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Dialogue: 0,0:00:18.19,0:00:23.81,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Herald Angel: Judith Okonkwo is a\Ntechnology ex-evangelist, a business
Dialogue: 0,0:00:23.81,0:00:33.60,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,psychologist and a co-founder of "We will\Nlead Africa". In 2016 Judith set Imisi 3D
Dialogue: 0,0:00:33.60,0:00:39.87,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,creation lab, which is building the\Necosystem of extended reality technologies
Dialogue: 0,0:00:39.87,0:00:49.95,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,in Lagos, Nigeria. So, please welcome\NJudith. And let's have her talk.
Dialogue: 0,0:00:49.95,0:00:53.34,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Judith Okonkwo: Thank you. Thank you very much!
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Dialogue: 0,0:00:55.60,0:01:00.89,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,JO: Good afternoon everybody. Thank you\Nall for coming today. I am going to talk
Dialogue: 0,0:01:00.89,0:01:06.65,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to you a little bit about the work that\Nwe're doing in Lagos, Nigeria. Just
Dialogue: 0,0:01:06.65,0:01:12.56,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,generally about that and then about some\Nspecific projects that we've been involved in.
Dialogue: 0,0:01:12.56,0:01:17.22,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So usually, when I'm speaking, people\Nsay: Wow, you're doing virtual reality in
Dialogue: 0,0:01:17.22,0:01:22.67,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Nigeria? How come? Why? How did you even\Nthink of starting that there? Let me tell
Dialogue: 0,0:01:22.67,0:01:29.73,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,you a little bit about that journey. Now,\NI don't know if many people here have been
Dialogue: 0,0:01:29.73,0:01:34.13,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to Nigeria, but just to give you some\Ncontext: it's a country in the western
Dialogue: 0,0:01:34.13,0:01:39.77,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,part of Africa. Right now and the\Npopulation is estimated to be about 190
Dialogue: 0,0:01:39.77,0:01:46.07,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,million people. So, there are a lot of us.\NThe projection is that by 2050 though, we
Dialogue: 0,0:01:46.07,0:01:50.85,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,will be the third most populous country in\Nthe world, right. Third after China first,
Dialogue: 0,0:01:50.85,0:01:55.10,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and India second. It's also a country of\Nlots of different cultures and lots of
Dialogue: 0,0:01:55.10,0:02:03.71,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,different languages. At last count there\Nare well over 200 of these. Very diverse.
Dialogue: 0,0:02:03.71,0:02:11.94,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So, in terms of VR, we started a creation\Nlab there in Lagos called Imisi 3D. Imisi
Dialogue: 0,0:02:11.94,0:02:18.40,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,is a Yoruba word and Yoruba is the\Nlanguage of the Yoruba people who you find
Dialogue: 0,0:02:18.40,0:02:23.48,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,in the southwestern part of Nigeria. The\Nword means 'inspiration'. We started out
Dialogue: 0,0:02:23.48,0:02:31.94,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,really small. We, well basically I, got a\Ncomputer, a VR ready computer, a few
Dialogue: 0,0:02:31.94,0:02:38.59,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,headsets, a few books on virtual reality\Nand set up in one of the leading hubs in
Dialogue: 0,0:02:38.59,0:02:41.91,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Lagos, called the Co-Creation\Nhub. So basically, that's what it was.
Dialogue: 0,0:02:41.91,0:02:46.94,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,That was the start. A desk in a corner\Nwhere we said: Hey, if you're even
Dialogue: 0,0:02:46.94,0:02:51.70,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,remotely curious about this technology, if\Nyou want to know what's possible with it,
Dialogue: 0,0:02:51.70,0:02:56.44,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,then come on down. Because as you probably\Nremember, in 2016, a lot of people were
Dialogue: 0,0:02:56.44,0:03:01.08,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,saying: This is the year of virtual\Nreality. There was a lot of expectation
Dialogue: 0,0:03:01.08,0:03:04.77,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that it would come into its own in some\Nway and there was a lot of excitement
Dialogue: 0,0:03:04.77,0:03:11.52,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,about it and we felt that that was a story\Nthat we needed to be a part of as well for
Dialogue: 0,0:03:11.52,0:03:19.13,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,a number of reasons that I'll explore. So,\Nin Nigeria if you think about the country
Dialogue: 0,0:03:19.13,0:03:27.52,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,say 5, 10 years ago, certainly we weren't\Non the, you know, on the global map for
Dialogue: 0,0:03:27.52,0:03:34.29,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,being creators. We were in some fields.\NSo, for example you would always be able
Dialogue: 0,0:03:34.29,0:03:40.01,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to mention super talented Nigerian Authors\Nfor example. But when it came to
Dialogue: 0,0:03:40.01,0:03:46.06,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,technology I don't think we were being\Nthought of as creators a lot. Even though
Dialogue: 0,0:03:46.06,0:03:49.52,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,a lot of creativity was happening, even\Nthough a lot of innovation was happening
Dialogue: 0,0:03:49.52,0:03:54.64,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,in the country. And there's been a real\Ndrive, a real need, to shift that
Dialogue: 0,0:03:54.64,0:03:59.48,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,narrative from one of consumption, where\Nwe're just a market where electronics
Dialogue: 0,0:03:59.48,0:04:04.50,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,technology is being sold, to one where we\Nare actually adopting these technologies
Dialogue: 0,0:04:04.50,0:04:10.02,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and using them for our own purposes.\NMaking them work for us as well. So, being
Dialogue: 0,0:04:10.02,0:04:18.58,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,able to move that needle from consumption\Nto creation. Back to the start. We began
Dialogue: 0,0:04:18.58,0:04:23.52,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,on the first week of July in 2016 and that\Nfirst week we had a virtual reality
Dialogue: 0,0:04:23.52,0:04:28.53,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,showcase. This is a picture from the\Nevent. We asked people to come, you know,
Dialogue: 0,0:04:28.53,0:04:32.11,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,if you're curious, if you've never tried\Nit before. If you're wondering what this
Dialogue: 0,0:04:32.11,0:04:36.73,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,word that everybody's been talking about\Nis. And that day, over the course of about
Dialogue: 0,0:04:36.73,0:04:45.25,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,five hours, we had about 100 people come\Ndown to try out VR, talk about VR, find
Dialogue: 0,0:04:45.25,0:04:49.90,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,out what the possibilities might be with\Nthis technology, figure out if it's for
Dialogue: 0,0:04:49.90,0:04:55.47,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,them. And what's really interesting for me\Npersonally is that, back then in 2016,
Dialogue: 0,0:04:55.47,0:05:04.81,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that summer when we had people come into\Nour space, probably 90 percent of them had
Dialogue: 0,0:05:04.81,0:05:11.15,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,never tried out virtual reality before.\NThey maybe heard about it, might have seen
Dialogue: 0,0:05:11.15,0:05:15.06,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,a Google Cardboard, but you know, they\Ndidn't really know what it was. Today when
Dialogue: 0,0:05:15.06,0:05:19.31,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I have events like this, at least half of\Nthe people coming in, at the very least
Dialogue: 0,0:05:19.31,0:05:24.50,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,half, would have tried out VR. So, it's\Njust great to see even with time and with
Dialogue: 0,0:05:24.50,0:05:30.45,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,activity, how things can change. But on\Nthis day in 2016 we had people come in
Dialogue: 0,0:05:30.45,0:05:34.73,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and, you know, they were challenged to\Nthink about what is possible with this
Dialogue: 0,0:05:34.73,0:05:38.14,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,technology. But then it seemed like a lot\Nof talk. You know, you come in, you put on
Dialogue: 0,0:05:38.14,0:05:43.21,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,a few headsets, you try the Samsung Gear\NVR, you maybe try a Google Cardboard, you
Dialogue: 0,0:05:43.21,0:05:47.10,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,start to talk. But then what next? And\Nthat's something that we really wanted to
Dialogue: 0,0:05:47.10,0:05:53.39,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,make different. You know, let it not just\Nbe talk. We wanted people to know that
Dialogue: 0,0:05:53.39,0:05:57.55,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,these were technology that they should use\Nto create as well. So we decided to have a
Dialogue: 0,0:05:57.55,0:06:03.48,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,hackathon. Then, when it held in November\N2016, it was the first virtual reality
Dialogue: 0,0:06:03.48,0:06:08.52,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,hackathon in Nigeria. And promoting the\Nbelief that we have, that these
Dialogue: 0,0:06:08.52,0:06:13.40,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,technologies are actually tools, that we\Ncan use to create solutions, we challenged
Dialogue: 0,0:06:13.40,0:06:19.66,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the participants to think about creating\Nsolutions for either education, healthcare
Dialogue: 0,0:06:19.66,0:06:25.11,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,or tourism. Now we chose these particular\Nsectors because, we'd recognize that these
Dialogue: 0,0:06:25.11,0:06:29.09,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,are areas in which there was quite a bit\Nof scope for immediate significant impact
Dialogue: 0,0:06:29.09,0:06:36.80,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,from a place like Nigeria. And here's what\Ncame out of it. In the picture there you
Dialogue: 0,0:06:36.80,0:06:42.38,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,can see what was the leading hack by the\Nwinning team. It was a product that they
Dialogue: 0,0:06:42.38,0:06:49.09,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,called "learn" but actually spelt L E V R\NN and it's an experience square, as you
Dialogue: 0,0:06:49.09,0:06:54.30,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,can see there's a leap motion attached to\Na Samsung Gear VR. And it allows you to
Dialogue: 0,0:06:54.30,0:06:58.38,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,learn how to code using hand based\Ngestures. So it's really exciting to see
Dialogue: 0,0:06:58.38,0:07:02.36,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,people thinking about how they could push\Nthe boundary beyond what was even just
Dialogue: 0,0:07:02.36,0:07:06.61,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,traditionally possible with the gear VR as\Nit was then. And to start thinking
Dialogue: 0,0:07:06.61,0:07:10.41,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,creatively about how you might use these\Ntechnologies and tools to learn.
