990,0:29:07.310 every five minutes 0:29:07.310,0:29:11.510 and that is propagated through this[br]network sensors so the sensors are 0:29:11.510,0:29:13.590 actually store forward realize 0:29:13.590,0:29:15.260 they're running six votes 0:29:15.260,0:29:17.710 and i i p e six on top of that 0:29:17.710,0:29:21.840 and so the date is accumulated in the[br]server an interactive based 0:29:21.840,0:29:26.380 so you're only he can do this right dot[br]and my father once that is the end of 0:29:26.380,0:29:29.790 the year i will have very good[br]information about how well he had been 0:29:29.790,0:29:32.140 awake and air conditioning 0:29:32.140,0:29:34.539 instead of anecdotal information may[br]have 0:29:34.539,0:29:37.230 real uh... engineering data story 0:29:37.230,0:29:38.929 is an engineering like that 0:29:38.929,0:29:41.190 now one of the house is the one side 0:29:41.190,0:29:45.729 so that one is a log as the temperature[br]goes above sixty degrees fahrenheit 0:29:45.729,0:29:49.480 i get 'em uh... nasa now some of the[br]laptop 0:29:49.480,0:29:50.970 what is warming up 0:29:50.970,0:29:52.660 i remember going into love 0:29:52.660,0:29:55.970 lawrence not little argonne national[br]laboratory 0:29:55.970,0:29:59.440 effort three day visit just as i was[br]walking into the building all of those 0:29:59.440,0:30:01.649 opportunities dot com 0:30:01.649,0:30:06.029 uh... you know that you just broke into[br]the sixties resign barrier no one was 0:30:06.029,0:30:07.330 home at the time 0:30:07.330,0:30:10.760 and so every five minutes for the next[br]three days i kept getting this little 0:30:10.760,0:30:13.010 message the airline is winding up 0:30:13.010,0:30:16.940 so i called your truck guys they said[br]you have remote actuators he said yes 0:30:16.940,0:30:19.740 they say they have strong authentication[br]on them because i have a 0:30:19.740,0:30:22.620 fifteen-year-old next door to go on and[br]messing with my 0:30:22.620,0:30:26.929 wine cellar and he said yes so that's[br]the weekend project to install 0:30:26.929,0:30:30.090 benedetto thinking you know i can[br]probably tell somebody has gone into the 0:30:30.090,0:30:33.429 winds are blowing away cuz i can see the[br]lexicon of her 0:30:33.429,0:30:35.620 but i don't know what they didn't care 0:30:35.620,0:30:37.970 so ok solution to this 0:30:37.970,0:30:41.030 is to put our fit_ chips on the spot 0:30:41.030,0:30:45.770 what then i can do an instantaneous[br]inventory to see that is why it is what 0:30:45.770,0:30:47.990 the seller without my permission 0:30:47.990,0:30:49.910 and down I'd miss it 0:30:49.910,0:30:53.650 describing this look brilliant design[br]you and your friends and he told me 0:30:53.650,0:30:55.110 there was about 0:30:55.110,0:30:58.500 i said winning is about to see what you[br]can go into the wine cellar red wine and 0:30:58.500,0:31:03.610 leave the bob so now we have to put[br]sensors in the court 0:31:03.610,0:31:07.200 and if i was reading that we might as[br]well sent esters to find out whether one 0:31:07.200,0:31:11.330 is ready to drink so before you on the[br]bottle he would carry the court 0:31:11.330,0:31:14.890 and if that's the bala got thirty year[br]issue something that's the one that 0:31:14.890,0:31:19.090 you're doing awesome cuz he doesn't know[br]the difference 0:31:19.090,0:31:23.220 not actually out this sort of thing is[br]going to be very common 0:31:23.220,0:31:25.050 not so everyone's on the part 0:31:25.050,0:31:29.000 although if i i i had someone come out[br]with in prime time 0:31:29.000,0:31:31.480 are fit_ done 0:31:31.480,0:31:35.600 uh... yeah apa spartan tanks and we[br]actually wandered around my cell and we 0:31:35.600,0:31:38.640 picked up every single lots of exactly 0:31:38.640,0:31:41.050 this is not it's not a crazy idea 0:31:41.050,0:31:44.570 uh... the thing is that we will have[br]sensor networks and use them for 0:31:44.570,0:31:47.330 environmental control isn't for security 0:31:47.330,0:31:51.020 will use them for variety of things to[br]only 0:31:51.020,0:31:54.480 residence or business or manufacturing[br]facility 0:31:54.480,0:31:56.830 jimmy management control 0:31:56.830,0:32:02.310 some of these things will be very much a[br]part of the union 0:32:02.310,0:32:07.420 now there's an interesting question i'm[br]going to use the sensor network 0:32:07.420,0:32:09.590 as it's cool 0:32:09.590,0:32:12.340 walking us through bunch of questions 0:32:12.340,0:32:14.750 now the questions are very specific to 0:32:14.750,0:32:16.720 the notion of sensor network 0:32:16.720,0:32:21.450 architecture m large numbers of devices[br]that have to be configured and access 0:32:21.450,0:32:22.600 control 0:32:22.600,0:32:24.379 but i want to as we go through 0:32:24.379,0:32:25.950 this particular 0:32:25.950,0:32:28.980 discussion i want you to be thinking[br]generally about 0:32:28.980,0:32:32.400 Internet enable appliances are all kinds 0:32:32.400,0:32:35.020 having maybe managed and controlled 0:32:35.020,0:32:37.670 and wanting them to be 0:32:37.670,0:32:43.649 isolated from parties to might want to[br]use them for and nefarious purposes 0:32:43.649,0:32:46.850 anything that we don't want is the[br]headline that says 0:32:46.850,0:32:50.850 that there was a get distributed denial[br]of service attack 0:32:50.850,0:32:54.830 against bank of america by every[br]refrigerator in america 0:32:54.830,0:32:58.889 accel we need to be able to think of[br]ways through 0:32:58.889,0:33:01.800 how he will configure install 0:33:01.800,0:33:02.729 offering 0:33:02.729,0:33:03.840 protect 0:33:03.840,0:33:05.420 uh... and also move 0:33:05.420,0:33:09.290 move from one place and others to[br]imagine that you take your places with 0:33:09.290,0:33:10.220 you 0:33:10.220,0:33:12.260 they have idea dresses and 0:33:12.260,0:33:15.140 meeting that will be a new life he[br]addresses when they were installed new 0:33:15.140,0:33:19.220 residents how we do all of that 0:33:19.220,0:33:21.710 expecting every single 0:33:21.710,0:33:23.270 could become an expert 0:33:23.270,0:33:27.100 in configuring nike devices they[br]shouldn't have to do that you have to 0:33:27.100,0:33:28.649 know anything about 0:33:28.649,0:33:29.990 and so 0:33:29.990,0:33:34.030 what they remove series of design and[br]operational should there be single 0:33:34.030,0:33:34.999 controller 0:33:34.999,0:33:39.300 for all the devices should there be a[br]controller for each class of the bonds 0:33:39.300,0:33:42.750 how should we in device u 0:33:42.750,0:33:44.939 connect up with the poultry controller 0:33:44.939,0:33:49.909 one of your apartment building and[br]endure controller detects devices that 0:33:49.909,0:33:51.679 are in the into an apartment 0:33:51.679,0:33:55.700 this is certainly a great we probably[br]have with that 0:33:55.700,0:33:59.830 uh... electric blanket where the two[br]parties have the control switch 0:33:59.830,0:34:03.760 was turning up to get warmer the others[br]turning down a bit cooler aggressive 0:34:03.760,0:34:05.149 across the net 0:34:05.149,0:34:09.369 uh... so this is their these questions[br]that are actually pretty hard 0:34:09.369,0:34:12.739 and i think some of us are going to have[br]to figure out what's the right way to do 0:34:12.739,0:34:13.269 it 0:34:13.269,0:34:15.179 problem for the on wireless 0:34:15.179,0:34:19.059 well depending on where they were[br]installed you may or may not have been 0:34:19.059,0:34:21.940 radio connectivity even just inside the[br]house 0:34:21.940,0:34:25.350 so some of them i have to be wired[br]summary wireless employees different 0:34:25.350,0:34:26.649 frequencies 0:34:26.649,0:34:29.149 now this is easy and every device 0:34:29.149,0:34:32.799 that is sold to be part of the sensor s 0:34:32.799,0:34:36.119 so i have to be adaptable to different[br]conditions depending 0:34:36.119,0:34:38.679 once found a place for install 0:34:38.679,0:34:40.220 uh... on the factory floor 0:34:40.220,0:34:44.329 uh... there are similar kinds of scale[br]questions that occurred once again very 0:34:44.329,0:34:45.269 important 0:34:45.269,0:34:46.700 to make sure that the user 0:34:46.700,0:34:50.379 control only by parties that have the[br]authority to do that you don't want 0:34:50.379,0:34:53.509 some random person halfway around the[br]world turned on 0:34:53.509,0:34:56.629 in manufacturing device and possibly or 0:34:56.629,0:34:58.089 one of the workers 0:34:58.089,0:35:01.339 uh... they are the question is whether[br]the devices interact with each other 0:35:01.339,0:35:04.559 whether they'll be directly nationalized 0:35:04.559,0:35:07.999 and here we get into the interesting[br]example one of the art rock system where 0:35:07.999,0:35:10.129 the devices are released for jun 0:35:10.129,0:35:11.199 in addition 0:35:11.199,0:35:13.149 providing uh... 0:35:13.149,0:35:15.459 censored 0:35:15.459,0:35:16.869 census data 0:35:16.869,0:35:18.269 process today 0:35:18.269,0:35:21.260 uh... and then uh... providing it to[br]some 0:35:21.260,0:35:22.219 king lear 0:35:22.219,0:35:25.379 but they also are part of that work[br]which is something to happen 0:35:25.379,0:35:27.709 uh... to uh... local radio condition 0:35:27.709,0:35:28.890 so on 0:35:28.890,0:35:29.950 this is an d 0:35:29.950,0:35:33.079 the questions or almost endless 0:35:33.079,0:35:34.949 here's some more here 0:35:34.949,0:35:36.839 and decide what ideas 0:35:36.839,0:35:41.399 they should have you generate the state[br]using ninety b six presumably because 0:35:41.399,0:35:43.059 before useful 0:35:43.059,0:35:44.449 but there is a 0:35:44.449,0:35:46.729 a question about previous should be 0:35:46.729,0:35:49.079 what you have this is the 0:35:49.079,0:35:51.130 another remembered 0:35:51.130,0:35:55.160 we're out of discovery online discover[br]other devices that are part of the 0:35:55.160,0:35:55.989 system 0:35:55.989,0:35:59.939 uh... some of you will know a little bit[br]about convoluted system works if you use 0:35:59.939,0:36:02.099 it you know that we can devices are 0:36:02.099,0:36:04.019 in close enough proximity 0:36:04.019,0:36:05.610 uh... one of them were 0:36:05.610,0:36:07.369 present 0:36:07.369,0:36:10.749 which you you enter into the other one[br]in order to confirm that you want to do 0:36:10.749,0:36:11.869 my cv 0:36:11.869,0:36:16.709 connected now the question is whether[br]every device in this garment is uh... 0:36:16.709,0:36:19.159 hazardous waste even though we were not 0:36:19.159,0:36:22.009 and if it doesn't mean we start thinking[br]or hawaii 0:36:22.009,0:36:25.989 how to manage these things and it could[br]be the journal while becomes the devices 0:36:25.989,0:36:30.559 used not only to control and that also[br]to configure 0:36:30.559,0:36:34.619 and so I'd be in the possibilities here[br]are fairly uh... 0:36:34.619,0:36:35.959 complex 0:36:35.959,0:36:39.420 and we're gonna have to figure out how[br]to make that work 0:36:39.420,0:36:43.589 what about what to it's very attracted[br]to be a little website 0:36:43.589,0:36:48.559 and say i would like to using uh...