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Dialogue: 0,0:00:02.41,0:00:04.42,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The Call of Jesus
Dialogue: 0,0:00:05.47,0:00:09.65,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Welcome to this lesson 24:\NHow To Grow Up.
Dialogue: 0,0:00:09.97,0:00:13.90,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Last time we talked about the different \Nspiritual levels we see in the Bible.
Dialogue: 0,0:00:13.90,0:00:17.64,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,We talked about being babies,\Nnewborn,
Dialogue: 0,0:00:17.64,0:00:20.52,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,how to grow up and become\Nchildren in the faith,
Dialogue: 0,0:00:20.52,0:00:23.59,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and then become parents in the faith.
Dialogue: 0,0:00:24.32,0:00:28.82,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,We need to go out and find\Na person of peace, as Jesus is talking about,
Dialogue: 0,0:00:28.82,0:00:32.11,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,something we've looked at \Nin this series "The Call of Jesus".
Dialogue: 0,0:00:32.11,0:00:35.21,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But when we find that person of peace
Dialogue: 0,0:00:35.21,0:00:38.90,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,we need to know \Nhow to share the gospel with them,
Dialogue: 0,0:00:38.90,0:00:42.13,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,so they can be truly born again.
Dialogue: 0,0:00:42.29,0:00:47.25,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But, we also need to help them\Nto grow up.
Dialogue: 0,0:00:47.56,0:00:51.81,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,We need to help them to become\Nmature in Christ.
Dialogue: 0,0:00:52.21,0:00:55.51,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Like in a family, what we see in a family\Nis that...
Dialogue: 0,0:00:55.51,0:00:57.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,In a family there should be babies.
Dialogue: 0,0:00:58.26,0:00:59.69,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,In the natural family.
Dialogue: 0,0:00:59.69,0:01:03.30,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But they should not remain\Nas babies.
Dialogue: 0,0:01:03.44,0:01:05.61,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,They should grow up.
Dialogue: 0,0:01:05.83,0:01:08.74,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And by time, they should, actually,\Ngrow up so much
Dialogue: 0,0:01:08.74,0:01:13.73,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that they leave the home\Nand go out and get their own family.
Dialogue: 0,0:01:14.08,0:01:17.64,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And now we are not parents\Nbut grandparents.
Dialogue: 0,0:01:17.64,0:01:21.91,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,As it is in the natural,\NGod wanted to be in the spiritual.
Dialogue: 0,0:01:22.84,0:01:26.48,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,When I take a look at the church\Ntoday, I just want to say:
Dialogue: 0,0:01:26.48,0:01:30.67,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It is sad to see how far away \Nwe have come from
Dialogue: 0,0:01:30.67,0:01:33.20,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,what God wants us to be,
Dialogue: 0,0:01:33.20,0:01:38.94,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,how few that are really growing up\Nand seeing good fruit
Dialogue: 0,0:01:38.94,0:01:41.11,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,in their everyday life.
Dialogue: 0,0:01:41.11,0:01:43.85,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,There are so many people today\Nin churches who just,
Dialogue: 0,0:01:43.85,0:01:50.62,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,sad to say, continue being\Nspiritual babies the rest of their life.
Dialogue: 0,0:01:50.76,0:01:53.64,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Why? Why is it like that?
Dialogue: 0,0:01:53.90,0:01:57.09,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Could it be that we lack\Ndiscipleship?
Dialogue: 0,0:01:57.26,0:01:59.71,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I believe that is one of it.
Dialogue: 0,0:02:00.18,0:02:03.52,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But the truth is also that...
Dialogue: 0,0:02:04.29,0:02:09.72,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,many people in the church\Nare not born again yet.
Dialogue: 0,0:02:09.93,0:02:14.39,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I want to read a quote here from my book \N"The Call of Jesus" in this chapter.
Dialogue: 0,0:02:14.69,0:02:19.64,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,"When a person is truly born again,\Nyou will see it in their life.
Dialogue: 0,0:02:19.64,0:02:25.02,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,There will be fruit in their life\Nthat will show they are a new creation.