Dialogue: 0,0:07:10.41,0:07:16.15,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Especially, you know, in disciplines that\Nwere always challenged about how best we
Dialogue: 0,0:07:16.15,0:07:26.53,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,can get people to learn and move with the\Ntimes. OK. So, I've got a few numbers up
Dialogue: 0,0:07:26.53,0:07:30.20,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,on the screen. I wonder if anybody knows\Nwhat they might refer to?
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Dialogue: 0,0:07:35.30,0:07:45.85,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,JO: Anybody? No? Okay. So the first one,\N263 Million, is a number from UNICEF from
Dialogue: 0,0:07:45.85,0:07:51.47,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,2014. And then, that was the estimate\Nabout the number of children who were out
Dialogue: 0,0:07:51.47,0:07:58.80,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,of school in the world. The second number,\N13.2 Million, is a number out of school
Dialogue: 0,0:07:58.80,0:08:04.79,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,children in just Nigeria. And that final\Nnumber, 1 Billion., that's a number of
Dialogue: 0,0:08:04.79,0:08:09.97,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,children in the world who don't really\Nhave access to good quality education. You
Dialogue: 0,0:08:09.97,0:08:14.04,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,might wonder why have these numbers up\Nright now. And that's because I believe
Dialogue: 0,0:08:14.04,0:08:19.13,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that virtual reality is something that we\Ncan use to tackle these kind of
Dialogue: 0,0:08:19.13,0:08:26.73,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,statistics. One of the things that we're\Nexploring in Lagos, is looking at VR for
Dialogue: 0,0:08:26.73,0:08:33.64,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,schools. Now certainly back in 2016 when\Nwe were starting out, quite a lot of the
Dialogue: 0,0:08:33.64,0:08:39.75,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,attention with VR was being put into\Nsectors like gaming and entertainment. But
Dialogue: 0,0:08:39.75,0:08:44.18,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,as I mentioned, we we've been wanting to\Nshift the needle to to other sectors to
Dialogue: 0,0:08:44.18,0:08:52.57,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,see ways in which we can adapt and use it.\NAnd I think that actually VR, despite the,
Dialogue: 0,0:08:52.57,0:08:58.36,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,you know, the common perception that it's\Nperhaps elitist, perhaps expensive, in its
Dialogue: 0,0:08:58.36,0:09:04.60,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,low cost form could actually be a solution\Nfor education. And this is how it might
Dialogue: 0,0:09:04.60,0:09:10.20,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,work. Imagine if we took low cost VR,\Nsomething as simple say as a Google
Dialogue: 0,0:09:10.20,0:09:16.11,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Cardboard, mobile phones, and we all know\Nthe story of mobile phone penetration
Dialogue: 0,0:09:16.11,0:09:22.02,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,increasing daily in Africa across the\Ncontinent, solar portables because in some
Dialogue: 0,0:09:22.02,0:09:28.65,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,places electricity from the grid is not\Nreliable. And with that you have a device,
Dialogue: 0,0:09:28.65,0:09:32.30,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that once you have the right content\Navailable for it, is an all in one
Dialogue: 0,0:09:32.30,0:09:36.81,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,learning solution that's fairly portable\Nand can be deployed really just about
Dialogue: 0,0:09:36.81,0:09:42.76,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,anywhere. Now for me, this is one of the\Nsuper exciting possibilities with a
Dialogue: 0,0:09:42.76,0:09:51.88,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,technology like virtual reality, that we\Ncan go into schools, or even the 13.2
Dialogue: 0,0:09:51.88,0:09:56.14,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,million out of school children, go to them\Nand give them a device with the right
Dialogue: 0,0:09:56.14,0:09:59.64,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,content that will allow them to start\Nlearning. And learning in ways that were
Dialogue: 0,0:09:59.64,0:10:04.65,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,not possible because, if you were to go to\Na traditional public school, I mentioned
Dialogue: 0,0:10:04.65,0:10:09.45,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,we are 190+ Million people, the\Ninfrastructure is challenged in terms of
Dialogue: 0,0:10:09.45,0:10:13.79,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,trying to deal with that number, and\Nyou'll easily have classrooms with over
Dialogue: 0,0:10:13.79,0:10:18.66,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,100 children in them. Which means, that\Nyou're very limited in terms of the
Dialogue: 0,0:10:18.66,0:10:23.30,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,interaction that's possible between\Nstudent and teacher, and also with the
Dialogue: 0,0:10:23.30,0:10:29.43,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,amount of infrastructure that you can\Nprovide. But as you know with VR, whether
Dialogue: 0,0:10:29.43,0:10:33.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,it's a virtual lab where they can do\Nexperiments, whether it's the opportunity
Dialogue: 0,0:10:33.99,0:10:39.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to visit the pyramids in Egypt or even to\Nexplore the solar system, all of a sudden
Dialogue: 0,0:10:39.99,0:10:45.23,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,opportunities and experiences that would\Nnot be available even if, you know, we
Dialogue: 0,0:10:45.23,0:10:49.26,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,suddenly kind of like diverted our whole\Nbudget to education, are now possible and
Dialogue: 0,0:10:49.26,0:10:57.58,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I think that's really exciting. And that's\Njust a picture from one of the schools
Dialogue: 0,0:10:57.58,0:11:02.45,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,where we have been going in to explore\Nusing virtual reality to supplement the
Dialogue: 0,0:11:02.45,0:11:09.15,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,curriculum for education. Education is one\Npossibility, but something else that also
Dialogue: 0,0:11:09.15,0:11:15.68,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,excites me about these technologies and\Nwhat is possible, is when it comes to art
Dialogue: 0,0:11:15.68,0:11:24.29,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and culture. This past week one of the\Nleading African philosophers, a Nigerian
Dialogue: 0,0:11:24.29,0:11:31.13,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,woman called Sophia Oluwole, died and she\Nwas a very, very big supporter, promoter
Dialogue: 0,0:11:31.13,0:11:38.82,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,of African culture, of Nigerian culture\Nand of dipping into your heritage to take
Dialogue: 0,0:11:38.82,0:11:43.45,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that what was useful there and bring it\Nand use it to help to define the life that
Dialogue: 0,0:11:43.45,0:11:46.40,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,you're living today and the one you want\Nto create for the future. And I
Dialogue: 0,0:11:46.40,0:11:51.36,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,particularly like this, that you know,\Nfrom one of her papers where she says it's
Dialogue: 0,0:11:51.36,0:11:54.54,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,up to us and she was really calling out to\Neveryone to discover and promote a
Dialogue: 0,0:11:54.54,0:12:00.29,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,reliable African intellectual atmosphere\Nbased on narratives presented in the truth
Dialogue: 0,0:12:00.29,0:12:05.57,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,of their language and authenticity. And I\Nbring this up now because I think that
Dialogue: 0,0:12:05.57,0:12:13.25,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that is something else that this\Ntechnology enables us to, in a sense,
Dialogue: 0,0:12:13.25,0:12:19.97,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,convey our reality and tell stories and\Nthe truth of our language and authenticity.