[br]webpage diminish my devices 0:36:48.559,0:36:50.859 and if we standardize things properly 0:36:50.859,0:36:55.489 then third parties will be able to offer[br]service to manager systems fourteen 0:36:55.489,0:36:58.189 think about entertainment you know about[br]you 0:36:58.189,0:37:02.089 i have lots of boxes at home and have[br]infrared controllers for 0:37:02.089,0:37:05.139 and usually i fumble around for a while[br]trying to figure out which controllers 0:37:05.139,0:37:06.759 the right one for which box 0:37:06.759,0:37:10.389 and when i finally got that right that's[br]the controller that bad 0:37:10.389,0:37:13.230 so if we put all of them are going well[br]network 0:37:13.230,0:37:16.510 and we use the mobile which is also a[br]little old man is the controller of the 0:37:16.510,0:37:19.099 things that happen can be in court 0:37:19.099,0:37:23.809 uh... then that means third parties[br]intervenes english if you'll allow them 0:37:23.809,0:37:27.180 would be the manager of the devices and[br]all you do is go to the web sites and 0:37:27.180,0:37:30.529 what the sound of movies please populate[br]all various devices 0:37:30.529,0:37:32.510 which is entertainment country 0:37:32.510,0:37:34.129 is of interest to me 0:37:34.129,0:37:37.650 so out is just incredibly uh... 0:37:37.650,0:37:40.499 rich character what about state[br]information 0:37:40.499,0:37:42.769 if you have uh... 0:37:42.769,0:37:45.089 things that are are gathering data about 0:37:45.089,0:37:49.619 the temperature humidity levels in my[br]case or other things about house 0:37:49.619,0:37:52.320 you may be able to infer whether[br]anybody's at home 0:37:52.320,0:37:53.879 how many people were home 0:37:53.879,0:37:54.770 uh... went up 0:37:54.770,0:37:58.299 in the morning on active depending on[br]what information is available 0:37:58.299,0:38:01.519 that could pose a security hazard 0:38:01.519,0:38:04.039 especially if they can't figure out[br]nobody's home 0:38:04.039,0:38:07.759 so again this is a question of what[br]information should be available 0:38:07.759,0:38:11.229 who should have access to it and control[br]that 0:38:11.229,0:38:17.369 so there's just goes it's a long long[br]listed updates that we're cope with 0:38:17.369,0:38:20.119 here's another interesting things that[br]are part of 0:38:20.119,0:38:24.469 uh... typically cable provider[br]configures these things up for you 0:38:24.469,0:38:27.219 uh... and it operates the controller[br]forty 0:38:27.219,0:38:31.139 and offers web access is uh... sheila to[br]control the system 0:38:31.139,0:38:34.619 and if so how boxes of these on american[br]interact with each other like charity 0:38:34.619,0:38:35.839 art 0:38:35.839,0:38:40.529 so that's a common example but one thing[br]what happens if we transform decency 0:38:40.529,0:38:43.199 devices there i could be sixty 0:38:43.199,0:38:46.169 and they have the ability to reach out[br]and use the Internet in addition to 0:38:46.169,0:38:47.230 everything else 0:38:47.230,0:38:48.499 now they become 0:38:48.499,0:38:52.579 since it could be streaming video from[br]other sources sending cable television 0:38:52.579,0:38:53.479 company 0:38:53.479,0:38:57.349 and that interestingly enough creates a[br]conflict right because the cable tv 0:38:57.349,0:39:00.449 guide supplying him with broadband[br]access to the Internet 0:39:00.449,0:39:01.599 discovers that 0:39:01.599,0:39:05.349 you're using the broadband Internet to[br]get access to somebody else's video 0:39:05.349,0:39:07.469 which messes up your business model 0:39:07.469,0:39:11.229 which leads to a possible or desire to[br]prevent you from getting video from 0:39:11.229,0:39:12.799 anybody but damn 0:39:12.799,0:39:16.849 back isn't in the calendar dates and[br]everything else is a very quickly 0:39:16.849,0:39:20.499 as we pursue these technical problems we[br]also cover 0:39:20.499,0:39:21.749 uh... an honors 0:39:21.749,0:39:24.659 various policy issues that have to be[br]resolved 0:39:24.659,0:39:27.559 uh... and i've already talked about your[br]chocolate 0:39:27.559,0:39:30.289 so uh... or the other 0:39:30.289,0:39:32.589 question is diversity in uniformity 0:39:32.589,0:39:36.009 uh... one uniformity is really helpful[br]because it allows you to your 0:39:36.009,0:39:37.299 opportunity 0:39:37.299,0:39:40.869 diversity dot is important because you[br]want to be able to trying new things and 0:39:40.869,0:39:44.209 figuring out how to cope with both of us[br]at the same time 0:39:44.209,0:39:46.170 up to be true 0:39:46.170,0:39:49.809 this part of it is a program was started[br]by the department of commerce department 0:39:49.809,0:39:51.849 of energy about four years ago 0:39:51.849,0:39:57.009 and their initial focus was to create[br]margaret interoperability panel 0:39:57.009,0:39:58.579 to encourage 0:39:58.579,0:40:01.730 standards for the devices that are part[br]of a smart grid 0:40:01.730,0:40:05.789 so they can be managed to they could[br]respond for example to it by saying 0:40:05.789,0:40:07.649 that uh... 0:40:07.649,0:40:11.519 the uh... power grid was reaching people[br]and would you please let me go water 0:40:11.519,0:40:13.869 earlier condition for a while 0:40:13.869,0:40:18.199 this is important because the ability to[br]control world was not billed 0:40:18.199,0:40:22.349 capacity excess capacity that's only a[br]small percentage of time 0:40:22.349,0:40:24.899 and so that's a good or thrilled 0:40:24.899,0:40:28.410 capability disability sake please don't[br]use electricity 0:40:28.410,0:40:32.180 but you also have the opportunity to get[br]to report back on which devices were 0:40:32.180,0:40:35.029 used during the course in montana[br]element 0:40:35.029,0:40:38.339 now tell you something about my record[br]that was what it is and that feedback 0:40:38.339,0:40:39.419 loop 0:40:39.419,0:40:42.680 is what helps us decide whether we[br]change our lifestyle 0:40:42.680,0:40:46.290 possibly for economic reasons are really[br]just care about the environment we want 0:40:46.290,0:40:47.989 to change or 0:40:47.989,0:40:48.869 abuse 0:40:48.869,0:40:50.899 electricity for example 0:40:50.899,0:40:54.729 so again a whole series of issues[br]associated with smartly program that or 0:40:54.729,0:40:55.959 not 0:40:55.959,0:40:58.909 uh... once was the sensor networks[br]except one thing you should really 0:40:58.909,0:41:00.099 different 0:41:00.099,0:41:02.469 up until uh... recently 0:41:02.469,0:41:06.150 most of the car generated in the united[br]states essentially generated in 0:41:06.150,0:41:08.239 distributed over collins 0:41:08.239,0:41:12.049 without reaching a point where we are[br]capable putting generation capability to 0:41:12.049,0:41:13.649 be adjusted 0:41:13.649,0:41:18.059 and he gets even more dramatic when you[br]go from this photovoltaic candidate 0:41:18.059,0:41:20.419 manpower possibly view 0:41:20.419,0:41:21.459 thermal 0:41:21.459,0:41:25.149 uh... as a generators of electricity in[br]your home 0:41:25.149,0:41:27.960 now it's more again electric cars 0:41:27.960,0:41:29.389 make began 0:41:29.389,0:41:33.209 so now you have the possibility no[br]holding power out of the system recharge 0:41:33.209,0:41:36.959 cars were pushing power into the system[br]that i want to think about control 0:41:36.959,0:41:38.839 theory if you put it in school 0:41:38.839,0:41:42.630 it gets more complicated systems that[br]will push and pull at the city 0:41:42.630,0:41:45.619 at you know at the same time 0:41:45.619,0:41:47.479 problem that we are 0:41:47.479,0:41:48.819 independently 0:41:48.819,0:41:52.309 uh... every or every household united[br]states is either generating electricity 0:41:52.309,0:41:53.729 reporting electricity 0:41:53.729,0:41:56.159 hideouts assistant like that 0:41:56.159,0:41:59.209 and so if you're interested in some of[br]the thinking about that look at my 0:41:59.209,0:42:00.359 grades 0:42:00.359,0:42:04.459 uh... google search on that because the[br]ideas artists consider actually just 0:42:04.459,0:42:05.429 really 0:42:05.429,0:42:07.300 electrical power generation farther 0:42:07.300,0:42:09.479 so that we live so dependent on one 0:42:09.479,0:42:11.619 uh... singles samples solely 0:42:11.619,0:42:17.549 in a particular area simply right before[br]it was in all kinds of people here 0:42:17.549,0:42:20.930 this vote leads me to one other thing[br]about uh... 0:42:20.930,0:42:25.179 Internet him thing that uh... like uh...[br]mentioned earlier about 0:42:25.179,0:42:26.559 policy 0:42:26.559,0:42:28.690 for the big issues that we have today 0:42:28.690,0:42:29.859 is that 0:42:29.859,0:42:31.099 there are 0:42:31.099,0:42:32.089 countries 0:42:32.089,0:42:35.599 this see how important the Internet is[br]but they're nervous about it because 0:42:35.599,0:42:36.690 they have since 0:42:36.690,0:42:39.849 democratic ability to let people share[br]information 0:42:39.849,0:42:41.190 and for some data 0:42:41.190,0:42:44.019 authoritarian regimes that's a threat 0:42:44.019,0:42:47.190 we've seen the outcomes for example in[br]europe spring 0:42:47.190,0:42:50.060 I'd like to emphasize something for you[br]mean some people were pounding their 0:42:50.060,0:42:54.180 chests and looking uh... Internet was[br]that part of or face book and others 0:42:54.180,0:42:54.819 were 0:42:54.819,0:42:57.099 part of the air strain is wonderful 0:42:57.099,0:43:01.039 except the outcomes revolutions don't[br]always come out where you would like 0:43:01.039,0:43:04.399 and right now we're seeing some pretty[br]difficult problems in egypt for example 0:43:04.399,0:43:07.959 in libya for example in syria for[br]example 0:43:07.959,0:43:10.300 uh... he changes of the 0:43:10.300,0:43:11.690 places where the 0:43:11.690,0:43:16.689 the arabs friends started teenage is[br]probably one which is happy 0:43:16.689,0:43:21.369 i don't use the word placid exactly but[br]it was more stable 0:43:21.369,0:43:24.449 regime change for the others have been[br]very very difficult 0:43:24.449,0:43:28.859 so i want to be careful not to 0:43:28.859,0:43:33.059 the role of the Internet analysts as if[br]it is uniformly positive 0:43:33.059,0:43:37.719 you have to be really thoughtful about[br]how you recover from major rethinking 0:43:37.719,0:43:39.539 but what this is like to 0:43:39.539,0:43:40.920 is a real debate about 0:43:40.920,0:43:41.759 uh... what 0:43:41.759,0:43:45.379 role governments have in the control of[br]the Internet 0:43:45.379,0:43:47.900 for all of us uh... in the Internet[br]world 0:43:47.900,0:43:51.850 uh... historically we've seen this is a[br]very violent thing multiple stakeholders 0:43:51.850,0:43:52.949 are 0:43:52.949,0:43:54.339 interested him 0:43:54.339,0:43:56.319 making decisions about policy 0:43:56.319,0:43:59.339 they're the ones that are affected by[br]whether it's a technical community the 0:43:59.339,0:44:00.509 general public 0:44:00.509,0:44:01.829 civil society 0:44:01.829,0:44:04.069 the government's the private sector 0:44:04.069,0:44:06.789 are all having equal state 0:44:06.789,0:44:09.649 him what happens in the policy many 0:44:09.649,0:44:13.009 and yet many of the intergovernmental[br]institutions like the international 0:44:13.009,0:44:14.630 telecommunications union 0:44:14.630,0:44:17.779 see this is the province of governments[br]to make policy 0:44:17.779,0:44:22.829 and uh... this is a place where there's[br]plenty of opportunity for intervention 0:44:22.829,0:44:26.789 they world summit on the information[br]society which began in two thousand 0:44:26.789,0:44:28.109 three 