Dialogue: 0,0:02:25.02,0:02:28.21,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,When there is fruit in a person's life,
Dialogue: 0,0:02:28.21,0:02:31.63,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,they need milk so they can grow up\Nand mature;
Dialogue: 0,0:02:31.63,0:02:36.84,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,however, if the fruit in not there,\Nthat means they are not born again,
Dialogue: 0,0:02:36.84,0:02:41.42,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and they need something much\Nstronger then milk."
Dialogue: 0,0:02:41.76,0:02:45.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,When a person is born again,
Dialogue: 0,0:02:45.00,0:02:48.62,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,we looked at last time,\Nthat person needs milk.
Dialogue: 0,0:02:48.74,0:02:51.37,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But if a person is not truly\Nborn again,
Dialogue: 0,0:02:51.37,0:02:54.74,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,they need something \Nmuch stronger then milk.
Dialogue: 0,0:02:54.74,0:02:56.74,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,What is that?\NBlood.
Dialogue: 0,0:02:56.86,0:03:01.19,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The blood of Jesus.\NThey need to be born again.
Dialogue: 0,0:03:01.19,0:03:05.05,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Because when they are born again,
Dialogue: 0,0:03:05.40,0:03:08.38,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the life is being transformed,
Dialogue: 0,0:03:08.38,0:03:12.58,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,not from outside in,\Nbut from inside out.
Dialogue: 0,0:03:12.58,0:03:17.90,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,1 John 3:6-10 is saying this:
Dialogue: 0,0:03:17.98,0:03:21.10,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,"No one who lives in Him \Nkeeps on sinning.
Dialogue: 0,0:03:21.10,0:03:25.24,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,No one who continues to sin\Nhas either seen Him or known Him.
Dialogue: 0,0:03:25.24,0:03:29.02,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Dear children, do not let anyone\Nlead you astray.
Dialogue: 0,0:03:29.02,0:03:33.68,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The one who does what is right\Nis righteous, just as He is righteous.
Dialogue: 0,0:03:33.68,0:03:36.83,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The one who does what is sinful\Nis of the devil,
Dialogue: 0,0:03:36.83,0:03:40.04,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,because the devil has been sinning\Nfrom the beginning.
Dialogue: 0,0:03:40.04,0:03:44.96,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The reason the Son of God appeared\Nwas to destroy the works of the devil.
Dialogue: 0,0:03:44.96,0:03:49.82,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,No one who is born of God will\Ncontinue in sin,
Dialogue: 0,0:03:49.82,0:03:54.14,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,because God's seed remains in them;
Dialogue: 0,0:03:54.14,0:03:59.22,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,they cannot go on sinning,\Nbecause they have been born of God.
Dialogue: 0,0:03:59.22,0:04:04.44,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,This is how we know who's the children\Nof God and who's the children of the devil;
Dialogue: 0,0:04:04.44,0:04:09.61,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,anyone who does not do what is right\Nis not God's children,
Dialogue: 0,0:04:09.61,0:04:14.86,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,nor is anyone who does not love\Ntheir brothers or sisters."
Dialogue: 0,0:04:15.05,0:04:19.54,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,What we see here is...\Nthe Bible is very, very clear
Dialogue: 0,0:04:19.54,0:04:24.98,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that everyone who is truly born again\Ndo not go on sinning.
Dialogue: 0,0:04:24.98,0:04:31.07,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The seed of God is inside of them\Nand they cannot go on sinning.
Dialogue: 0,0:04:31.07,0:04:36.08,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,We also read that they love their brothers, \Nthose who are born again.
Dialogue: 0,0:04:36.38,0:04:39.71,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,If those things are missing \Nin a person's life,
Dialogue: 0,0:04:39.71,0:04:41.24,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,if people are living in sin,
Dialogue: 0,0:04:41.24,0:04:45.62,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,if people don't have the love\Nto be with other believers...
Dialogue: 0,0:04:45.82,0:04:49.14,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Why? Why is it missing?
Dialogue: 0,0:04:49.14,0:04:52.94,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Could it be because they are not\Ntruly born again?
Dialogue: 0,0:04:52.94,0:04:57.11,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,You know we can know a tree\Nby its fruit.
