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Dialogue: 0,0:00:04.96,0:00:07.58,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So this is Daniel's question:
Dialogue: 0,0:00:07.58,0:00:10.34,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,"Do the Scriptures teach that
Dialogue: 0,0:00:10.34,0:00:14.47,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,two separate judgments will occur
Dialogue: 0,0:00:14.47,0:00:16.28,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,between the Gospel age
Dialogue: 0,0:00:16.28,0:00:19.68,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and the age to come?
Dialogue: 0,0:00:19.68,0:00:22.39,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Before coming to any conclusion \Non my eschatology,
Dialogue: 0,0:00:22.39,0:00:24.50,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I am not a dispensationalist,
Dialogue: 0,0:00:24.50,0:00:27.86,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I am an amillenialist \N(with a smiley face).
Dialogue: 0,0:00:27.86,0:00:29.25,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The reason why I am prompted
Dialogue: 0,0:00:29.25,0:00:30.78,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to ask this question is because
Dialogue: 0,0:00:30.78,0:00:32.54,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,according to Hebrews 9:27..."
Dialogue: 0,0:00:32.54,0:00:42.75,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So let's all turn to Hebrews 9:27.
Dialogue: 0,0:00:46.33,0:00:49.27,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,"Do Scriptures teach that
Dialogue: 0,0:00:49.27,0:00:50.91,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,two separate judgments will occur
Dialogue: 0,0:00:50.91,0:00:53.06,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,between the Gospel age\Nand the age to come?"
Dialogue: 0,0:00:53.06,0:00:54.62,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And he's asking that question
Dialogue: 0,0:00:54.62,0:00:56.76,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,because he feels like,
Dialogue: 0,0:00:56.76,0:01:00.30,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,according to Hebrews 9:27,
Dialogue: 0,0:01:00.30,0:01:02.15,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and if you have your Bibles open
Dialogue: 0,0:01:02.15,0:01:04.65,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to Hebrews 9:27,
Dialogue: 0,0:01:04.65,0:01:06.08,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,you see that it says,
Dialogue: 0,0:01:06.08,0:01:08.36,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,"And just as it is appointed
Dialogue: 0,0:01:08.36,0:01:13.18,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,for man to die once,
Dialogue: 0,0:01:13.18,0:01:17.18,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and after that comes judgment."
Dialogue: 0,0:01:17.18,0:01:20.38,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And Daniel says,
Dialogue: 0,0:01:20.38,0:01:22.51,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,"Just as it is appointed \Nfor man to die once
Dialogue: 0,0:01:22.51,0:01:24.18,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and after that comes the judgment,
Dialogue: 0,0:01:24.18,0:01:28.79,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,in the text after the words 'die once,'
Dialogue: 0,0:01:28.79,0:01:31.38,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,it says, 'and after.'
Dialogue: 0,0:01:31.38,0:01:35.16,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It sounds like the Apostle Paul
Dialogue: 0,0:01:35.16,0:01:36.33,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,is stating..."
Dialogue: 0,0:01:36.33,0:01:39.77,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,(I take issue with you on Apostle Paul)...
Dialogue: 0,0:01:39.77,0:01:42.90,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Anyway, the author of Hebrews.
Dialogue: 0,0:01:42.90,0:01:47.11,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Daniel is saying that it sounds like
Dialogue: 0,0:01:47.11,0:01:50.27,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,it's stating that after the death
Dialogue: 0,0:01:50.27,0:01:52.44,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,of an individual,
Dialogue: 0,0:01:52.44,0:01:53.67,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,saved or lost,
Dialogue: 0,0:01:53.67,0:01:58.30,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,judgment will occur right after.
Dialogue: 0,0:01:58.30,0:02:02.67,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Yet, you go to Revelation 20:11-15.
Dialogue: 0,0:02:02.67,0:02:11.68,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So keep your finger here and \Ngo to Revelation 20.
Dialogue: 0,0:02:11.68,0:02:16.21,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Verse 11-15
Dialogue: 0,0:02:16.21,0:02:20.10,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,"Then I saw a great white throne,
Dialogue: 0,0:02:20.10,0:02:21.94,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and Him who is seated on it,
Dialogue: 0,0:02:21.94,0:02:24.11,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,from His presence, earth and sky fled away
Dialogue: 0,0:02:24.11,0:02:25.96,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and no place was found for them.
Dialogue: 0,0:02:25.96,0:02:27.70,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And I saw the dead, great and small,
Dialogue: 0,0:02:27.70,0:02:29.44,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,standing before the throne,
Dialogue: 0,0:02:29.44,0:02:30.63,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and books were opened,
Dialogue: 0,0:02:30.63,0:02:32.06,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,then another book was opened,
Dialogue: 0,0:02:32.06,0:02:33.56,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,which is the Book of Life.
Dialogue: 0,0:02:33.56,0:02:35.70,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And the dead were judged \Nby what was written
Dialogue: 0,0:02:35.70,0:02:36.96,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,in the books.
Dialogue: 0,0:02:36.96,0:02:38.25,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,According to what \Nthey had done.
Dialogue: 0,0:02:38.25,0:02:39.50,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And the sea gave \Nup the dead
Dialogue: 0,0:02:39.50,0:02:40.59,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,who were in it.
Dialogue: 0,0:02:40.59,0:02:42.16,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Death and Hades \Ngave up the dead
Dialogue: 0,0:02:42.16,0:02:43.24,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,who were in them.
Dialogue: 0,0:02:43.24,0:02:45.26,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And they were judged, \Neach one of them,
Dialogue: 0,0:02:45.26,0:02:47.09,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,according to what they had done.
Dialogue: 0,0:02:47.09,0:02:48.69,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Then Death and Hades were thrown
Dialogue: 0,0:02:48.69,0:02:50.41,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,into the lake of fire.
Dialogue: 0,0:02:50.41,0:02:53.49,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,This is the second death.
Dialogue: 0,0:02:53.49,0:02:55.88,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The lake of fire.
