WEBVTT 00:00:06.860 --> 00:00:07.975 Good morning. 00:00:09.705 --> 00:00:13.930 I'll try to tell you what I think, 00:00:13.930 --> 00:00:18.759 what I believe led me to be here this morning 00:00:19.299 --> 00:00:21.589 speaking to you at TEDx, 00:00:21.589 --> 00:00:23.915 which is of great importance to the whole world. 00:00:25.003 --> 00:00:29.017 On a February night in 2014, 00:00:29.017 --> 00:00:32.437 in Peru, in a small city, 00:00:33.837 --> 00:00:35.228 in a football game 00:00:35.228 --> 00:00:38.488 where I was playing for Cruzeiro in the Libertadores Cup 00:00:38.488 --> 00:00:42.077 upon entering the field for the second half, 00:00:42.077 --> 00:00:44.487 every time I saw the ball coming towards me 00:00:44.487 --> 00:00:46.304 and I got the ball, 00:00:46.304 --> 00:00:49.018 I heard a monkey sound, and well ... 00:00:49.678 --> 00:00:54.328 This was increasing every minute of the game. 00:00:54.328 --> 00:01:00.734 Since we were losing the game, we were tuned into the tension of the match. 00:01:00.734 --> 00:01:02.978 Since it was an important match, 00:01:02.978 --> 00:01:05.782 I didn't even sense what was happening. 00:01:05.782 --> 00:01:08.670 This wasn't the first time that it had happened; 00:01:08.670 --> 00:01:13.560 we were getting used to it and were overcoming all that. 00:01:15.070 --> 00:01:19.468 There was only a little time left before the end of game. 00:01:19.468 --> 00:01:21.963 I was on the sideline 00:01:21.963 --> 00:01:26.928 when the match ended, and the press was already on the border of the field. 00:01:26.928 --> 00:01:28.988 The press came in my direction, 00:01:28.988 --> 00:01:32.018 and I was imagining that they would talk about the result 00:01:32.018 --> 00:01:33.888 because we had lost the game. 00:01:33.888 --> 00:01:38.677 In my head, I was ready with a quick response 00:01:38.677 --> 00:01:44.518 because football questions are normally all the same, 00:01:44.518 --> 00:01:46.658 so the answers are also all the same. 00:01:46.658 --> 00:01:48.722 (Laughter) 00:01:50.372 --> 00:01:54.028 So I had the answers ready. Easy, right? 00:01:54.028 --> 00:01:57.438 I thought that they would ask, 00:01:57.438 --> 00:02:00.738 "Why did you lose?", "Why didn't you score?" 00:02:00.738 --> 00:02:04.845 So I was ready with all those answers. 00:02:04.845 --> 00:02:09.059 And to my surprise - this was only the three to five seconds 00:02:09.059 --> 00:02:11.449 after the game was finished, it was very quick - 00:02:11.449 --> 00:02:16.413 the question was different than all those I had ever heard at the end of a game. 00:02:17.213 --> 00:02:19.155 The question was the following: 00:02:19.155 --> 00:02:21.355 they asked me what I felt 00:02:21.355 --> 00:02:24.515 or how I felt 00:02:24.515 --> 00:02:27.239 after having won so many titles, 00:02:27.239 --> 00:02:29.922 played in so many countries, 00:02:29.922 --> 00:02:32.538 to be suffering that act of racism or racial insult - 00:02:32.538 --> 00:02:34.702 I don't remember very well how he spoke - 00:02:34.702 --> 00:02:36.737 in a neighbor country to ours. 00:02:37.407 --> 00:02:38.975 And that question surprised me 00:02:38.975 --> 00:02:42.838 because, as I said, I assumed it would be the usual question. 00:02:42.838 --> 00:02:48.338 And that surprised me, and I was not prepared with an answer. 00:02:48.338 --> 00:02:49.906 I seized that opportunity. 00:02:49.906 --> 00:02:52.433 As I didn't have an answer, 00:02:52.433 --> 00:02:58.698 I seized the opportunity when he spoke of achievements and titles 00:02:58.698 --> 00:03:01.688 that I had won in my career. 00:03:01.688 --> 00:03:06.585 And I simply said that I would trade all my titles 00:03:06.585 --> 00:03:09.095 for racial and social equality, anyway ... 