Dialogue: 0,0:12:19.97,0:12:25.56,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And I want to tell you about two projects\Nthat relate to that. The first is one that
Dialogue: 0,0:12:25.56,0:12:30.10,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,brings Nigeria and Switzerland together.\NSo, earlier this year I was approached by
Dialogue: 0,0:12:30.10,0:12:36.23,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,a team around the IAF festival in\NSwitzerland. It's a festival that is
Dialogue: 0,0:12:36.23,0:12:41.37,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,focused on contemporary African art\Npredominantly photography and it's held in
Dialogue: 0,0:12:41.37,0:12:49.93,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Basel each year. Now each year, along with\Nphotographies that are exhibited, they add
Dialogue: 0,0:12:49.93,0:12:56.63,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,an element of contemporary art. This year\Nit happend to be virtual reality. And for
Dialogue: 0,0:12:56.63,0:13:05.74,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that, they said: Well, what would it be\Nlike if we were to juxtapose living in
Dialogue: 0,0:13:05.74,0:13:11.53,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Switzerland - take a city, Basel - and in\Nan African country Nigeria. Let's take a
Dialogue: 0,0:13:11.53,0:13:19.86,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,city, Lagos. What would that look like.\NSo, what we created was something called
Dialogue: 0,0:13:19.86,0:13:27.60,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Reality Check. It was a very simple VR\Nexperience actually. But one with a lot of
Dialogue: 0,0:13:27.60,0:13:36.36,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,potential and possibility. What we did was\Nmap out a number of locations. So, we took
Dialogue: 0,0:13:36.36,0:13:38.93,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,traditional places that you would visit.\NIf you've been to Brasel you know it's
Dialogue: 0,0:13:38.93,0:13:44.80,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,quite compact, and it's really easy to\Nwalk around the center of the town. And we
Dialogue: 0,0:13:44.80,0:13:54.48,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,took places like a church, a shopping mall, a \Nschool and map these, and then wanted
Dialogue: 0,0:13:54.48,0:13:59.46,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to do the same in Lagos. Now Lagos is\Nquite widespread. So we chose a particular
Dialogue: 0,0:13:59.46,0:14:06.25,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,neighborhood, Yaba, and then did the same.\NWe went to a church for example and
Dialogue: 0,0:14:06.25,0:14:12.86,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,captured the space with 360 video. And\Nwhat was then possible was that, when you
Dialogue: 0,0:14:12.86,0:14:20.55,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,came to this festival in Switzerland, you\Ncould go on a walking tour of the city.
Dialogue: 0,0:14:20.55,0:14:29.48,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But alongside that tour of Basel you could\Nalso have one of Lagos. So, you could walk
Dialogue: 0,0:14:29.48,0:14:36.14,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to the church in Basel, seen in the\Npicture there. And while there, you would
Dialogue: 0,0:14:36.14,0:14:44.34,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,then have an experience of a church in\NLagos. We have, you know, over the course
Dialogue: 0,0:14:44.34,0:14:50.01,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,of the week that I spent there with them a\Nwhole series of people come round to come
Dialogue: 0,0:14:50.01,0:14:56.64,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and figure out what it might be like, to\Nstep into a space in Lagos, Nigeria if
Dialogue: 0,0:14:56.64,0:15:01.21,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,only for a few minutes. Now each of the\Nvideos was really short and just about two
Dialogue: 0,0:15:01.21,0:15:07.63,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,minutes and I'm actually going to play one\Nfor you to see. But what was exciting for
Dialogue: 0,0:15:07.63,0:15:12.89,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the people who tried it out, from what\Nthey said back to us, was just being able
Dialogue: 0,0:15:12.89,0:15:19.75,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to shift your reality in a way that, as we\Nknow, is not possible with traditional
Dialogue: 0,0:15:19.75,0:15:26.32,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,media, not with the books you read, not\Nwith the videos you watch in 2D. Well, let
Dialogue: 0,0:15:26.32,0:15:36.77,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,me show you one. So here we are. This is\Nthe church in Lagos.
Dialogue: 0,0:15:36.77,0:15:48.02,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,{\i1}JO mumbling{\i0} Let's just get that...\N{\i1}voices in the background of the video{\i0}
Dialogue: 0,0:15:48.02,0:15:55.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,JO: And what we did is, during a weekday\Nwe were able to go in. Where the camera is
Dialogue: 0,0:15:55.99,0:16:02.94,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,positioned, is up where the choir\Ntraditionally sits on Sunday. And it
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Dialogue: 0,0:17:10.65,0:17:12.100,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,JO: And so this video is much like the
Dialogue: 0,0:17:12.100,0:17:18.95,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,others. They were all roughly two minutes.\NThe camera was stationary. And what we
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Dialogue: 0,0:17:22.35,0:17:26.88,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,doing the walking tour, where you'd get to\Na location and stand and look around. That
Dialogue: 0,0:17:26.88,0:17:32.54,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,you have that same experience in Lagos\Nthat you walked into, you know, the
Dialogue: 0,0:17:32.54,0:17:36.16,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,location in question. You stood at a spot\Nand you were able to look around and
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Dialogue: 0,0:18:12.42,0:18:41.80,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,JO: Just give me a second. OK.
Dialogue: 0,0:18:41.80,0:18:47.80,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And that experience that I just showed in \Nthe church was also done in locations like a
Dialogue: 0,0:18:47.80,0:18:57.88,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,university, a school, a library in Lagos,\Na bank, a Medical Center. So, just little
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Dialogue: 0,0:19:03.23,0:19:08.38,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,share. And we're hoping to do the flip\Nlater on, where in Lagos you will then be
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Dialogue: 0,0:19:22.22,0:19:28.79,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,sure a lot of people have seen around\Nquite a bit. And I first encountered it in
Dialogue: 0,0:19:28.79,0:19:34.27,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,one of Chinua Achebe's novels. It says:\NThere is that great proverb - that until
Dialogue: 0,0:19:34.27,0:19:38.89,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the lions have their own historians, the\Nhistory of the hunt will always glorify
Dialogue: 0,0:19:38.89,0:19:44.17,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the hunter. And of course you know, we\Nknow how this applies in lots of ways. We
Dialogue: 0,0:19:44.17,0:19:49.01,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,talk about the way, you know, history\Nmight have been told. History as we know
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Dialogue: 0,0:19:56.22,0:20:01.76,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,people around the world. But storytelling\NI think, is particularly important with
Dialogue: 0,0:20:01.76,0:20:08.30,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,360. And what was exciting for me as well\Nearlier this year is, when we had a member
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Dialogue: 0,0:20:15.11,0:20:21.64,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,first 360 documentary. And this is just a\Nshort, about four or five minutes long.
Dialogue: 0,0:20:21.64,0:20:26.37,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But it's the first Nigerian made 360\Ndocumentary in one of the internally
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Dialogue: 0,0:20:30.56,0:20:39.66,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Maiduguri. And this short documentary in\NBakassi actually tells a story of a boy
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Dialogue: 0,0:20:50.69,0:20:57.23,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,country. And his mother as well. So, he\Nlived with his grandmother in an IDP camp
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Dialogue: 0,0:21:04.41,0:21:09.62,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,what it really means to be in that space,\Nto understand that tragedy a little bit
Dialogue: 0,0:21:09.62,0:21:18.32,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,more. We had a screening for this\Ndocumentary in Lagos in November, but even
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Dialogue: 0,0:21:22.89,0:21:28.21,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,had even been to IDP camps in the\NNortheast and other parts of Nigeria. And
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Dialogue: 0,0:21:47.19,0:21:53.77,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,There's so much activity, so much noise,\Nso much jostling, that you are not really
Dialogue: 0,0:21:53.77,0:21:59.88,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,able to process what's happening around\Nyou. But when you have the experience in
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Dialogue: 0,0:22:49.81,0:22:56.98,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Toks Bakare: My experience watching the\Ndocumentary was intensely moving. I think
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Dialogue: 0,0:23:16.66,0:23:20.27,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,through. So that, that was an interesting\Nfeeling that was different from watching a
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Dialogue: 0,0:23:33.08,0:23:41.39,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,JO: OK. So, I've talked a little bit about\Nsome of the projects that we've done or
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Dialogue: 0,0:23:54.20,0:23:58.03,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,talk a little bit more now about kind of\Nlike the future and where we see ourselves
Dialogue: 0,0:23:58.03,0:24:03.84,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,going. I have the words "bright future"\Nthere because I think we all agree that
Dialogue: 0,0:24:03.84,0:24:09.71,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,these technologies hold a lot of promise.\NBut there are particular challenges for us
Dialogue: 0,0:24:09.71,0:24:13.22,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,in a place like Nigeria, and one of them is,\Nyou know, even just access to the
Dialogue: 0,0:24:13.22,0:24:20.06,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,hardware. So one of the things that we are\Nexploring is, what would it be like if we
Dialogue: 0,0:24:20.06,0:24:26.88,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,were able to, you know, actually deal with\Nthat obstacle. What if we created a VR
Dialogue: 0,0:24:26.88,0:24:32.50,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,headset that was purpose built for our\Nlocale. An all in one solar powered VR
Dialogue: 0,0:24:32.50,0:24:38.73,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,headset. One that's me with locally\Nsourced materials. How would that change
Dialogue: 0,0:24:38.73,0:24:44.08,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,things? Is that something that we are\Ntrying to do a design challenge around. We
Dialogue: 0,0:24:44.08,0:24:49.66,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,started one last year but tried to do it\Nvirtually. We'll be looking at in the new
Dialogue: 0,0:24:49.66,0:24:55.17,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,year having a team come into work on this\Nand attempt to build one. Now if we can do
Dialogue: 0,0:24:55.17,0:25:00.22,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that, it becomes really exciting for us\Nbecause yes, we have platforms like
Dialogue: 0,0:25:00.22,0:25:05.35,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,YouTube where you can share 360 content,\Nand Vimeo, and others. But not a lot of
Dialogue: 0,0:25:05.35,0:25:09.92,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,people have access to headsets and other\Nelements of the technology and we can
Dialogue: 0,0:25:09.92,0:25:17.29,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,start to do something about that actively.\NSo looking at ways in which we can build
Dialogue: 0,0:25:17.29,0:25:21.79,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and, you know, do R&D to suit our\Npurposes it's something that's very big
Dialogue: 0,0:25:21.79,0:25:28.28,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,for us. We are also working really hard to\Nbuild a community of content creators.