Dialogue: 0,0:02:55.88,0:02:57.59,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And if anyone's name was not found
Dialogue: 0,0:02:57.59,0:03:00.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,written in the Book of Life,
Dialogue: 0,0:03:00.00,0:03:04.07,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,he was thrown into the lake of fire."
Dialogue: 0,0:03:04.07,0:03:10.57,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So, Daniel says, "yet, you go \Nto Revelation 20:11-15,
Dialogue: 0,0:03:10.57,0:03:14.18,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,which this passage is notoriously known as
Dialogue: 0,0:03:14.18,0:03:16.43,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the Great White Throne Judgment."
Dialogue: 0,0:03:16.43,0:03:18.64,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I don't think you have to say notoriously.
Dialogue: 0,0:03:18.64,0:03:20.64,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Because obviously the text does say
Dialogue: 0,0:03:20.64,0:03:22.41,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,there's a great white throne
Dialogue: 0,0:03:22.41,0:03:28.19,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and there's a judgment.
Dialogue: 0,0:03:28.19,0:03:33.79,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Why do you say notorious?
Dialogue: 0,0:03:33.79,0:03:36.51,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Daniel: Perhaps in other translations
Dialogue: 0,0:03:36.51,0:03:40.45,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,it words that particular \Npassage differently,
Dialogue: 0,0:03:40.45,0:03:45.56,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,so just to give a general \Ntitle on that passage
Dialogue: 0,0:03:45.56,0:03:49.30,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,was the Great White Throne Judgment.
Dialogue: 0,0:03:49.30,0:03:51.80,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Because on my translation \Nit doesn't say that.
Dialogue: 0,0:03:51.80,0:03:54.27,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Tim: On your translation it what?
Dialogue: 0,0:03:54.27,0:03:57.81,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Daniel: It says judgment \Nat the throne of God.
Dialogue: 0,0:03:57.81,0:04:00.56,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Tim: Yeah, mine says the Great\NWhite Throne Judgement.
Dialogue: 0,0:04:00.56,0:04:02.01,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I mean, I have a heading.
Dialogue: 0,0:04:02.01,0:04:04.36,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I recognize it's not inspired, but...
Dialogue: 0,0:04:04.36,0:04:06.88,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I don't think we have to be so notorious,
Dialogue: 0,0:04:06.88,0:04:08.73,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,because it is a judgment that happens
Dialogue: 0,0:04:08.73,0:04:11.79,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,at the great white throne.
Dialogue: 0,0:04:11.79,0:04:13.66,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It speaks about another judgment
Dialogue: 0,0:04:13.66,0:04:15.29,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,involving the dead.
Dialogue: 0,0:04:15.29,0:04:17.22,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The Book of Life, books being opened,
Dialogue: 0,0:04:17.22,0:04:18.65,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,being judged for our works,
Dialogue: 0,0:04:18.65,0:04:19.91,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and Death and Hades being
Dialogue: 0,0:04:19.91,0:04:21.32,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,thrown into the lake of fire.
Dialogue: 0,0:04:21.32,0:04:23.77,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,This judgment will occur \Nat the end of the age.
Dialogue: 0,0:04:23.77,0:04:25.32,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,How do you properly interpret
Dialogue: 0,0:04:25.32,0:04:26.46,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,both of these passages?
Dialogue: 0,0:04:26.46,0:04:28.37,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So, basically, his question is this.
Dialogue: 0,0:04:28.37,0:04:30.11,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It sounds like there's \Na judgment at the end,
Dialogue: 0,0:04:30.11,0:04:31.90,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but it sounds like there's \Na judgment immediately
Dialogue: 0,0:04:31.90,0:04:34.13,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,after death as well.
Dialogue: 0,0:04:34.13,0:04:41.47,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Well, ok, let's go back to Hebrews 9:27.
Dialogue: 0,0:04:41.47,0:04:47.19,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Because Daniel was basically
Dialogue: 0,0:04:47.19,0:04:54.82,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,going off of what Hebrews 9:27 \Nsounds like it's saying
Dialogue: 0,0:04:54.82,0:04:57.69,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,when taken all by itself.
Dialogue: 0,0:04:57.69,0:05:01.79,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But it's really important that that text
Dialogue: 0,0:05:01.79,0:05:04.29,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,be taken in its context.
Dialogue: 0,0:05:04.29,0:05:07.90,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Because the author of Hebrews is not
Dialogue: 0,0:05:07.90,0:05:12.87,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,primarily talking about \Ndeath and judgment.
Dialogue: 0,0:05:12.87,0:05:16.29,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,He's primarily talking about Christ
Dialogue: 0,0:05:16.29,0:05:20.55,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and His one sacrifice.
Dialogue: 0,0:05:20.55,0:05:30.70,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Let's just pick up at Hebrews 9:22.
Dialogue: 0,0:05:30.70,0:05:35.43,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,"Indeed, under the law, almost everything
Dialogue: 0,0:05:35.43,0:05:38.31,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,is purified with blood."
Dialogue: 0,0:05:38.31,0:05:42.65,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So under Moses, God designed it
Dialogue: 0,0:05:42.65,0:05:46.82,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,so that blood was necessary for much
Dialogue: 0,0:05:46.82,0:05:48.62,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,of the ceremonial purification
Dialogue: 0,0:05:48.62,0:05:50.67,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that took place.
Dialogue: 0,0:05:50.67,0:05:52.80,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,"And without the shedding of blood,
Dialogue: 0,0:05:52.80,0:05:57.79,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,there is no forgiveness of sins.
Dialogue: 0,0:05:57.79,0:06:05.09,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Thus, it was necessary for the copies
Dialogue: 0,0:06:05.09,0:06:06.93,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,of the heavenly things..."
Dialogue: 0,0:06:06.93,0:06:07.90,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The copies.
Dialogue: 0,0:06:07.90,0:06:09.28,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The stuff that happened
Dialogue: 0,0:06:09.28,0:06:10.46,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,under Moses were copies.
