1 00:00:30,820 --> 00:00:33,618 I am going to talk about consciousness. 2 00:00:33,619 --> 00:00:34,870 Why consciousness? 3 00:00:34,871 --> 00:00:37,487 It is curiously a neglected subject 4 00:00:37,488 --> 00:00:41,204 both in our scientific and our philosophical culture. 5 00:00:41,205 --> 00:00:42,421 Why is that curious? 6 00:00:42,422 --> 00:00:47,581 It's most important aspect of our lives for a very simple logical reason, 7 00:00:47,582 --> 00:00:51,398 namely, it is a necessary condition on anything being important in our lives 8 00:00:51,399 --> 00:00:52,695 that we are conscious. 9 00:00:52,696 --> 00:00:55,855 [If] you care about science, philosophy, music, art, whatever, 10 00:00:55,856 --> 00:00:58,982 it is no good if you are a zombie or in a coma, right? 11 00:00:58,983 --> 00:01:01,451 So consciousness is number one. 12 00:01:01,452 --> 00:01:05,370 That's the first reason [that] we are talking about it. 13 00:01:05,372 --> 00:01:08,638 The second reason is that when people do get interested in it, 14 00:01:08,639 --> 00:01:10,036 as I think they should, 15 00:01:10,037 --> 00:01:12,471 they tend to say the most appalling things! 16 00:01:12,472 --> 00:01:15,078 I am not going to attempt to conceal from you 17 00:01:15,079 --> 00:01:18,140 some of the most appalling things that have been said about it; 18 00:01:18,141 --> 00:01:20,739 and even when they are not saying appalling things 19 00:01:20,740 --> 00:01:23,381 [and] they are really trying to do serious research, 20 00:01:23,382 --> 00:01:26,684 well, it's been slow, progress has been slow. 21 00:01:26,685 --> 00:01:30,507 Let me tell you a little bit about some of the difficulties. 22 00:01:30,508 --> 00:01:32,941 When I first got interested in this, I thought 23 00:01:32,942 --> 00:01:35,480 it's a straightforward problem in biology 24 00:01:35,481 --> 00:01:37,752 [so] let's get these brain stabbers to get busy 25 00:01:37,753 --> 00:01:39,955 and figure out how it works in the brain. 26 00:01:39,956 --> 00:01:43,450 I went over to UCSF and talked to all heavy-duty neurologists there 27 00:01:43,451 --> 00:01:45,202 and they showed some impatience, 28 00:01:45,203 --> 00:01:49,343 as scientists often do when you ask them embarrassing questions, 29 00:01:49,344 --> 00:01:50,997 and the thing that struck me 30 00:01:50,998 --> 00:01:54,451 is that a very famous neurobiologist said exasperated: 31 00:01:54,452 --> 00:01:57,927 "Look, in my discipline, it's OK to be interested in consciousness, 32 00:01:57,928 --> 00:02:00,077 but get tenure first! 33 00:02:00,078 --> 00:02:01,582 (Laughter) 34 00:02:01,583 --> 00:02:04,246 I've been working on this for a long time 35 00:02:04,247 --> 00:02:06,640 and now you might actually get tenure 36 00:02:06,641 --> 00:02:09,815 by working on consciousness, and if so, that's a real step forward! 37 00:02:09,816 --> 00:02:13,204 Why then, is this curious reluctance 38 00:02:13,205 --> 00:02:15,593 and curious hostility to consciousness? 39 00:02:15,594 --> 00:02:18,983 I think it's a combination of two features of our intellectual culture 40 00:02:18,984 --> 00:02:22,120 that like to think they are opposing each other 41 00:02:22,121 --> 00:02:25,892 but in fact they share a common set of assumptions. 42 00:02:25,893 --> 00:02:28,844 Consciousness is not a part of the physical world 43 00:02:28,845 --> 00:02:32,719 but it's part of the spiritual world, it belongs to the soul, 44 00:02:32,720 --> 00:02:35,685 and the soul is not a part of the physical world. 45 00:02:35,686 --> 00:02:38,698 That's the tradition of God, the soul, and immortality. 46 00:02:38,699 --> 00:02:41,507 There is another tradition that is opposed to this 47 00:02:41,508 --> 00:02:43,480 but excepts the worst assumption. 