WEBVTT 00:00:09.487 --> 00:00:10.324 Hi. 00:00:10.324 --> 00:00:12.874 I have no idea what Milton just said, so - 00:00:12.874 --> 00:00:13.894 (Laughter) 00:00:13.894 --> 00:00:16.194 If it was bad, you will tell me, won't you? 00:00:16.194 --> 00:00:19.024 (Laughter) 00:00:21.022 --> 00:00:24.552 We human beings can be quite clever when we try, 00:00:24.702 --> 00:00:28.752 and over the centuries we've managed to solve 00:00:28.752 --> 00:00:31.982 many of the great mysteries of the world, of life. 00:00:33.312 --> 00:00:37.312 We know now that the sky is not really held up with four tent poles 00:00:37.829 --> 00:00:40.589 and that stars are not really tiny little things. 00:00:40.589 --> 00:00:42.791 They're just a very long way away. 00:00:44.139 --> 00:00:48.909 We even know that teenagers are not really possessed by demons. 00:00:48.909 --> 00:00:50.399 (Laughter) 00:00:50.399 --> 00:00:52.539 They're just clinically insane. 00:00:52.539 --> 00:00:54.719 (Laughter) 00:00:55.071 --> 00:00:57.458 But there are still some mysteries left. 00:00:57.966 --> 00:01:01.121 There's the origin of the universe. 00:01:01.378 --> 00:01:03.218 That's quite a big one. 00:01:04.728 --> 00:01:08.558 And there's a lot of mysteries about how a tiny little egg cell 00:01:09.573 --> 00:01:11.023 can grow and develop 00:01:11.023 --> 00:01:17.573 into something as complex and wonderful and tremendously attractive as you. 00:01:20.501 --> 00:01:25.551 And there's the mystery of consciousness, the great secret of consciousness. 00:01:25.740 --> 00:01:29.490 How come there's a me inside my head looking out? 00:01:31.724 --> 00:01:34.354 I'd love to talk to you about all three of those things, 00:01:34.354 --> 00:01:37.284 but I only have thirteen minutes, 00:01:37.284 --> 00:01:40.694 so I'm just going to solve the secret of consciousness. 00:01:43.650 --> 00:01:45.578 I don't want to leave you in suspense, 00:01:45.578 --> 00:01:49.210 because frankly, when you hear the answer, 00:01:49.210 --> 00:01:51.710 you're just going to be bitterly disappointed anyway. 00:01:51.710 --> 00:01:54.100 So I'll tell you the secret straightaway, 00:01:54.385 --> 00:01:57.345 and then I'll try to make you feel better about it. 00:01:58.471 --> 00:02:00.851 So, okay, here we go. Are you ready? 00:02:02.122 --> 00:02:06.202 The great secret of consciousness is ... 00:02:08.815 --> 00:02:10.894 No, actually, I'll tell you a story first. 00:02:10.894 --> 00:02:13.004 (Laughter) 00:02:14.070 --> 00:02:18.070 When my son Christopher was a little boy, about that big, 00:02:18.070 --> 00:02:19.560 one of his teachers asked him 00:02:19.560 --> 00:02:23.820 what he wanted to be, what he wanted to do when he grew up. 00:02:23.980 --> 00:02:26.710 And Christopher very confidently answered, 00:02:27.040 --> 00:02:29.700 "I want to study how one thing affects another." 00:02:31.914 --> 00:02:34.434 And as career plans go, 00:02:34.434 --> 00:02:38.154 I think his teacher felt that was a little bit vague, 00:02:38.816 --> 00:02:41.016 but I was really proud of him. 00:02:41.953 --> 00:02:45.393 For a start, you can never be unemployed with a skill like that, can you? 00:02:45.393 --> 00:02:46.533 (Laughter) 00:02:46.533 --> 00:02:48.496 You want to solve the problems of cancer, 00:02:48.496 --> 00:02:51.693 you want to find out why wars get started, 00:02:51.693 --> 00:02:53.673 you want to design better spacecraft, 00:02:53.673 --> 00:02:58.143 who better to ask than somebody who knows how one thing leads to another? 