0:44:28.109,0:44:31.439 began with the premise that there would[br]be an information society and we were 0:44:31.439,0:44:35.559 seen emerge of its own when did it mean[br]firmly 0:44:35.559,0:44:36.929 policy point of view 0:44:36.929,0:44:39.949 and the first thing that these[br]government officials where this is a 0:44:39.949,0:44:41.139 intergovernmental 0:44:41.139,0:44:42.029 discussion 0:44:42.029,0:44:45.539 first thing that they asked was what[br]information society 0:44:45.539,0:44:46.549 ends there 0:44:46.549,0:44:49.279 people said well the Internet is an[br]example 0:44:49.279,0:44:51.659 so they said what was in charge of the[br]Internet 0:44:51.659,0:44:55.319 not nothing could possibly be tuesday 0:44:55.319,0:44:59.169 if it was essentially mentioned we said[br]well nobody is a distributed system and 0:44:59.169,0:45:00.799 they didn't believe this 0:45:00.799,0:45:03.089 so then they discovered that i can 0:45:03.089,0:45:06.919 because i can't has responsibility for[br]idea dress allocations and meeting 0:45:06.919,0:45:08.009 management 0:45:08.009,0:45:11.229 and they decided and i can this be a[br]tragedy 0:45:11.229,0:45:15.019 and then they said it wasn't right if i[br]can they decided i cant government 0:45:15.019,0:45:18.299 contract with the department of commerce[br]twenty nine and must be in charge of 0:45:18.299,0:45:19.559 either 0:45:19.559,0:45:23.349 that us is in terms of the Internet[br]patents sit well with some of the 0:45:23.349,0:45:27.369 country set back pain us attorney unit[br]has been 0:45:27.369,0:45:29.329 uh... a persistent uh... 0:45:29.329,0:45:31.959 issue since two thousand three 0:45:31.959,0:45:36.579 Internet governance forum was created[br]out of the world somebody information 0:45:36.579,0:45:40.809 society as a place where we could talk[br]about issues arising in the inner it's a 0:45:40.809,0:45:43.419 very important multi stakeholder 0:45:43.419,0:45:44.820 system or 0:45:44.820,0:45:45.919 function 0:45:45.919,0:45:47.629 it doesn't make decisions 0:45:47.629,0:45:49.759 this turns out to be really important 0:45:49.759,0:45:53.530 because he'd make decisions if you're if[br]you drafts uh... 0:45:53.530,0:45:54.589 communiques 0:45:54.589,0:45:58.599 or make recommendations you have to[br]argue with each other you end up doing 0:45:58.599,0:46:01.060 uh... you know these little words[br]missing things 0:46:01.060,0:46:04.070 in the end what we want is people going[br]away understanding what are the issues 0:46:04.070,0:46:07.979 like facing Internet how should they be[br]dressed in battle 0:46:07.979,0:46:13.569 but not by idea atf_ is their as a way[br]of surfacing problems helping people 0:46:13.569,0:46:16.389 figure u 0:46:16.389,0:46:21.279 i'm ireland let me just get through[br]organ international talks non-stop about 0:46:21.279,0:46:24.059 some of you follow the world conference[br]on 0:46:24.059,0:46:27.579 information technology know that there[br]was a major earthquake 0:46:27.579,0:46:32.199 this was intended to revise the[br]international talk on regulations 0:46:32.199,0:46:35.289 which had been touched his nineteen[br]eighty eight and at that point poorest 0:46:35.289,0:46:35.869 people 0:46:35.869,0:46:38.949 government officials especially when[br]thinking about you know 0:46:38.949,0:46:42.670 so they didn't take into account what[br]unit was like and what he could do 0:46:42.670,0:46:44.910 how could subsumed mobile solely 0:46:44.910,0:46:47.850 earlier telecommunications applications 0:46:47.850,0:46:48.749 system 0:46:48.749,0:46:50.079 which it has done 0:46:50.079,0:46:54.949 so they try to revise these things and[br]the uh... countries that were most 0:46:54.949,0:46:57.389 interested in finding ways to control 0:46:57.389,0:47:01.549 Internet wanted to use the international[br]telecom regulation revision as a way of 0:47:01.549,0:47:02.469 gaining 0:47:02.469,0:47:03.939 authority over the net 0:47:03.939,0:47:09.319 so they try to put language into a high[br]tea arms that uh... spoke of spam for 0:47:09.319,0:47:09.950 example 0:47:09.950,0:47:11.719 spoke with security 0:47:11.719,0:47:12.689 smoker 0:47:12.689,0:47:17.289 viruses worms and source well those are[br]applications that country 0:47:17.289,0:47:20.769 and never in history international talk[br]i mean you know her 0:47:20.769,0:47:22.329 dot hunt and he was 0:47:22.329,0:47:24.289 it was standardizing telephone 0:47:24.289,0:47:27.849 uh... interaction and originally[br]delaware interactions 0:47:27.849,0:47:30.439 but it was never responsible for content 0:47:30.439,0:47:33.309 they didn't control what he did say on[br]the phone 0:47:33.309,0:47:35.829 they only trying to make sure you can[br]make a phone call 0:47:35.829,0:47:39.559 well i think the Internet to be the same[br]way that these guys concede that way 0:47:39.559,0:47:41.539 the result of the debate 0:47:41.539,0:47:45.099 was that uh... of the hundred and forty[br]seven countries 0:47:45.099,0:47:46.899 that attended 0:47:46.899,0:47:50.289 eighty-nine signed the resulting[br]treating fifty-five walk away including 0:47:50.289,0:47:53.119 the united states which is the right[br]thing to do 0:47:53.119,0:47:56.870 so if that is the biggest schism[br]international 0:47:56.870,0:48:00.869 negotiations regarding telecom that's[br]ever happened in history the iq 0:48:00.869,0:48:04.079 i think it's a very important uh... data[br]point 0:48:04.079,0:48:07.719 and i think that which actually kind of[br]take advantage of the fact that there is 0:48:07.719,0:48:08.879 disagreeing 0:48:08.879,0:48:11.180 in order to force people to face it 0:48:11.180,0:48:12.679 at the Internet is different 0:48:12.679,0:48:14.839 approval via the telephone system 0:48:14.839,0:48:17.009 we've been dealt with in the past 0:48:17.009,0:48:20.629 skip over to privacy and safety 0:48:20.629,0:48:25.729 you hear security security security is[br]an issue on the Internet 0:48:25.729,0:48:29.189 what I'd like to suggest to use that[br]word causes people to think too much 0:48:29.189,0:48:30.460 about uh... 0:48:30.460,0:48:32.579 national security and think about 0:48:32.579,0:48:35.109 nation state tax and so what would[br]happen 0:48:35.109,0:48:37.329 cases is not argue that they don't 0:48:37.329,0:48:39.099 but the general public 0:48:39.099,0:48:40.619 goes this way 0:48:40.619,0:48:43.979 at the point where we're talking actual[br]security 0:48:43.979,0:48:45.020 what they don't 0:48:45.020,0:48:49.269 it fully appreciate is that they are[br]also part of the problem 0:48:49.269,0:48:51.349 but its safety daycare 0:48:51.349,0:48:54.599 they would like to be feel like they're[br]safe on the Internet and they don't give 0:48:54.599,0:48:58.299 us a fight because orders policy of[br]reported 0:48:58.299,0:48:58.900 so i'm 0:48:58.900,0:49:00.279 thinking that we should be 0:49:00.279,0:49:03.579 working out uh... kind of cyber fire[br]depart 0:49:03.579,0:49:07.559 velvet model i have in my head into[br]somebody standing in front of his uh... 0:49:07.559,0:49:11.229 his house was burning down and he's got[br]a garden hose 0:49:11.229,0:49:14.909 and he's taking any somebody with the[br]rows and more water 0:49:14.909,0:49:18.359 in order for this out in the first thing[br]the comes to mind is not to call the 0:49:18.359,0:49:19.199 police department 0:49:19.199,0:49:21.219 you call firepower 0:49:21.219,0:49:25.110 so we don't have a sucker for apartment[br]in for a lot of individuals 0:49:25.110,0:49:28.140 households and small businesses and[br]everything else they don't have the 0:49:28.140,0:49:30.549 expertise to put out a certified 0:49:30.549,0:49:33.889 they don't know what to do about being[br]infected within a matter of fact that 0:49:33.889,0:49:37.369 they don't know what to do about cyber[br]tackled 0:49:37.369,0:49:42.049 and what they have cyber for in incall 0:49:42.049,0:49:44.729 as a business or vigil 0:49:44.729,0:49:47.619 but the rules may have to be different[br]from what we did when we actually caught 0:49:47.619,0:49:50.849 fire department your neighbor can call[br]fire department to be seizure house on 0:49:50.849,0:49:51.739 fire 0:49:51.739,0:49:54.539 the fire department feels free to come[br]in and broke windows in the rules in 0:49:54.539,0:49:57.640 order for the fire because the[br]neighborhood it is addressed 0:49:57.640,0:49:59.129 so far is out 0:49:59.129,0:50:02.139 but now they have in your competitor[br]calls a cyber fire department says 0:50:02.139,0:50:06.059 you're under attack cases are fire[br]department comes out break settling down 0:50:06.059,0:50:09.409 for three days trying to figure out what[br]the problem is in wilder out of business 0:50:09.409,0:50:11.349 and your competitors flailing 0:50:11.349,0:50:13.240 so the rules for 0:50:13.240,0:50:18.520 uh... indeed start for artwork the[br]different media before 0:50:18.520,0:50:20.229 for example 0:50:20.229,0:50:22.739 i think it's important in this analogy[br]is 0:50:22.739,0:50:25.819 the fire department aptly put out the[br]fire try to figure out why the fire 0:50:25.819,0:50:27.099 started 0:50:27.099,0:50:31.949 interviews are some and suddenly the[br]police department of the heroes on for 0:50:31.949,0:50:33.239 some gets the ball 0:50:33.239,0:50:35.310 you can imagine a similar kind of[br]scenario 0:50:35.310,0:50:38.510 something else happens the fire[br]department economic inspector building 0:50:38.510,0:50:40.989 to see whether or not meet parker 0:50:40.989,0:50:42.890 and we have fire codes for buildings 0:50:42.890,0:50:44.899 and and that you can imagine 0:50:44.899,0:50:46.939 looking for 0:50:46.939,0:50:50.960 advice and even some rules for designing[br]systems that are safer 0:50:50.960,0:50:52.019 than others 0:50:52.019,0:50:56.279 just like we have rules for doing[br]buildings that are safer examples forget 0:50:56.279,0:50:59.689 multiple exits entrances for for[br]safety's sake 0:50:59.689,0:51:03.839 so i think that we are at a period of[br]time worthless consider 0:51:03.839,0:51:05.059 uh... me 0:51:05.059,0:51:07.939 invention of the summer for a car 0:51:07.939,0:51:09.679 their country of the things here that 0:51:09.679,0:51:10.580 dimension 0:51:10.580,0:51:14.059 i have a few other things to talk about[br]it also no 0:51:14.059,0:51:15.149 vietnam 0:51:15.149,0:51:16.349 pretty close to having 0:51:16.349,0:51:20.179 borden vols or i can't believe it 0:51:20.179,0:51:21.589 here's the problem 0:51:21.589,0:51:23.970 digital signatures are really attractive[br]right 0:51:23.970,0:51:27.029 significance and usually sign things[br]anywhere 0:51:27.029,0:51:29.119 the question is legally 0:51:29.119,0:51:31.949 is is it is a digital signature binding 0:51:31.949,0:51:36.339 and it's not percent clear right now[br]especially international business 0:51:36.339,0:51:41.149 whether or not a contract has been[br]signed usually it has weighed in court 0:51:41.149,0:51:44.739 and so there's eighteen missing uh... 0:51:44.739,0:51:45.959 assessment 0:51:45.959,0:51:49.219 uh... either there is legislation does[br]require 0:51:49.219,0:51:53.680 or the international treaties required[br]in order to determine whether or not 0:51:53.680,0:51:56.349 digital signature on a contract is[br]binding 0:51:56.349,0:52:00.309 we don't have uh... agreements yet[br]cleaning up but i