00:03:09.095 --> 00:03:12.028 That is what I said, but it was real quick. 00:03:12.988 --> 00:03:14.930 At the end, I went to the locker room, 00:03:14.930 --> 00:03:16.490 took a shower ... 00:03:16.490 --> 00:03:20.640 There was no cell phone reception in the stadium; the city was underserved. 00:03:20.640 --> 00:03:23.586 The reception was very weak at the hotel, too. 00:03:23.586 --> 00:03:27.963 I arrived at the hotel and it was already late here in Brazil, it was one o'clock. 00:03:27.963 --> 00:03:31.523 I grabbed the telephone and, as was my practice, I called home. 00:03:31.523 --> 00:03:35.518 When I called home, my family, my wife, my children, 00:03:35.518 --> 00:03:40.288 everyone was asking what had happened and how I was. 00:03:40.288 --> 00:03:43.833 I said, "I'm okay, we lost the game, right? 00:03:43.833 --> 00:03:46.033 I'm upset, but it's the way it goes. 00:03:46.033 --> 00:03:48.393 Sports are like this, you win, you lose ..." 00:03:48.393 --> 00:03:50.797 I thought it was about this that they were asking. 00:03:50.797 --> 00:03:54.930 My family said, "No, this that happened," and such, and I wasn't aware of anything! 00:03:56.570 --> 00:04:02.321 There was no internet, nothing in the room, the situation was precarious. 00:04:02.321 --> 00:04:07.807 Then they said, "No, it's coming out on all the websites all over the world, 00:04:07.817 --> 00:04:13.968 the country's president talked about it, our president too, 00:04:14.658 --> 00:04:19.108 and various athletes across the world, many people are talking about this issue." 00:04:19.108 --> 00:04:23.744 I was worried because I am a guy that doesn't like much the media thing, 00:04:23.744 --> 00:04:29.834 I always liked to be valued only for my work, for my accomplishments. 00:04:29.834 --> 00:04:31.894 I don't like this thing of - 00:04:31.894 --> 00:04:33.849 So it started to frighten me. 00:04:33.849 --> 00:04:40.059 I went downstairs to talk with the press agent about what was happening, 00:04:40.059 --> 00:04:43.229 and when I arrived, there were many people in the reception area, 00:04:43.229 --> 00:04:47.571 press from all the places that were covering the game. 00:04:47.571 --> 00:04:51.191 I went upstairs fast, he came to my room, "Look, people want to talk to you." 00:04:51.191 --> 00:04:55.098 I said, "No, I have nothing to say. 00:04:55.098 --> 00:04:58.408 Tell them that I am sleeping, that I'm going to sleep, or something." 00:04:59.768 --> 00:05:03.377 And when I woke up the next day, we caught the flight, arrived in Brazil, 00:05:03.377 --> 00:05:06.127 and the thing continued, even bigger. 00:05:06.127 --> 00:05:11.961 And that frightened me because I didn't want to see my name spinning like that. 00:05:11.961 --> 00:05:14.849 Of course, I didn't look for that. 00:05:14.849 --> 00:05:17.824 What I did was simply 00:05:17.824 --> 00:05:21.224 give an answer like anyone unprepared for the issue would, 00:05:21.224 --> 00:05:23.354 but it was an answer that came from my heart. 00:05:23.354 --> 00:05:29.221 I think that in every battle, in every war, or whatever, 00:05:29.221 --> 00:05:32.061 the only solution for me is in love. 00:05:32.061 --> 00:05:36.307 So, that's what I said, that I would trade all my titles for equality. 00:05:36.307 --> 00:05:39.729 That was what came to my mind, and I seized that opportunity, 00:05:39.729 --> 00:05:43.259 And the thing started to be talked about more and more, 00:05:43.259 --> 00:05:46.552 and then my phone rang. 00:05:46.982 --> 00:05:49.982 It was Dinorah and Manuel, 00:05:49.982 --> 00:05:53.982 who are representatives of CUFA, Central Única das Favelas. 