Dialogue: 0,0:06:10.46,0:06:13.21,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Christ is the reality.
Dialogue: 0,0:06:13.21,0:06:15.77,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,"It was necessary for the copies
Dialogue: 0,0:06:15.77,0:06:18.68,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,of the heavenly things to be purified
Dialogue: 0,0:06:18.68,0:06:20.48,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,with these rights."
Dialogue: 0,0:06:20.48,0:06:23.21,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,In other words, with blood rights.
Dialogue: 0,0:06:23.21,0:06:24.96,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,"But the heavenly things..."
Dialogue: 0,0:06:24.96,0:06:26.51,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,In other words, the things that
Dialogue: 0,0:06:26.51,0:06:29.86,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,pertain to Christ and His one offering.
Dialogue: 0,0:06:29.86,0:06:32.25,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,"The heavenly things themselves
Dialogue: 0,0:06:32.25,0:06:35.48,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,with better sacrifices than these."
Dialogue: 0,0:06:35.48,0:06:38.86,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Why, because they were animals.
Dialogue: 0,0:06:38.86,0:06:40.46,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,They were animal sacrifices.
Dialogue: 0,0:06:40.46,0:06:42.16,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It was animal blood.
Dialogue: 0,0:06:42.16,0:06:44.46,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The blood of bulls and goats
Dialogue: 0,0:06:44.46,0:06:49.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,does not do anything for sin.
Dialogue: 0,0:06:49.00,0:06:50.39,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Verse 24
Dialogue: 0,0:06:50.39,0:06:53.66,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,"For Christ has entered,
Dialogue: 0,0:06:53.66,0:06:56.70,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,not into holy places made with hands,
Dialogue: 0,0:06:56.70,0:06:59.79,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,not like the copies,
Dialogue: 0,0:06:59.79,0:07:02.01,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,which are copies of the true things,
Dialogue: 0,0:07:02.01,0:07:03.55,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but into heaven itself,
Dialogue: 0,0:07:03.55,0:07:06.77,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,now to appear in the presence of God
Dialogue: 0,0:07:06.77,0:07:09.28,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,on our behalf.
Dialogue: 0,0:07:09.28,0:07:12.23,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Nor was it to offer Himself repeatedly
Dialogue: 0,0:07:12.23,0:07:15.45,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,as the high priest enters the holy places
Dialogue: 0,0:07:15.45,0:07:19.64,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,every year with blood not his own.
Dialogue: 0,0:07:19.64,0:07:22.93,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,For then, He would have \Nhad to suffer repeatedly."
Dialogue: 0,0:07:22.93,0:07:24.24,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So, he's arguing here.
Dialogue: 0,0:07:24.24,0:07:27.40,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Christ did not have to suffer repeatedly.
Dialogue: 0,0:07:27.40,0:07:30.45,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,"It wasn't to offer Himself repeatedly."
Dialogue: 0,0:07:30.45,0:07:32.53,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Why did those have \Nto be offered repeatedly?
Dialogue: 0,0:07:32.53,0:07:35.17,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Because they never accomplished anything.
Dialogue: 0,0:07:35.17,0:07:37.38,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,There was never any removal of sin.
Dialogue: 0,0:07:37.38,0:07:38.70,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So, they had to \Nkeep coming back;
Dialogue: 0,0:07:38.70,0:07:40.05,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,keep coming back;\Nkeep coming back.
Dialogue: 0,0:07:40.05,0:07:42.23,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And you remember, one \Nof the arguments made
Dialogue: 0,0:07:42.23,0:07:45.35,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,is that these guys stood \Ndaily in the temple.
Dialogue: 0,0:07:45.35,0:07:47.85,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,When Jesus was done, He sat down.
Dialogue: 0,0:07:47.85,0:07:52.67,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,There were no chairs in the temple.
Dialogue: 0,0:07:52.67,0:07:54.55,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,"He would have had to suffer repeatedly
Dialogue: 0,0:07:54.55,0:07:57.20,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,since the foundation of the world.
Dialogue: 0,0:07:57.20,0:08:02.19,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But, as it is, He has \Nappeared once for all
Dialogue: 0,0:08:02.19,0:08:04.41,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,at the end of the ages, to put away sin
Dialogue: 0,0:08:04.41,0:08:06.28,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,by the sacrifice of Himself."
Dialogue: 0,0:08:06.28,0:08:07.27,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Now, notice this.
Dialogue: 0,0:08:07.27,0:08:08.90,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Everything has been about Christ
Dialogue: 0,0:08:08.90,0:08:10.74,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and His offering.
Dialogue: 0,0:08:10.74,0:08:12.50,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,"And just as..."
Dialogue: 0,0:08:12.50,0:08:14.05,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Now, you need to notice that.
Dialogue: 0,0:08:14.05,0:08:16.73,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Just as...
Dialogue: 0,0:08:16.73,0:08:23.52,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,"Just as it is appointed \Nfor man to die once
Dialogue: 0,0:08:23.52,0:08:26.42,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and after that comes judgment..."
Dialogue: 0,0:08:26.42,0:08:27.97,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Just like that happens.
Dialogue: 0,0:08:27.97,0:08:30.35,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Just as man dies, and then after that
Dialogue: 0,0:08:30.35,0:08:31.62,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,is the judgment,
Dialogue: 0,0:08:31.62,0:08:35.15,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,"so Christ having been offered once
Dialogue: 0,0:08:35.15,0:08:36.49,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to bear the sins of many,
Dialogue: 0,0:08:36.49,0:08:38.73,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,will appear a second time."
Dialogue: 0,0:08:38.73,0:08:40.90,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Do you see the parallel?
Dialogue: 0,0:08:40.90,0:08:44.55,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Man dies - then the judgment,
Dialogue: 0,0:08:44.55,0:08:46.89,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,is parallel to
Dialogue: 0,0:08:46.89,0:08:49.61,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Christ dying in His offering,
Dialogue: 0,0:08:49.61,0:08:51.50,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and then returning the second time.