think you would you 0:52:00.309,0:52:01.000 wouldn't have 0:52:01.000,0:52:02.469 words but 0:52:02.469,0:52:05.140 come to some agreement about that 0:52:05.140,0:52:08.259 i'm sure all of you are aware of the[br]current state of debate on intellectual 0:52:08.259,0:52:09.629 property 0:52:09.629,0:52:11.389 on the path inside 0:52:11.389,0:52:14.119 software patents to turn out to be a[br]nightmare 0:52:14.119,0:52:17.400 and uh... i think all those who[br]recognize what that is 0:52:17.400,0:52:21.500 the best example i can give you a wild[br]and this is important for creativity and 0:52:21.500,0:52:22.519 innovation 0:52:22.519,0:52:24.069 is html 0:52:24.069,0:52:26.380 when the first browsers for me 0:52:26.380,0:52:28.329 even when the timbers needed 0:52:28.329,0:52:32.079 uh... they had to feature the you can[br]actually asking to show you the html 0:52:32.079,0:52:32.989 source 0:52:32.989,0:52:35.189 and you could figure out how do they do[br]that 0:52:35.189,0:52:38.689 and then they copied each other and it[br]was great because you know webmasters 0:52:38.689,0:52:39.920 learn from each other 0:52:39.920,0:52:43.510 they develop new ideas everybody got to[br]try new things out and give them the 0:52:43.510,0:52:45.039 evolution 0:52:45.039,0:52:47.019 the webpage was pretty dramatic 0:52:47.019,0:52:50.739 over a very short period of time because[br]people share each other's ideas and use 0:52:50.739,0:52:51.419 it 0:52:51.419,0:52:52.769 of html 0:52:52.769,0:52:56.880 uh... in that's just one example of the[br]reason why open this has been so 0:52:56.880,0:53:00.369 valuable that's why google makes[br]open-source available creme brulee 0:53:00.369,0:53:05.799 increment croats for the same reasons[br]but right now there's a lot of attention 0:53:05.799,0:53:07.309 comes to copyright 0:53:07.309,0:53:08.799 it's a whole other story 0:53:08.799,0:53:11.959 uh... some of you will remember the[br]uh... 0:53:11.959,0:53:12.769 uh... in the 0:53:12.769,0:53:14.409 our constitution 0:53:14.409,0:53:17.200 the notion of copyright was installed in[br]there 0:53:17.200,0:53:18.750 as for two reasons 0:53:18.750,0:53:22.069 to benefit the party who had created a[br]work 0:53:22.069,0:53:24.449 for a limited period of time 0:53:24.449,0:53:26.629 originally was fourteen years 0:53:26.629,0:53:29.989 and if you were the author of something[br]that you could control who can make 0:53:29.989,0:53:32.099 copies of it for that period of time 0:53:32.099,0:53:35.139 if you were still alive after fourteen[br]years ago actually had an option to 0:53:35.139,0:53:38.000 extend the copyright again for another[br]fourteen years 0:53:38.000,0:53:40.509 i think you had to make the payment to[br]do that 0:53:40.509,0:53:43.130 well what has happened over the whole[br]and then 0:53:43.130,0:53:45.309 after that period had expired 0:53:45.309,0:53:48.039 the work became part of the public[br]domain 0:53:48.039,0:53:50.639 intent here to benefit the population 0:53:50.639,0:53:52.190 in the words are in there 0:53:52.190,0:53:56.009 exactly that way what has happened over[br]the course of a couple of years 0:53:56.009,0:53:59.459 is that the intellectual property[br]community has extended 0:53:59.459,0:54:01.349 the lifetime 0:54:01.349,0:54:03.470 for but the copyright holder s 0:54:03.470,0:54:06.549 seventy five years after the death of[br]the office 0:54:06.549,0:54:10.890 this feels a little excessive to me[br]because it seems to have left out 0:54:10.890,0:54:14.340 the idea that things in the public[br]domain would benefit the general public 0:54:14.340,0:54:17.079 i think we've been waiting for 0:54:17.079,0:54:20.029 we're seeing similar problems with[br]passed because we have people fighting 0:54:20.029,0:54:21.229 overpass 0:54:21.229,0:54:24.429 that expanding billions of dollars 0:54:24.429,0:54:27.509 things it probably should have been[br]patented in the first place i think this 0:54:27.509,0:54:30.619 is a largely approval of software 0:54:30.619,0:54:35.010 so uh... this is a big problem in some[br]of us into technical world were about 0:54:35.010,0:54:37.049 do indeed with the legal people 0:54:37.049,0:54:40.539 in order to work through the[br]implications of changing 0:54:40.539,0:54:42.349 love the way these things work 0:54:42.349,0:54:45.669 and final thing i wanted to mention on[br]the slide has to do with the problem 0:54:45.669,0:54:46.579 that 0:54:46.579,0:54:50.009 uh... we are increasingly creating[br]digital content 0:54:50.009,0:54:55.159 every day when we use word processing[br]programs that were used for entry to usa 0:54:55.159,0:54:57.630 uh... presentation software kind or[br]another 0:54:57.630,0:55:00.409 we create fairly complex digital files 0:55:00.409,0:55:03.859 say this is the big business in those[br]files were only meaningful with the 0:55:03.859,0:55:06.469 software that created them is available 0:55:06.469,0:55:10.009 and one of the problems that arise this[br]is an overtime 0:55:10.009,0:55:12.619 that's offering up the executed 0:55:12.619,0:55:14.959 on the machines that you have available 0:55:14.959,0:55:18.339 and so if you carefully stored the bits[br]and you've moved them from the five 0:55:18.339,0:55:23.259 quarter-inch floppy do the three and a[br]half incentive you know the uh... dvds 0:55:23.259,0:55:24.319 or cds 0:55:24.319,0:55:29.180 to any and seller if you move the dates[br]from one begin to another if there is no 0:55:29.180,0:55:32.979 guarantee that the software that created[br]them will still be money machine that 0:55:32.979,0:55:34.339 you're currently 0:55:34.339,0:55:37.449 using or the operating system that we[br]currently using 0:55:37.449,0:55:38.679 uh... the uh... 0:55:38.679,0:55:40.759 lol might uh... 0:55:40.759,0:55:42.679 experiment i remember whose 0:55:42.679,0:55:45.379 what happens in this year's three[br]thousand 0:55:45.379,0:55:47.369 and you've got a google search 0:55:47.369,0:55:50.889 and in turn up in nineteen ninety seven[br]qar point five 0:55:50.889,0:55:53.829 the question suppose you're running[br]windows three thousand images for the 0:55:53.829,0:55:55.069 sake of argument 0:55:55.069,0:55:58.359 and the question is will the windows[br]three thousand package interpreting 0:55:58.359,0:56:02.169 nineteen ninety-seven powerpoint file[br]correctly answered probably no 0:56:02.169,0:56:05.839 and this is not a gratuitous vega[br]microsoft even if you're using open 0:56:05.839,0:56:06.799 source 0:56:06.799,0:56:09.289 mechanisms that the other[br]hundred-percent through the open source 0:56:09.289,0:56:12.729 programs would continue to be compiled[br]worry machine 0:56:12.729,0:56:14.430 up until the year three thousand 0:56:14.430,0:56:17.969 so there's a real challenge their which[br]is maintaining the ability to interpret 0:56:17.969,0:56:19.219 the debts 0:56:19.219,0:56:21.529 in scientific data it's even worse 0:56:21.529,0:56:22.589 because he he 0:56:22.589,0:56:27.019 uh... track not only in the distant[br]cells from in san diego calibration 0:56:27.019,0:56:28.269 instruments 0:56:28.269,0:56:31.429 uh... in the conditions under which the[br]data was collected 0:56:31.429,0:56:35.019 we don't have a bridging right now 0:56:35.019,0:56:39.509 either a few more that we can retain[br]information or even that we can get 0:56:39.509,0:56:41.110 access to software 0:56:41.110,0:56:42.999 when the company goes out of business 0:56:42.999,0:56:44.520 or when they with lisa 0:56:44.520,0:56:48.750 a new version is not compatible with the[br]previous one how do we get access to the 0:56:48.750,0:56:50.689 previous of software 0:56:50.689,0:56:54.599 there are there is no current regime[br]which recognizes the importance of 0:56:54.599,0:56:55.549 retaining 0:56:55.549,0:56:57.740 uh... access to the scheduled days 0:56:57.740,0:57:00.049 some of you probably saw the movie[br]lincoln 0:57:00.049,0:57:01.599 and you've ever reading a book 0:57:01.599,0:57:02.689 called 0:57:02.689,0:57:05.659 a team of rivals by doris kearns good 0:57:05.659,0:57:09.359 one of the interesting things about[br]herblock usage fee reconstructed the 0:57:09.359,0:57:10.930 dialogue with the time 0:57:10.930,0:57:14.140 by going to a hundred different[br]libraries and finding the lenders 0:57:14.140,0:57:16.670 principles in that uh... story 0:57:16.670,0:57:18.099 had said to each other 0:57:18.099,0:57:22.299 she was able to reconstruct dialogue[br]based on their imagine the june twenty 0:57:22.299,0:57:26.299 second century and trying to reproduce[br]what life was like in are twenty first 0:57:26.299,0:57:27.249 century 0:57:27.249,0:57:30.539 everything we've done is scheduled it's[br]all done it's unacceptable they will 0:57:30.539,0:57:32.649 never be at the moment we work 0:57:32.649,0:57:36.529 we we will not be good ancestors we will[br]be invisible ancestors 0:57:36.529,0:57:40.369 so we can not this would have to figure[br]out how to do background 0:57:40.369,0:57:41.049 ocampo 0:57:41.049,0:57:42.839 team well 0:57:42.839,0:57:45.409 you know what 0:57:45.409,0:57:48.179 through getting lazy 0:57:48.179,0:57:49.180 i really feel 0:57:49.180,0:57:52.159 compelled to tell you some of this is it[br]ok 0:57:52.159,0:57:54.009 uh... so 0:57:54.009,0:57:56.989 this is the thing that's interesting[br]about the Internet is that despite the 0:57:56.989,0:57:59.010 fact that bomb in a local celebrate 0:57:59.010,0:58:02.809 the fortieth anniversary of the design 0:58:02.809,0:58:06.019 paper was published in may of seventy[br]four of the original papers written in 0:58:06.019,0:58:08.259 september of seventy three 0:58:08.259,0:58:10.109 and we turn the system on 0:58:10.109,0:58:12.389 on january one nineteen eighty three 0:58:12.389,0:58:16.069 sows an operational for thirty years in[br]spite of this age 0:58:16.069,0:58:19.139 uh... it has a long pretty dramatically[br]and there are lots of things that are 0:58:19.139,0:58:23.269 still going on there could be done with[br]the open flow idea stanford university 0:58:23.269,0:58:27.219 and it begins with is a particularly[br]interesting example 0:58:27.219,0:58:29.149 you know when we don't balance 0:58:29.149,0:58:31.279 with cisco another still drives 0:58:31.279,0:58:33.069 big is the address base 0:58:33.069,0:58:35.789 on the packets to figure out where they[br]should welcome so you look at the 0:58:35.789,0:58:39.309 destination addressing look it up in a[br]cable news where doctor replied the 0:58:39.309,0:58:40.519 cable companies 0:58:40.519,0:58:43.049 fourteen thousand you do that 0:58:43.049,0:58:47.469 mitnick in his guys said wildly limiting[br]ourselves to the end respects 0:58:47.469,0:58:50.979 it why can't use other events in the[br]packet to tell us where out things what 0:58:50.979,0:58:54.709 we did look at the other states at all[br]just look at the content decided how to 0:58:54.709,0:58:55.900 wrap based on that 0:58:55.900,0:58:59.040 as a slightly multitask like ring to it[br]at that because you can imagine 0:58:59.040,0:59:00.240 announcing 0:59:00.240,0:59:02.399 you were interested in this kind of[br]content 0:59:02.399,0:59:05.629 and everybody knows that i'm interested[br]in that kind of content would get copies 0:59:05.629,0:59:08.579 of the package because the drowning[br]people would say anybody that said they 0:59:08.579,0:59:09.409 