00:05:53.982 --> 00:05:58.363 We've set up a few football projects together, 00:05:58.363 --> 00:06:02.302 so, we were already partners in other activities, 00:06:02.302 --> 00:06:05.748 and we talked about - 00:06:06.558 --> 00:06:08.418 because the thing was so big - 00:06:08.418 --> 00:06:11.748 creating a campaign, a project, something, 00:06:11.748 --> 00:06:15.716 and we started to talk about names, about what could be done ... 00:06:15.716 --> 00:06:18.508 I remember that, out of the various names being considered, 00:06:18.508 --> 00:06:21.918 one was "Chutando o Racismo," "Kicking Racism," 00:06:21.918 --> 00:06:25.985 as we were talking about that, and the World Cup was coming up. 00:06:26.755 --> 00:06:28.236 We reached a conclusion. 00:06:28.236 --> 00:06:33.056 I thought the name should be "Chutando o Preconceito," "Kicking Prejudice," 00:06:33.056 --> 00:06:36.966 and they immediately agreed because there was this idea, 00:06:36.966 --> 00:06:41.508 that we should talk not only about racism, but all types of prejudice, 00:06:41.508 --> 00:06:48.768 because I believe that when I am lecturing and talking about prejudice, 00:06:48.768 --> 00:06:54.057 I don't need to talk about what I suffered or what I am going to suffer 00:06:54.057 --> 00:06:57.887 for the color of my skin, or for my hair, 00:06:57.887 --> 00:07:01.354 just as I believe also that when we are talking about a disabled person, 00:07:01.354 --> 00:07:03.374 someone in a wheelchair or an obese person, 00:07:03.374 --> 00:07:06.278 we don't need to talk about what they have suffered 00:07:06.278 --> 00:07:09.778 or are going to suffer from their problem. 00:07:09.778 --> 00:07:15.478 With our eyes, we can see and imagine many things, 00:07:15.478 --> 00:07:19.978 and all of us have a little prejudice in our hearts. 00:07:19.978 --> 00:07:24.301 Both the black and the white, anyway, we have it. 00:07:24.301 --> 00:07:29.170 What I try to convey is that we first accept that we have this, 00:07:29.170 --> 00:07:31.102 and then try to evolve, to improve. 00:07:32.202 --> 00:07:34.930 And then we created the project "Kicking Prejudice." 00:07:34.930 --> 00:07:39.331 The project's first action was at Shopping Total. 00:07:39.331 --> 00:07:45.361 We did a really cool activity, many participated, influential people, 00:07:45.361 --> 00:07:48.191 both from football and the media. 00:07:48.191 --> 00:07:52.351 And this ended up running all over Brazil 00:07:52.351 --> 00:07:56.931 where I gave 16 lectures in 2014. 00:07:56.931 --> 00:08:00.557 I didn't give more because I was playing and didn't have time. 00:08:01.587 --> 00:08:05.778 Many of these lectures used a question-and-answer model, 00:08:08.648 --> 00:08:12.968 and what surprised me a lot was that each time I lectured, 00:08:12.968 --> 00:08:16.468 there were always some repeated questions, 00:08:16.468 --> 00:08:20.971 about how I overcame it, 00:08:20.971 --> 00:08:24.401 how I had the calmness 00:08:24.401 --> 00:08:29.171 to overcome or live with it and be calm. 00:08:29.171 --> 00:08:32.373 Because it wasn't the first time that this happened to an athlete, 00:08:32.373 --> 00:08:36.593 this has already happened many times, especially in Europe, it happens nonstop, 00:08:36.593 --> 00:08:40.370 and in the majority of cases, athletes, whether entitled or not, 00:08:40.370 --> 00:08:42.530 react to it in a different way. 00:08:42.530 --> 00:08:45.678 Many leave the football field, many throw their shirt, 00:08:45.678 --> 00:08:48.988 many react by cursing the fan. 00:08:49.888 --> 00:08:52.563 I believe that each one reacts in one way, 00:08:52.563 --> 00:08:57.463 and the way that I reacted was that I only gave a short sentence, 00:08:57.463 --> 00:09:02.950 but I think that this is what made a difference and an impact. 