0:00:00.000,0:00:03.000 My name is Dan Cohen, and I am academic, as he said. 0:00:03.000,0:00:07.000 And what that means is that I argue. 0:00:07.000,0:00:09.000 It's an important part of my life, and I like to argue. 0:00:09.000,0:00:13.000 And I'm not just an academic, I'm a philosopher, 0:00:13.000,0:00:16.000 so I like to think that I'm actually pretty good at arguing. 0:00:16.000,0:00:19.000 But I also like to think a lot about arguing. 0:00:19.000,0:00:23.000 And thinking about arguing, I've come across some puzzles, 0:00:23.000,0:00:25.000 and one of the puzzles is that 0:00:25.000,0:00:27.000 as I've been thinking about arguing over the years, 0:00:27.000,0:00:30.000 and it's been decades now, I've gotten better at arguing, 0:00:30.000,0:00:34.000 but the more that I argue and the better that I get at arguing, 0:00:34.000,0:00:37.000 the more that I lose. And that's a puzzle. 0:00:37.000,0:00:41.000 And the other puzzle is that I'm actually okay with that. 0:00:41.000,0:00:43.000 Why is it that I'm okay with losing 0:00:43.000,0:00:45.000 and why is it that I think that good arguers 0:00:45.000,0:00:47.000 are actually better at losing? 0:00:47.000,0:00:49.000 Well, there's some other puzzles. 0:00:49.000,0:00:52.000 One is, why do we argue? Who benefits from arguments? 0:00:52.000,0:00:54.000 And when I think about arguments now, I'm talking about, 0:00:54.000,0:00:57.000 let's call them academic arguments or cognitive arguments 0:00:57.000,0:00:59.000 where something cognitive is at stake. 0:00:59.000,0:01:02.000 Is this proposition true? Is this theory a good theory? 0:01:02.000,0:01:06.000 Is this a viable interpretation of the data or the text? 0:01:06.000,0:01:08.000 And so on. I'm not interested really in arguments about 0:01:08.000,0:01:12.000 whose turn it is to to do the dishes or who has to take out the garbage. 0:01:12.000,0:01:14.000 Yeah, we have those arguments too. 0:01:14.000,0:01:17.000 I tend to win those arguments, because I know the tricks. 0:01:17.000,0:01:19.000 But those aren't the important arguments. 0:01:19.000,0:01:21.000 I'm interested in academic arguments today, 0:01:21.000,0:01:23.000 and here are the things that puzzle me. 0:01:23.000,0:01:27.000 First, what do good arguers win when they win an argument? 0:01:27.000,0:01:30.000 What do I win if I convince you that 0:01:30.000,0:01:33.000 utilitarianism isn't really the right framework for thinking about ethical theories. 0:01:33.000,0:01:35.000 So what do we win when we win an argument? 0:01:35.000,0:01:38.000 Even before that, what does it matter to me 0:01:38.000,0:01:41.000 whether we have this idea that Kant's theory works 0:01:41.000,0:01:44.000 or Mill's the right ethicist to follow? 0:01:44.000,0:01:47.000 It's no skin off my back whether you think 0:01:47.000,0:01:50.000 functionalism is a viable theory of mind. 0:01:50.000,0:01:52.000 So why do we even try to argue? 0:01:52.000,0:01:54.000 Why do we convince other people 0:01:54.000,0:01:56.000 to believe things that they don't want to believe? 0:01:56.000,0:01:59.000 And is that even a nice thing to do? Is that a nice way 0:01:59.000,0:02:01.000 to treat another human being, try and make them 0:02:01.000,0:02:03.000 think something they don't want to think? 0:02:03.000,0:02:06.000 Well, my answer is going to make reference to 0:02:06.000,0:02:08.000 three models for arguments. 