Dialogue: 0,0:25:28.28,0:25:33.31,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,People who will work with these\Ntechnologies, the people who will create
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Dialogue: 0,0:25:37.80,0:25:43.71,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Nigeria. For that we have started to hold\Ncommunity meet ups. They've been running
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Dialogue: 0,0:25:49.78,0:25:55.77,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and have since, you know, had the\Ncommunity grow with people coming from all
Dialogue: 0,0:25:55.77,0:26:02.56,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,sorts of different sectors. From the arts,\Nyou know, from technology, people from
Dialogue: 0,0:26:02.56,0:26:08.05,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,business as well who are even looking at\Nthe opportunities to commercialize the
Dialogue: 0,0:26:08.05,0:26:11.73,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,technology locally. And we're excited\Nabout what's possible when all of these
Dialogue: 0,0:26:11.73,0:26:19.03,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,people come together. We're also trying to\Nconnect communities across Africa because
Dialogue: 0,0:26:19.03,0:26:23.78,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,we know that it's one thing to try and\Nbuild communities locally and grow
Dialogue: 0,0:26:23.78,0:26:28.18,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,expertise there. But if we're joined up\Ntogether across the continent a lot more
Dialogue: 0,0:26:28.18,0:26:33.66,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,will be possible a lot quicker. Earlier\Nthis year we held what was at that time
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Dialogue: 0,0:26:38.51,0:26:44.98,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,simultaneously across seven countries. We\Nhad over 35 teams take part and the
Dialogue: 0,0:26:44.98,0:26:51.92,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,overall winning team was a team of three\Nfemales from Egypt. And much like that
Dialogue: 0,0:26:51.92,0:26:57.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,first one that I mentioned in 2016 where\Nwe said create for education, or health
Dialogue: 0,0:26:57.99,0:27:01.70,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,care or tourism, we asked the teams to do\Nthe same. So, create for education, health
Dialogue: 0,0:27:01.70,0:27:07.43,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,care, tourism. However this time we added\Nthe environment, it happened around Earth
Dialogue: 0,0:27:07.43,0:27:14.36,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Day, and also social justice. The winning\Nteam created an experience that allows you
Dialogue: 0,0:27:14.36,0:27:18.62,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to learn about how to take care of the\Nenvironment. And it was built for the HTC
Dialogue: 0,0:27:18.62,0:27:26.74,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Vive. We also have a growing community\Nthat is online on Facebook. They come from
Dialogue: 0,0:27:26.74,0:27:31.94,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,over 20 different African countries. It's\Nover 900 strong and growing every day.
Dialogue: 0,0:27:31.94,0:27:35.55,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,We're really excited about the\Npossibilities as we all come together and
Dialogue: 0,0:27:35.55,0:27:41.89,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,start to figure out how we can work and\Ncreate. We believe collaboration is our
Dialogue: 0,0:27:41.89,0:27:48.15,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,future, whether it's across these African\Ncountries or further across the world, the
Dialogue: 0,0:27:48.15,0:27:53.11,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,work that we did with Switzerland, whether\Nit's being here and connecting with you
Dialogue: 0,0:27:53.11,0:28:01.19,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,all. But we know that together we can do\Nso much more. I usually end my talks with
Dialogue: 0,0:28:01.19,0:28:06.52,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,this challenge to people particularly when\NI'm talking about using the technologies
Dialogue: 0,0:28:06.52,0:28:13.37,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,for the first time. Very, very excited to\Nknow that the future is ours to create and
Dialogue: 0,0:28:13.37,0:28:20.01,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,with things like VR and AR, solutions\Ncreated in a way that maybe we're not yet
Dialogue: 0,0:28:20.01,0:28:26.90,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,imagining but perhaps we should. So what\Nwill you do? I want to leave you with one
Dialogue: 0,0:28:26.90,0:28:39.71,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,last video that shows what it's like in\Nthe lab.
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Dialogue: 0,0:29:39.94,0:29:51.26,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,JO: Thank you.\N{\i1}applause{\i0}
Dialogue: 0,0:29:51.26,0:29:55.39,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Herald: Thank you very much. We have time\Nfor Q&A. There are two microphones
Dialogue: 0,0:29:55.39,0:29:58.83,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,here in the room. One in the middle,\Nmicrophone number 2, and one out to the
Dialogue: 0,0:29:58.83,0:30:02.49,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,side, microphone number 1. And there might\Nalso be questions from the Internet. So
Dialogue: 0,0:30:02.49,0:30:07.03,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,please come up and we have already\Nquestion from microphone number 2.
Dialogue: 0,0:30:07.03,0:30:13.28,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Microphone 2: Hello. So, thanks for the\Npresentation. There is a concept that, I
Dialogue: 0,0:30:13.28,0:30:17.91,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,don't know how valid it is, but the\NInnovator's Dilemma. Basically, if you are
Dialogue: 0,0:30:17.91,0:30:22.62,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,already in a comfortable spot, you're not\Ngoing to push yourself too much, either in
Dialogue: 0,0:30:22.62,0:30:28.44,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,your community or your company. You have\Neither a new player, that is going to make
Dialogue: 0,0:30:28.44,0:30:32.22,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,something radical and is going to\Nchallenge you to make yourself better. And
Dialogue: 0,0:30:32.22,0:30:39.11,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,there was some discussion on this based on\Nthe how for example maybe you not need the
Dialogue: 0,0:30:39.11,0:30:46.14,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,big DSL or fiber infrastructure to just\Njust use 3G or 4G and in some community
Dialogue: 0,0:30:46.14,0:30:50.26,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,with other infrastructure maybe for\Nexample you do mobile payments, like in
Dialogue: 0,0:30:50.26,0:30:59.06,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,China. Could this kind of useage of your\Nfree education be an equivalent of this,
Dialogue: 0,0:30:59.06,0:31:03.55,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that maybe the classroom as we have now is\Npretty good? But if you were so
Dialogue: 0,0:31:03.55,0:31:09.01,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,challenged, that you need to go much\Nfurther. Would it be like new oppurtunity
Dialogue: 0,0:31:09.01,0:31:14.76,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to use much better way to do it.\NJO: So thank you for the question. Yes,
Dialogue: 0,0:31:14.76,0:31:22.47,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,actually I think it might be. And you know\Nyou gave some examples about how leapfrogs
Dialogue: 0,0:31:22.47,0:31:27.20,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,have happened in other parts of the world\Napart from the West, just because they
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Dialogue: 0,0:31:31.67,0:31:39.96,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,able to kind of like evolve in a way that\Ndoesn't have to be anchored in the legacy.
Dialogue: 0,0:31:39.96,0:31:44.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,You know, the history of the technology\Nand how it actually grew. I think the same
Dialogue: 0,0:31:44.00,0:31:50.89,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,is true for for technology like VR being\Nused for education. And I think that
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Dialogue: 0,0:32:00.96,0:32:05.74,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,classroom in a private school in Lagos or\Nyou know or one in the West. It's not
Dialogue: 0,0:32:05.74,0:32:09.48,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,like, you know ,where you have maybe a one\Nto 20 or one to 10 you know teacher
Dialogue: 0,0:32:09.48,0:32:15.30,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,student ratio. It won't have all of the\Ninfrastructure that aids learning as we
Dialogue: 0,0:32:15.30,0:32:20.44,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,know it today. So, you are then challenged\Nto think really creatively about what you
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Dialogue: 0,0:32:26.46,0:32:32.33,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that's why you know worth thinking about\Nthe low cost, you know, VR that might be
Dialogue: 0,0:32:32.33,0:32:36.76,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,mobile device driven or something powered\Nin a similar way, because we know one of
Dialogue: 0,0:32:36.76,0:32:41.08,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the challenges will be power, you know, as\Nwe know it. Because from the grid there,
Dialogue: 0,0:32:41.08,0:32:45.32,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,it's a challenge. And I think as you start\Nto innovate around those realities and
Dialogue: 0,0:32:45.32,0:32:51.06,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,create them, yes, we will be able to\Nleapfrog and potentially redefine what
Dialogue: 0,0:32:51.06,0:32:54.03,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,education looks like, certainly in that\Nspace.