Dialogue: 0,0:08:51.50,0:08:53.34,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Well, I would ask this:
Dialogue: 0,0:08:53.34,0:08:55.74,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,is Christ's second coming immediately
Dialogue: 0,0:08:55.74,0:08:57.82,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,after He offered Himself?
Dialogue: 0,0:08:57.82,0:08:59.57,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Because that's the parallel.
Dialogue: 0,0:08:59.57,0:09:01.12,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Well, no.
Dialogue: 0,0:09:01.12,0:09:03.23,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It's a long time later.
Dialogue: 0,0:09:03.23,0:09:05.26,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And so because those are the two things
Dialogue: 0,0:09:05.26,0:09:06.68,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,being compared there,
Dialogue: 0,0:09:06.68,0:09:07.94,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,there would be no sense,
Dialogue: 0,0:09:07.94,0:09:09.20,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,there would be no reason,
Dialogue: 0,0:09:09.20,0:09:11.22,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,there would be nothing \Nabout the parallel
Dialogue: 0,0:09:11.22,0:09:13.77,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that would require us to say,
Dialogue: 0,0:09:13.77,0:09:16.22,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,oh, the judgment must be immediately
Dialogue: 0,0:09:16.22,0:09:17.47,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,after death.
Dialogue: 0,0:09:17.47,0:09:19.52,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Do you see what I'm saying?
Dialogue: 0,0:09:19.52,0:09:20.73,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So, taken in context,
Dialogue: 0,0:09:20.73,0:09:24.36,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and then we'll pick up verse 28,
Dialogue: 0,0:09:24.36,0:09:26.19,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,"So, Christ having been offered
Dialogue: 0,0:09:26.19,0:09:28.71,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,once to bear the sins of many,
Dialogue: 0,0:09:28.71,0:09:30.45,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,will appear a second time,
Dialogue: 0,0:09:30.45,0:09:31.73,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,not to deal with sin,
Dialogue: 0,0:09:31.73,0:09:33.12,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but to save those who are
Dialogue: 0,0:09:33.12,0:09:36.56,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,eagerly waiting for Him."
Dialogue: 0,0:09:36.56,0:09:44.94,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I would just give you a text
Dialogue: 0,0:09:44.94,0:09:46.71,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,maybe we could look at very quickly
Dialogue: 0,0:09:46.71,0:09:49.06,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,before we move \Non to the second question.
Dialogue: 0,0:09:49.06,0:09:55.87,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Jump over to 2 Peter.
Dialogue: 0,0:09:55.87,0:10:00.89,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,2 Peter 2 has the classic text,
Dialogue: 0,0:10:00.89,0:10:02.49,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,in my estimation,
Dialogue: 0,0:10:02.49,0:10:05.91,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,on the intermediate state.
Dialogue: 0,0:10:05.91,0:10:09.36,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,By intermediate state, \NI mean when people die,
Dialogue: 0,0:10:09.36,0:10:15.23,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,what happens between \Ndeath and the judgment.
Dialogue: 0,0:10:15.23,0:10:18.05,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And notice what's being said here.
Dialogue: 0,0:10:18.05,0:10:21.29,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,2 Peter 2:4
Dialogue: 0,0:10:21.29,0:10:23.95,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,"For if God did not spare angels
Dialogue: 0,0:10:23.95,0:10:26.50,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,when they sinned, but \Ncast them into hell..."
Dialogue: 0,0:10:26.50,0:10:28.26,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So you see what's happened.
Dialogue: 0,0:10:28.26,0:10:31.06,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The angels sinned.
Dialogue: 0,0:10:31.06,0:10:32.84,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Cast into hell.
Dialogue: 0,0:10:32.84,0:10:35.28,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Well, you say, wait,
Dialogue: 0,0:10:35.28,0:10:36.86,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,some of those angels are fallen
Dialogue: 0,0:10:36.86,0:10:38.65,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and they're running around still.
Dialogue: 0,0:10:38.65,0:10:40.47,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Well, it seems like Scripture teaches
Dialogue: 0,0:10:40.47,0:10:43.34,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that some were cast away.
Dialogue: 0,0:10:43.34,0:10:45.100,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Some are not allowed...
Dialogue: 0,0:10:45.100,0:10:50.27,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I'm not here to talk \Nabout the angels so much.
Dialogue: 0,0:10:50.27,0:10:52.63,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But, cast them into hell,
Dialogue: 0,0:10:52.63,0:10:55.31,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and notice this - the intermediate state,
Dialogue: 0,0:10:55.31,0:10:56.68,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,from the time they sinned
Dialogue: 0,0:10:56.68,0:10:58.51,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,until the judgment.
Dialogue: 0,0:10:58.51,0:11:01.19,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,"Committed them to \Nchains of gloomy darkness,
Dialogue: 0,0:11:01.19,0:11:04.69,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to be kept until the judgment."
Dialogue: 0,0:11:04.69,0:11:06.71,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,You see, they weren't judged immediately.
Dialogue: 0,0:11:06.71,0:11:10.03,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,They're put in a holding tank, as it were.
Dialogue: 0,0:11:10.03,0:11:12.87,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Now you say, ok, that's \Ntalking about angels.
Dialogue: 0,0:11:12.87,0:11:14.54,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,That's not talking about people.
Dialogue: 0,0:11:14.54,0:11:15.42,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Ok.
Dialogue: 0,0:11:15.42,0:11:17.67,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Peter talks about people when he gets
Dialogue: 0,0:11:17.67,0:11:20.14,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,down to verse 9.
Dialogue: 0,0:11:20.14,0:11:23.34,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,"The Lord knows how to rescue
Dialogue: 0,0:11:23.34,0:11:26.24,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the godly from trials."
Dialogue: 0,0:11:26.24,0:11:27.52,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And notice this.