wanted 0:59:09.409,0:59:12.059 that content we were back to that[br]smoking yes 0:59:12.059,0:59:15.909 so what what they have done basically is[br]open up the notion of routing too much 0:59:15.909,0:59:18.429 broader range possibilities 0:59:18.429,0:59:20.329 this is really powerful stuff 0:59:20.329,0:59:23.739 and i don't have time to go to all the[br]details of the global 0:59:23.739,0:59:25.650 decided to build an hour 0:59:25.650,0:59:29.509 wide area network backbone that connects[br]all of our data centers together using 0:59:29.509,0:59:30.639 open flow 0:59:30.639,0:59:33.759 so over a period of about eighteen[br]months aboard where we work with the 0:59:33.759,0:59:34.890 overflow team 0:59:34.890,0:59:36.349 we actually implemented 0:59:36.349,0:59:40.119 and open for hours and we build[br]ourselves and we put into operation in 0:59:40.119,0:59:42.709 the backbone latino business together 0:59:42.709,0:59:43.819 it's given us 0:59:43.819,0:59:47.499 substantially better performance in[br]terms of uh... your station of the 0:59:47.499,0:59:48.449 optical 0:59:48.449,0:59:50.709 uh... network that links are data[br]centers 0:59:50.709,0:59:55.140 so have very ambitious thing to do[br]identity do with it some thought that i 0:59:55.140,0:59:59.749 can taken credit don't want you earth[br]also as our senior vp for information 0:59:59.749,1:00:01.249 for infrastructure 1:00:01.249,1:00:03.519 and his team just landed 1:00:03.519,1:00:05.079 and it's really impressive 1:00:05.079,1:00:10.099 uh... so this is an example of breaking[br]uh... out over donor card it will 1:00:10.099,1:00:12.909 emulate everything literary robert do 1:00:12.909,1:00:15.669 because use text of the actors 1:00:15.669,1:00:18.840 but the fact is is like any technology[br]worded 1:00:18.840,1:00:20.959 does the previous thing 1:00:20.959,1:00:23.829 and then because you using new[br]technology to do the previous thing you 1:00:23.829,1:00:26.739 can send you step in the body of your[br]life you can do it 1:00:26.739,1:00:28.869 uh... that's very 1:00:28.869,1:00:31.659 uh... another we talked about[br]configuration management and the 1:00:31.659,1:00:33.839 Internet things 1:00:33.839,1:00:37.019 problem certificates and certification 1:00:37.019,1:00:39.859 a lot of people thought that issuing[br]certificates should be greatly reduced 1:00:39.859,1:00:41.489 authentication 1:00:41.489,1:00:44.779 but that assumes you can trust you to[br]get it for recent issues a certificate 1:00:44.779,1:00:46.099 in the first place 1:00:46.099,1:00:48.159 problems you can do you know if you 1:00:48.159,1:00:52.229 isn't the issue where the certificate[br]can have any string they want to 1:00:52.229,1:00:54.259 associated with the public key 1:00:54.259,1:00:55.659 there was no concern 1:00:55.659,1:00:59.249 and so if you in fact were able to call[br]wears 1:00:59.249,1:01:02.709 uh... a certificate authority by the[br]certificate authority over break into a 1:01:02.709,1:01:05.829 certificate is already in generate fall[br]certificate 1:01:05.829,1:01:11.049 with more microsoft word himself for[br]providers namely in that certificate and 1:01:11.049,1:01:12.200 then somehow 1:01:12.200,1:01:13.839 issue software 1:01:13.839,1:01:17.469 associated that certificate you can[br]cause people to mistakenly download and 1:01:17.469,1:01:19.299 install 1:01:19.299,1:01:20.759 well the problem here is 1:01:20.759,1:01:23.069 trust every certificate corey 1:01:23.069,1:01:25.919 now you can try to uh... thought to that 1:01:25.919,1:01:29.719 if you look at your browser and you see[br]how many certificate authorities are 1:01:29.719,1:01:32.349 uh... are trusted outfits 1:01:32.349,1:01:34.909 it's only and self control 1:01:34.909,1:01:38.549 sold by the other alternative india[br]atf_ right now is to look at the 1:01:38.549,1:01:41.179 possibility of installing certificates 1:01:41.179,1:01:42.750 intervening system 1:01:42.750,1:01:44.539 using insect 1:01:44.539,1:01:45.669 as a tool 1:01:45.669,1:01:49.069 for making sure that everything going[br]down to the place where the certificate 1:01:49.069,1:01:53.609 is being installed has been digitally[br]signed so there's a change dress on top 1:01:53.609,1:01:54.270 of that 1:01:54.270,1:01:59.519 is usually is related to refer to[br]strings that are related to me 1:01:59.519,1:02:03.159 in which that coddling inserted interest[br]on 1:02:03.159,1:02:04.389 so if you're 1:02:04.389,1:02:05.869 google dot com 1:02:05.869,1:02:09.899 the only certificates that i could have[br]a good in cool dot com the second level 1:02:09.899,1:02:10.879 domain 1:02:10.879,1:02:13.830 with her third level domains inside[br]google dot com 1:02:13.830,1:02:20.340 any other attempts to for certificate[br]out of that part of the uh... demeaning 1:02:20.340,1:02:21.079 zone 1:02:21.079,1:02:24.010 we have to be rejected out of him[br]because he 1:02:24.010,1:02:25.990 strain was accredited 1:02:25.990,1:02:27.709 wasn't from its own 1:02:27.709,1:02:30.859 so that's an example of a way of[br]responding to this story 1:02:30.859,1:02:31.910 let me just mention 1:02:31.910,1:02:35.029 one of the things i want to give you a[br]quick summary of the year planetary 1:02:35.029,1:02:36.019 system 1:02:36.019,1:02:37.889 uh... p 1:02:37.889,1:02:41.569 uh... those of you who study the history[br]of competing here remember project 1:02:41.569,1:02:44.279 activity back in the nineteen sixties 1:02:44.279,1:02:47.859 one of the interesting things they did[br]was to modify and she knows ge six 1:02:47.859,1:02:50.349 thirty five thirty to six forty five 1:02:50.349,1:02:54.349 that had it brings a protection and[br]their management 1:02:54.349,1:02:57.849 it reads a protection were triggered[br]whenever you executed as sensitive 1:02:57.849,1:02:59.329 instruction 1:02:59.329,1:03:02.649 that instruction tracked down to the[br]colonel software and said who r u what 1:03:02.649,1:03:05.529 are you doing here when instruction he[br]tried to execute and what makes you 1:03:05.529,1:03:08.049 think you have the authority to do that 1:03:08.049,1:03:11.169 and all the colonel would decide whether[br]or not you were actually allowed to 1:03:11.169,1:03:15.389 execute the instruction in place in the[br]appropriate reign of control so as you 1:03:15.389,1:03:19.749 got down to ring zero who have more more[br]control over machine this is an example 1:03:19.749,1:03:23.789 of hardware and software working[br]together to reinforce security 1:03:23.789,1:03:26.869 we actually have that capability in the[br]x_-eighty six trips but nobody's 1:03:26.869,1:03:28.049 programming 1:03:28.049,1:03:30.709 and they should be good to know so[br]that's one example of hardware 1:03:30.709,1:03:32.300 reinforcing security 1:03:32.300,1:03:33.549 with software 1:03:33.549,1:03:37.339 um... the same thing is just happened[br]recently with uh... violence with 1:03:37.339,1:03:39.019 digitally signed by house 1:03:39.019,1:03:43.349 we can execute people program comes in[br]the operating system and less 1:03:43.349,1:03:45.700 the digital signature on the five scone 1:03:45.700,1:03:47.139 checks out with her 1:03:47.139,1:03:49.719 it's another example of getting more[br]reinforcements 1:03:49.719,1:03:53.579 okay hundred skip down to the[br]interplanetary Internet so we've heard 1:03:53.579,1:03:56.359 about this it was just an update on the[br]status 1:03:56.359,1:04:00.989 when we started we were interested in[br]providing better networking for 1:04:00.989,1:04:02.539 uh... exploring mars 1:04:02.539,1:04:06.179 this was in nineteen ninety just after[br]the pathfinder project 1:04:06.179,1:04:09.750 waited smallholder on mars very[br]successfully 1:04:09.750,1:04:13.280 the information that was coming back[br]with strip directly from apple or over a 1:04:13.280,1:04:15.869 wave after through the deep space[br]network 1:04:15.869,1:04:19.140 and so my colleagues and i had the jet[br]propulsion laboratory ki 1:04:19.140,1:04:20.589 what should we be doing 1:04:20.589,1:04:23.510 and we will need twenty five years from[br]now in order to provide better 1:04:23.510,1:04:25.960 networking for uh... p 1:04:25.960,1:04:26.890 uh... space 1:04:26.890,1:04:28.189 faring nations 1:04:28.189,1:04:32.609 and out we very quickly concluded we[br]should use rich networking like Internet 1:04:32.609,1:04:36.429 no we said well maybe we can use the[br]cpi_ p hearts on earth so maybe work 1:04:36.429,1:04:37.599 on mars too 1:04:37.599,1:04:41.010 and of course i will work on mars but it[br]doesn't work between the planets 1:04:41.010,1:04:44.300 because of the variable delay which[br]could be up to twenty minutes one way 1:04:44.300,1:04:47.179 forty minutes roundtrip and also[br]destruction 1:04:47.179,1:04:51.039 in the plan is a rotating we have[br]figured out how to stop that 1:04:51.039,1:04:54.619 sup so if you're talking to something on[br]the surface of the planet rotates or 1:04:54.619,1:04:55.989 maybe there's an order 1:04:55.989,1:04:58.980 you can talk a little it comes back[br]around again 1:04:58.980,1:05:03.010 so we end up with this variable the land[br]destruction environment pcp_ is broke 1:05:03.010,1:05:04.070 in that regard 1:05:04.070,1:05:08.409 so we developed a new initially[br]protocols we call the bottle protocol 1:05:08.409,1:05:11.849 in recent years we didn't come up with[br]very beautifully done kentucky fried 1:05:11.849,1:05:17.189 chicken noodle called hotbed birds[br]period 1:05:17.189,1:05:22.349 just not really giving some final phone[br]call isn't your planetary world unit 1:05:22.349,1:05:24.859 protocol is winter 1:05:24.859,1:05:27.809 it'll run on basically anything that[br]moves a packet of dates from one place 1:05:27.809,1:05:32.429 to another runs on top of pcp_ dealers[br]on top of the vp hearings and cut by p 1:05:32.429,1:05:34.609 was on top of point-to-point links 1:05:34.609,1:05:39.489 do we get after looking for a regions of[br]the design of the system 1:05:39.489,1:05:44.569 we install it uh... for experimental[br]purposes uh... but let me go back 1:05:44.569,1:05:47.739 there there was you know in two thousand[br]four 1:05:47.739,1:05:50.130 over several and in order to him 1:05:50.130,1:05:52.410 very successfully spirit and opportunity 1:05:52.410,1:05:56.429 one of them I'd forget which fear is has[br]died 1:05:56.429,1:06:00.409 i can read one of his dad the other one[br]is uh... still producing data 1:06:00.409,1:06:04.419 but when they were uh... first landed[br]they were supposed to transmit data 1:06:04.419,1:06:07.479 directly back to earth away pathfinder[br]did 1:06:07.479,1:06:09.699 but those radios overheat 1:06:09.699,1:06:13.019 and the result is that they needed to[br]reduce the duty cycle to keep it from 1:06:13.019,1:06:16.739 armenia itself or any other equipment[br]was originally rated at twenty eight 1:06:16.739,1:06:18.359 august second 1:06:18.359,1:06:21.509 and that was nearly scientists were not[br]happy about that 1:06:21.509,1:06:24.759 when we told we have to reduce the duty[br]cycle they worry more than happy about 1:06:24.759,1:06:25.679 that 1:06:25.679,1:06:29.189 and so one of the engineer said well[br]there's an expand radio on the rover 1:06:29.189,1:06:33.039 there's an expand radio on orders which[br]have been put in place in orders 