[Script Info] Title: [Events] Format: Layer, Start, End, Style, Name, MarginL, MarginR, MarginV, Effect, Text Dialogue: 0,0:00:01.58,0:00:03.88,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[MACHINE HUMMING SOUNDS] Dialogue: 0,0:00:14.96,0:00:18.88,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I kind of enjoy being in that stage\Nof perpetual confusion, Dialogue: 0,0:00:20.56,0:00:24.36,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,not being completely at place\Nwith one category Dialogue: 0,0:00:25.10,0:00:27.98,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and being completely comfortable in that flux. Dialogue: 0,0:00:39.24,0:00:42.26,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,["Jes Fan In Flux"] Dialogue: 0,0:00:50.26,0:00:53.36,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[Urban Glass, Brooklyn] Dialogue: 0,0:00:56.52,0:00:57.70,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[Jes Fan, artist] Dialogue: 0,0:00:57.70,0:01:00.74,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,While I was in school\Nin the RISD glass program, Dialogue: 0,0:01:00.74,0:01:05.48,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,learning how this matter transformed itself\Nfrom one state into another Dialogue: 0,0:01:05.48,0:01:10.40,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,really entranced me into thinking,\N"How I can I apply it to other mediums?" Dialogue: 0,0:01:12.48,0:01:15.84,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,--You have to move so quick\Nbecause the material is alive. Dialogue: 0,0:01:17.90,0:01:19.96,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,--It was liquid, now it's almost plastic Dialogue: 0,0:01:19.96,0:01:24.36,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,-- and then it'll become more like\Nwhat we think of what glass is. Dialogue: 0,0:01:26.92,0:01:28.66,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,My work comes from two experiences. Dialogue: 0,0:01:29.62,0:01:30.34,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,--Blow. Dialogue: 0,0:01:32.02,0:01:39.58,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,One is moving from Hong Kong,\Nwhere I was considered as a majority. Dialogue: 0,0:01:39.58,0:01:43.42,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And then moving to the U.S. where\NI was suddenly considered as a minority. Dialogue: 0,0:01:44.84,0:01:47.76,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And another one is\Ngrowing up being queer. Dialogue: 0,0:01:49.64,0:01:51.62,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Being queer in Hong Kong is very hard. Dialogue: 0,0:01:52.44,0:01:55.32,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,You can't find yourself represented. Dialogue: 0,0:01:55.66,0:01:58.90,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,When you can't see yourself in the mirror,\Nyou think you're a ghost. Dialogue: 0,0:02:01.52,0:02:04.82,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I'm really curious as to how\Nsubstances get imbued Dialogue: 0,0:02:04.82,0:02:08.81,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,with these really political identity categories, Dialogue: 0,0:02:08.81,0:02:14.18,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and how there is also constantly\Na biological affiliation to race. Dialogue: 0,0:02:15.42,0:02:21.12,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So I started making sculptures\Nextending to biological mediums-- Dialogue: 0,0:02:22.18,0:02:25.58,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,things that are imbued\Nwith identity categories-- Dialogue: 0,0:02:25.58,0:02:27.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,specifically testosterone, Dialogue: 0,0:02:27.42,0:02:28.88,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and also estrogen, Dialogue: 0,0:02:28.88,0:02:30.40,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but also melanin. Dialogue: 0,0:02:32.12,0:02:35.24,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,In one of the projects I did\Ncalled "Mother is a Women," Dialogue: 0,0:02:35.24,0:02:37.72,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I asked my mom for her urine samples. Dialogue: 0,0:02:38.16,0:02:43.82,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,There is nothing weirder than holding\Nyour mom's excretions in your hand Dialogue: 0,0:02:43.82,0:02:46.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,trying to cross U.S. customs. Dialogue: 0,0:02:46.00,0:02:46.92,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[LAUGHS] Dialogue: 0,0:02:47.72,0:02:48.92,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It's so weird. Dialogue: 0,0:02:50.12,0:02:54.74,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Then I worked with a lab\Nand extracted estrogen out of the sample, Dialogue: 0,0:02:54.74,0:02:56.52,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and created a beauty cream out of it. Dialogue: 0,0:02:57.08,0:02:59.70,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[VIDEO VOICE OVER]\N--The purest estrogen from my mother's urine... Dialogue: 0,0:02:59.70,0:03:05.18,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[FAN] In this age where substances\Nthat sustain identity categories Dialogue: 0,0:03:05.18,0:03:08.72,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,can be bought, and sold,\Nand made, and commissioned, Dialogue: 0,0:03:08.72,0:03:12.84,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,how