Dialogue: 0,0:04:57.11,0:04:59.22,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And if this is not there,
Dialogue: 0,0:04:59.22,0:05:05.11,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,if the longing to live a holy life,\Nif the desire to love their brothers
Dialogue: 0,0:05:05.11,0:05:10.01,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and being with other people\Nis missing in a person's life,
Dialogue: 0,0:05:11.05,0:05:15.25,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,you cannot disciple a person like that\Ninto maturity. Why?
Dialogue: 0,0:05:15.69,0:05:18.77,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Because they are not born again yet.
Dialogue: 0,0:05:18.92,0:05:23.40,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And therefore, when we talk about\Nhow to grow children up,
Dialogue: 0,0:05:23.40,0:05:28.21,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,what we need to always start with\Nis the gospel.
Dialogue: 0,0:05:28.21,0:05:31.51,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,We need to always go back to the gospel\Nand keep it simple.
Dialogue: 0,0:05:31.51,0:05:35.96,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Preach the gospel, even to those\Nwho come to churches,
Dialogue: 0,0:05:35.96,0:05:39.49,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,even to those who come\Ninto your fellowships.
Dialogue: 0,0:05:39.49,0:05:46.38,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Because if you have a person\Nand you see something is missing,
Dialogue: 0,0:05:47.05,0:05:52.28,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,what is missing is just revealing\Na deeper problem.
Dialogue: 0,0:05:52.28,0:05:53.75,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And what is that?
Dialogue: 0,0:05:53.84,0:05:55.39,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,That is the root.
Dialogue: 0,0:05:56.23,0:05:58.56,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,You know we can know a tree\Nby its fruit.
Dialogue: 0,0:05:58.56,0:06:01.81,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,If a tree, for example, produces \Noranges,
Dialogue: 0,0:06:01.81,0:06:05.41,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and you want the tree to produce\Napples instead,
Dialogue: 0,0:06:05.53,0:06:09.86,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the solution is not to take down\Nall the oranges
Dialogue: 0,0:06:09.86,0:06:14.30,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and tell the tree: \NYou have to stop producing oranges!
Dialogue: 0,0:06:14.30,0:06:19.55,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,You need to start producing\Napples! What is wrong with you, tree?
Dialogue: 0,0:06:19.65,0:06:23.48,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,No, the tree just produces \Nwhat it is.
Dialogue: 0,0:06:23.48,0:06:25.94,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Orange tree produces oranges.
Dialogue: 0,0:06:25.94,0:06:28.19,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Apple tree produces apples.
Dialogue: 0,0:06:28.19,0:06:32.96,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,A tree produces what it is.
Dialogue: 0,0:06:33.10,0:06:34.72,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The same is with a person.
Dialogue: 0,0:06:34.72,0:06:38.84,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,If you have a person\Nwho is living in sin,
Dialogue: 0,0:06:38.84,0:06:42.23,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,if you have a person\Nwho is not longing for the fellowship,
Dialogue: 0,0:06:42.41,0:06:44.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,then I want to encourage you...
Dialogue: 0,0:06:45.10,0:06:49.49,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,before you go deep, deep, deep in\Nand try to disciple them,
Dialogue: 0,0:06:49.49,0:06:52.56,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and draw them out, and:\NCome on, you need to stop sinning.
Dialogue: 0,0:06:52.56,0:06:54.91,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Come on, you need to come \Nto the fellowship.
Dialogue: 0,0:06:54.91,0:06:56.31,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Come on, you need to...
Dialogue: 0,0:06:56.31,0:06:58.82,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,because you'll get exhausted in that,
Dialogue: 0,0:06:58.82,0:07:02.71,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,than rather take the time to sit down \Nwith them and share the gospel.
Dialogue: 0,0:07:02.71,0:07:06.14,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Because when people truly \Nget that life... Hallelujah!
Dialogue: 0,0:07:06.14,0:07:08.91,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,They don't need anyone \Naround them to:
Dialogue: 0,0:07:09.23,0:07:12.85,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Come on! You have to live holy!\NCome on! You have to have the fellowship!
Dialogue: 0,0:07:12.98,0:07:14.03,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And I remember that.