1:06:33.039,1:06:35.739 uh... certainly the planet to decide[br]where the rover should go but they 1:06:35.739,1:06:38.249 finish that tested evidence in orbit 1:06:38.249,1:06:41.819 and they had available communications[br]can computing in memory 1:06:41.819,1:06:46.549 so the the orders and the rover[br]reprogrammed 1:06:46.549,1:06:50.239 to take data that you collected squared[br]up to the order when i got into 1:06:50.239,1:06:54.379 with replacement ball into the data for[br]the transmitted data back 1:06:54.379,1:06:56.619 uh... to the deep space network 1:06:56.619,1:07:00.949 the data rate going on the expand radial[br]isn't when he told it's the second 1:07:00.949,1:07:03.390 pakistan grading and two fifty six 1:07:03.390,1:07:07.489 and uh... the orders since they have a[br]large solar arrays and didn't have any 1:07:07.489,1:07:08.180 problem 1:07:08.180,1:07:10.459 even within rowers atmosphere 1:07:10.459,1:07:14.029 could transmit data back it more than[br]two hundred twenty kept a second 1:07:14.029,1:07:17.809 so all the data that was coming back[br]from our school in store for 1:07:17.809,1:07:19.569 packet switching 1:07:19.569,1:07:23.549 today demonstration of how well that[br]could work 1:07:23.549,1:07:26.519 dirt that landed in the year two[br]thousand eight was in the north pole 1:07:26.519,1:07:30.029 didn't have a configuration of three[br]factors so they went through the relay 1:07:30.029,1:07:31.039 again 1:07:31.039,1:07:35.599 belly-up the protocols to be a proxy[br]spacecraft which is in order in the sun 1:07:35.599,1:07:37.779 that had wonderful with two counts 1:07:37.779,1:07:41.339 it was called deep impact originally in[br]the new new mission bringing to the 1:07:41.339,1:07:42.239 party 1:07:42.239,1:07:44.519 so if as the protocols on board 1:07:44.519,1:07:48.339 rovers at the protocols board your[br]orders at the protocols word 1:07:48.339,1:07:51.539 international space station has[br]protocols work 1:07:51.539,1:07:56.349 we're operating basically rudimentary[br]interplanetary network now 1:07:56.349,1:07:59.370 and so what's happening is that at nasa 1:07:59.370,1:08:01.890 efforts to standardize these protocols 1:08:01.890,1:08:05.479 internationally through the consul[br]canadian space data systems 1:08:05.479,1:08:09.689 were hoping that everybody will adopt[br]the protocols use them in their missions 1:08:09.689,1:08:12.759 or even if they don't use among the[br]nations of the salmon on board so when 1:08:12.759,1:08:15.259 those missions are done 1:08:15.259,1:08:18.809 purpose those devices is known as an[br]interplanetary back and so we might 1:08:18.809,1:08:21.009 actually see something 1:08:21.009,1:08:22.339 like that 1:08:22.339,1:08:24.799 uh... over you know many decades 1:08:24.799,1:08:28.829 now some people said well you know why[br]are you doing supports one answers 1:08:28.829,1:08:32.430 provide which options for more complex[br]missions with multiple 1:08:32.430,1:08:36.569 uh... spacecraft in orbit intend on[br]foreign you know in orbit 1:08:36.569,1:08:39.749 around the sun for example were flying[br]out of the solar system 1:08:39.749,1:08:44.119 or possibly on the surface in fact we[br]get into example of that 1:08:44.119,1:08:47.670 a couple of months ago out of the[br]european space agency in cooperation 1:08:47.670,1:08:49.819 with the uh... us 1:08:49.819,1:08:54.020 did may test from the uh...[br]international space station 1:08:54.020,1:08:57.880 using the interplanetary protocols to[br]control the rover on the ground in 1:08:57.880,1:08:58.889 germany 1:08:58.889,1:09:02.269 so while we were demonstrating is one of[br]the white if you were in orbit around 1:09:02.269,1:09:03.380 mars 1:09:03.380,1:09:05.719 and you need to control over remotely 1:09:05.719,1:09:09.170 it was close enough to was real-time[br]interaction so the protocols 1:09:09.170,1:09:12.589 although they can deal with uh...[br]variable delay are also perfectly ok 1:09:12.589,1:09:14.679 disliking vp 1:09:14.679,1:09:15.680 fine 1:09:15.680,1:09:19.240 so you have a wonder will go right so[br]that might help build more complex 1:09:19.240,1:09:19.960 missions 1:09:19.960,1:09:22.239 but i have one of the reason for doing[br]this 1:09:22.239,1:09:25.819 barbour released a contract last year[br]for half a million dollars 1:09:25.819,1:09:29.400 to a consortium to design a spacecraft[br]they can get to the nearest star in a 1:09:29.400,1:09:30.589 hundred years 1:09:30.589,1:09:33.639 that's for reflectors away alpha[br]centauri 1:09:33.639,1:09:38.509 and so uh... i'm lucky to be part of[br]that consortium in their three problems 1:09:38.509,1:09:40.670 problem number one is propulsion 1:09:40.670,1:09:44.569 uh... it turns out that uh... the[br]current propulsion systems would take 1:09:44.569,1:09:45.250 about 1:09:45.250,1:09:49.020 sixty five thousand years to get from[br]earth to alpha centauri 1:09:49.020,1:09:51.429 which is a little won't even for a[br]darker project 1:09:51.429,1:09:56.199 so the question is how do i get up to[br]about twenty percent the speed of light 1:09:56.199,1:10:00.969 an ally the way we need to william[br]slowdown before we get together and 1:10:00.969,1:10:04.489 otherwise we'll get one image in indian[br]than expected 1:10:04.489,1:10:08.969 so the idea of what you saw them in[br]going forward so we have to reaches 1:10:08.969,1:10:13.000 speed of about twenty percent speed of[br]light midpoint fifty years and then be 1:10:13.000,1:10:14.689 able to console them 1:10:14.689,1:10:17.030 to get to work at the evidence that's[br]one problem 1:10:17.030,1:10:18.919 navigation is another problem 1:10:18.919,1:10:23.570 uh... imagine you know that when we do[br]interplanetary projects now 1:10:23.570,1:10:26.590 usually the spacecraft get to a certain[br]point in the mission and you have to do 1:10:26.590,1:10:29.989 in the course sections and we do that is[br]interactively 1:10:29.989,1:10:33.979 not not not literally real-time we send[br]the correction information we get back 1:10:33.979,1:10:36.460 to information about the change in me 1:10:36.460,1:10:37.679 uh... flight path 1:10:37.679,1:10:41.790 now imagined for doing this for the[br]space craft that's not what your way 1:10:41.790,1:10:44.760 so it takes a year for the information[br]you get there another year for you to 1:10:44.760,1:10:46.729 find out whether or not worker 1:10:46.729,1:10:49.840 instant feel like it was real[br]interactive on 1:10:49.840,1:10:54.160 so i got worried about that until[br]somebody pointed out that ecom proper 1:10:54.160,1:10:57.270 motion stars that are within about ten[br]litres of 1:10:57.270,1:10:59.809 our solar system was actually pretty[br]woman 1:10:59.809,1:11:04.670 which means that we can do in homestead[br]additional slightly 1:11:04.670,1:11:07.090 as we can use stars there much farther[br]away 1:11:07.090,1:11:10.159 as a way of calibrating where we are and[br]then use that to make a mid-course 1:11:10.159,1:11:11.190 corrections 1:11:11.190,1:11:13.770 so that i was easy that this[br]communication 1:11:13.770,1:11:17.130 how big the generators signal it would[br]be detectable order 1:11:17.130,1:11:19.159 from for your support 1:11:19.159,1:11:23.169 uh... you know and also you have to[br]deliver the equipment to for lives away 1:11:23.169,1:11:26.479 so you have some limitations on message[br]you can send 1:11:26.479,1:11:30.590 so i've been thinking well maybe eh...[br]femtosecond lasers mentioned you have a 1:11:30.590,1:11:31.680 hundred what 1:11:31.680,1:11:35.770 power supply and compress a hundred one[br]signals ten minus fifteen seconds and 1:11:35.770,1:11:37.030 should give you pretty good 1:11:37.030,1:11:38.130 since then 1:11:38.130,1:11:41.890 without even if it's a laser beam isn't[br]being spread 1:11:41.890,1:11:46.370 over four lightyear distance and i get[br]this very attenuated bohat false 1:11:46.370,1:11:50.020 attenuated downsizings sewer systems and[br]now you know i need the interplanetary 1:11:50.020,1:11:51.210 backbone 1:11:51.210,1:11:54.400 is so i can do the synthetic aperture[br]receiver to detect the signal coming 1:11:54.400,1:11:56.239 from an office in time 1:11:56.239,1:12:01.820 one of the physicist said wait a minute[br]there's another when it is that 1:12:01.820,1:12:07.050 you know that he that he will be online[br]stone figure some serious right 1:12:07.050,1:12:11.040 so he said if you go fired fifty[br]astronomical units away from the senate 1:12:11.040,1:12:15.150 you begin to get the point where the[br]gravity will form a focal point 1:12:15.150,1:12:16.199 fulfilling 1:12:16.199,1:12:20.479 so we can just get equipment five and[br]fifty a year out from her 1:12:20.479,1:12:25.039 then we can use the focal uh...[br]gravitational lands of the sun in order 1:12:25.039,1:12:27.810 to focus the signal is coming office in[br]time 1:12:27.810,1:12:31.670 so that certain current idea building[br]planetary 1:12:31.670,1:12:33.079 answered style 1:12:33.079,1:12:36.119 system intergalactic it's somebody[br]else's trial 1:12:36.119,1:12:39.469 file i i'm sorry when i sent him a[br]little bit 1:12:39.469,1:12:41.659 speaking talent dizzy and sick about[br]this 1:12:41.659,1:12:45.539 i happen to spend some time in two and a[br]biol forgive you if you all the center 1:12:45.539,1:12:46.340 of the way 1:12:46.340,1:12:53.340 but i think in any case for coming to[br]google c 1:13:03.099,1:13:07.479 mister thank you so much prestige for[br]another great speech you gave last year 1:13:07.479,1:13:10.040 uh... presented by 1:13:10.040,1:13:13.580 you'll stop 1:13:13.580,1:13:20.559 understand you're and said sorry start[br]work here 1:13:20.559,1:13:25.419 those are are real meals problems a real[br]problem is that we can find in our 1:13:25.419,1:13:26.409 discussion 1:13:26.409,1:13:31.659 to those words we actually banda[br]thinking in uh... in ways that general 1:13:31.659,1:13:36.610 solely anyone masses espy's march 1:13:36.610,1:13:40.139 urich 1:13:40.139,1:13:47.139 uh... if metallic style security xy i[br]have actually has interactions with the 1:13:47.530,1:13:51.400 department of homeland security which is[br]actually doing an experiment with the 1:13:51.400,1:13:52.699 sacristy 1:13:52.699,1:13:53.709 notion 1:13:53.709,1:13:57.979 so that i don't know how far they've[br]gotten into releasing 1:13:57.979,1:14:02.409 functionality to make it available but[br]my understanding is that they see the 1:14:02.409,1:14:03.550 need for 1:14:03.550,1:14:05.950 uh... the order to avoid the 1:14:05.950,1:14:08.919 small businesses to have a place to go[br]home to get help 1:14:08.919,1:14:12.489 because the building helped me get today[br]tends to be 1:14:12.489,1:14:16.840 antivirus operating download which does[br]help to some degree but all of you sure 1:14:16.840,1:14:18.149 very familiar with 1:14:18.149,1:14:20.929 daisy row attacks which are increasingly[br]common 1:14:20.929,1:14:25.199 and the other thing i worry about[br]specifically is the response to suffer 1:14:25.199,1:14:26.250 tak 1:14:26.250,1:14:31.900 if you have a young uh... an attack[br]wishing let's take it distributed in the 1:14:31.900,1:14:33.600 home services 1:14:33.600,1:14:37.190 uh... if you're interested in responses[br]i'm going to wipe out this drives a 1:14:37.190,1:14:39.530 