00:03:00.584 --> 00:03:01.954 But he was right. 00:03:01.954 --> 00:03:04.414 You can study how one thing affects another. 00:03:05.054 --> 00:03:07.073 It's called cybernetics, in fact. 00:03:09.271 --> 00:03:12.991 Because there's not that many ways in which one thing can affect another. 00:03:13.311 --> 00:03:15.081 And if you're quite good at patterns, 00:03:15.081 --> 00:03:18.291 you start to see that the same kinds of dynamics 00:03:18.699 --> 00:03:21.209 occur in many, many levels of scale. 00:03:22.941 --> 00:03:26.521 Chris was kind of simplifying - because it was a teacher, you know - 00:03:26.891 --> 00:03:31.561 and what he really meant was not how one thing affects another, 00:03:32.333 --> 00:03:37.443 but how one thing affects another that affects the first thing again. 00:03:37.953 --> 00:03:41.723 So something called circular causality or feedback, 00:03:42.241 --> 00:03:45.211 and cybernetics is the study of feedback. 00:03:45.984 --> 00:03:47.481 This is really important 00:03:47.481 --> 00:03:52.221 because basically everything you see around you 00:03:53.208 --> 00:03:54.948 exists because of feedback. 00:03:55.740 --> 00:03:59.270 The atoms in the seat in front of you, 00:03:59.713 --> 00:04:03.893 the mind and the body of the person sitting in that seat, 00:04:04.246 --> 00:04:09.986 the words I'm using, Portugal, even TED. 00:04:10.143 --> 00:04:12.823 All of these things exist because of feedback, 00:04:13.379 --> 00:04:17.899 because they are self-reinforcing or self-regulating in some way. 00:04:18.696 --> 00:04:20.916 Because if they weren't, they'd just disappear. 00:04:21.924 --> 00:04:25.544 So everything is feedback and feedback is everything. 00:04:26.393 --> 00:04:31.243 Anyway, where was I? Consciousness. Alright. This time. 00:04:31.243 --> 00:04:32.923 (Laughter) 00:04:32.923 --> 00:04:36.945 The great secret of consciousness is ... 00:04:39.275 --> 00:04:40.575 By the way, 00:04:40.575 --> 00:04:42.395 (Laughter) 00:04:42.395 --> 00:04:44.965 have you ever spent much time thinking about the fact 00:04:44.965 --> 00:04:49.905 that you are actually a colony of single-celled creatures? 00:04:50.870 --> 00:04:53.860 It's kind of freaky, but it's also quite wonderful. 00:04:54.621 --> 00:04:55.681 You are. 00:04:57.226 --> 00:05:02.275 You are a society of 100 trillion little creatures, 00:05:02.704 --> 00:05:07.524 and 90% of them are bacteria, which is kind of embarrassing, 00:05:07.524 --> 00:05:12.834 but you can't live without them, so collectively they're you. 00:05:14.107 --> 00:05:16.777 And even the ones that have human genes, 00:05:18.595 --> 00:05:21.195 they're really just little single-celled animals, 00:05:21.657 --> 00:05:24.127 and they reproduce asexually; 00:05:24.127 --> 00:05:27.447 they divide into two, then four, then eight and sixteen. 00:05:27.954 --> 00:05:31.674 And almost the only thing that's special about them 00:05:31.674 --> 00:05:34.644 is the fact that they're covered in glue, 00:05:34.890 --> 00:05:38.530 so they kind of end up stuck together in a lump 00:05:39.082 --> 00:05:42.652 instead of swimming off and living happy independent lives. 00:05:43.657 --> 00:05:47.407 So basically you are a lump of sticky little creatures. 00:05:49.903 --> 00:05:51.929 The reason I tell you this partly is 00:05:51.929 --> 00:05:55.293 that it kind of explains what I do for a living. 