Dialogue: 0,0:11:27.52,0:11:30.46,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,"And to keep the unrighteous
Dialogue: 0,0:11:30.46,0:11:36.51,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,under punishment until \Nthe day of judgment."
Dialogue: 0,0:11:36.51,0:11:37.68,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,You see that?
Dialogue: 0,0:11:37.68,0:11:39.70,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Not only angels, but men too,
Dialogue: 0,0:11:39.70,0:11:42.05,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,are kept under punishment.
Dialogue: 0,0:11:42.05,0:11:45.79,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,There is a place of punishment.
Dialogue: 0,0:11:45.79,0:11:47.71,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,There's a place of holding.
Dialogue: 0,0:11:47.71,0:11:49.20,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It doesn't say that they were
Dialogue: 0,0:11:49.20,0:11:51.32,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,immediately judged.
Dialogue: 0,0:11:51.32,0:11:58.49,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It says that they're being \Nkept until the judgment.
Dialogue: 0,0:11:58.49,0:12:00.22,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Does that make sense?
Dialogue: 0,0:12:00.22,0:12:03.80,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So, I think we see that
Dialogue: 0,0:12:03.80,0:12:07.37,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,no, there isn't more than one judgement.
Dialogue: 0,0:12:07.37,0:12:10.06,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,You have the judgment at the end.
Dialogue: 0,0:12:10.06,0:12:12.05,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,You know what's interesting.
Dialogue: 0,0:12:12.05,0:12:16.63,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Notice the parallel in \N9:27 and 9:28 of Hebrews.
Dialogue: 0,0:12:16.63,0:12:20.72,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It is man dies, then he's judged.
Dialogue: 0,0:12:20.72,0:12:26.50,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Christ offers Himself \Nonce, then He returns.
Dialogue: 0,0:12:26.50,0:12:28.61,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Well, in His offering, He died.
Dialogue: 0,0:12:28.61,0:12:33.63,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,In His return, we have the judgment.
Dialogue: 0,0:12:33.63,0:12:36.14,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,That's what Scripture teaches.
Dialogue: 0,0:12:36.14,0:12:39.95,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,To give you just a portion of Scripture
Dialogue: 0,0:12:39.95,0:12:43.49,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that gives this, I think,
Dialogue: 0,0:12:43.49,0:12:46.72,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,in very distinct clarity
Dialogue: 0,0:12:46.72,0:12:49.01,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,is Romans 2.
Dialogue: 0,0:12:49.01,0:12:52.81,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Why don't we look at one more text
Dialogue: 0,0:12:52.81,0:12:55.76,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,before we move on?
Dialogue: 0,0:12:55.76,0:13:05.82,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Romans 2
Dialogue: 0,0:13:05.82,0:13:11.45,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The Apostle Paul says in verse 1,
Dialogue: 0,0:13:11.45,0:13:13.49,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,"Therefore, you have \Nno excuse, O man,
Dialogue: 0,0:13:13.49,0:13:14.100,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,every one of you who judges.
Dialogue: 0,0:13:14.100,0:13:16.94,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,For in passing judgment on another,
Dialogue: 0,0:13:16.94,0:13:19.94,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,you condemn yourself, \Nbecause you, the judge
Dialogue: 0,0:13:19.94,0:13:22.27,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,practice the very same things."
Dialogue: 0,0:13:22.27,0:13:24.94,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Verse 2,
Dialogue: 0,0:13:24.94,0:13:27.41,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,"We know that the \Njudgment of God rightly falls
Dialogue: 0,0:13:27.41,0:13:30.30,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,on those who do such things.
Dialogue: 0,0:13:30.30,0:13:32.32,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Do you suppose, O man, you who judge
Dialogue: 0,0:13:32.32,0:13:33.94,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,those who do such things,
Dialogue: 0,0:13:33.94,0:13:35.84,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and yet do them yourself,
Dialogue: 0,0:13:35.84,0:13:39.27,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that you will escape the judgment of God?
Dialogue: 0,0:13:39.27,0:13:41.11,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Or do you presume on the riches
Dialogue: 0,0:13:41.11,0:13:42.100,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,of His kindness and forebearance
Dialogue: 0,0:13:42.100,0:13:45.24,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and patience, not \Nknowing that God's kindness
Dialogue: 0,0:13:45.24,0:13:49.05,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,is meant to lead you to repentance?"
Dialogue: 0,0:13:49.05,0:13:52.40,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Verse 5 is where Judgment \NDay is introduced to us.
Dialogue: 0,0:13:52.40,0:13:57.49,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,"But, because of your hard \Nand impenitent heart,
Dialogue: 0,0:13:57.49,0:14:00.55,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,you are storing up wrath for yourself
Dialogue: 0,0:14:00.55,0:14:03.09,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,on the day of wrath when God's righteous
Dialogue: 0,0:14:03.09,0:14:05.35,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,judgment will be revealed."
Dialogue: 0,0:14:05.35,0:14:07.10,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,See that? There's a day.
Dialogue: 0,0:14:07.10,0:14:08.56,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,There's not two days.
Dialogue: 0,0:14:08.56,0:14:10.11,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,There's not several days.
Dialogue: 0,0:14:10.11,0:14:12.10,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,There's one day.
Dialogue: 0,0:14:12.10,0:14:13.91,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And notice, on the one day,
Dialogue: 0,0:14:13.91,0:14:16.16,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,everybody's there.
Dialogue: 0,0:14:16.16,0:14:17.36,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Verse 6
Dialogue: 0,0:14:17.36,0:14:21.77,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,"He will render to each one \Naccording to his works.
Dialogue: 0,0:14:21.77,0:14:24.30,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,On the one hand, to those who by patience
Dialogue: 0,0:14:24.30,0:14:26.36,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and well doing seek for glory and honor
Dialogue: 0,0:14:26.36,0:14:28.71,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and immortality, He \Nwill give eternal life."
Dialogue: 0,0:14:28.71,0:14:30.72,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,There's the Christian on Judgment Day.