48 00:02:43,481 --> 00:02:47,282 That tradition thinks we are heavy-duty scientific materialists, 49 00:02:47,283 --> 00:02:50,361 consciousness is not a part of the physical world, 50 00:02:50,362 --> 00:02:53,284 either it doesn't exist at all or it is something else, 51 00:02:53,285 --> 00:02:55,663 a computer program or some damn fool thing. 52 00:02:55,664 --> 00:02:56,690 (Laughter) 53 00:02:56,691 --> 00:02:58,809 But in any case, it's not part of science! 54 00:02:58,810 --> 00:03:01,853 I used to get in an argument that really gave me a stomachache. 55 00:03:01,854 --> 00:03:02,972 Here is how it went: 56 00:03:02,973 --> 00:03:06,792 "Science is objective, consciousness is subjective, 57 00:03:06,793 --> 00:03:10,089 therefore, there cannot be a science of consciousness." 58 00:03:10,090 --> 00:03:11,287 I love that argument 59 00:03:11,288 --> 00:03:14,102 because it has got a wonderful fallacy of ambiguity 60 00:03:14,103 --> 00:03:15,917 over the concept of objectivity. 61 00:03:15,918 --> 00:03:18,216 And I have already used up too much time 62 00:03:18,217 --> 00:03:20,515 just to clearing my breath, sort of speak, 63 00:03:20,516 --> 00:03:22,127 but I want to get to that. 64 00:03:24,017 --> 00:03:27,952 These twin traditions are paralyzing us, 65 00:03:27,953 --> 00:03:30,978 and it's very hard to get out of these twin traditions, 66 00:03:30,979 --> 00:03:33,824 and I have only one real message in this lecture, 67 00:03:33,825 --> 00:03:35,320 and that is consciousness 68 00:03:35,321 --> 00:03:38,396 is a biological phenomenon, like photosynthesis, 69 00:03:38,397 --> 00:03:42,602 digestion, mitosis, and all that biological phenomena. 70 00:03:42,603 --> 00:03:44,289 And once you accept that, 71 00:03:44,290 --> 00:03:46,235 most, though not all, 72 00:03:46,236 --> 00:03:48,181 of the hard problems about consciousness 73 00:03:48,182 --> 00:03:49,579 simply evaporate! 74 00:03:49,580 --> 00:03:51,613 And I will go through some of them. 75 00:03:51,614 --> 00:03:53,679 I promised you to tell you 76 00:03:53,680 --> 00:03:56,425 some of the outrageous things said about consciousness, 77 00:03:56,426 --> 00:04:00,812 and because of shortage of time, I will only mention four of the worst. 78 00:04:00,813 --> 00:04:04,976 One: "Consciousness does not exist. 79 00:04:04,986 --> 00:04:06,981 It is an illusion, like sunsets." 80 00:04:06,982 --> 00:04:11,610 Science has shown sunsets and rainbows are illusions, 81 00:04:11,611 --> 00:04:13,579 so consciousness is an illusion. 82 00:04:13,580 --> 00:04:17,079 Two: "Maybe it exists, but it is really something else, 83 00:04:17,079 --> 00:04:20,963 it's a computer program running in the brain." 84 00:04:20,964 --> 00:04:25,337 Three: "No, the only thing that exists is really behavior!" 85 00:04:25,338 --> 00:04:28,588 It's embarrassing how influential behaviorism was, 86 00:04:28,589 --> 00:04:30,380 but I will get back to that. 87 00:04:30,381 --> 00:04:32,397 Four: "Maybe consciousness exists, 88 00:04:32,398 --> 00:04:34,756 but it can't make any difference to the world. 89 00:04:34,757 --> 00:04:37,164 How could spirituality move anything?" 90 00:04:37,165 --> 00:04:39,412 And whenever somebody tells me that, I think: 91 00:04:39,413 --> 00:04:42,343 "You want to see if spirituality moves something? Watch!" 92 00:04:42,344 --> 00:04:46,719 I decide consciously to raise my arm and the damn thing goes up. 93 00:04:46,720 --> 00:04:48,450 (Laughter) 94 00:04:48,451 --> 00:04:50,034 (Applause) 95 00:04:50,040 --> 00:04:54,951 Furthermore, we do not say: "It's a bit like the weather in Geneva, 96 00:04:54,952 --> 00:04:57,678 some days it goes up and some days it doesn't go up." 97 00:04:57,679 --> 00:04:58,558 No! It goes up 98 00:04:58,559 --> 00:05:00,526 when I right damn well want it to! 99 00:05:00,527 --> 00:05:02,518 I will tell you how that is possible. 