00:09:02.950 --> 00:09:09.582 So they asked this a lot, how I, as a person, had reacted like this. 00:09:09.582 --> 00:09:14.338 I couldn't say why I reacted in this way 00:09:14.338 --> 00:09:17.208 without talking about my life 00:09:17.208 --> 00:09:22.731 because we don't do anything for which we are not prepared. 00:09:23.261 --> 00:09:25.905 My preparation, my base - 00:09:25.905 --> 00:09:28.735 I always say that I had a very good base. 00:09:29.275 --> 00:09:33.265 I will explain to you about my family base which was very good, 00:09:33.265 --> 00:09:36.798 a base in which I was raised practically by my mother alone. 00:09:36.798 --> 00:09:42.396 When I was seven, my father abandoned us, it was just my older sister and me. 00:09:43.406 --> 00:09:46.898 A base where my mother left for work at 7 a.m. 00:09:46.898 --> 00:09:50.108 and came back home at 6 p.m. 00:09:50.108 --> 00:09:57.098 This is one of the things that I remember most, 00:09:57.098 --> 00:10:01.468 that my mother, when Friday, Saturday and Sunday arrived, 00:10:01.468 --> 00:10:04.581 mainly Friday and Saturday, as she worked at a club, 00:10:04.581 --> 00:10:07.915 there would be parties, dancing, at the club, 00:10:07.915 --> 00:10:10.685 so she worked extra hours. 00:10:10.685 --> 00:10:14.452 And that was an extra source of income. 00:10:14.452 --> 00:10:18.399 I remember that I liked to play football, 00:10:18.399 --> 00:10:21.147 I arrived at 6 p.m. at home and my mother said, 00:10:21.147 --> 00:10:25.157 "Son, don't make any noise because I have to go out again at 10 p.m. to work." 00:10:25.157 --> 00:10:29.567 There were three short hours that she had to sleep and to return to work 00:10:29.567 --> 00:10:32.057 because she worked all night. 00:10:32.357 --> 00:10:34.392 So this is the base that I have, 00:10:34.392 --> 00:10:38.432 and the memory that I have of childhood is a memory of work, 00:10:38.432 --> 00:10:40.277 that I arrived at home, 00:10:40.277 --> 00:10:44.987 my mother had just arrived from work and was already resting to work again. 00:10:44.987 --> 00:10:48.819 I woke up in the morning and she arrived at seven, eight o'clock in the morning, 00:10:48.819 --> 00:10:51.483 bringing something different, 00:10:51.483 --> 00:10:55.963 maybe something to eat that I hadn't had all week. 00:10:56.413 --> 00:10:58.777 So, in my head, I imagined 00:10:58.777 --> 00:11:02.647 that work, honesty, her discipline to the schedule that she kept, 00:11:02.647 --> 00:11:06.580 sleeping just a bit to then leave again, this brought good things. 00:11:06.580 --> 00:11:10.580 I would wake up in the morning and stay at the window waiting. 00:11:10.580 --> 00:11:14.157 She would come carrying bags and I would run to get them. 00:11:14.157 --> 00:11:18.573 I was growing up imagining that work 00:11:18.573 --> 00:11:21.933 and meeting schedules was a good thing 00:11:21.933 --> 00:11:24.648 because when I asked for sneakers or something, she said, 00:11:24.648 --> 00:11:28.558 "This week I will work longer so I can buy the sneakers." 00:11:28.558 --> 00:11:33.767 So the base that I had was of work, of honesty, of keeping a schedule. 00:11:34.227 --> 00:11:37.477 And these were things that I carried into my career, 00:11:37.477 --> 00:11:42.573 since I arrived in Grêmio, at 15. 00:11:42.573 --> 00:11:46.521 I always say that I was educated inside of sports, 00:11:46.521 --> 00:11:51.811 and, for this reason, I strongly encourage all schools that have sports, music, 00:11:51.811 --> 00:11:56.327 or whatever thing that teaches discipline and maintaining schedules. 