Dialogue: 0,0:14:30.72,0:14:32.84,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,"But for those who are self-seeking
Dialogue: 0,0:14:32.84,0:14:34.57,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and do not obey the truth,
Dialogue: 0,0:14:34.57,0:14:36.13,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but obey unrighteousness,
Dialogue: 0,0:14:36.13,0:14:38.06,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,there will be wrath and fury.
Dialogue: 0,0:14:38.06,0:14:40.37,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,There will be tribulation and distress
Dialogue: 0,0:14:40.37,0:14:42.91,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,for every human being who does evil.
Dialogue: 0,0:14:42.91,0:14:45.15,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The Jew first and also the Greek.
Dialogue: 0,0:14:45.15,0:14:47.83,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But glory and honor and peace
Dialogue: 0,0:14:47.83,0:14:49.35,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,for everyone who does good,
Dialogue: 0,0:14:49.35,0:14:51.43,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the Jew first and also the Greek,
Dialogue: 0,0:14:51.43,0:14:53.96,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,for God shows no partiality."
Dialogue: 0,0:14:53.96,0:14:55.50,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And you know, you may remember
Dialogue: 0,0:14:55.50,0:14:57.70,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Matthew 25 as well.
Dialogue: 0,0:14:57.70,0:14:59.30,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,What happens when Jesus comes?
Dialogue: 0,0:14:59.30,0:15:00.75,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,You remember the Son of Man,
Dialogue: 0,0:15:00.75,0:15:02.17,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,He comes and He sits.
Dialogue: 0,0:15:02.17,0:15:03.45,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,We looked at that \Nwhen we were
Dialogue: 0,0:15:03.45,0:15:05.10,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,going through the \Neschatology series.
Dialogue: 0,0:15:05.10,0:15:06.29,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,He sits down.
Dialogue: 0,0:15:06.29,0:15:08.95,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And He gathers the nations before Him,
Dialogue: 0,0:15:08.95,0:15:10.74,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and He divides them,
Dialogue: 0,0:15:10.74,0:15:13.74,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,like a shepherd divides
Dialogue: 0,0:15:13.74,0:15:15.21,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the sheep and the goats.
Dialogue: 0,0:15:15.21,0:15:16.53,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,You've got everybody there.
Dialogue: 0,0:15:16.53,0:15:17.75,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It's all at one time.
Dialogue: 0,0:15:17.75,0:15:19.68,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It's all in one day.
Dialogue: 0,0:15:19.68,0:15:21.78,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,You have the righteous \Nand the unrighteous,
Dialogue: 0,0:15:21.78,0:15:23.93,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and in the very last verse of Matthew 25,
Dialogue: 0,0:15:23.93,0:15:25.92,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,you have those on His right,
Dialogue: 0,0:15:25.92,0:15:27.94,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,they pass off into eternal life,
Dialogue: 0,0:15:27.94,0:15:29.16,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,those on his left,
Dialogue: 0,0:15:29.16,0:15:32.79,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,into eternal punishment.
Dialogue: 0,0:15:32.79,0:15:38.54,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So any questions or comments on that?
Dialogue: 0,0:15:38.54,0:15:39.63,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,(from the room)
Dialogue: 0,0:15:39.63,0:15:41.58,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So is it right to say that right now
Dialogue: 0,0:15:41.58,0:15:44.41,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the wicked are under the wrath of God
Dialogue: 0,0:15:44.41,0:15:46.21,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,in punishment?
Dialogue: 0,0:15:46.21,0:15:48.13,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Or I guess I'm just thinking as far as
Dialogue: 0,0:15:48.13,0:15:50.57,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Romans 2 how specifically it's saying
Dialogue: 0,0:15:50.57,0:15:54.57,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,storing up wrath for a day of wrath
Dialogue: 0,0:15:54.57,0:15:57.42,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,when God's righteous \Njudgment will be revealed.
Dialogue: 0,0:15:57.42,0:15:59.81,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It kind of makes it sound like,
Dialogue: 0,0:15:59.81,0:16:02.23,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,like the rich man, they're under flames
Dialogue: 0,0:16:02.23,0:16:04.40,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and torment right now,
Dialogue: 0,0:16:04.40,0:16:09.57,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but could that also be the wrath of God?
Dialogue: 0,0:16:09.57,0:16:12.22,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Tim: In Romans 1,
Dialogue: 0,0:16:12.22,0:16:13.74,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,we see that the wrath of God
Dialogue: 0,0:16:13.74,0:16:15.35,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,is already revealed.
Dialogue: 0,0:16:15.35,0:16:17.14,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And one of the ways it's revealed
Dialogue: 0,0:16:17.14,0:16:19.68,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,is God is giving up people
Dialogue: 0,0:16:19.68,0:16:22.20,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to hardness and to sin.
Dialogue: 0,0:16:22.20,0:16:24.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Because they are going after idols,
Dialogue: 0,0:16:24.99,0:16:29.20,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and they are going after \Nthese lusts and everything.
Dialogue: 0,0:16:29.20,0:16:31.16,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,God is giving them up.
Dialogue: 0,0:16:31.16,0:16:34.40,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And so, we know that man by nature,
Dialogue: 0,0:16:34.40,0:16:37.85,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,they're called children of wrath.
Dialogue: 0,0:16:37.85,0:16:40.65,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Obviously if you're put \Nin a place of punishment,
Dialogue: 0,0:16:40.65,0:16:44.44,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that's not like absent of wrath.
Dialogue: 0,0:16:44.44,0:16:47.22,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But I guess the picture that you have
Dialogue: 0,0:16:47.22,0:16:49.95,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,is not so much \Nexclusive to all other days.
Dialogue: 0,0:16:49.95,0:16:52.39,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Not like the Day of \NJudgment is the day of wrath
Dialogue: 0,0:16:52.39,0:16:54.27,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and there's no other days of wrath.