00:05:56.090 --> 00:05:58.974 I work in a field called artificial life, 00:06:00.485 --> 00:06:05.495 which basically means using technology to explore biology. 00:06:06.300 --> 00:06:09.780 And so I spend my days making artificial creatures. 00:06:10.493 --> 00:06:12.163 Sometimes robots. 00:06:12.163 --> 00:06:18.423 In fact I have a full-sized female, mini-skirted robot sitting in my bedroom, 00:06:18.423 --> 00:06:19.513 (Laughter) 00:06:19.513 --> 00:06:22.263 which causes a big shock to anyone who comes in 00:06:22.263 --> 00:06:24.493 to do something in my apartment. 00:06:27.367 --> 00:06:31.257 But mostly, I make virtual creatures that live inside a computer. 00:06:33.995 --> 00:06:39.555 The only thing worth knowing about this is that they are also communities. 00:06:39.555 --> 00:06:43.665 So I don't try to program computers to behave like animals; 00:06:43.865 --> 00:06:47.325 I try to program computers to behave like brain cells 00:06:47.445 --> 00:06:49.425 and kidney cells and liver cells, 00:06:49.425 --> 00:06:53.035 and then I try to find ways to plug them together into systems, 00:06:53.637 --> 00:06:55.094 into communities, 00:06:56.853 --> 00:07:02.076 that collectively have thoughts and feelings and hopes and dreams. 00:07:04.382 --> 00:07:08.082 And many, many years ago, about 20,000 years ago, 00:07:08.082 --> 00:07:13.456 I took some of my little creatures and put them into a computer game 00:07:13.918 --> 00:07:15.471 and let people play with them, 00:07:15.471 --> 00:07:17.488 and the results were wonderful. 00:07:19.020 --> 00:07:23.370 At least a million people started looking after my little creatures, 00:07:23.370 --> 00:07:25.830 and they did great things. 00:07:27.108 --> 00:07:29.751 They would set up adoption agencies, 00:07:30.384 --> 00:07:31.698 write lots of stories, 00:07:31.698 --> 00:07:33.870 do scientific experiments on them, 00:07:34.326 --> 00:07:36.092 study their genetics. 00:07:40.968 --> 00:07:42.888 Actually quite a lot of them went on, 00:07:42.888 --> 00:07:44.488 when they grew up, 00:07:44.488 --> 00:07:46.628 they went on to become scientists and stuff, 00:07:46.628 --> 00:07:48.844 because of the experiments they had been doing 00:07:48.844 --> 00:07:51.088 on my little artificial life forms. 00:07:51.399 --> 00:07:55.399 But the most important thing was that they asked a lot of questions, 00:07:55.399 --> 00:07:59.749 deep questions about what is life, what is the mind, what is consciousness. 00:07:59.749 --> 00:08:03.449 And I just loved that; it made my whole life worth living. 00:08:05.255 --> 00:08:07.285 Because these questions really matter. 00:08:09.043 --> 00:08:12.137 How do we know, how can we make good judgements 00:08:12.504 --> 00:08:19.484 about ethical questions like abortion or animal cruelty 00:08:19.946 --> 00:08:22.176 if we don't know what consciousness is? 00:08:23.183 --> 00:08:27.093 You can't be cruel to something unless it knows you're being cruel to it. 00:08:27.093 --> 00:08:29.303 But how do we know whether it knows? 00:08:31.278 --> 00:08:33.066 I live in America, 00:08:33.845 --> 00:08:39.438 and over there, abortion is a huge political subject. 00:08:40.138 --> 00:08:44.658 It sometimes seems to me like half the population believe this, 00:08:44.937 --> 00:08:47.607 and the other half of the population believe that. 00:08:49.089 --> 00:08:53.469 They can't both be right. They could of course both be wrong. 