00:11:58.917 --> 00:12:02.386 I ended up carrying this through my entire life, 00:12:02.386 --> 00:12:05.716 so I always tell people 00:12:06.766 --> 00:12:09.496 that having a schedule, a work schedule, was my base. 00:12:09.496 --> 00:12:10.960 Why do I say this? 00:12:10.960 --> 00:12:16.190 Because I see a lot of people taking a stand 00:12:16.190 --> 00:12:19.540 and, sometimes, even using as an excuse the fact that they had no base, 00:12:19.540 --> 00:12:22.697 that they've been raised only by their mother, or by their father, 00:12:22.697 --> 00:12:26.656 and that was what they lacked. 00:12:26.656 --> 00:12:32.667 I don't see this, I can say that my mother raised me alone with a good base, 00:12:32.667 --> 00:12:35.436 and she was working, practically the entire day. 00:12:35.436 --> 00:12:39.875 So truly, as we've discussed here, we choose our destiny, 00:12:39.875 --> 00:12:44.305 we choose what we want to take by example. 00:12:45.015 --> 00:12:47.561 I could very well use this as an excuse, 00:12:47.561 --> 00:12:52.591 I was raised by my mother and practically didn't see her, only saw her at night, 00:12:52.591 --> 00:12:54.445 and could use this as an excuse 00:12:54.445 --> 00:13:00.567 and become a person without objectives, without focus, without a profession. 00:13:01.867 --> 00:13:04.484 And many people say, "Oh, but he was lucky." 00:13:04.484 --> 00:13:07.029 I did have much luck, 00:13:07.029 --> 00:13:10.939 and every time that luck found me, it found me working. 00:13:10.939 --> 00:13:12.949 This was the great luck that I had. 00:13:12.949 --> 00:13:15.610 When luck came to me, it always found me doing something. 00:13:15.610 --> 00:13:18.590 I was always working, waiting for it. 00:13:18.590 --> 00:13:24.024 This is the luck that I have in my life, 00:13:24.024 --> 00:13:27.774 of having had my mother's example, 00:13:27.774 --> 00:13:31.618 an example of much struggle, of much work. 00:13:34.747 --> 00:13:37.337 I'd like you to know 00:13:39.687 --> 00:13:41.947 that I am proud to see, 00:13:41.947 --> 00:13:43.957 on a Saturday morning, 00:13:43.957 --> 00:13:49.197 persons of different ages and professions 00:13:49.197 --> 00:13:53.087 worried about so many issues that are going to be discussed here. 00:13:53.087 --> 00:13:58.571 This shows that we are capable of being a better country, of being better people. 00:13:58.571 --> 00:14:02.201 This encourages me because on a Saturday morning, 00:14:02.201 --> 00:14:04.944 although we could be doing many other things, we are here 00:14:04.944 --> 00:14:08.797 to listen to different stories, different lives. 00:14:08.797 --> 00:14:12.457 This shows that we have dedicated people, 00:14:12.457 --> 00:14:15.379 people that can change the world, like was said here. 00:14:15.379 --> 00:14:17.207 If each one of us changes our world, 00:14:17.207 --> 00:14:22.697 we are going to reach a higher goal, each one trying to change their world. 00:14:23.807 --> 00:14:29.072 And this was one of the things that encouraged me, 00:14:30.772 --> 00:14:37.322 each day, to not only become a player, but to become a person 00:14:37.322 --> 00:14:42.417 because I always thought about the day when I would stop playing football; 00:14:42.417 --> 00:14:47.327 I would have to deal with Paulo César, the person. 00:14:47.617 --> 00:14:51.437 Even with failures and successes because we are human, we are like that, 00:14:51.437 --> 00:14:57.357 I always seek to have a life that I can follow after football, 00:14:57.357 --> 00:14:58.517 with respect as a man. 00:14:58.517 --> 00:15:03.067 I believe that when we have a talent or do something, 00:15:03.067 --> 00:15:06.667 many times people put up with us because of the talent we have, 00:15:06.667 --> 00:15:11.052 but when we are men and have a discipline, 00:15:11.052 --> 00:15:14.772 people put up with us, in fact they respect us, 00:15:14.772 --> 00:15:16.462 they like us for our character. 