Dialogue: 0,0:32:54.03,0:32:57.20,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Herald: We have question for microphone\Nnumber one.
Dialogue: 0,0:32:57.20,0:33:01.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Microphone 1: Thank you very much for your\Npresentation. I have read a number of
Dialogue: 0,0:33:01.99,0:33:07.67,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,studies where people have found that, if\Nyoung children spend too much time in VR,
Dialogue: 0,0:33:07.67,0:33:11.83,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,if they're very young, it has a problem\Nwith their cognitive development. And I'm
Dialogue: 0,0:33:11.83,0:33:17.86,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,wondering if you're thinking about a sort\Nof scaled approach at what age people are
Dialogue: 0,0:33:17.86,0:33:21.28,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,working with regular computer graphics and\Nthen how they engage with VR.
Dialogue: 0,0:33:21.28,0:33:24.48,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,JO: Absolutely\NMicrophone 1: Get a good education.
Dialogue: 0,0:33:24.48,0:33:30.20,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,JO: Thank you very much. Yes. So for the\Nwork that we're doing at the moment with
Dialogue: 0,0:33:30.20,0:33:36.10,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,VR for schools, where working with\Nchildren who are in secondary school. So
Dialogue: 0,0:33:36.10,0:33:42.02,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,those are children who are typically from\N12 years up and we're very conscious, that
Dialogue: 0,0:33:42.02,0:33:47.71,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,there has been some information about the\Nyou know side effects of VR. But there's
Dialogue: 0,0:33:47.71,0:33:51.14,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,not enough data yet. And so we're\Nconsciously studying, as we're going
Dialogue: 0,0:33:51.14,0:33:55.100,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,along. We're about to start a formal pilot\Nin one of these schools, where we will
Dialogue: 0,0:33:55.100,0:34:00.42,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,actually have a researcher who's working\Non the ground and documenting as we go on.
Dialogue: 0,0:34:00.42,0:34:06.87,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,We by default are limiting, you know, time\Nin VR, because we know, just from what we
Dialogue: 0,0:34:06.87,0:34:10.65,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,know generally about screens and eyes,\Nthat it won't be great to have extended
Dialogue: 0,0:34:10.65,0:34:13.82,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,periods. But we're actively learning as\Nwell.
Dialogue: 0,0:34:13.82,0:34:17.43,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Herald: We have another question from\NMicrophone number 1.
Dialogue: 0,0:34:17.43,0:34:21.48,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Microphone number 1: I see that you are\Nworking with unity alert.
Dialogue: 0,0:34:21.48,0:34:28.81,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But I was wondering if you're also working\Nwith the more open standard of web VR?
Dialogue: 0,0:34:28.81,0:34:35.19,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,JO: We haven't yet worked with web VR. But\Nthat is something that we are about to
Dialogue: 0,0:34:35.19,0:34:40.97,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,start exploring in the New Year.\NHerald: We have a question from microphone
Dialogue: 0,0:34:40.97,0:34:44.10,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,number two.\NMicrophone number 2: Hi Judith, thank you for
Dialogue: 0,0:34:44.10,0:34:50.05,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,your talk again. I found it very\Ninteresting and inspiring that you've
Dialogue: 0,0:34:50.05,0:34:57.13,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,presented the second talk where VR was\Nconsidered like an interesting or an
Dialogue: 0,0:34:57.13,0:35:05.87,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,important tool to create new narratives\Nmaybe in a rather or historically rather
Dialogue: 0,0:35:05.87,0:35:12.79,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,oral based history culture or narration\Nculture and to use it for alternative
Dialogue: 0,0:35:12.79,0:35:19.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,narrations and create the new historian as\Nyou say it like the maybe the non colonial
Dialogue: 0,0:35:19.00,0:35:25.10,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,historian if you want. And so I also\Nwondered as I saw also in your
Dialogue: 0,0:35:25.10,0:35:29.18,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,presentation and this is also my\Nperspective as I have been working a lot
Dialogue: 0,0:35:29.18,0:35:33.36,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,with Goethe Institute and have once worked\Nin Kenya with Goethe Institute and I
Dialogue: 0,0:35:33.36,0:35:38.93,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,notice that like the sort of still the\NWestern platforms and of course the
Dialogue: 0,0:35:38.93,0:35:45.90,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,institutions with money are kind of the\Nonly places and spaces where these things
Dialogue: 0,0:35:45.90,0:35:52.39,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,especially the technological things can\Nhappen due to money reasons, are the only
Dialogue: 0,0:35:52.39,0:35:57.15,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,spaces that exist basically. For example\Nin Nairobi it was like this space that
Dialogue: 0,0:35:57.15,0:36:01.87,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,could be used by artists. There's some\Nother spaces in Nairobi but still it felt
Dialogue: 0,0:36:01.87,0:36:08.11,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,like this strong like power maybe even\Nmore infrastructural power that's there
Dialogue: 0,0:36:08.11,0:36:14.56,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and you've used the Google space and I saw\Nthe Facebook logo and certificate. So I
Dialogue: 0,0:36:14.56,0:36:18.41,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,wonder is this anything you feel doubts\Nabout? Or do you just think, ok we'll take
Dialogue: 0,0:36:18.41,0:36:25.38,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,their money and that's cool?\NJO: Great question, thank you. It's
Dialogue: 0,0:36:25.38,0:36:29.39,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,interesting that you ask because for me\Npersonally one of a kind of like the
Dialogue: 0,0:36:29.39,0:36:36.42,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,buggers for me is that a lot of the major\Ntech companies, in my opinion they don't
Dialogue: 0,0:36:36.42,0:36:42.49,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,see, they don't see African countries as a\Nreal VR market. And you know you can see
Dialogue: 0,0:36:42.49,0:36:45.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that just by the fact that their products\Naren't even accessible there. You know,
Dialogue: 0,0:36:45.99,0:36:55.70,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,they are not available. That said you know\NI think that I talked about collaboration
Dialogue: 0,0:36:55.70,0:37:01.49,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,a lot. I think that the way forward is for\Nus all to work together. They already have
Dialogue: 0,0:37:01.49,0:37:06.86,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,done you know a ton of work in terms of\Nwhat is possible with the technology and
Dialogue: 0,0:37:06.86,0:37:12.12,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,even what will be possible in the future.\NJust by virtue of their R&D budgets
Dialogue: 0,0:37:12.12,0:37:18.73,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and what's possible. So I very much want\Nas we grow that we are working with them
Dialogue: 0,0:37:18.73,0:37:26.65,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and not apart from them in any way. But\Nalongside that, I am very very concerned
Dialogue: 0,0:37:26.65,0:37:31.48,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,about as you know developing as ourselves\Nand creating as ourselves you know if it
Dialogue: 0,0:37:31.48,0:37:35.90,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,goes like truth and authenticity that\NSofia was talking about that we have our
Dialogue: 0,0:37:35.90,0:37:43.48,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,own voice and we can do it without being\Nobliged to any one party. In that vein for
Dialogue: 0,0:37:43.48,0:37:47.97,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,example the lab that we set up one of the\Nreasons was because we knew that access
Dialogue: 0,0:37:47.97,0:37:51.96,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,was difficult. We know that the equipment\Nis relatively expensive. Things like that,
Dialogue: 0,0:37:51.96,0:37:56.04,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,particularly given the purchasing power of\Nthe naira. So we wanted to create a space
Dialogue: 0,0:37:56.04,0:37:59.31,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,where, if you wanted to do VR, or you\Nwanted to create you could actually come
Dialogue: 0,0:37:59.31,0:38:02.53,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,in and use the equipment and we provide\Nthat and city and we'll be doing that in
Dialogue: 0,0:38:02.53,0:38:07.03,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,more states across Nigeria. But I think\Nits initiatives like that locally that
Dialogue: 0,0:38:07.03,0:38:11.80,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,will make sure that even as we partner we\Ncan be true to ourselves.
Dialogue: 0,0:38:11.80,0:38:16.04,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Herald: We have a question from microphone\Nnumber one.