00:08:55.456 --> 00:08:58.736 Are they sitting down around a really long table, 00:08:58.975 --> 00:09:03.285 having discussions and trying to work out what the right answer is about abortion? 00:09:03.491 --> 00:09:06.641 Well no, of course not. It's America. They just shoot each other. 00:09:06.641 --> 00:09:09.002 (Laughter) 00:09:10.424 --> 00:09:11.604 So it's a mess. 00:09:11.604 --> 00:09:13.464 We don't know what we're talking about, 00:09:13.874 --> 00:09:18.544 and part of the reason is, I think, that we're stuck. 00:09:19.364 --> 00:09:21.934 We're stuck, we can't move forward with these problems, 00:09:21.934 --> 00:09:26.474 because we don't know what the secret of consciousness is. 00:09:28.979 --> 00:09:34.029 I guess that's me there. Third time lucky, I'll tell you. 00:09:34.029 --> 00:09:37.279 This time, I'll tell you, and you're not going to like it. 00:09:37.869 --> 00:09:42.779 Alright, so the great secret of consciousness is ... 00:09:45.099 --> 00:09:47.509 that there is no secret of consciousness. 00:09:47.509 --> 00:09:49.099 (Laughter) 00:09:49.981 --> 00:09:52.304 I'll tell you the bad news first, 00:09:52.304 --> 00:09:55.602 and then I'll try to convince you that it's actually good news. 00:09:58.196 --> 00:09:59.513 The thing is - 00:10:01.361 --> 00:10:04.496 Over the last few years, I've been building some new creatures, 00:10:04.673 --> 00:10:08.263 and I really think that now, 00:10:08.263 --> 00:10:12.653 I am starting to get a glimmer of consciousness out of these creatures. 00:10:13.615 --> 00:10:17.289 And for me that's great. 00:10:17.526 --> 00:10:19.935 I really wanted to bring them along. 00:10:19.935 --> 00:10:23.815 I'm so sorry, but they misbehaved and I just couldn't do it. 00:10:23.815 --> 00:10:25.595 (Laughter) 00:10:25.595 --> 00:10:28.365 So for me it's great because this is my life's work. 00:10:28.365 --> 00:10:30.761 I've spent 35 years doing this stuff, 00:10:30.761 --> 00:10:34.185 and it's nice to feel that I'm starting to get close to something. 00:10:34.723 --> 00:10:38.343 But a lot of people don't feel that way about these things, 00:10:40.267 --> 00:10:42.417 because these creatures are artificial. 00:10:42.720 --> 00:10:44.220 They live in a computer. 00:10:44.220 --> 00:10:47.620 So they can't have a supernatural soul, 00:10:48.434 --> 00:10:53.118 and they can't even have freaky, weird things like quantum mechanics 00:10:53.154 --> 00:10:57.544 to explain the consciousness and all the other things that we concoct 00:10:57.544 --> 00:11:01.038 to try to make ourselves feel better about how special we are. 00:11:04.687 --> 00:11:06.328 They're machines, 00:11:06.678 --> 00:11:10.028 and therefore, if I'm right, so are we, 00:11:10.790 --> 00:11:13.920 and nobody wants to be called a machine. 00:11:14.174 --> 00:11:17.924 You just don't want to tell people that. They don't want to be it. 00:11:17.924 --> 00:11:22.804 It's not exactly special, and machines wear out. 00:11:24.318 --> 00:11:26.308 So what do I do? 00:11:27.450 --> 00:11:30.150 What do you do if it bothers you? 00:11:30.521 --> 00:11:33.231 Well, all that stuff I was telling you 00:11:33.231 --> 00:11:38.041 about Christopher and feedback and collections of little cells, 00:11:38.889 --> 00:11:40.779 that's where the answer lies. 00:11:40.970 --> 00:11:45.220 I can't explain it to you now, but if you want to know 00:11:45.220 --> 00:11:48.585 how to deal with the fact that we are machines - 00:11:49.413 --> 00:11:52.321 and that's not a bad thing - that's where to look. 00:11:52.786 --> 00:11:56.856 But let me try and finish with a cosmogony, 00:11:56.856 --> 00:11:59.366 a little story of a better origins, 00:11:59.366 --> 00:12:01.066 the creation story. 