100 00:05:02,519 --> 00:05:06,156 Now, I haven't yet given you a definition, 101 00:05:06,157 --> 00:05:08,644 you can't do this if you don't give a definition. 102 00:05:08,645 --> 00:05:11,572 People always say: "Consciousness is very hard to define." 103 00:05:11,573 --> 00:05:13,329 I think it is rather easy to define 104 00:05:13,330 --> 00:05:15,939 if you are not trying to give a scientific definition. 105 00:05:15,940 --> 00:05:18,137 We are not ready for a scientific definition, 106 00:05:18,138 --> 00:05:20,103 but here is the common sense definition: 107 00:05:20,104 --> 00:05:24,515 consciousness consists of all those states of feelings, or sensations, or awareness; 108 00:05:24,516 --> 00:05:28,472 it begins in the morning when you wake up from a dream, 109 00:05:28,473 --> 00:05:31,513 and it goes on all day, until you fall asleep, or die, 110 00:05:31,514 --> 00:05:33,994 or otherwise become unconscious. 111 00:05:33,995 --> 00:05:37,143 Dreams are a form of consciousness on this definition. 112 00:05:37,144 --> 00:05:39,859 That's the common sense definition, that's our target; 113 00:05:39,860 --> 00:05:43,601 if you are not talking about that, you are not talking about consciousness. 114 00:05:43,602 --> 00:05:45,375 But they think:"Well, that's it! 115 00:05:45,376 --> 00:05:46,905 That's an awful problem! 116 00:05:46,906 --> 00:05:50,615 How can such thing exist as part of the real world?" 117 00:05:50,616 --> 00:05:53,355 And this, if you have ever had a philosophy course, 118 00:05:53,356 --> 00:05:55,945 this is known as the famous "mind-body problem." 119 00:05:55,946 --> 00:05:59,545 I think that has a simple solution to it and I am going to give it to you. 120 00:05:59,546 --> 00:06:00,346 And here it is: 121 00:06:00,347 --> 00:06:04,345 all of our conscious states, without exception, are caused 122 00:06:04,346 --> 00:06:08,345 by lower-level neurobiological processes in the brain. 123 00:06:08,346 --> 00:06:13,085 And they are realized in the brain as higher-level or system features. 124 00:06:13,086 --> 00:06:17,425 It is about as mysterious as the liquidity of water, right? 125 00:06:17,426 --> 00:06:19,235 The liquidity is not an extra juice 126 00:06:19,236 --> 00:06:21,925 squirted out by the H2O molecules, 127 00:06:21,926 --> 00:06:25,135 it's a condition that the system is in. 128 00:06:25,136 --> 00:06:29,865 And just as the jar full of water can go from liquid to solid, 129 00:06:29,866 --> 00:06:32,055 depending on the behavior of the molecules, 130 00:06:32,056 --> 00:06:34,825 so your brain can go from a state of being conscious 131 00:06:34,826 --> 00:06:36,675 to a state of being unconscious, 132 00:06:36,676 --> 00:06:39,715 depending on the behavior of the molecules. 133 00:06:39,716 --> 00:06:43,909 The famous "mind-body problem" is that simple. 134 00:06:44,970 --> 00:06:47,250 But now, we get into some harder questions. 135 00:06:48,760 --> 00:06:52,759 Let's specify the exact features of consciousness 136 00:06:52,760 --> 00:06:56,229 so that we can then answer those four objections that I made to it. 137 00:06:56,230 --> 00:07:00,229 Well, the first feature is it is real and irreducible. 138 00:07:00,230 --> 00:07:02,229 You can't get rid of it. 139 00:07:02,230 --> 00:07:06,699 You see, the distinction between reality and illusion 140 00:07:06,700 --> 00:07:11,399 is the distinction between how things consciously seem to us 141 00:07:11,400 --> 00:07:13,239 and how they really are. 142 00:07:13,240 --> 00:07:14,979 If consciousness seems like... 143 00:07:14,980 --> 00:07:18,819 I like the French "arch", it seems like there's an arch in the sky, 144 00:07:18,820 --> 00:07:22,269 or it seems like the sun is setting over the mountains, 145 00:07:22,270 --> 00:07:24,039 it consciously seems to us 146 00:07:24,040 --> 00:07:25,799 but that's not really happening. 