Dialogue: 0,0:07:14.03,0:07:18.08,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I was 19 years old \Nwhen I gave my life to God.
Dialogue: 0,0:07:18.55,0:07:21.88,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I was the first one in my family\Nwho gave his life to God.
Dialogue: 0,0:07:21.88,0:07:25.52,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I had no, like families, and many friends.
Dialogue: 0,0:07:25.52,0:07:29.64,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I had one friend who was a Christian.\NI had no one else.
Dialogue: 0,0:07:30.41,0:07:35.42,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Right away, without even really \Nbeing in church ever,
Dialogue: 0,0:07:36.16,0:07:38.84,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,when I got born again,\Nthe first thing happened...
Dialogue: 0,0:07:38.84,0:07:39.77,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,What was that?
Dialogue: 0,0:07:39.77,0:07:41.80,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It was what we read.
Dialogue: 0,0:07:41.80,0:07:47.28,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,One of the first things that\Nhappened was I could not go on sinning.
Dialogue: 0,0:07:47.40,0:07:52.17,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I could not. Like, when I did things\NI was used to do,
Dialogue: 0,0:07:52.17,0:07:55.50,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that were sin, I just felt it inside of me.
Dialogue: 0,0:07:55.50,0:07:58.12,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The seed of God was inside of me.
Dialogue: 0,0:07:58.12,0:08:00.19,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I could not go on sinning.
Dialogue: 0,0:08:00.19,0:08:04.14,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And I know for my sake,\NI did not need a lifted finger and say:
Dialogue: 0,0:08:04.14,0:08:06.98,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Hey, you are not allowed to do this.\NYou have to do this. You have to do this.
Dialogue: 0,0:08:06.98,0:08:10.82,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,No. I did not need it. Why?\NBecause the seed was inside of me.
Dialogue: 0,0:08:11.05,0:08:12.89,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,God was there.
Dialogue: 0,0:08:12.97,0:08:14.34,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,As we read before.
Dialogue: 0,0:08:14.50,0:08:20.54,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Another thing was: I was longing \Nfor fellowship with my new families.
Dialogue: 0,0:08:20.65,0:08:23.82,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I was longing for fellowship.
Dialogue: 0,0:08:24.88,0:08:28.83,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,A guy like me, who was born again,\Nwhen I was longing for fellowship,
Dialogue: 0,0:08:28.83,0:08:32.29,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I needed more than just one day a week...
Dialogue: 0,0:08:32.43,0:08:35.74,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to go in and just meet,\NSunday was not enough.
Dialogue: 0,0:08:35.85,0:08:37.89,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I needed more.
Dialogue: 0,0:08:38.32,0:08:42.24,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And I wanted to live holy, \Nbut in the beginning I fell
Dialogue: 0,0:08:42.24,0:08:44.71,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and I did wrong things,\Nand I felt condemned,
Dialogue: 0,0:08:44.71,0:08:47.66,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and there I also needed somebody\Naround me,
Dialogue: 0,0:08:47.66,0:08:51.15,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,more than one day a week.
Dialogue: 0,0:08:51.40,0:08:55.20,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And in my life God gave me\Nsomebody.
Dialogue: 0,0:08:55.54,0:08:58.80,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,He gave me my father-in-law
Dialogue: 0,0:08:58.95,0:09:02.55,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,who became my spiritual father,\Nwho was there for me.
Dialogue: 0,0:09:02.66,0:09:08.03,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And my father-in-law helped me\Nto grow up.
Dialogue: 0,0:09:11.59,0:09:13.66,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,He never sat down with me\Nand said:
Dialogue: 0,0:09:13.66,0:09:16.92,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Torben, now we will have a teaching.\NThis week we are talking about this,
Dialogue: 0,0:09:16.92,0:09:19.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,next week we are talking about this,\Nthird week we are talking about this...
Dialogue: 0,0:09:19.99,0:09:24.64,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,No, my teaching,\Nthe teaching he gave me, milk he gave me,
Dialogue: 0,0:09:24.64,0:09:28.56,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,was on the couch, with him, \Nsitting beside me.
Dialogue: 0,0:09:28.71,0:09:31.52,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I was sitting there with my Bible,\Nand I was hungry.