Dialogue: 0,0:38:16.04,0:38:21.07,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Microphone number 1: Thank you for your\Ntalk. I'm sorry if you already covered
Dialogue: 0,0:38:21.07,0:38:28.16,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,this aspect. I came a bit late, but I want\Nto ask about if you are working towards
Dialogue: 0,0:38:28.16,0:38:33.74,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,minimizing the digital divide. How? What\Nare your effords about closing this. I
Dialogue: 0,0:38:33.74,0:38:37.90,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,understand that the project this is new,\Nbut your long term vision, how does that
Dialogue: 0,0:38:37.90,0:38:44.95,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,help to empower the rural population also?\NJO: Yeah. Thank you. That's a great
Dialogue: 0,0:38:44.95,0:38:49.53,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,question. Actually one of the things that\Ndrove the creation of the lab in 2016 was
Dialogue: 0,0:38:49.53,0:38:57.56,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,even recognition of that digital divide.\NBy that time I just spent about two years
Dialogue: 0,0:38:57.56,0:39:03.23,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,in Lagos working within the tech sector\Nand just being able to kind of like tap
Dialogue: 0,0:39:03.23,0:39:09.13,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,into the talent that was there and see\Nwhat was possible. And I'd seen what you
Dialogue: 0,0:39:09.13,0:39:13.97,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,know young people were able to do there\Nwith traditional technology, you know,
Dialogue: 0,0:39:13.97,0:39:18.49,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,with software development and all of that.\NSo I knew that in terms of you know a
Dialogue: 0,0:39:18.49,0:39:23.45,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,potential it was there in kind of like\Nlimitless way but the challenge is always
Dialogue: 0,0:39:23.45,0:39:27.46,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,of course access to to the resources to\Nopportunity and things like that and
Dialogue: 0,0:39:27.46,0:39:31.33,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that's what we try to do which is why that\Nelement of community is so important for
Dialogue: 0,0:39:31.33,0:39:39.10,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,us. We we provide access to equipment and\Nresources in the lab. We also hold those
Dialogue: 0,0:39:39.10,0:39:43.27,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,community gathering so that people can\Nstart to network with each other and
Dialogue: 0,0:39:43.27,0:39:50.35,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,collaborate together. We also look for\Nways to support learning and growth and we
Dialogue: 0,0:39:50.35,0:39:56.43,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,do that by either holding activities or\Nsometimes doing things like offering
Dialogue: 0,0:39:56.43,0:40:00.22,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,scholarships for audacities virtual\Nreality nano degree, but we're very very
Dialogue: 0,0:40:00.22,0:40:04.78,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,particular about you know talent and\Nexpertise being available kind of like
Dialogue: 0,0:40:04.78,0:40:08.76,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,locally and in country because that's\Ncritical. That's why I don't know if you
Dialogue: 0,0:40:08.76,0:40:13.47,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,were here when we were talking about Amber\NCassady 360 documentary. But for me what's
Dialogue: 0,0:40:13.47,0:40:18.91,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,really exciting is that you know a\NNigerian filmmaker will go acquire those
Dialogue: 0,0:40:18.91,0:40:22.83,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,skills and be able to be the one to make\Nthat in Nigeria because of course there
Dialogue: 0,0:40:22.83,0:40:27.71,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,have been other 360 documentaries made by\Nsay Al Jazeera for example you know and
Dialogue: 0,0:40:27.71,0:40:32.68,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,other media houses but of course they'll\Nbe bringing their teams in to do that. So
Dialogue: 0,0:40:32.68,0:40:36.32,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,yes very very conscious of trying to to\Nnarrow that.
Dialogue: 0,0:40:36.32,0:40:41.17,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Herald: We have two questions at\Nmicrophone Number one. Let's see. First one.
Dialogue: 0,0:40:41.17,0:40:43.40,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Microphone number 1: First of all thank
Dialogue: 0,0:40:43.40,0:40:49.41,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,you Judith for this great presentation.\NVery short question and specific question.
Dialogue: 0,0:40:49.41,0:40:56.03,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,When it comes to VR in education there is\None major problem in my eyes. I don't know
Dialogue: 0,0:40:56.03,0:41:03.16,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,if you can answer this questions, but\Nthere is no real business lobby for that
Dialogue: 0,0:41:03.16,0:41:10.15,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,right now. And when it comes to integrate\NVR content into educational program there
Dialogue: 0,0:41:10.15,0:41:15.96,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,is one major hurdle which is how to\Nintegrate that into the official program.
Dialogue: 0,0:41:15.96,0:41:21.69,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Which content can be transformed into VR\Ncontent? Are you working closely with
Dialogue: 0,0:41:21.69,0:41:32.12,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,regular let's say official education\Nauthorities? Is any board like trying to
Dialogue: 0,0:41:32.12,0:41:37.35,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,identify which content and how to\Nintegrate it progressively into your
Dialogue: 0,0:41:37.35,0:41:44.49,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,curriculums? Are you thinking about that?\NBecause there is some nice attempt like in
Dialogue: 0,0:41:44.49,0:41:52.12,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Egypt, in China to do that, but one of the\Nmajor hurdle is, it is really hard to
Dialogue: 0,0:41:52.12,0:41:57.58,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,integrate it one time into the official\Ncurriculums. So how do you identify the
Dialogue: 0,0:41:57.58,0:42:02.16,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,content and how it is working with the\Nofficials?
Dialogue: 0,0:42:02.16,0:42:07.21,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,JO: Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Really great\Nquestion. Yes. I mean all of the
Dialogue: 0,0:42:07.21,0:42:13.27,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,things that you've just mentioned very\Nvery real issues for us. When we wanted to
Dialogue: 0,0:42:13.27,0:42:17.23,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,start doing the VR for schools project the\Nfirst thing that we actually had to do was
Dialogue: 0,0:42:17.23,0:42:21.67,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,approach the education authorities in the\Nlocal area where we are the district
Dialogue: 0,0:42:21.67,0:42:25.45,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,office for education. So we had to bring\Nthem on board really quickly because we
Dialogue: 0,0:42:25.45,0:42:31.14,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,even need their permission to be able to\Ngo into a school and work. Beyond that we
Dialogue: 0,0:42:31.14,0:42:36.23,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,also decided to hold things like VR for\Neducation roundtables where we would bring
Dialogue: 0,0:42:36.23,0:42:40.96,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,together different stakeholders. So, these\Nwould be people from both the local
Dialogue: 0,0:42:40.96,0:42:46.70,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,governments from both secondary and\Ntertiary education. And looking at both
Dialogue: 0,0:42:46.70,0:42:51.23,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,students faculty and sometimes even\Nparents because we very much wanted people
Dialogue: 0,0:42:51.23,0:42:55.20,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to come together to help us cocreate what\Na viable solution would be. And a lot of
Dialogue: 0,0:42:55.20,0:42:59.30,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,what you mentioned I mean that's what the\Nteachers were saying. How exactly does
Dialogue: 0,0:42:59.30,0:43:03.37,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,this actually work? You know with the\Nlesson you know, do you in the middle of a
Dialogue: 0,0:43:03.37,0:43:10.28,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,lecture put on the headset. You know what\Nmakes sense. So, so far we've been doing
Dialogue: 0,0:43:10.28,0:43:14.16,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the VR sessions and special sessions that\Nare carved out from the school time where
Dialogue: 0,0:43:14.16,0:43:18.48,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,we go and see we're coming to do a session\Nwith you. Going into the New Year though
Dialogue: 0,0:43:18.48,0:43:22.70,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,where we're going to actually start a\Nformal pilot in a school. We're setting up
Dialogue: 0,0:43:22.70,0:43:27.57,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,a lab in the school and we're going to\Nhave somebody who's, you know there with
Dialogue: 0,0:43:27.57,0:43:32.07,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,them, so that we can start to work with\Nthe teachers to see how we can make VR
Dialogue: 0,0:43:32.07,0:43:38.73,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,learning an element of the traditional\Nkind of like classroom plan. So, I say to
Dialogue: 0,0:43:38.73,0:43:43.86,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,people imagine what it used to be like\Nwhen you would schedule a video as part of
Dialogue: 0,0:43:43.86,0:43:48.59,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,a lesson. What if instead of the\Nwhole class is going to watch a video.
Dialogue: 0,0:43:48.59,0:43:52.93,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Instead they were going to go and have a\NVR experience as the content and the
Dialogue: 0,0:43:52.93,0:43:57.18,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,challenge around that and what's\Nappropriate to create. And that's really
Dialogue: 0,0:43:57.18,0:44:02.34,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,interesting, something that we've been\Ntrying to tackle. When we first started to
Dialogue: 0,0:44:02.34,0:44:07.14,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,explore this. We were quite constrained in\Nterms of resources so we were just
Dialogue: 0,0:44:07.14,0:44:11.40,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,curating what was actually already\Navailable and matching it to the national
Dialogue: 0,0:44:11.40,0:44:16.96,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,curriculum for the junior secondary\Nschool. So, we have some content that we
Dialogue: 0,0:44:16.96,0:44:20.34,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,have seen can match to some of the\Nlearning outcomes that are there at the
Dialogue: 0,0:44:20.34,0:44:24.40,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,moment. But we know that we do have to\Ncreate custom content. We particularly
Dialogue: 0,0:44:24.40,0:44:29.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,have to create content that is much more\Naccessible for people locally both in
Dialogue: 0,0:44:29.00,0:44:35.21,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,terms of language and in terms of kind of\Nthe visuals that they are accessing there.