147 00:07:25,800 --> 00:07:27,209 But for that distinction, 148 00:07:27,210 --> 00:07:30,269 between how things consciously seem and how they really are, 149 00:07:30,270 --> 00:07:34,539 you can't make that distinction for the very existence of consciousness. 150 00:07:34,540 --> 00:07:38,119 Because we are the very existence of consciousness: 151 00:07:38,120 --> 00:07:41,249 if it consciously seems to you, that you are conscious, 152 00:07:41,250 --> 00:07:42,579 you are conscious! 153 00:07:42,580 --> 00:07:43,759 (Laughter) 154 00:07:43,760 --> 00:07:46,179 I mean if a bunch of experts come to me and say: 155 00:07:46,180 --> 00:07:49,759 "We are heavy-duty neurobiologists and we've done a study on you Searle," 156 00:07:49,760 --> 00:07:51,909 and we are convinced you are not conscious. 157 00:07:51,910 --> 00:07:54,699 You're a very cleverly constructed robot." 158 00:07:54,700 --> 00:07:57,299 I don't think: " Well, maybe these guys are right!" 159 00:07:57,300 --> 00:07:59,119 I don't think that for a moment! 160 00:07:59,120 --> 00:08:02,009 Because, I mean, Descartes may have made a lot of mistakes 161 00:08:02,010 --> 00:08:03,359 but he is right about this: 162 00:08:03,360 --> 00:08:06,219 you cannot doubt the existence of your own consciousness. 163 00:08:06,220 --> 00:08:08,349 That's the first feature of consciousness. 164 00:08:08,350 --> 00:08:09,799 It is real and irreducible. 165 00:08:09,800 --> 00:08:13,249 You cannot get rid of it by showing that it's an illusion, 166 00:08:13,250 --> 00:08:16,329 in a way that you can with other standard illusions. 167 00:08:16,330 --> 00:08:18,599 The second feature is this one 168 00:08:18,600 --> 00:08:21,139 that has been such a source of trouble to us. 169 00:08:21,140 --> 00:08:23,369 And that is all of our conscious states 170 00:08:23,370 --> 00:08:26,299 have this qualitative character to them; 171 00:08:26,300 --> 00:08:28,879 there is something that it feels like to drink beer, 172 00:08:28,880 --> 00:08:31,679 which is not what feels like to do your income tax, 173 00:08:31,680 --> 00:08:32,859 or listen to music. 174 00:08:32,860 --> 00:08:37,109 And this qualitative field automatically generates a third feature, 175 00:08:37,110 --> 00:08:40,889 namely, conscious states are by definition subjective, 176 00:08:40,890 --> 00:08:42,979 in the sense that they only exist 177 00:08:42,980 --> 00:08:45,679 as experienced by some human or animal subjects, 178 00:08:45,680 --> 00:08:47,809 some self that experiences them. 179 00:08:47,810 --> 00:08:50,329 Maybe we will be able to build a conscious machine, 180 00:08:50,330 --> 00:08:52,789 [but] since we don't know how our brains do it, 181 00:08:52,790 --> 00:08:56,619 we are not in the position, so far, to build a conscious machine. 182 00:08:56,620 --> 00:08:59,419 Okay, another feature of consciousness 183 00:08:59,420 --> 00:09:03,419 is that it comes in unified conscious fields. 184 00:09:03,420 --> 00:09:06,059 I don't just have the sight of people in front of me, 185 00:09:06,060 --> 00:09:07,379 and the sound of my voice, 186 00:09:07,380 --> 00:09:09,669 and the weight of my shoes against the floor, 187 00:09:09,670 --> 00:09:14,289 but they occur to me as part of one single great conscious field 188 00:09:14,290 --> 00:09:16,449 that stretches forward and backward. 189 00:09:16,450 --> 00:09:20,449 That is the key to understanding the enormous power of consciousness. 