Dialogue: 0,0:09:31.52,0:09:35.05,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And I asked a lot of questions:\NWhat about this? What about this?
Dialogue: 0,0:09:35.05,0:09:37.16,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,What about this? What about this?
Dialogue: 0,0:09:37.16,0:09:39.27,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And when I was fighting \Nhe was always there.
Dialogue: 0,0:09:39.27,0:09:42.46,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,When I was doubting and\Nasking questions - he was there.
Dialogue: 0,0:09:43.33,0:09:46.85,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,This is what a newborn believer needs.
Dialogue: 0,0:09:47.03,0:09:51.24,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,They don't need to just come to a meeting.
Dialogue: 0,0:09:51.36,0:09:53.31,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,They need family.
Dialogue: 0,0:09:53.66,0:09:56.29,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,They need 24/7...
Dialogue: 0,0:09:56.43,0:10:02.51,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,somebody who is there,\Nwho is ready to share life with them.
Dialogue: 0,0:10:02.71,0:10:06.91,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And this is how we really see\Nchildren grow up and become strong.
Dialogue: 0,0:10:06.91,0:10:11.85,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,In 1 Corinthians 4:14-16\NPaul is saying this:
Dialogue: 0,0:10:12.01,0:10:16.62,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,"I am writing this not to shame you\Nbut to warn you as my dear children.
Dialogue: 0,0:10:16.62,0:10:20.73,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Even if you had ten thousand\Nguardians in Christ,
Dialogue: 0,0:10:20.73,0:10:23.61,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,you do not have many fathers,
Dialogue: 0,0:10:23.61,0:10:27.81,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,for in Jesus Christ I became \Nyour father through the gospel.
Dialogue: 0,0:10:27.81,0:10:31.25,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Therefore I urge you to imitate me."
Dialogue: 0,0:10:31.96,0:10:36.94,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,There was many guardians, or many leaders, \Nlet's say like that, in the church today.
Dialogue: 0,0:10:37.16,0:10:39.63,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But there are not many fathers.
Dialogue: 0,0:10:39.92,0:10:43.02,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Paul was really a father for\Nsome of those people,
Dialogue: 0,0:10:43.02,0:10:48.90,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and I encourage you out there, when it comes \Nto how to grow people up in Christ,
Dialogue: 0,0:10:49.68,0:10:53.81,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,when a person is a newborn and\Nexperience Christ,
Dialogue: 0,0:10:53.81,0:10:57.61,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,they need more than to just be invited\Nto a meeting.
Dialogue: 0,0:10:57.96,0:11:01.54,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,They long for fellowship.\NThey want to live holy.
Dialogue: 0,0:11:01.54,0:11:04.53,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,They need somebody who can just\Nbe there for them,
Dialogue: 0,0:11:04.53,0:11:08.12,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,somebody who can share life\Nwith them,
Dialogue: 0,0:11:08.12,0:11:11.51,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,somebody who can love them.
Dialogue: 0,0:11:11.82,0:11:15.76,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,They need more then just to be\Ninvited to a church.
Dialogue: 0,0:11:15.76,0:11:20.32,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,They need to be invited \Nto a cup of coffee, or for a dinner.
Dialogue: 0,0:11:20.67,0:11:22.98,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And this is what I encourage you\Nto do.
Dialogue: 0,0:11:22.98,0:11:26.28,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,When you start to work with people...
Dialogue: 0,0:11:26.69,0:11:31.14,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and you start to see people come to Christ,
Dialogue: 0,0:11:31.38,0:11:33.25,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,open up your home.
Dialogue: 0,0:11:33.25,0:11:35.22,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Invite them for a dinner.
Dialogue: 0,0:11:35.22,0:11:38.91,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Sit down with them in the sofa.\NTalk about life.
Dialogue: 0,0:11:38.91,0:11:44.79,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And there answer some of those questions \Npeople often don't get answered in the church.
Dialogue: 0,0:11:44.79,0:11:51.20,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I know when I was a newborn believer\Nand sat in my father-in-law's to be house,
Dialogue: 0,0:11:52.93,0:11:55.19,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,he did not put up a teaching,\Nas I said,
Dialogue: 0,0:11:55.19,0:11:58.78,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but he answered those questions\NI had in that moment.