Dialogue: 0,0:44:35.21,0:44:39.09,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,We are working with a major education\Npublisher as well in Nigeria. And of course
Dialogue: 0,0:44:39.09,0:44:43.06,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,they have the expertise having created quite\Na few of the textbooks that are in schools
Dialogue: 0,0:44:43.06,0:44:48.07,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,currently to help us figure that out as\Nwell as collaborating with teachers in the
Dialogue: 0,0:44:48.07,0:44:51.82,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,pilot school.\NHerald: And please don't be shy if you
Dialogue: 0,0:44:51.82,0:44:54.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,have any questions please come up to the\Nmicrophones and share them with all of us.
Dialogue: 0,0:44:54.99,0:45:00.42,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,We have time enough for quite a few more\Nquestions. A question from mic number two!
Dialogue: 0,0:45:00.42,0:45:04.64,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Microphone number 2: Yes. Thank you Judith\Nfor taking on the journey. I have a
Dialogue: 0,0:45:04.64,0:45:09.60,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,different question but also missed the\Nfirst minutes of your talk. As I see your
Dialogue: 0,0:45:09.60,0:45:14.60,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,talk here also a contribution from the\NGlobal South enriching us hopefully with
Dialogue: 0,0:45:14.60,0:45:21.02,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,your cultural perspective and my question\Nis: Do you think that this technology
Dialogue: 0,0:45:21.02,0:45:27.87,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,could help us to bridge cultural\Nunderstanding. Does it support empathy to
Dialogue: 0,0:45:27.87,0:45:32.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,get more of a picture. Well the trouble\Nfrom a Western perspective is that you
Dialogue: 0,0:45:32.99,0:45:37.24,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,know the African countries exporting\Npoverty that's not a major good selling
Dialogue: 0,0:45:37.24,0:45:42.08,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,good. But there is other elements that\Nmight enrich or you might have to hack
Dialogue: 0,0:45:42.08,0:45:46.19,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,into our minds. My question is: Do you\Nthink this technology can actually help to
Dialogue: 0,0:45:46.19,0:45:51.90,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,support people understanding other\Ncultures better? Or is this for the moment
Dialogue: 0,0:45:51.90,0:46:01.42,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,more an experimental thing within your\Ncontrol as cultural context to do your own
Dialogue: 0,0:46:01.42,0:46:06.95,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,educational or other purposes?\NJO: Thank you for that question. Yes
Dialogue: 0,0:46:06.95,0:46:12.75,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,actually I do think that it will help us\Nstart to understand and experience other
Dialogue: 0,0:46:12.75,0:46:22.01,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,cultures better and even experience\Nempathy. And I say this because even just
Dialogue: 0,0:46:22.01,0:46:26.53,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,you know when we first started the lab in\N2016. So, a challenge for Nigerians you
Dialogue: 0,0:46:26.53,0:46:29.56,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,might not know but one major challenge\Nthat people have when they want to travel
Dialogue: 0,0:46:29.56,0:46:35.25,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,is getting visas. Yeah the stories you\Nhear about visa refusals can be quite
Dialogue: 0,0:46:35.25,0:46:40.91,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,heartbreaking. But people were put on\Ntheir VR headset and sit in a chair and if
Dialogue: 0,0:46:40.91,0:46:46.31,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,you know with Oculus you have this option\Nunder Oculus 360 photos of explore the
Dialogue: 0,0:46:46.31,0:46:51.35,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,world. So, you can go to basically any\Ncountry and people would do that. They
Dialogue: 0,0:46:51.35,0:46:55.34,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,choose a country and go. And one thing\Neverybody would say is you mean I can
Dialogue: 0,0:46:55.34,0:47:00.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,travel and I don't even need to get a\Nvisa. That's the first thing that really
Dialogue: 0,0:47:00.00,0:47:05.56,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,kind of like got people so curious and so\Nengaged and I think that cuts across
Dialogue: 0,0:47:05.56,0:47:11.76,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,regardless of who you are or where you're\Nfrom. Nigeria is not a known tourist
Dialogue: 0,0:47:11.76,0:47:16.34,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,destination right now but there is\Nactually quite a lot to see in the
Dialogue: 0,0:47:16.34,0:47:24.32,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,country. And most people don't realize [name of region]\Nthe south of the country has possibly the
Dialogue: 0,0:47:24.32,0:47:28.57,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,greatest diversity when it comes to\Nbutterflies in the world. So, some things
Dialogue: 0,0:47:28.57,0:47:35.45,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,like that are not known and are not explored \Nper se because it's not on the global map
Dialogue: 0,0:47:35.45,0:47:40.33,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,for tourism. But these are things that we\Ncan then start to experience via virtual
Dialogue: 0,0:47:40.33,0:47:43.96,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,reality and that's looking at an angle\Nlike tourism. I mean we can take it right
Dialogue: 0,0:47:43.96,0:47:50.83,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,down to the everyday to people's lives and\Nstories. Much like, I think we've seen in
Dialogue: 0,0:47:50.83,0:47:56.08,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,a sense with YouTube and what bloggers\Nhave been able to create. But in a much
Dialogue: 0,0:47:56.08,0:48:02.08,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,more personal way now with with VR 360\Nthat you can actually, say, step into my
Dialogue: 0,0:48:02.08,0:48:05.28,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,home, step into my life and I think we'll\Nstart to see more of those stories as we
Dialogue: 0,0:48:05.28,0:48:09.79,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,go on.\NHerald: We have about 15 minutes left and
Dialogue: 0,0:48:09.79,0:48:13.58,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,we have a question from mic number two.\NMicrophone number 2: All right. Thanks for
Dialogue: 0,0:48:13.58,0:48:19.33,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the talk. Maybe learning is not a\Nprivilege only to young people or did you
Dialogue: 0,0:48:19.33,0:48:25.17,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,consider teaching also older people or\Npeople from other areas? And also are you
Dialogue: 0,0:48:25.17,0:48:30.44,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,reachable outside Facebook? Do you have\Nsome webpage or something else?
Dialogue: 0,0:48:30.44,0:48:37.85,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,JO: Yes. So to address the last part\Nfirst: Yes absolutely outside Facebook.
Dialogue: 0,0:48:37.85,0:48:43.32,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So, if you do social media we are on\NTwitter as a Imisi 3D and Instagram as
Dialogue: 0,0:48:43.32,0:48:50.51,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Imisi 3D as well. We have a website\Nimisi3d.com and you can also e-mail us at
Dialogue: 0,0:48:50.51,0:48:57.04,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,hello@imisi3d.com. In terms of reaching\Npeople beyond young people: Yes, that is
Dialogue: 0,0:48:57.04,0:49:01.93,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that's very very important to us even as\Nwe reach things like say VR for schools
Dialogue: 0,0:49:01.93,0:49:05.94,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,targeting students. We know that that is\Nnot possible if adoption doesn't happen
Dialogue: 0,0:49:05.94,0:49:09.83,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,across the board. We need the older\Npeople, we need teachers, we need
Dialogue: 0,0:49:09.83,0:49:15.50,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,principals to take it on board as well and\Nwant to work with the technology. So, we
Dialogue: 0,0:49:15.50,0:49:20.77,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,embrace all. I mean the targeted project\Nmight look like it is very student and
Dialogue: 0,0:49:20.77,0:49:24.69,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,young people focused but we work across\Nthe board because we recognize
Dialogue: 0,0:49:24.69,0:49:29.51,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,stakeholders in all demographics.\NHerald: Two questions at mic number one
Dialogue: 0,0:49:29.51,0:49:32.90,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,let's start with the first one.\NMicrophone number 1: Thank you Judith for
Dialogue: 0,0:49:32.90,0:49:38.92,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the fantastic presentation. I was\Nwondering about, I've never heard I think
Dialogue: 0,0:49:38.92,0:49:46.29,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,VR and communal efforts and collective\Nworking together in such a beautiful way
Dialogue: 0,0:49:46.29,0:49:52.18,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,because in the global north I think VR is\Nin a lot of cases in the framework of
Dialogue: 0,0:49:52.18,0:49:57.78,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,hyper individualized even isolated non-\Nsocial as in such an activity. So, I think
Dialogue: 0,0:49:57.78,0:50:03.84,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,this was a brilliant new way of seeing\Nthat potential. I would be very interested
Dialogue: 0,0:50:03.84,0:50:10.31,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,in how you see that's kind of maybe a\Ndifference. Yeah and if you think a lot
Dialogue: 0,0:50:10.31,0:50:18.31,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,about this isolation part as well.\NJO: Yeah. So thank you. I mean I really
Dialogue: 0,0:50:18.31,0:50:23.41,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,believe that collaboration is the way\Nforward. I think particularly in a place
Dialogue: 0,0:50:23.41,0:50:29.55,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,like Nigeria, a place where you're already\Nresource challenged. I think if you saw
Dialogue: 0,0:50:29.55,0:50:33.85,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the divisions early then there are too\Nmany problems. And I think given the scope
Dialogue: 0,0:50:33.85,0:50:38.33,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,of these technologies we haven't even\Nbegun to approach the boundaries of where
Dialogue: 0,0:50:38.33,0:50:43.28,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,they will be, where there's so much left\Nto discover and explore that we must come
Dialogue: 0,0:50:43.28,0:50:48.98,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,together to challenge ourselves and work\Ntogether and push boundaries. And that is
Dialogue: 0,0:50:48.98,0:50:56.40,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,enough scope for everybody to get\Ninvolved. Yeah, I see the individualism
Dialogue: 0,0:50:56.40,0:51:02.71,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that you talk about in other parts. I mean\Nwhen I was first starting out one of the
Dialogue: 0,0:51:02.71,0:51:07.22,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,challenges for me was just even the\Nmultiple platforms that exist and the fact
Dialogue: 0,0:51:07.22,0:51:12.37,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that things are gonna be unified in one\Nway that we could all tap into. I hope it
Dialogue: 0,0:51:12.37,0:51:18.33,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,will change. But you know don't hold out\Ntoo much but I think where we can work and
Dialogue: 0,0:51:18.33,0:51:22.20,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,where we can actually impact stuff and\Neffect change the way that we believe it
Dialogue: 0,0:51:22.20,0:51:26.70,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,should be then we must.\NHerald: One more question from microphone
Dialogue: 0,0:51:26.70,0:51:28.89,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,number one.\NMicrophone number 1: Thank you also from
Dialogue: 0,0:51:28.89,0:51:36.13,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,my side for you talk. I do have a question\Nmore like personally. What was for you,
Dialogue: 0,0:51:36.13,0:51:42.50,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,since you started two years ago with this\Njourney on VR in Nigeria. What was
Dialogue: 0,0:51:42.50,0:51:47.66,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,for you the most surprising thing in this\Njourney.