190 00:09:20,450 --> 00:09:23,739 And we have not been able to do that in a robot. 191 00:09:23,740 --> 00:09:26,419 The disappointment of robotics derives from the fact 192 00:09:26,420 --> 00:09:28,859 that we don't know how to make a conscious robot, 193 00:09:28,860 --> 00:09:31,729 so we don't have a machine that can do this kind of thing. 194 00:09:31,730 --> 00:09:34,489 The next feature of consciousness 195 00:09:34,490 --> 00:09:37,249 after this marvelous, unified conscious field 196 00:09:37,250 --> 00:09:40,159 is that it functions causally in our behavior. 197 00:09:40,160 --> 00:09:43,359 I gave you a scientific demonstration by raising my hand, 198 00:09:43,360 --> 00:09:45,229 but how is that possible? 199 00:09:45,230 --> 00:09:48,709 How can it be that this thought in my brain 200 00:09:48,710 --> 00:09:50,856 can move material objects? 201 00:09:50,857 --> 00:09:52,836 Well, I will tell you the answer. 202 00:09:52,837 --> 00:09:54,636 --we don't know the detailed answer, 203 00:09:54,637 --> 00:09:56,656 but we know the basic part of the answer-- 204 00:09:56,657 --> 00:09:59,416 and that is there are sequences of neuron firings 205 00:09:59,417 --> 00:10:03,306 and they terminate where the acetylcholine is secreted 206 00:10:03,307 --> 00:10:05,496 at the axon end-plates of the motor neurons, 207 00:10:05,497 --> 00:10:07,666 sorry to use philosophical terminology here. 208 00:10:07,667 --> 00:10:09,136 (Laughter) 209 00:10:09,137 --> 00:10:10,306 But when it is secreted 210 00:10:10,307 --> 00:10:12,406 at the axon end-plates of the motor neurons, 211 00:10:12,407 --> 00:10:15,056 a lot of wonderful things happen in the ion channels 212 00:10:15,057 --> 00:10:16,676 and the damned arm goes up. 213 00:10:16,677 --> 00:10:18,536 And think of what I have told you. 214 00:10:18,537 --> 00:10:20,046 One and the same event, 215 00:10:20,047 --> 00:10:23,226 my conscious decision to raise my hand 216 00:10:23,227 --> 00:10:24,846 has a level of description 217 00:10:24,847 --> 00:10:28,086 where it has all of these touchy-feely, spiritual qualities, 218 00:10:28,087 --> 00:10:29,826 --it's a thought in my brain-- 219 00:10:29,827 --> 00:10:30,926 but at the same time, 220 00:10:30,927 --> 00:10:32,856 it's busy secreting acetylcholine 221 00:10:32,857 --> 00:10:34,657 and doing all sorts of other things 222 00:10:34,670 --> 00:10:37,019 as it makes its way from the motor cortex 223 00:10:37,020 --> 00:10:40,379 down through the nerves fibers and the arm. 224 00:10:40,380 --> 00:10:44,379 Now, what that tells us is that our traditional vocabularies 225 00:10:44,380 --> 00:10:47,509 for discussing these issues, are totally obsolete! 226 00:10:47,510 --> 00:10:49,189 One and the same event, 227 00:10:49,190 --> 00:10:52,369 has a level of description where's neurobiological, 228 00:10:52,370 --> 00:10:54,729 and another level of description where's mental, 229 00:10:54,730 --> 00:10:56,049 and that's a single event 230 00:10:56,050 --> 00:10:57,479 and that's how nature works, 231 00:10:57,480 --> 00:11:01,549 that's how is possible for consciousness to function causally. 232 00:11:01,550 --> 00:11:03,959 Now, with that in mind, 233 00:11:03,960 --> 00:11:07,259 with going through these various features of consciousness, 234 00:11:07,260 --> 00:11:10,259 let's go back and answer some of those early objections. 235 00:11:10,260 --> 00:11:13,889 Well, the first one I said, was consciousness doesn't exist, 236 00:11:13,890 --> 00:11:14,850 it's an illusion. 