0:02:08.000,0:02:10.000 The first model, let's call this the dialectical model, 0:02:10.000,0:02:12.000 is that we think of articles as war, and you know what that's like. 0:02:12.000,0:02:14.000 There's a lot of screaming and shouting 0:02:14.000,0:02:16.000 and winning and losing, 0:02:16.000,0:02:19.000 and that's not really a very helpful model for arguing 0:02:19.000,0:02:21.000 but it's a pretty common and entrenched model for arguing. 0:02:21.000,0:02:24.000 But there's a second model for arguing: arguments as proofs. 0:02:24.000,0:02:26.000 Think of a mathematician's argument. 0:02:26.000,0:02:29.000 Here's my argument. Does it work? Is it any good? 0:02:29.000,0:02:33.000 Are the premises warranted? Are the inferences valid? 0:02:33.000,0:02:36.000 Does the conclusion follow from the premises? 0:02:36.000,0:02:39.000 No opposition, no adversariality, 0:02:39.000,0:02:44.000 not necessarily any arguing in the adversarial sense. 0:02:44.000,0:02:47.000 But there's a third model to keep in mind 0:02:47.000,0:02:49.000 that I think is going to be very helpful, 0:02:49.000,0:02:51.000 and that is arguments as performances, 0:02:51.000,0:02:54.000 arguments in front of an audience. 0:02:54.000,0:02:56.000 We can think of a politician trying to present a position, 0:02:56.000,0:02:59.000 trying to a convince the audience of something. 0:02:59.000,0:03:02.000 But there's another twist on this model that I really think is important, 0:03:02.000,0:03:06.000 namely that when we argue before and audience, 0:03:06.000,0:03:10.000 sometimes the audience has a more participatory role in the argument, 0:03:10.000,0:03:14.000 that is, arguments are also audiences in front of juries 0:03:14.000,0:03:17.000 who make a judgment and decide the case. 0:03:17.000,0:03:20.000 Let's call this the rhetorical model, 0:03:20.000,0:03:23.000 where you have to tailor your argument to the audience at hand. 0:03:23.000,0:03:26.000 You know, presenting a sound, well-argued, 0:03:26.000,0:03:29.000 tight argument in English before a Francophone audience 0:03:29.000,0:03:31.000 just isn't going to work. 0:03:31.000,0:03:34.000 So we have this models -- argument-as-war, 0:03:34.000,0:03:37.000 argument-as-proof, and argument-as-performance. 0:03:37.000,0:03:42.000 Of those three, the argument as war is the dominant one. 0:03:42.000,0:03:45.000 It dominates how we talk about arguments, 0:03:45.000,0:03:47.000 it dominates how we think about arguments, 0:03:47.000,0:03:50.000 and because of that, it shapes how we argue, 0:03:50.000,0:03:52.000 our actual conduct in arguments. 0:03:52.000,0:03:54.000 Now, when we talk about arguments, 0:03:54.000,0:03:56.000 yeah, we talk in a very militaristic language. 0:03:56.000,0:03:58.000 We want strong arguments, arguments that have a lot of punch, 0:03:58.000,0:04:00.000 arguments that are right on target. 0:04:00.000,0:04:03.000 We want to have our defenses up and our strategies all in order. 0:04:03.000,0:04:06.000 We want killer arguments. 0:04:06.000,0:04:09.000 That's the kind of argument we want. 0:04:09.000,0:04:11.000 It is the dominant way of thinking about arguments. 0:04:11.000,0:04:13.000 When I'm talking about arguments, that's probably 0:04:13.000,0:04:16.000 what you thought of, the adversarial model. 0:04:16.000,0:04:19.000 But the war metaphor, the war paradigm 0:04:19.000,0:04:21.000 or model for thinking about arguments, 0:04:21.000,0:04:24.000 has, I think, deforming effects on how we argue. 