Dialogue: 0,0:51:47.66,0:51:55.35,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,JO: The most surprising thing I have never\Nbeen asked that question so I'm pausing for a
Dialogue: 0,0:51:55.35,0:52:05.88,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,moment to think. Actually, so maybe not\Nsurprising in the traditional sense but
Dialogue: 0,0:52:05.88,0:52:14.73,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,like a couple of months after I started I\Nwas at an event where Y-Combinator had
Dialogue: 0,0:52:14.73,0:52:18.59,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,come to Nigeria. This was in September of\N2016. So it was a year where quite a few
Dialogue: 0,0:52:18.59,0:52:23.63,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,people were interested in what was going\Non in Lagos. So Y-Combinator had come to
Dialogue: 0,0:52:23.63,0:52:28.28,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Nigeria for the first time. And in one of\Nthe business schools they were having a
Dialogue: 0,0:52:28.28,0:52:32.15,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,talk, a session and I was in the audience\Nand I just happened to look down on the
Dialogue: 0,0:52:32.15,0:52:39.55,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,road below me. There were two young men\Nand they had a phone and they were
Dialogue: 0,0:52:39.55,0:52:50.06,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,actually watching like a 360 video on it.\NAnd stereoscopic the screen was split and I was amazed. I
Dialogue: 0,0:52:50.06,0:52:54.77,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,talked to them and I said "What are you\Ndoing?" And they're like "Oh, we're
Dialogue: 0,0:52:54.77,0:52:58.72,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,watching this." I'm like: "Do you have a\Nheadset?" "No" "Have you ever put it in a
Dialogue: 0,0:52:58.72,0:53:04.15,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,headset?" No, they hadn't. So luckily at\Nthat event I had a stand and the
Dialogue: 0,0:53:04.15,0:53:07.84,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,exhibition space and I said well during\Nthe break come down and we'll put it in a
Dialogue: 0,0:53:07.84,0:53:12.69,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,headset for you so you can actually see it\Nthe way it was intended. And so during the
Dialogue: 0,0:53:12.69,0:53:16.87,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,break they came. They did that, they were\Ncompletely "wow". They after that went on
Dialogue: 0,0:53:16.87,0:53:22.66,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and bought a VR headset. But for me why\Nthat stands out is because we started the
Dialogue: 0,0:53:22.66,0:53:27.75,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,lab because we felt like we must do this.\NThis is time with these technologies if we
Dialogue: 0,0:53:27.75,0:53:31.70,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,want to be part of the story we get\Ninvolved now. And I think that was a
Dialogue: 0,0:53:31.70,0:53:37.34,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,beautiful example of the reality of that.\NHerald: And please don't hesitate. If
Dialogue: 0,0:53:37.34,0:53:40.54,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,you're sitting in your chair thinking I\Nhave something to ask but I'm not quite
Dialogue: 0,0:53:40.54,0:53:44.11,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,sure if there'll be time, there is time\Nfor another few questions. So, please get
Dialogue: 0,0:53:44.11,0:53:47.42,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,up behind the microphones if there is\Nsomething you want to know. We have
Dialogue: 0,0:53:47.42,0:53:49.63,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,another question from microphone number\Ntwo.
Dialogue: 0,0:53:49.63,0:53:56.26,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Microphone number 2: Thanks for the day.\NYou mentioned during one of the answers
Dialogue: 0,0:53:56.26,0:54:03.63,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that one of the key indicator you crossed\Nwere the schools basically is the ratio of
Dialogue: 0,0:54:03.63,0:54:10.38,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the student pretty true or better. And\Nthen I'm wondering if let's say imagine
Dialogue: 0,0:54:10.38,0:54:15.33,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,managing a school and I'm considering your\Nas a solution, I have to consider my cost
Dialogue: 0,0:54:15.33,0:54:21.69,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to go through what I get out of those\Nsolution. So, which indicator is
Dialogue: 0,0:54:21.69,0:54:31.50,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,traditionally used in education system.\NWhich would VR in the classroom improve the
Dialogue: 0,0:54:31.50,0:54:38.60,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,most?\NJO: Thank you. So for the VR for schools
Dialogue: 0,0:54:38.60,0:54:42.44,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,part that I've talked about where we're\Nactually targeting public schools. The
Dialogue: 0,0:54:42.44,0:54:48.21,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,real target that we want to address with\Nthat is learning outcomes. We want to
Dialogue: 0,0:54:48.21,0:54:52.76,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,significantly improve learning outcomes\Nwith virtual reality. And do this in a way
Dialogue: 0,0:54:52.76,0:55:00.20,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,where what children are not learning about\Ncomputers from a book of just from hearing
Dialogue: 0,0:55:00.20,0:55:04.19,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the teacher talk about it but they can\Nactually see one in that sort of thing. If
Dialogue: 0,0:55:04.19,0:55:08.30,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,you want operate it where they are\Nlearning about different experiments not
Dialogue: 0,0:55:08.30,0:55:13.68,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,just by hearing it spoken about but by\Nactually being able to do it in a sense in
Dialogue: 0,0:55:13.68,0:55:17.59,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that virtual space. So, it's really\Nlearning outcomes that is the key
Dialogue: 0,0:55:17.59,0:55:24.64,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,indicator for us when it comes to the\Nreturns that we hope to see. But I think
Dialogue: 0,0:55:24.64,0:55:32.75,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that we will see depending on kind of like\Nwhat school sector we're looking at that
Dialogue: 0,0:55:32.75,0:55:38.98,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,change a little bit. So in the public\Nschools I think that it'll be easy to go
Dialogue: 0,0:55:38.98,0:55:44.72,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,in there and work targeting just learning\Noutcomes. When we go to the private
Dialogue: 0,0:55:44.72,0:55:49.23,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,schools with a lot more resources than\Nit'll be more new ones there because
Dialogue: 0,0:55:49.23,0:55:55.03,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,there'll be scope to do more things. For\Nexample we will have schools where they
Dialogue: 0,0:55:55.03,0:56:00.75,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,can afford to set up labs to actually\Ncreate virtual reality. And for them some
Dialogue: 0,0:56:00.75,0:56:04.67,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,of the indicators that they might be\Nlooking at are technical expertise in
Dialogue: 0,0:56:04.67,0:56:10.86,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,these students that sort of thing. Herald:\NAnd if we don't have any more questions I
Dialogue: 0,0:56:10.86,0:56:13.60,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,think we should all thank Judith for an\Nexcellent talk!
Dialogue: 0,0:56:13.60,0:56:17.58,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,JO: Thank you! \N{\i1}applause{\i0}
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