00:15:16.462 --> 00:15:20.724 This is one of the things I have learned, and I wanted to pass on to you: 00:15:22.364 --> 00:15:24.964 through work and through honesty, 00:15:24.964 --> 00:15:28.324 we can reach our goals. 00:15:28.324 --> 00:15:32.672 I have learned in recent years 00:15:32.672 --> 00:15:36.712 the great "trickery" of the century. 00:15:36.712 --> 00:15:40.245 When I say this word, people get scared, 00:15:40.245 --> 00:15:43.135 and I don't like it either, 00:15:43.135 --> 00:15:45.877 but I have learned this, 00:15:45.877 --> 00:15:50.797 I have lived this in the most recent years of my career, 00:15:50.797 --> 00:15:53.817 mainly by working outside of football too, 00:15:53.817 --> 00:15:58.084 as much in the social part as other areas, 00:15:59.224 --> 00:16:02.817 that the great trickery of the century is honesty. 00:16:03.537 --> 00:16:07.374 This is something that seems very simple, 00:16:07.374 --> 00:16:11.874 but today, honesty is the great trickery of the century, in business, 00:16:11.874 --> 00:16:14.637 in day to day routine, and for people 00:16:14.637 --> 00:16:16.299 it is very difficult to have. 00:16:16.299 --> 00:16:20.375 Today everyone is thinking about their own advantage, where they can win, 00:16:20.375 --> 00:16:25.447 or what they will have to do to get there, so it is very difficult to live this. 00:16:25.447 --> 00:16:27.823 I have lived this way the last years of my career, 00:16:27.823 --> 00:16:31.932 and it has given me great joy. 00:16:33.293 --> 00:16:38.313 I was not supposed to do it, but I am going to confide in you here 00:16:38.993 --> 00:16:41.902 and say that I am going to stop playing in April. 00:16:41.902 --> 00:16:44.422 I am telling you firsthand. 00:16:44.422 --> 00:16:46.898 I felt the need to say this here, now. 00:16:48.248 --> 00:16:51.558 I am going to stop with great honor. 00:16:52.618 --> 00:16:55.622 (Applause) 00:17:18.022 --> 00:17:20.352 (Applause) (Cheers) 00:17:27.482 --> 00:17:28.482 Thank you. 00:17:30.359 --> 00:17:31.356 Thank you. 00:17:31.376 --> 00:17:37.316 Maybe what every player and every athlete dreams of 00:17:38.826 --> 00:17:42.824 is to announce this in a full stadium as those where I've lived my entire life, 00:17:42.824 --> 00:17:44.745 but for me, my biggest pride 00:17:44.745 --> 00:17:48.975 is to be announcing this in a room with so many educated people, 00:17:49.815 --> 00:17:51.582 so many trained people. 00:17:52.187 --> 00:17:56.212 My dream from when I started 00:17:56.212 --> 00:18:01.782 was to be able one day to be on a stage 00:18:01.782 --> 00:18:06.302 talking for people who truly are idols. 00:18:06.302 --> 00:18:11.504 For me a true idol is a teacher, a doctor, 00:18:11.504 --> 00:18:14.264 those that educate, those that form. 00:18:14.874 --> 00:18:16.494 For me, this is the true idol, 00:18:16.494 --> 00:18:19.416 those that save lives, those that care for lives. 00:18:20.386 --> 00:18:22.786 So I could do this in a packed stadium, 00:18:22.786 --> 00:18:25.998 but I have great pride in the fact that I can do this - 00:18:25.998 --> 00:18:29.403 I don't know how many people are here, 00:18:29.403 --> 00:18:33.194 but I know that those who are here are persons that truly influence lives. 00:18:33.637 --> 00:18:34.637 Thank you so much. 00:18:34.637 --> 00:18:38.817 That's how I kicked all the difficulties I came across in my life. 00:18:38.817 --> 00:18:40.754 I want to know how you are going to kick 00:18:40.754 --> 00:18:43.014 the difficulties you come across in your lives. 00:18:43.014 --> 00:18:45.839 (Applause) (Cheers)