0:04:24.000,0:04:28.000 First it elevates tactics over substance. 0:04:28.000,0:04:30.000 Right. You can take classes in logic, argumentation. 0:04:30.000,0:04:33.000 You learn all about the subterfuges that people use 0:04:33.000,0:04:35.000 to try and win arguments, the false steps. 0:04:35.000,0:04:38.000 It magnifies the us-versus-them aspect of it. 0:04:38.000,0:04:42.000 It makes it adversarial. It's polarizing. 0:04:42.000,0:04:45.000 And the only foreseeable outcomes 0:04:45.000,0:04:51.000 is triumph, glorious triumph, or abject, ignominious defeat. 0:04:51.000,0:04:54.000 I think those are deforming effects, and worst of all, 0:04:54.000,0:04:56.000 it seems to prevent things like negotiation 0:04:56.000,0:04:59.000 or deliberation or compromise 0:04:59.000,0:05:02.000 or collaboration. 0:05:02.000,0:05:04.000 Think about that one. Have you ever entered an argument 0:05:04.000,0:05:07.000 thinking, "Let's see if we can hash something out 0:05:07.000,0:05:10.000 rather than fight it out. What can we work out together?" 0:05:10.000,0:05:12.000 And I think the argument-as-war metaphor 0:05:12.000,0:05:16.000 inhibits those other kinds of resolutions to argumentation. 0:05:16.000,0:05:19.000 And finally, this is really the worst thing, 0:05:19.000,0:05:21.000 arguments don't seem to get us anywhere. 0:05:21.000,0:05:24.000 They're dead ends. They are, what, roundabouts 0:05:24.000,0:05:27.000 or traffic jams or gridlock in conversation. 0:05:27.000,0:05:30.000 We don't get anywhere. 0:05:30.000,0:05:32.000 Oh, and one more thing, and as an educator, 0:05:32.000,0:05:34.000 this is the one that really bothers me: 0:05:34.000,0:05:37.000 if argument is war, then there's an implicit equation 0:05:37.000,0:05:41.000 of learning with losing. 0:05:41.000,0:05:43.000 And let me explain what I mean. 0:05:43.000,0:05:46.000 Suppose you and I have an argument. 0:05:46.000,0:05:50.000 You believe a proposition, P, and I don't. 0:05:50.000,0:05:52.000 And I say, "Well why do you believe P?" 0:05:52.000,0:05:54.000 And you give me your reasons. 0:05:54.000,0:05:56.000 And I object and say, "Well, what about...?" 0:05:56.000,0:05:58.000 And you answer my objection. 0:05:58.000,0:06:00.000 And I have a question: "Well, what do you mean? 0:06:00.000,0:06:03.000 How does it apply over here?" And you answer my question. 0:06:03.000,0:06:05.000 Now, suppose at the end of the day, 0:06:05.000,0:06:07.000 I've objected, I've questioned, 0:06:07.000,0:06:09.000 I've raised all sorts of counter-considerations, 0:06:09.000,0:06:13.000 and in every case you've responded to my satisfaction. 0:06:13.000,0:06:16.000 And so at the end of the day, I say, 0:06:16.000,0:06:20.000 "You know what? I guess you're right. P." 0:06:20.000,0:06:23.000 So I have a new belief. And it's not just any belief, 0:06:23.000,0:06:28.000 but it's a well-articulated, examined, 0:06:28.000,0:06:30.000 it's a battle-tested belief. 0:06:30.000,0:06:35.000 Great cognitive game. Okay. Who won that argument? 0:06:35.000,0:06:38.000 Well, the war metaphor seems to force us into saying 0:06:38.000,0:06:41.000 you won even though I'm the only one who made any cognitive gain. 0:06:41.000,0:06:45.000 What did you gain cognitively from convincing me? 0:06:45.000,0:06:48.000 Sure, you got some pleasure out of it, maybe your ego stroked, 0:06:48.000,0:06:51.000 maybe you get some professional status in the field. 