237 00:11:14,851 --> 00:11:16,429 Well, I've already answered that 238 00:11:16,430 --> 00:11:18,619 I don't think we need to worry about that. 239 00:11:18,620 --> 00:11:21,160 But the second one, had an incredible influence 240 00:11:21,160 --> 00:11:22,919 and may still be around, and that is 241 00:11:22,920 --> 00:11:26,019 if consciousness exists, it's really something else; 242 00:11:26,020 --> 00:11:28,679 it's really a digital computer program 243 00:11:28,680 --> 00:11:30,219 running in your brain, 244 00:11:30,220 --> 00:11:32,969 and that's what we need to do to create consciousness, 245 00:11:32,970 --> 00:11:34,399 get the right program. 246 00:11:34,400 --> 00:11:36,779 Forget about the hardware, any hardware will do, 247 00:11:36,780 --> 00:11:40,275 provided is rich enough and stable enough to carry the program. 248 00:11:40,276 --> 00:11:41,939 Now, we know that that's wrong. 249 00:11:41,940 --> 00:11:44,989 I mean, anybody who's thought about computers at all 250 00:11:44,990 --> 00:11:46,789 can see that that's wrong. 251 00:11:46,790 --> 00:11:49,929 Because computation is defined as symbol manipulation, 252 00:11:49,930 --> 00:11:52,989 usually thought as 0s and 1s, but any symbols will do. 253 00:11:52,990 --> 00:11:54,309 You get an algorithm 254 00:11:54,310 --> 00:11:59,519 that you can program in a binary code 255 00:11:59,520 --> 00:12:04,209 and that's the defining trait of the computer program. 256 00:12:04,210 --> 00:12:08,209 But we know that's purely syntactical, that's symbolic, 257 00:12:08,210 --> 00:12:11,429 we know that actual human consciousness 258 00:12:11,430 --> 00:12:14,429 has something more than that, it's got a content, 259 00:12:14,430 --> 00:12:16,859 in addition to the syntax, it's got a semantics. 260 00:12:16,860 --> 00:12:18,509 I made that argument, 261 00:12:18,510 --> 00:12:20,869 --oh, my god! I don't want to think about it!-- 262 00:12:20,870 --> 00:12:22,259 more that 30 years ago, 263 00:12:22,260 --> 00:12:25,199 but there is a deeper argument implicit in what I've told you. 264 00:12:25,200 --> 00:12:28,130 And I want to tell you that argument briefly, and that is: 265 00:12:28,631 --> 00:12:32,630 consciousness creates an observer independent reality. 266 00:12:32,631 --> 00:12:36,290 It creates a reality of money, property, government, 267 00:12:36,291 --> 00:12:39,470 marriage, CERN, conferences, 268 00:12:39,471 --> 00:12:43,540 cocktail parties, and summer vacations. 269 00:12:43,541 --> 00:12:45,850 And all of those are creations of consciousness. 270 00:12:45,851 --> 00:12:48,310 Their existence is observer-relative. 271 00:12:48,311 --> 00:12:50,730 It's only relative to conscious agents; 272 00:12:50,731 --> 00:12:52,680 that a piece of paper is a money, 273 00:12:52,681 --> 00:12:55,230 or a bunch of buildings is a university. 274 00:12:55,231 --> 00:12:58,130 Now, ask yourselves about computation. 275 00:12:58,131 --> 00:12:59,570 Is that absolute? 276 00:12:59,571 --> 00:13:02,100 Like force, and mass, and gravitational attraction? 277 00:13:02,101 --> 00:13:03,960 Or is it observer-relative? 278 00:13:03,961 --> 00:13:07,960 Well, some computations are intrinsic. 279 00:13:07,961 --> 00:13:09,750 I add two plus two to get four, 280 00:13:09,751 --> 00:13:12,550 that's going on no matter what anybody thinks. 281 00:13:12,551 --> 00:13:16,550 But when I hold out my pocket calculator and do the calculation, 282 00:13:16,551 --> 00:13:18,560 the only intrinsic phenomenon 283 00:13:18,561 --> 00:13:21,680 is the electronic circuit and its behavior. 284 00:13:21,681 --> 00:13:23,810 That's the only absolute phenomenon. 285 00:13:23,811 --> 00:13:25,760 All the rest is interpreted by us. 286 00:13:25,761 --> 00:13:29,760 Computation only exists relative to consciousness. 287 00:13:29,761 --> 00:13:32,640 Either a conscious agent is carrying the computation 288 00:13:32,641 --> 00:13:34,160 or it has a piece of machinery 289 00:13:34,161 --> 00:13:37,040 that admits of a computational interpretation. 