0:00:00.000,0:00:01.823 Question: What would you say 0:00:01.823,0:00:04.406 to a lost person who says 0:00:04.406,0:00:05.991 the reason I'm not a Christian 0:00:05.991,0:00:09.862 is because there's so many [br]hypocrites in the church? 0:00:09.862,0:00:12.537 Clint: Well, I would say to that person 0:00:12.537,0:00:16.486 what they're calling the church is wrong. 0:00:16.486,0:00:18.436 I would say to that person, 0:00:18.436,0:00:20.350 what you're calling the church 0:00:20.350,0:00:21.996 is not the true church. 0:00:21.996,0:00:24.672 It might be a religious organization. 0:00:24.672,0:00:29.168 It might be a denominational gathering. 0:00:29.168,0:00:31.957 It might be some religious institution, 0:00:31.957,0:00:34.291 but it's not the true church. 0:00:34.291,0:00:37.560 The true church of the Bible 0:00:37.560,0:00:40.543 is not populated with hypocrites. 0:00:40.543,0:00:43.482 That's not to say that a true Christian, 0:00:43.482,0:00:48.399 a true believer can't [br]be caught in hypocrisy. 0:00:48.399,0:00:50.584 Peter - when he denied the Lord Jesus, 0:00:50.584,0:00:52.588 that was an act of hypocrisy. 0:00:52.588,0:00:54.995 He had said earlier, [br]"Thou art the Christ." 0:00:54.995,0:00:57.422 You're the Christ. [br]The Son of the living God. 0:00:57.422,0:00:59.270 Jesus confirmed that statement 0:00:59.270,0:01:01.273 and said He would build His church on it. 0:01:01.273,0:01:03.162 And then later you have Peter 0:01:03.162,0:01:06.245 caught in an act of hypocrisy 0:01:06.245,0:01:09.652 denying the Lord Jesus Christ. 0:01:09.652,0:01:13.373 That's an act, but [br]Peter was not a hypocrite 0:01:13.373,0:01:15.178 in his lifestyle. 0:01:15.178,0:01:17.759 There's a big distinction there. 0:01:17.759,0:01:19.393 Later on in Galatians 2, 0:01:19.393,0:01:22.163 you have the Apostle [br]Paul confronting Peter 0:01:22.163,0:01:24.693 over an act of hypocrisy 0:01:24.693,0:01:28.449 that had the tendency [br]to lead others astray. 0:01:28.449,0:01:33.063 But Peter was not living [br]a life of hypocrisy. 0:01:33.063,0:01:38.214 So the true church is not [br]populated by hypocrites. 0:01:38.214,0:01:41.338 The local church, local denomination, 0:01:41.338,0:01:43.695 or some religious institution - 0:01:43.695,0:01:45.500 that might be the case. 0:01:45.500,0:01:48.891 So first I would counter [br]with that thought. 0:01:48.891,0:01:52.485 What you're calling the [br]church isn't the true church. 0:01:52.485,0:01:56.182 And then I would say secondly 0:01:56.182,0:01:59.281 to that individual, [br]you're not being honest. 0:01:59.281,0:02:01.953 The reason you're not a Christian 0:02:01.953,0:02:04.771 is not because of something[br]somebody else is doing. 0:02:04.771,0:02:07.065 That's just an excuse. 0:02:07.065,0:02:09.395 The reason that you're not a Christian 0:02:09.395,0:02:12.297 is because you don't [br]want to submit to God. 0:02:12.297,0:02:14.538 That's everyone's problem. 0:02:14.538,0:02:15.964 They're proud. 0:02:15.964,0:02:18.743 They don't want to bow the knee to God. 0:02:18.743,0:02:21.447 They don't want to yield to free grace. 0:02:21.447,0:02:22.848 They don't want to receive 0:02:22.848,0:02:26.522 from the hand of someone else salvation. 0:02:26.522,0:02:29.081 They want to earn it on their own. 0:02:29.081,0:02:31.384 They want to love their sin. 0:02:31.384,0:02:32.828 They want to keep their sin. 0:02:32.828,0:02:36.029 They don't want God on His terms. 0:02:36.029,0:02:38.926 That's why they're not a Christian. 0:02:38.926,0:02:43.477 So I guess that's how [br]I would approach that. 0:02:43.477,0:02:46.502 You can select another [br]part of this interview below. 0:02:46.502,0:02:49.591 Or, if you're listening, you can [br]find the rest of the interview 0:02:49.591,0:02:52.868 on illbehonest.com or our mobile app.