volvo machines that are attacking me 1:14:39.530,1:14:43.480 turns out those machines are probably[br]owned by citizens 1:14:43.480,1:14:45.659 who don't know their machines are[br]infected 1:14:45.659,1:14:49.489 and be able to wipe out this transit you[br]know a million people 1:14:49.489,1:14:53.130 some of those uh... machines were[br]important for daily operation 1:14:53.130,1:14:55.409 and suddenly we have found ourselves and[br]for 1:14:55.409,1:14:58.219 so that can't be right answers so we[br]have to think our way through our 1:14:58.219,1:15:00.800 carefully about how we attribute the[br]source 1:15:00.800,1:15:03.679 and what we do about the case where 1:15:03.679,1:15:08.369 the actual attacking devices are not[br]under the control actually abusers 1:15:08.369,1:15:12.379 that is still a lot of work to be done 1:15:12.379,1:15:15.269 saying yeah i think in the beginning you[br]mentioned uh... the next big thing 1:15:15.269,1:15:18.960 possibly people using a device is used[br]to do 1:15:18.960,1:15:21.829 xyz_ likely music on the same room 1:15:21.829,1:15:26.369 uh... play video record surveillance is[br]tough on you use your more thoughts 1:15:26.369,1:15:28.830 about about that i'm market myself 1:15:28.830,1:15:30.639 what he said that though 1:15:30.639,1:15:35.329 so what you know one of the things that[br]i find interesting different one figure 1:15:35.329,1:15:36.780 question suggest 1:15:36.780,1:15:38.789 imagine you're driving in the car 1:15:38.789,1:15:43.800 and uh... you are asking questions like[br]how do i get to this destination 1:15:43.800,1:15:48.100 uh... the voice message may go to a[br]speech understanding system 1:15:48.100,1:15:52.070 but the answer may come back on the[br]navigational display on the car everyone 1:15:52.070,1:15:54.719 that using two devices at the same time 1:15:54.719,1:15:57.870 the way that the system navigational[br]system 1:15:57.870,1:16:02.969 knows uh... what is the address of the[br]occasional displays that the system is 1:16:02.969,1:16:06.770 taking her voice is also telling the[br]destination here the other devices in 1:16:06.770,1:16:07.710 the car 1:16:07.710,1:16:09.630 how about you walk into a hotel room 1:16:09.630,1:16:11.340 animal that was turned on 1:16:11.340,1:16:14.969 animal well discovers a high-resolution[br]display that below instead of showing 1:16:14.969,1:16:18.290 everything on the train eagle's wing of[br]the mobile now suddenly put it up on a 1:16:18.290,1:16:20.189 large high-resolution 1:16:20.189,1:16:23.970 so these are all kinds things that i'm[br]imagine we could do 1:16:23.970,1:16:28.500 access control is clearly an issue do[br]you want to be lady do that the other 1:16:28.500,1:16:32.280 dining room next door doesn't want to[br]look at what's on his mama 1:16:32.280,1:16:35.849 uh... on your high-resolution display so[br]it's clear that we have to do something 1:16:35.849,1:16:36.869 make sure 1:16:36.869,1:16:38.530 uh... things are promptly control 1:16:38.530,1:16:42.619 weird question over here but i a north[br]microphone just a minute 1:16:42.619,1:16:46.169 thank you for being here and thank you[br]for your contributions mister sir 1:16:46.169,1:16:52.499 uh... my questions pertaining to see and[br]following 1:16:52.499,1:16:56.469 seeing ccp underlying sockets interested 1:16:56.469,1:16:58.149 two point 1:16:58.149,1:17:00.379 seriously 1:17:00.379,1:17:05.259 single stream transport consistent[br]inorder messaging astrology field is the 1:17:05.259,1:17:12.259 right choice speed communicate so first[br]of all answers 1:17:12.469,1:17:17.290 that one of the reasons that insulin[br]saying is you can't intended for 1:17:17.290,1:17:23.190 and so and many party p has one for[br]example http city and town at pcp 1:17:23.190,1:17:25.670 but others are just you pcp 1:17:25.670,1:17:30.449 so committed question no i don't think[br]the pcp_ is the only thing she begins 1:17:30.449,1:17:33.949 it's a astonishing to me that it has[br]actually serviced us as well as it 1:17:33.949,1:17:34.730 happens 1:17:34.730,1:17:38.050 when you think about it's set of[br]constraints and everything else 1:17:38.050,1:17:43.239 but a lot of what happens on the net is[br]uh... that that uses pcp 1:17:43.239,1:17:46.839 does not necessarily use it for[br]subsequent actions so they're uniquely 1:17:46.839,1:17:47.800 streams 1:17:47.800,1:17:52.889 party p streams that are activated by[br]the web based http 1:17:52.889,1:17:58.159 uh... activates a string delivery which[br]is not over jcp it may be over different 1:17:58.159,1:17:59.080 protocol 1:17:59.080,1:18:00.949 and that's all the right thing 1:18:00.949,1:18:03.860 here i think here is to have protocols[br]that are 1:18:03.860,1:18:06.969 appropriate to the application that[br]you're looking for 1:18:06.969,1:18:09.829 uh... so i'm actually encourage people 1:18:09.829,1:18:14.239 to i'll take advantage of fact the[br]Internet is so open to try things out 1:18:14.239,1:18:18.329 there's nothing that's not to directly[br]from on building a whole new set of 1:18:18.329,1:18:19.460 applications 1:18:19.460,1:18:22.570 and we see this kind there's a good[br]example of that where they simply 1:18:22.570,1:18:24.409 download an application 1:18:24.409,1:18:25.699 when you use it 1:18:25.699,1:18:26.719 instead of 1:18:26.719,1:18:29.039 you know anything else in mind that mail 1:18:29.039,1:18:33.249 uh... so handing out frankly I'd be[br]happy to see people invented protocols 1:18:33.249,1:18:36.579 and do a better job for something soon[br]ccp candy 1:18:36.579,1:18:43.370 is so amazing to me and it's been so[br]robust orchestrated time 1:18:43.370,1:18:44.599 out 1:18:44.599,1:18:47.139 action how do you think about privacy 1:18:47.139,1:18:48.560 like well all 1:18:48.560,1:18:52.350 hard times used he he 1:18:52.350,1:18:56.729 in the future is party can be the most[br]valuable assets 1:18:56.729,1:19:03.599 and that using a commonweal percentages[br]stations to the usage of the state 1:19:03.599,1:19:06.159 so is it that well first of all we are[br]intent 1:19:06.159,1:19:10.210 we aware of the importance of preserving[br]priority and privacy and weak 1:19:10.210,1:19:13.420 paid dearly for a couple of mistakes[br]that happen 1:19:13.420,1:19:17.380 elected incidental collection of[br]information when we were doing street 1:19:17.380,1:19:18.689 view 1:19:18.689,1:19:22.730 i think though that privacy is becoming[br]increasingly hard to protect 1:19:22.730,1:19:26.820 the reason is not because who has[br]information we will fight very hard for 1:19:26.820,1:19:30.320 to maintain your privacy we have[br]resisted government demand 1:19:30.320,1:19:34.329 for information more actively and many[br]other companies and also a whole 1:19:34.329,1:19:35.690 a lot of information 1:19:35.690,1:19:39.489 but we do it ourselves and we take[br]pictures of them allows we upload onto 1:19:39.489,1:19:40.659 the website 1:19:40.659,1:19:44.550 some people are discovered being in[br]places where they were doing the people 1:19:44.550,1:19:47.719 you put the pictures that we do this to[br]every friend but it isn't your friend 1:19:47.719,1:19:48.719 somebody 1:19:48.719,1:19:50.000 was not a 1:19:50.000,1:19:53.950 on your facebook or something somebody[br]else's fault jobs at a party said he 1:19:53.950,1:19:57.649 wasn't there america's in trouble[br]because picture a 1:19:57.649,1:20:03.040 so the issue here is learning what part[br]social conventions should be 1:20:03.040,1:20:06.540 to deal with the fact that we have said[br]privacy invasion 1:20:06.540,1:20:08.739 uh... teja lodging available to us 1:20:08.739,1:20:10.159 on the google site 1:20:10.159,1:20:13.570 we do use the data to help figure out[br]how to target as we're very up front 1:20:13.570,1:20:14.770 about that 1:20:14.770,1:20:17.079 but we don't give the day than anybody[br]else 1:20:17.079,1:20:21.219 some people nationally our business[br]model is saldana value to somebody else 1:20:21.219,1:20:22.510 is not needed 1:20:22.510,1:20:25.929 your data is inside our system and it[br]stays there you can get all the data 1:20:25.929,1:20:27.310 back if you want to 1:20:27.310,1:20:31.900 but what is important is that we use the[br]information to deliver advertising 1:20:31.900,1:20:34.280 which is our business model and[br]everybody knows that 1:20:34.280,1:20:38.170 hoping that that information to guess[br]you will actually be of interest to you 1:20:38.170,1:20:40.510 so the purpose behind the information[br]that we're 1:20:40.510,1:20:41.699 accumulating 1:20:41.699,1:20:46.539 uh... is to deliver advertising which is[br]more over to you then than just build 1:20:46.539,1:20:47.840 blanket at 1:20:47.840,1:20:51.110 and for many people that kind of[br]advertising is actually don't you think 1:20:51.110,1:20:55.909 that like advertising it feels like[br]useful 1:20:55.909,1:20:58.000 and say 1:20:58.000,1:20:59.530 i can't hear it 1:20:59.530,1:21:03.030 hoboken given the microphone 1:21:03.030,1:21:09.269 thank you it's a good sense of those[br]data using honest i think i think it was 1:21:09.269,1:21:12.429 well let's see if i were politician i[br]would say that's a hypothetical and i 1:21:12.429,1:21:14.360 don't wanna go ahead 1:21:14.360,1:21:19.209 but it seems to me that that uh... the[br]data is so important and so uh... 1:21:19.209,1:21:23.600 resilient reviews firstly mystery[br]present 1:21:23.600,1:21:26.790 uh... that we would in one trial 1:21:26.790,1:21:30.520 if we did that i don't think company[br]would survive the trip response 1:21:30.520,1:21:32.740 so i'm doubtful certainly the current 1:21:32.740,1:21:34.850 absolutely record 1:21:34.850,1:21:36.919 okay we have time for just or more 1:21:36.919,1:21:40.739 still ahead is that none of them 1:21:40.739,1:21:42.500 uh... thanks again for the talks 1:21:42.500,1:21:46.490 juggle is always of my partner should[br]actually follows up with a couple go of 1:21:46.490,1:21:50.280 regarding uh... that the future of sort[br]of uh... Internet protocols at best but 1:21:50.280,1:21:52.249 dynamic nishant works 1:21:52.249,1:21:55.979 uh... certainly you know we have muscles[br]of mobile phones here but if the gs 1:21:55.979,1:22:00.769 ever wifi goes down the kind of useless[br]um... and certainly for places where 1:22:00.769,1:22:03.989 sat_ jeopardy and that you know[br]backbone was ticket down toward a crisis 1:22:03.989,1:22:07.399 situation where the infrastructure has[br]available the phones and most of these 1:22:07.399,1:22:11.459 devices are not programs to talk to[br]things that aren't next to so uh... i 1:22:11.459,1:22:13.239 mean yet from what they've done uh... 1:22:13.239,1:22:16.979 standpoint you know what was said to be[br]involved in giving them so i really love 1:22:16.979,1:22:17.979 the idea 1:22:17.979,1:22:22.789 but while i was still fairly visiting[br]many dancing on the s 1:22:22.789,1:22:26.590 we prepared a report on public safety[br]networking and that was exactly one of 1:22:26.590,1:22:28.050 the things we pointed out 1:22:28.050,1:22:31.230 this type of a safety net actors to use[br]ltv_ 1:22:31.230,1:22:34.480 and when things are normally okay that's[br]probably all right 1:22:34.480,1:22:37.920 but at some point when you have to train[br]our you know sandy here we have some 1:22:37.920,1:22:39.170 