00:12:01.312 --> 00:12:03.552 You know the biblical creation story. 00:12:05.703 --> 00:12:12.213 Basically, God created the universe perfect and fully formed, 00:12:13.212 --> 00:12:15.882 and then some people came along and screwed it all up, 00:12:15.882 --> 00:12:18.952 and it's all been downhill ever since. 00:12:19.854 --> 00:12:24.274 So that creation story is all about decline and decay. 00:12:25.537 --> 00:12:29.227 But in my field, complexity studies, 00:12:29.227 --> 00:12:30.627 complexity theory, 00:12:31.982 --> 00:12:35.982 we can offer a different kind of creation story. 00:12:37.074 --> 00:12:42.164 And in that story the universe wasn't created fully formed and perfect; 00:12:43.261 --> 00:12:49.161 it was very, very simple and very, very, very, very, very, very boring. 00:12:50.330 --> 00:12:55.310 But it's a creative universe, a self-organizing universe, 00:12:55.660 --> 00:12:59.861 a universe that discovers and invents things that didn't exist before - 00:13:00.397 --> 00:13:01.527 all the time. 00:13:04.916 --> 00:13:09.506 Essentially thanks to the power of feedback, 00:13:10.129 --> 00:13:15.789 an empty universe once discovered how to make matter out of empty space. 00:13:16.700 --> 00:13:18.890 And once it had figured out how to make matter 00:13:18.890 --> 00:13:20.510 and the matter cooled down enough, 00:13:20.510 --> 00:13:22.880 it discovered it could do chemistry with it. 00:13:23.951 --> 00:13:28.071 And the chemistry practiced and practiced and practiced for billions of years 00:13:28.071 --> 00:13:30.861 and eventually figured out it could make life. 00:13:31.605 --> 00:13:35.795 And then as soon as life showed up, it was never going to go away again, 00:13:36.815 --> 00:13:39.615 so it experimented with different ways 00:13:39.615 --> 00:13:42.165 of plugging cells together into communities 00:13:42.165 --> 00:13:45.345 to do different things that enabled it to survive, 00:13:45.345 --> 00:13:47.840 made it self-sustaining, 00:13:47.840 --> 00:13:50.597 and during that process, eventually, 00:13:50.709 --> 00:13:53.655 it needed to build models of the world 00:13:53.826 --> 00:13:58.486 so that it could make plans and predict things, 00:13:58.595 --> 00:14:01.135 and I think that's where consciousness came from. 00:14:01.135 --> 00:14:06.425 So it's just what happens when a certain kind of machine is working. 00:14:06.425 --> 00:14:08.708 There's nothing freaky about it. 00:14:10.510 --> 00:14:14.642 But this is a pretty cool universe 00:14:14.912 --> 00:14:16.980 because we emerged out of all this. 00:14:16.980 --> 00:14:19.410 So what I'm saying is that, 00:14:19.410 --> 00:14:23.730 yes, we are machines, but we're not just machines; 00:14:24.282 --> 00:14:26.952 we're amazing machines. 00:14:28.305 --> 00:14:32.305 We're the product of 14 billion years of experiment 00:14:33.013 --> 00:14:35.323 by an incredibly creative universe. 00:14:35.323 --> 00:14:38.963 And so hopefully that makes you feel a little bit better 00:14:40.222 --> 00:14:41.832 about being a machine. 00:14:42.000 --> 00:14:46.560 So my advice is to try and embrace you're in a machine, 00:14:47.033 --> 00:14:50.483 and it's not a bad thing to be. 00:14:50.771 --> 00:14:52.001 So thank you. 00:14:52.001 --> 00:14:54.872 (Applause)