Dialogue: 0,0:16:54.27,0:16:56.70,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It's just a culmination of wrath
Dialogue: 0,0:16:56.70,0:17:02.07,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I think is the way you'd \Nwant to look at it.
Dialogue: 0,0:17:02.07,0:17:04.09,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Because clearly, we are under
Dialogue: 0,0:17:04.09,0:17:08.65,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the wrath of God by nature.
Dialogue: 0,0:17:08.65,0:17:14.89,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And clearly, being put in flames
Dialogue: 0,0:17:14.89,0:17:23.22,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,like Lazarus and Dives \Nyou have there in Luke 16.
Dialogue: 0,0:17:23.22,0:17:27.86,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And some people would \Nsay that's a parable,
Dialogue: 0,0:17:27.86,0:17:30.38,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but 2 Peter is no parable.
Dialogue: 0,0:17:30.38,0:17:34.07,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,2 Peter talks about them being kept
Dialogue: 0,0:17:34.07,0:17:36.22,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,under punishment.
Dialogue: 0,0:17:36.22,0:17:38.30,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,That punishment obviously
Dialogue: 0,0:17:38.30,0:17:40.07,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,is an expression of wrath.
Dialogue: 0,0:17:40.07,0:17:42.20,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Is it going to get worse?
Dialogue: 0,0:17:42.20,0:17:47.46,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Is the wrath going to increase?
Dialogue: 0,0:17:47.46,0:17:50.95,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The second death is the lake of fire.
Dialogue: 0,0:17:50.95,0:17:54.76,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And yet, if we take Dives in Luke 16
Dialogue: 0,0:17:54.76,0:17:57.26,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,as being an actual account,
Dialogue: 0,0:17:57.26,0:17:58.96,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,which I tend to think it is,
Dialogue: 0,0:17:58.96,0:18:01.04,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I don't think it's parabolic.
Dialogue: 0,0:18:01.04,0:18:02.69,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But some people do.
Dialogue: 0,0:18:02.69,0:18:05.26,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But if you ever get into that debate,
Dialogue: 0,0:18:05.26,0:18:07.52,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,you just run over to 2 Peter.
Dialogue: 0,0:18:07.52,0:18:11.10,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Some people want to argue for soul sleep.
Dialogue: 0,0:18:11.10,0:18:16.95,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,There's various things \Nthat people want to say.
Dialogue: 0,0:18:16.95,0:18:19.02,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I think there's wrath now
Dialogue: 0,0:18:19.02,0:18:21.37,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and I think it just culminates.
Dialogue: 0,0:18:21.37,0:18:22.38,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The only way out,
Dialogue: 0,0:18:22.38,0:18:24.30,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the only way to be \Nsaved from the wrath
Dialogue: 0,0:18:24.30,0:18:25.56,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,is to be under the blood,
Dialogue: 0,0:18:25.56,0:18:27.20,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,whether it's now or later.
Dialogue: 0,0:18:27.20,0:18:27.81,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,(from the room)
Dialogue: 0,0:18:27.81,0:18:29.56,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So whether there's \Na degree of wrath
Dialogue: 0,0:18:29.56,0:18:32.32,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that's greater than \Nthe lake of fire or not,
Dialogue: 0,0:18:32.32,0:18:37.86,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,... you don't want either.
Dialogue: 0,0:18:37.86,0:18:39.66,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Tim: Everybody that's already died
Dialogue: 0,0:18:39.66,0:18:41.34,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,before Judgment Day is obviously
Dialogue: 0,0:18:41.34,0:18:43.62,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,going to pulled from \Nthis place of punishment
Dialogue: 0,0:18:43.62,0:18:46.22,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and brought before the Judge,
Dialogue: 0,0:18:46.22,0:18:48.88,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and then Jesus describes that.
Dialogue: 0,0:18:48.88,0:18:51.42,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Depart from Me, you workers of iniquity.
Dialogue: 0,0:18:51.42,0:18:57.11,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And they're cast away
Dialogue: 0,0:18:57.11,0:19:00.34,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,into the outer darkness.
Dialogue: 0,0:19:00.34,0:19:05.46,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The lake of fire.
Dialogue: 0,0:19:05.46,0:19:10.97,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Ok. Any other questions or comments
Dialogue: 0,0:19:10.97,0:19:13.69,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,or observations about that?
Dialogue: 0,0:19:13.69,0:19:14.75,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,(from the room)
Dialogue: 0,0:19:14.75,0:19:17.38,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So then, that's for the unbeliever.
Dialogue: 0,0:19:17.38,0:19:20.71,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,For the believer then, when they die,
Dialogue: 0,0:19:20.71,0:19:22.11,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,they go to be with the Lord.
Dialogue: 0,0:19:22.11,0:19:24.54,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Tim: This day, you'll be \Nwith Me in paradise.
Dialogue: 0,0:19:24.54,0:19:28.37,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And yet, on Judgment Day, \Nthey are brought forward.
Dialogue: 0,0:19:28.37,0:19:32.18,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But for them, it's like it \Nsays there in Romans 2,
Dialogue: 0,0:19:32.18,0:19:35.78,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,there's eternal life.
Dialogue: 0,0:19:35.78,0:19:39.08,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Well done, good and faithful servant.
Dialogue: 0,0:19:39.08,0:19:39.93,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,(from the room)
Dialogue: 0,0:19:39.93,0:19:41.17,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So they're with the Lord,
Dialogue: 0,0:19:41.17,0:19:43.18,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and then there is a bodily resurrection...
Dialogue: 0,0:19:43.18,0:19:44.66,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Tim: That's the thing,
Dialogue: 0,0:19:44.66,0:19:47.66,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the bodily resurrection \Ndoes not take place
Dialogue: 0,0:19:47.66,0:19:50.32,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,until the judgment.
Dialogue: 0,0:19:50.32,0:19:53.91,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,There's this resurrection of judgment.
Dialogue: 0,0:19:53.91,0:19:57.60,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,There's a resurrection of life.