290 00:13:37,041 --> 00:13:39,240 That doesn't mean computation is arbitrary, 291 00:13:39,241 --> 00:13:41,520 I spent a lot of money on this hardware, 292 00:13:41,521 --> 00:13:43,690 but we have this persistent confusion 293 00:13:43,691 --> 00:13:46,230 between objectivity and subjectivity 294 00:13:46,231 --> 00:13:48,010 as features of reality, 295 00:13:48,011 --> 00:13:50,280 and objectivity and subjectivity 296 00:13:50,281 --> 00:13:52,560 as features of claims. 297 00:13:52,561 --> 00:13:55,660 And the bottom line of this part of my talk, is this: 298 00:13:55,661 --> 00:13:59,660 you can have a completely objective science, 299 00:13:59,661 --> 00:14:02,590 a science where you make objectively true claims 300 00:14:02,591 --> 00:14:05,400 about a domain whose existence is subjective, 301 00:14:05,401 --> 00:14:08,860 whose existence is in the human brain, 302 00:14:08,861 --> 00:14:12,860 consisting of subjective states or sensations, or feeling, or awareness. 303 00:14:12,861 --> 00:14:16,860 So the objection, that you can't have an objective science of consciousness 304 00:14:16,861 --> 00:14:20,860 because it's subjective, and science is objective, 305 00:14:20,861 --> 00:14:24,320 that's a pun, that's a bad pun on objectivity and subjectivity. 306 00:14:24,321 --> 00:14:29,380 You can make objective claims about a domain that is subjective 307 00:14:29,381 --> 00:14:30,840 in its mode of existence, 308 00:14:30,841 --> 00:14:34,470 and indeed, that's what neurologists do. 309 00:14:34,471 --> 00:14:37,020 You have patients that actually suffered pains 310 00:14:37,021 --> 00:14:39,720 and you are trying to get an objective science of that. 311 00:14:39,721 --> 00:14:41,720 I promised to refute all these guys, 312 00:14:41,721 --> 00:14:43,941 but I don't have an awful lot of time left, 313 00:14:43,961 --> 00:14:46,310 but let me refute a couple more of them. 314 00:14:46,311 --> 00:14:50,600 I said that behaviorism ought to be one of the great embarrassments 315 00:14:50,601 --> 00:14:52,130 of our intellectual culture, 316 00:14:52,131 --> 00:14:54,610 because it's refuted the moment you think about it. 317 00:14:54,611 --> 00:14:58,020 Your mental states are identical with your behavior? 318 00:14:58,021 --> 00:15:00,920 Well, think about the distinction between feeling a pain, 319 00:15:00,921 --> 00:15:02,820 and engaging in pain behavior. 320 00:15:02,821 --> 00:15:04,780 I mean, I won't demonstrate pain behavior 321 00:15:04,781 --> 00:15:07,440 but I can tell you I am not having any pains right now! 322 00:15:07,441 --> 00:15:08,930 So it's an obvious mistake. 323 00:15:08,931 --> 00:15:10,420 Why did they make the mistake? 324 00:15:10,421 --> 00:15:12,111 The mistake was, and you go back 325 00:15:12,121 --> 00:15:15,380 and ready the literature on this, you can see this over and over, 326 00:15:15,381 --> 00:15:17,960 they think [that] if you accept 327 00:15:17,961 --> 00:15:21,390 the irreducible existence of consciousness, 328 00:15:21,391 --> 00:15:23,010 you're giving up on science, 329 00:15:23,011 --> 00:15:24,940 you're giving up on 300 years 330 00:15:24,941 --> 00:15:27,890 of human progress and human hope and all the rest of it. 331 00:15:27,891 --> 00:15:30,900 And the message I want to leave you with is 332 00:15:30,901 --> 00:15:35,400 consciousness has to become accepted as a genuine biological phenomenon, 333 00:15:35,401 --> 00:15:38,590 as much subject to scientific analysis 334 00:15:38,591 --> 00:15:41,360 as any other phenomena in biology, or, for that matter, 335 00:15:41,361 --> 00:15:42,690 the rest of science! 336 00:15:42,691 --> 00:15:43,870 Thank you very much. 337 00:15:43,871 --> 00:15:45,161 (Applause)