0:06:51.000,0:06:53.000 This guy's a good arguer. 0:06:53.000,0:06:57.000 But cognitively, now, who was the winner? 0:06:57.000,0:06:59.000 The war metaphor forces us into thinking 0:06:59.000,0:07:02.000 that you're the winner and I lost, 0:07:02.000,0:07:04.000 even though I gained. 0:07:04.000,0:07:07.000 And there's something wrong with that picture. 0:07:07.000,0:07:09.000 And that's the picture I really want to change if I can. 0:07:09.000,0:07:13.000 So how can we find ways to make arguments 0:07:13.000,0:07:16.000 yield something positive? 0:07:16.000,0:07:21.000 What we need is new exit strategies for arguments. 0:07:21.000,0:07:23.000 But we're not going to have new exit strategies for arguments 0:07:23.000,0:07:27.000 until we have new entry approaches to arguments. 0:07:27.000,0:07:30.000 We need to think of new kinds of arguments. 0:07:30.000,0:07:33.000 In order to do that, well, 0:07:33.000,0:07:36.000 I don't know how to do that. 0:07:36.000,0:07:38.000 That's the bad news. 0:07:38.000,0:07:40.000 The argument-as-war metaphor is just, it's a monster. 0:07:40.000,0:07:42.000 It's just taken up habitation in our mind, 0:07:42.000,0:07:44.000 and there's no magic bullet that's going to kill it, 0:07:44.000,0:07:47.000 there's no magic wand that's going to make it disappear. 0:07:47.000,0:07:49.000 I don't have an answer. 0:07:49.000,0:07:51.000 But I have some suggestions, 0:07:51.000,0:07:53.000 and here's my suggestion. 0:07:53.000,0:07:55.000 If we want to think of new kinds of arguments, 0:07:55.000,0:07:59.000 what we need to do is think of new kinds of arguers. 0:07:59.000,0:08:01.000 So try this. 0:08:01.000,0:08:06.000 Think of all the roles that people play in arguments. 0:08:06.000,0:08:10.000 There's the proponent and the opponent, 0:08:10.000,0:08:12.000 in an adversarial, dialectical argument. 0:08:12.000,0:08:14.000 There's the audience in rhetorical arguments. 0:08:14.000,0:08:17.000 There's the reasoner in argument-as-proofs. 0:08:17.000,0:08:20.000 All these different roles. Now, can you imagine an argument 0:08:20.000,0:08:25.000 in which you are the arguer but you're also in the audience 0:08:25.000,0:08:27.000 watching yourself argue? 0:08:27.000,0:08:30.000 Can you imagine yourself watching yourself argue, 0:08:30.000,0:08:34.000 losing the argument, and yet still, at the end of the argument, 0:08:34.000,0:08:39.000 say, "Wow, that was a good argument." 0:08:39.000,0:08:41.000 Can you do that? I think you can. 0:08:41.000,0:08:44.000 And I think, if you can imagine that kind of argument 0:08:44.000,0:08:45.000 where the loser says to the winner 0:08:45.000,0:08:48.000 and the audience and the jury can say, 0:08:48.000,0:08:50.000 "Yeah, that was a good argument," 0:08:50.000,0:08:51.000 then you have imagined a good argument. 0:08:51.000,0:08:54.000 And more than that, I think you've imagined 0:08:54.000,0:08:56.000 a good arguer, an arguer that's worthy 0:08:56.000,0:08:59.000 of the kind of arguer you should try to be. 0:08:59.000,0:09:02.000 Now, I lose a lot of arguments. 0:09:02.000,0:09:04.000 It takes practice to become a good arguer 0:09:04.000,0:09:06.000 in the sense of being able to benefit from losing, 0:09:06.000,0:09:09.000 but, you know, fortunately, I've had many, many colleagues 0:09:09.000,0:09:12.000 who have been willing to step up and provide that practice for me. 0:09:12.000,0:09:14.000 Thank you. 0:09:14.000,0:09:17.000 (Applause)