other kind of that 1:22:39.170,1:22:40.610 man made or otherwise 1:22:40.610,1:22:44.880 infrastructure may not be there are all[br]than for example made even his air can't 1:22:44.880,1:22:48.840 get any of the gasoline or daniel or[br]what have you the diesel fuel 1:22:48.840,1:22:50.179 direct generators 1:22:50.179,1:22:54.269 i would really love the idea that our[br]devices could be linked together in a 1:22:54.269,1:22:55.679 message that were 1:22:55.679,1:22:59.150 i think that that's helped the system[br]argues that homework citizen mesh 1:22:59.150,1:23:01.530 network it's automatically some format 1:23:01.530,1:23:07.349 i'm a big fan cooperating that[br]capability into on our devices now 1:23:07.349,1:23:10.630 keep in mind that privacy suggest that[br]we should be encrypting anyway and in 1:23:10.630,1:23:12.320 order to take advantage of that 1:23:12.320,1:23:15.450 you certainly don't want to use a mesh[br]network in which everybody gets taken by 1:23:15.450,1:23:17.650 a hot dogs and mixed metaphors 1:23:17.650,1:23:18.980 when you try to get one 1:23:18.980,1:23:20.469 at the baseball game 1:23:20.469,1:23:24.400 so uh... you really want to be able to[br]use and doing capability that i would 1:23:24.400,1:23:27.100 really like the idea incorporating that 1:23:27.100,1:23:31.139 that would make for much more resilient[br]system 1:23:31.139,1:23:32.949 selling the picture 1:23:32.949,1:23:39.949 okay maybe two more than that i'm ready[br]to go who's got the money 1:23:40.830,1:23:41.909 following up on that 1:23:41.909,1:23:44.870 uh... it seems that most of our[br]programming languages ritually 1:23:44.870,1:23:48.670 antiquated their dirtier towards[br]programming a single clock misco 1:23:48.670,1:23:49.689 computer 1:23:49.689,1:23:52.899 and not on the distributed uh... not not[br]about 1:23:52.899,1:23:55.889 taking advantage of distribution and[br]that's 1:23:55.889,1:23:59.379 patents levels of complex and what do[br]you see I'd heard of a great language 1:23:59.379,1:24:03.429 today bloom coming up quickly 1:24:03.429,1:24:06.340 experimental in which a morning what[br]else and i personally a big banner 1:24:06.340,1:24:08.650 relying which is twenty years old 1:24:08.650,1:24:13.570 uh... and everybody sees between ketchup[br]relying so wbc so i don't actually see a 1:24:13.570,1:24:15.629 number of things going on first of all 1:24:15.629,1:24:19.760 we have program on what the court[br]systems 1:24:19.760,1:24:22.550 m that in itself is a challenge 1:24:22.550,1:24:26.020 uh... the clock speeds are not to keep[br]going up in the otherwise chips a little 1:24:26.020,1:24:28.230 because too much power goes into them so 1:24:28.230,1:24:32.889 uh... we have to deal with that already[br]have a google was well that other thing 1:24:32.889,1:24:34.909 is that uh... 1:24:34.909,1:24:38.520 i really like the idea doing parallel[br]processing 1:24:38.520,1:24:41.260 but look at what we've been able to do[br]in a very 1:24:41.260,1:24:45.250 on way where we split some tests out 1:24:45.250,1:24:47.499 usable parallel strains 1:24:47.499,1:24:51.500 that doesn't require any special[br]programming to do that seti at home 1:24:51.500,1:24:53.099 and the protein folding 1:24:53.099,1:24:55.820 uh... activity who simply parity of[br]simple 1:24:55.820,1:24:57.659 single processor 1:24:57.659,1:25:02.510 software insists it is being executed[br]simultaneously allied member systems 1:25:02.510,1:25:05.030 a lot of our applications at the same 1:25:05.030,1:25:09.340 we we taped testimony waited up into[br]large numbers of karo 1:25:09.340,1:25:10.690 uh... processes 1:25:10.690,1:25:15.690 that don't require simultaneously is of[br]course each corresponding in some 1:25:15.690,1:25:16.739 operation 1:25:16.739,1:25:19.539 we've been able to get away with that[br]for the kinds of applications that we 1:25:19.539,1:25:20.439 had 1:25:20.439,1:25:23.469 but when we start getting into[br]large-scale simulations now it is to be 1:25:23.469,1:25:25.760 very different because then you end up 1:25:25.760,1:25:31.889 having uh... either single instruction[br]stream running against a over i a m data 1:25:31.889,1:25:34.949 that's uh... seven s i n d 1:25:34.949,1:25:37.380 sings traffic stream oracle data stream 1:25:37.380,1:25:43.789 or what you're thinking family more[br]structures statement strings there are 1:25:43.789,1:25:45.360 languages for that 1:25:45.360,1:25:49.679 but some of them are really archaic one[br]of those called put near the grand 1:25:49.679,1:25:52.690 amelia four back in the nineteen[br]seventies 1:25:52.690,1:25:56.210 nobody can figure out how to program[br]usually hard goodyear sounds like 1:25:56.210,1:25:58.830 something that very few people couldn't[br]even speak 1:25:58.830,1:26:01.159 seven or something 1:26:01.159,1:26:02.639 thousand a day 1:26:02.639,1:26:05.460 uh... so i suspect that there is real 1:26:05.460,1:26:08.879 for serious sulfur language development 1:26:08.879,1:26:13.989 and it's a challenge for a cm its[br]members to start pushing direction 1:26:13.989,1:26:17.249 someone actually uh... hope for 1:26:17.249,1:26:20.769 that platforms that are going to become[br]available will return with force us into 1:26:20.769,1:26:23.959 thinking new kinds of programming[br]parents 1:26:23.959,1:26:27.489 some of them are result her a-level[br]languages 1:26:27.489,1:26:30.949 which highlights some of the underlying[br]simplicity complexity 1:26:30.949,1:26:32.159 of the systems 1:26:32.159,1:26:33.670 so idea 1:26:33.670,1:26:37.920 and maybe you have some ideas to pursue[br]that better but if you go and others do 1:26:37.920,1:26:41.640 it sure hope that you make a note to the[br]competency cm 1:26:41.640,1:26:42.980 so we can 1:26:42.980,1:26:45.109 one morning and we really need a break 1:26:45.109,1:26:48.629 his uh... you can follow up on some of[br]the things you mentioned about ah... 1:26:48.629,1:26:50.530 intellectual property and and 1:26:50.530,1:26:54.510 i'm curious about your views on the[br]roles of accuser of the government 1:26:54.510,1:26:57.880 releasing you know more of its own[br]essentially 1:26:57.880,1:27:02.449 uh... at peak is that there is this new[br]is yet another ticket order about uh... 1:27:02.449,1:27:04.209 that came from the white house about 1:27:04.209,1:27:07.539 releasing opened it and through the[br]economic potential molly options roundup 1:27:07.539,1:27:11.070 in data uh... hasn't been a lot of[br]activity a on that front and there's a 1:27:11.070,1:27:14.479 lot more activity on open source in[br]government as well combat but it can be 1:27:14.479,1:27:17.770 kind of nixon's uh... um... basis 1:27:17.770,1:27:21.900 uh... you know as an example i was i was[br]reading at some history uh... of arpan 1:27:21.900,1:27:23.649 and there is an example of 1:27:23.649,1:27:27.099 um... bbn which i guess was one of those[br]who've been companies involved being 1:27:27.099,1:27:28.579 hesitant release 1:27:28.579,1:27:32.550 the uh... stars could i'm behind the[br]uh... i decided to use the packet 1:27:32.550,1:27:36.809 switching computers um... and eventually[br]that you know that uh... turn around and 1:27:36.809,1:27:38.959 and stands up and 1:27:38.959,1:27:42.199 but i'm curious to know what if you're[br]the government what it would really you 1:27:42.199,1:27:45.489 know how do you find the balance between[br]whose opportunist to use it as 1:27:45.489,1:27:49.639 established in open platform that people[br]can bowl economic you know 1:27:49.639,1:27:53.590 cap on top of and abductees verses he[br]did something small you just you know 1:27:53.590,1:27:57.250 it's just a quality piece of software[br]it's less important what you see of the 1:27:57.250,1:28:01.090 sort of opportunities the bounce[br]immigration well at first of all a 1:28:01.090,1:28:05.090 little in this uh... big failure opening 1:28:05.090,1:28:10.189 uh... access to publications opening[br]sister gave reducing 1:28:10.189,1:28:15.159 it was a stiffer and ways to do that not[br]just a city cm properties 1:28:15.159,1:28:17.550 uh... also in the big thing 1:28:17.550,1:28:20.929 of trying to preserve information i[br]mentioned that earlier the digital no 1:28:20.929,1:28:23.770 ideas is that one of those 1:28:23.770,1:28:27.059 uh... i think the increasingly 1:28:27.059,1:28:31.110 we're going to find people and capable[br]of writing their own software we 1:28:31.110,1:28:34.760 wouldn't have remember when spreadsheets[br]came out way back when they're in their 1:28:34.760,1:28:36.719 yes in the early eighties 1:28:36.719,1:28:40.480 everybody became programmers of[br]spreadsheets and they had been formally 1:28:40.480,1:28:42.469 trained to write software 1:28:42.469,1:28:46.299 don't go to imagine that as we work our[br]way up into higher higher level and 1:28:46.299,1:28:49.089 which is that more and more people will[br]have the ability to either to write 1:28:49.089,1:28:50.979 their own software or share 1:28:50.979,1:28:52.090 with each other 1:28:52.090,1:28:59.090 out so if i think that unless we get[br]into this uh... dabbled 1:28:59.420,1:29:03.600 preventing people from sharing their[br]software work sharing what they their 1:29:03.600,1:29:05.590 their intellectual property 1:29:05.590,1:29:08.599 uh... we'll have a higher probability of[br]uh... 1:29:08.599,1:29:11.429 being able to take advantage of[br]everybody's 1:29:11.429,1:29:12.510 skills 1:29:12.510,1:29:15.309 via writing software that's open this[br]more likely 1:29:15.309,1:29:22.309 you source models i don't know whether[br]they disagree organic 1:29:25.619,1:29:27.319 anderson companies that 1:29:27.319,1:29:30.939 uh... that right software that are[br]largely funded by government and it's 1:29:30.939,1:29:35.689 and and the softer is not open uh...[br]over in the same is not open right so so 1:29:35.689,1:29:39.920 well i can tell you that distant cut[br]this short to the records get outta here 1:29:39.920,1:29:43.329 the government's already spoken at least[br]itself 1:29:43.329,1:29:44.530 and the white house 1:29:44.530,1:29:46.260 well sdp_ saying 1:29:46.260,1:29:48.409 the government sponsored stuff 1:29:48.409,1:29:50.469 needs to be system 1:29:50.469,1:29:53.599 well you know there are a whole bunch of[br]questions about winners of the excessive 1:29:53.599,1:29:56.380 over the world to take the get to retain[br]the data 1:29:56.380,1:29:59.469 per period of time for you start your[br]own 1:29:59.469,1:30:01.989 but commercial rights are argument 1:30:01.989,1:30:03.550 that shows up 1:30:03.550,1:30:05.570 uh... when you have government contracts 1:30:05.570,1:30:09.880 and grants and things of that kind and[br]that's a negotiated side if these 1:30:09.880,1:30:13.599 government goes the way it seems to be[br]in eight years in prison 1:30:13.599,1:30:16.959 for people who were working under[br]government grant to make available with 1:30:16.959,1:30:17.919 them 1:30:17.919,1:30:21.190 if the general public will still be an[br]argument over commercial lines 1:30:21.190,1:30:24.800 and so this is not a trivial thing to[br]respond to that certainly the trend 1:30:24.800,1:30:27.199 right now sockets and her 1:30:27.199,1:30:30.569 okay that's all the time we got a[br]ninety-two students but thank you very 1:30:30.569,1:30:30.819 much