Dialogue: 0,0:11:58.78,0:12:00.72,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Hey, I'm fighting with this.\NWhat about this?
Dialogue: 0,0:12:00.72,0:12:02.50,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,What about this?\NWhat about this?
Dialogue: 0,0:12:02.50,0:12:05.28,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And he gave me so much more,\Nto have somebody
Dialogue: 0,0:12:05.28,0:12:08.43,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to answer those questions \NI had in that moment,
Dialogue: 0,0:12:08.43,0:12:11.86,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,than going to hear a sermon 45 minutes,
Dialogue: 0,0:12:11.86,0:12:15.13,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,with something that was not \Nworking in my life.
Dialogue: 0,0:12:15.66,0:12:19.71,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But I want to say, it is not always easy \Nto find those right people,
Dialogue: 0,0:12:19.71,0:12:24.20,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,people who are mature,\Nwho want to help people.
Dialogue: 0,0:12:25.18,0:12:28.29,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It is not easy outside the church\Nor inside the church.
Dialogue: 0,0:12:28.29,0:12:33.25,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I remember some years ago, I was \Nin a city and I led some people to Christ.
Dialogue: 0,0:12:33.25,0:12:37.41,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,There was no church in that city,\Nbut there was a small group
Dialogue: 0,0:12:37.41,0:12:41.27,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,of Christians gathering.\NThere were six Christians gathering.
Dialogue: 0,0:12:41.27,0:12:45.56,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And I tried to take some of those\Nnew believers into that group,
Dialogue: 0,0:12:46.48,0:12:50.59,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but it was not easy, because in that\Nsmall group there was six people,
Dialogue: 0,0:12:50.59,0:12:53.21,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and when I looked at them, there were\Ntwo who were amazing,
Dialogue: 0,0:12:53.21,0:12:57.93,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,who loved Jesus, amazing, on fire,\Nit just came out of them always.
Dialogue: 0,0:12:58.20,0:13:02.23,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Another two were more neutral,\Nand like: who are they?
Dialogue: 0,0:13:02.74,0:13:07.46,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,They are good and not bad,\Nbut they love Jesus, so it's fine.
Dialogue: 0,0:13:07.46,0:13:10.78,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But then there were two that were\Nworse poison ever.
Dialogue: 0,0:13:10.78,0:13:17.33,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Two very religious people who just\Ntake out every life out of a new believer.
Dialogue: 0,0:13:18.80,0:13:22.47,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It was very difficult for me, because how \Ndo I bring people to that small group,
Dialogue: 0,0:13:22.47,0:13:25.03,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and I wanted them to connect\Nwith those two,
Dialogue: 0,0:13:25.03,0:13:27.76,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,or maybe those two, \Nbut not with those two.
Dialogue: 0,0:13:28.00,0:13:29.75,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And it's not easy.
Dialogue: 0,0:13:30.31,0:13:36.19,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Since I had those experiences,\NI stopped just...
Dialogue: 0,0:13:36.90,0:13:38.63,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,taking people to church,
Dialogue: 0,0:13:38.63,0:13:44.64,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,because I did never know who\Nthey will meet in church.
Dialogue: 0,0:13:44.86,0:13:47.04,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So, instead of just saying:\Ncome to church
Dialogue: 0,0:13:47.04,0:13:49.23,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and let them connect with everyone,
Dialogue: 0,0:13:49.23,0:13:52.07,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,because one of the first one\NI really led to church,
Dialogue: 0,0:13:52.07,0:13:54.16,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,she connected with wrong people\Nin church,
Dialogue: 0,0:13:54.16,0:13:56.47,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,people who were living lukewarm,
Dialogue: 0,0:13:56.47,0:14:00.10,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and they ended up going to city,\Nand that girl fell away again,
Dialogue: 0,0:14:00.10,0:14:02.45,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,because they were out drinking.
Dialogue: 0,0:14:02.64,0:14:04.72,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,We see so many things today.