am I, as a vessel of these identities, exist? Dialogue: 0,0:03:16.66,0:03:19.88,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[Chinatown] Dialogue: 0,0:03:20.88,0:03:26.86,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I started playing with these substances\Nwhen a lot of friends around me started transitioning. Dialogue: 0,0:03:29.50,0:03:31.62,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And also I started transitioning. Dialogue: 0,0:03:36.30,0:03:40.10,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Using testosterone to masculinize my body Dialogue: 0,0:03:40.10,0:03:45.58,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,is in some way similar to\Nusing a chisel to carve out a surface. Dialogue: 0,0:03:47.08,0:03:49.04,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,In a way, you're sculpting your body. Dialogue: 0,0:03:49.04,0:03:51.58,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And in a way, I'm also like that glass, Dialogue: 0,0:03:51.58,0:03:53.38,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,in this liquid transformation, Dialogue: 0,0:03:53.38,0:03:55.24,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,or perpetually in flux. Dialogue: 0,0:04:01.20,0:04:03.30,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It's almost like watching Discovery Channel. Dialogue: 0,0:04:06.50,0:04:07.90,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,You learn codes Dialogue: 0,0:04:07.90,0:04:11.36,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that you weren't brought up leaning Dialogue: 0,0:04:12.56,0:04:14.64,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and you have to unlearn a lot. Dialogue: 0,0:04:16.20,0:04:18.18,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It's not always comfortable. Dialogue: 0,0:04:30.58,0:04:33.88,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[Recess, Brooklyn] Dialogue: 0,0:04:40.76,0:04:44.48,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Right now, I'm working on a series\Nof sculptures called "Systems." Dialogue: 0,0:04:46.36,0:04:50.96,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,They are all this lattice pattern Dialogue: 0,0:04:50.96,0:04:53.84,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,with these glass globules hanging on them. Dialogue: 0,0:04:56.54,0:05:01.62,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,These glass globules in turn become\Ncontainers for these biological substances. Dialogue: 0,0:05:05.12,0:05:08.86,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I pour silicone inside the vessel. Dialogue: 0,0:05:09.72,0:05:11.94,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Then I inject melanin, Dialogue: 0,0:05:12.92,0:05:13.94,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,testosterone, Dialogue: 0,0:05:14.30,0:05:15.58,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and also estrogen, Dialogue: 0,0:05:16.06,0:05:16.96,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and also fat. Dialogue: 0,0:05:22.24,0:05:23.78,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Playing with these substances, Dialogue: 0,0:05:23.78,0:05:27.96,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I want to see it detached from the body\Nand existing on its own. Dialogue: 0,0:05:28.42,0:05:30.50,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Once they're removed from the body, Dialogue: 0,0:05:30.50,0:05:34.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the sight of identification,\Nlike, "What are they?" Dialogue: 0,0:05:51.00,0:05:53.84,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It's really interesting how animate\Nthese materials are, Dialogue: 0,0:05:54.42,0:05:57.44,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,not behaving in a way\Nthat you would expect it to. Dialogue: 0,0:05:59.06,0:06:02.40,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,There's a material expansion\Nthat wants to push the shells. Dialogue: 0,0:06:03.28,0:06:05.28,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And sometimes it just implodes. Dialogue: 0,0:06:09.96,0:06:12.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Holding the melanin in my hands, Dialogue: 0,0:06:12.01,0:06:14.06,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,or holding the hormones in my hands-- Dialogue: 0,0:06:14.06,0:06:16.46,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,such contested political substance-- Dialogue: 0,0:06:16.46,0:06:18.30,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,there's some absurdity in it. Dialogue: 0,0:06:21.14,0:06:24.70,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,How banal are these little flecks of powders? Dialogue: 0,0:06:27.92,0:06:30.04,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,This is ultimately the most absurd. Dialogue: 0,0:06:33.26,0:06:38.08,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Maybe it is triggering the similar\Nexperiences of being racialized, Dialogue: 0,0:06:38.08,0:06:39.62,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,or being gendered. Dialogue: 0,0:06:41.28,0:06:44.32,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It's just the disposition\Nthat you're constantly placed in-- Dialogue: 0,0:06:45.02,0:06:47.08,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,a constant act of othering. Dialogue: 0,0:06:48.96,0:06:53.48,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But, how can we be so absolutely certain\Nthat the binary can satisfy us?