Dialogue: 0,0:19:57.60,0:20:01.67,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And that happens on the last day.
Dialogue: 0,0:20:01.67,0:20:04.36,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,That happens when we get to the end.
Dialogue: 0,0:20:04.36,0:20:06.68,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And so, there's mysteries.
Dialogue: 0,0:20:06.68,0:20:08.69,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,There's no question about it.
Dialogue: 0,0:20:08.69,0:20:10.94,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,This day you'll be with Me in paradise.
Dialogue: 0,0:20:10.94,0:20:12.43,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,There was Moses and Elijah up
Dialogue: 0,0:20:12.43,0:20:14.15,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,on the Mount of Transfiguration.
Dialogue: 0,0:20:14.15,0:20:16.25,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It's like the disciples \Nknew who they were.
Dialogue: 0,0:20:16.25,0:20:18.03,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Well, were they body-less?
Dialogue: 0,0:20:18.03,0:20:19.27,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Were they phantoms?
Dialogue: 0,0:20:19.27,0:20:21.10,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,No, that's not the idea that you get.
Dialogue: 0,0:20:21.10,0:20:25.73,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But ok, what's the deal with Elijah?
Dialogue: 0,0:20:25.73,0:20:27.49,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Where's his body at?
Dialogue: 0,0:20:27.49,0:20:29.29,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,He didn't even die.
Dialogue: 0,0:20:29.29,0:20:30.47,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I mean, I don't know.
Dialogue: 0,0:20:30.47,0:20:32.73,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I don't have all the answers,\Nand all the answers aren't given to us.
Dialogue: 0,0:20:32.73,0:20:34.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But we do know this,
Dialogue: 0,0:20:34.00,0:20:37.82,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that the general resurrection
Dialogue: 0,0:20:37.82,0:20:40.11,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,is going to happen there at the last day.
Dialogue: 0,0:20:40.11,0:20:44.95,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And a classic text on \Nthat is found in John 5.
Dialogue: 0,0:20:44.95,0:20:57.21,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,If you want to look there quickly.
Dialogue: 0,0:20:57.21,0:21:02.86,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,John 5
Dialogue: 0,0:21:02.86,0:21:08.63,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,A tremendous chapter of Scripture.
Dialogue: 0,0:21:08.63,0:21:12.78,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Anyway, if you go to John 5:25.
Dialogue: 0,0:21:12.78,0:21:14.53,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,"Truly, truly, I say to you,
Dialogue: 0,0:21:14.53,0:21:22.71,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,an hour is coming and is now here
Dialogue: 0,0:21:22.71,0:21:24.88,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,when the dead will hear the voice..."
Dialogue: 0,0:21:24.88,0:21:26.24,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It's now here.
Dialogue: 0,0:21:26.24,0:21:28.33,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,When He was talking.
Dialogue: 0,0:21:28.33,0:21:30.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,"When the dead will hear \Nthe voice of the Son of God."
Dialogue: 0,0:21:30.99,0:21:32.75,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,That's salvation.
Dialogue: 0,0:21:32.75,0:21:34.98,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,That's hearing His voice.
Dialogue: 0,0:21:34.98,0:21:37.80,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Having ears to hear the Gospel
Dialogue: 0,0:21:37.80,0:21:39.28,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and to believe and trust Him.
Dialogue: 0,0:21:39.28,0:21:41.53,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,"Those who hear will live."
Dialogue: 0,0:21:41.53,0:21:43.76,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,They're given eternal \Nlife when they believe.
Dialogue: 0,0:21:43.76,0:21:44.83,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,"For as the Father \Nhas life in Himself,
Dialogue: 0,0:21:44.83,0:21:46.35,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,so He has granted the Son also
Dialogue: 0,0:21:46.35,0:21:48.18,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to have life in Himself,
Dialogue: 0,0:21:48.18,0:21:49.68,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and He has given Him authority
Dialogue: 0,0:21:49.68,0:21:51.06,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to execute judgment because
Dialogue: 0,0:21:51.06,0:21:52.52,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,He is the Son of Man."
Dialogue: 0,0:21:52.52,0:21:53.79,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And He says this,
Dialogue: 0,0:21:53.79,0:21:57.93,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,He's going to argue one \Ncase with another case.
Dialogue: 0,0:21:57.93,0:21:59.75,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,"Do not marvel at this."
Dialogue: 0,0:21:59.75,0:22:02.12,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Don't marvel that when I speak,
Dialogue: 0,0:22:02.12,0:22:05.77,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I'm able to bring \Npeople to life spiritually.
Dialogue: 0,0:22:05.77,0:22:07.38,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,"For an hour is coming when all
Dialogue: 0,0:22:07.38,0:22:09.70,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,who are in the tomb..."
Dialogue: 0,0:22:09.70,0:22:11.52,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,All.
Dialogue: 0,0:22:11.52,0:22:13.16,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Not just good; not just bad.
Dialogue: 0,0:22:13.16,0:22:16.88,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,All.
Dialogue: 0,0:22:16.88,0:22:19.14,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,"...who are in the tombs, \Nwill hear His voice,
Dialogue: 0,0:22:19.14,0:22:20.48,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and come out.
Dialogue: 0,0:22:20.48,0:22:22.25,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,On the one hand, those \Nwho have done good,
Dialogue: 0,0:22:22.25,0:22:23.48,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to the resurrection of life,
Dialogue: 0,0:22:23.48,0:22:25.12,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,those who have done evil,
Dialogue: 0,0:22:25.12,0:22:28.25,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to the resurrection of judgment."
Dialogue: 0,0:22:28.25,0:22:31.36,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So you see that reality there.
Dialogue: 0,0:22:31.36,0:22:37.40,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,One general resurrection \Nof the living and the dead.
Dialogue: 0,0:22:37.40,0:22:42.24,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,One general judgment, so says Romans 2
Dialogue: 0,0:22:42.24,0:22:47.09,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and Matthew 25 and so on.