Dialogue: 0,0:14:05.53,0:14:08.17,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It's better, instead of just\Nleading people to church,
Dialogue: 0,0:14:08.17,0:14:11.53,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to just lead them to one or two\Npeople who are on fire.
Dialogue: 0,0:14:11.88,0:14:14.84,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And I hope that is you,\Nthat you are on fire.
Dialogue: 0,0:14:14.84,0:14:19.19,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,That you will take the time\Nto meet with people.
Dialogue: 0,0:14:19.19,0:14:24.42,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Or, if you cannot, than find somebody\Nelse who live the life, who's on fire,
Dialogue: 0,0:14:24.42,0:14:28.78,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and try to introduce those new believers\Nto them.
Dialogue: 0,0:14:28.78,0:14:32.83,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Somebody who can help,\Nsomebody who can take care of them,
Dialogue: 0,0:14:32.83,0:14:36.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,somebody who can help them grow up.
Dialogue: 0,0:14:37.02,0:14:41.04,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And I believe this is how it should be\Nfor all of us.
Dialogue: 0,0:14:42.38,0:14:46.13,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I know it's not always easy,\Nbecause who to connect with,
Dialogue: 0,0:14:46.13,0:14:49.32,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but I've also seen it again and again\Nthat God is in control.
Dialogue: 0,0:14:49.32,0:14:50.85,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So, if you don't have anyone,\N
Dialogue: 0,0:14:50.85,0:14:55.38,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,then start to pray that God will send \Nthe right one to those people.
Dialogue: 0,0:14:55.68,0:14:59.14,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And this is what He did with me.\NWhen I look at my own life,
Dialogue: 0,0:14:59.14,0:15:02.24,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I did not have anyone who could help me, \Nwho could take care of me,
Dialogue: 0,0:15:02.50,0:15:05.79,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but then God gave me my father-in-law.
Dialogue: 0,0:15:06.10,0:15:10.44,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It was not just accident.\NIt was God who ordained it.
Dialogue: 0,0:15:10.62,0:15:12.94,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It was God who took care of it.
Dialogue: 0,0:15:13.15,0:15:16.58,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I remember one night we were\Nin a meeting, a prophetic meeting.
Dialogue: 0,0:15:18.38,0:15:24.28,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,A prophet called him up and said:\Nyou have one son.
Dialogue: 0,0:15:24.28,0:15:26.57,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,He said: No, I have three daughters.\NYou have a son.
Dialogue: 0,0:15:26.57,0:15:28.62,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,No, I have three daughters.\NYou have a son.
Dialogue: 0,0:15:28.76,0:15:31.10,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,No, I have three daughters.\NYou have a son.
Dialogue: 0,0:15:31.10,0:15:35.78,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,He's like a son for you and your\Njob is to be there for your son.
Dialogue: 0,0:15:36.01,0:15:38.16,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And he knew who he was \Ntalking about.
Dialogue: 0,0:15:38.47,0:15:39.58,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Me.
Dialogue: 0,0:15:39.99,0:15:44.54,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So, God has called my father-in-law\Nto be there for me.
Dialogue: 0,0:15:45.00,0:15:47.67,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,My father-in-law is not a big minister.
Dialogue: 0,0:15:47.77,0:15:51.65,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,He's not somebody who's\Nspeaking in churches and who's all over.
Dialogue: 0,0:15:52.50,0:15:56.30,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,This is not also what you need\Nand what other people out there need.
Dialogue: 0,0:15:56.48,0:16:01.81,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,We do not need a big minister who \Ndoesn't have time to take care of people.
Dialogue: 0,0:16:01.94,0:16:04.32,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,We need people who have time.
Dialogue: 0,0:16:04.57,0:16:08.90,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,We need people who can just give\Nwhat God has given them.
Dialogue: 0,0:16:09.35,0:16:12.85,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And I share much more about that\Nin my book "The Call of Jesus",
Dialogue: 0,0:16:12.85,0:16:17.09,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,where I talk about how\Nwe can be there for other people.
Dialogue: 0,0:16:17.09,0:16:20.94,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And if we don't have anyone ourselves,\Nwhat we can do,
Dialogue: 0,0:16:20.94,0:16:25.18,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and how we can pray and ask God\Nto lead us to somebody.
Dialogue: 0,0:16:26.08,0:16:32.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So I want to say this:\Nwhen we start to work with discipleship,
Dialogue: 0,0:16:32.00,0:16:36.33,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the best discipleship is to become\Nfamily and friends with people,
Dialogue: 0,0:16:36.33,0:16:39.10,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to walk with people,\Nto share life with people.
Dialogue: 0,0:16:39.10,0:16:42.97,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,To be there especially for those \Nnew people who come to faith.
Dialogue: 0,0:16:43.19,0:16:46.63,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The best teaching how do you get\Npeople to grow up
Dialogue: 0,0:16:46.63,0:16:50.32,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,is just to sit down with them\Nin a sofa, over the coffee table,
Dialogue: 0,0:16:50.32,0:16:53.43,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,listen to their life,\Nlisten to their story,
Dialogue: 0,0:16:53.43,0:16:56.30,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,listen to what they are fighting with\Nright now,
Dialogue: 0,0:16:56.30,0:16:58.51,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,what are they struggling with,
Dialogue: 0,0:16:58.72,0:17:00.69,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,what questions do they have,
Dialogue: 0,0:17:00.87,0:17:04.85,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,what did they read in the Bible\Nduring the week, they don't understand,
Dialogue: 0,0:17:05.05,0:17:08.14,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and then be for them and\Nanswer their questions.
Dialogue: 0,0:17:08.14,0:17:10.76,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And then pray for them.\NAnd then help them.
Dialogue: 0,0:17:11.24,0:17:14.55,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,This is how we get people to grow up.
Dialogue: 0,0:17:14.70,0:17:19.71,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Not to just invite them to a meeting\Nand give them 45 minutes of teaching.
Dialogue: 0,0:17:20.42,0:17:24.70,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,No. Invite them to your home.\NGo to their home.
Dialogue: 0,0:17:24.96,0:17:26.87,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Be there for them.
Dialogue: 0,0:17:27.00,0:17:29.56,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And I encourage you,\Nif you start to do that,
Dialogue: 0,0:17:29.56,0:17:32.89,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,if everyone start to do that,\Nwhen we reach people,
Dialogue: 0,0:17:32.89,0:17:37.43,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and we take the time, and again,\Nwe don't need a big minister.
Dialogue: 0,0:17:37.43,0:17:40.53,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,You don't have to be a pastor\Nwho's doing all of it.
Dialogue: 0,0:17:40.69,0:17:43.49,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It's something you and me can do,\Neach of us.
Dialogue: 0,0:17:43.49,0:17:46.69,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,We can help people.\NWe can take care of them.
Dialogue: 0,0:17:47.61,0:17:49.59,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So this is how it is.
Dialogue: 0,0:17:49.83,0:17:54.37,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Be there. Love people.\NInvest in them. Spend time with them.
Dialogue: 0,0:17:54.60,0:17:58.09,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And this is how we get people to grow up.
Dialogue: 0,0:17:58.65,0:18:01.14,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And then you will see fruit in their life.
Dialogue: 0,0:18:01.98,0:18:08.10,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Next time I'm going to do a video here\Ncalled "Dear Pastors and Leaders",
Dialogue: 0,0:18:08.10,0:18:12.37,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,because next time I want to talk to all of you \Nwho are pastors and leaders out there.
Dialogue: 0,0:18:12.37,0:18:14.12,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I'm not against the church.
Dialogue: 0,0:18:14.89,0:18:17.08,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But I want to challenge you.
Dialogue: 0,0:18:17.08,0:18:20.64,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I want to challenge you to really\Ntake the call of Jesus
Dialogue: 0,0:18:20.64,0:18:22.79,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and give it to the people in the church,
Dialogue: 0,0:18:22.79,0:18:27.04,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and see a movement from God,\Nthere where you are.
Dialogue: 0,0:18:27.04,0:18:28.87,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So, I look forward to see you next time.
Dialogue: 0,0:18:28.87,0:18:29.69,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Bye-bye!
Dialogue: 0,0:18:32.07,0:18:33.57,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The Call of Jesus