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A lesson in turning adversaries into allies

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    In the summer of 2014,
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    I found myself sitting across from a man
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    who, by every definition, was my enemy.
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    His name was Craig Watts,
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    and he's a chicken factory farmer.
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    My career is devoted
    to protecting farmed animals
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    and ending factory farming.
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    And up until this point in my life,
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    I had spent every waking moment
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    standing up against everything
    this man stood for,
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    and now, I was in his living room.
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    The day I met Craig Watts
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    he had been raising chickens for 22 years
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    for a company called Perdue,
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    the fourth largest chicken company
    in the entire country.
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    And as a young man,
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    he had yearned for this way
    to stay on the land
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    in one of the poorest
    counties in the state.
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    So when the chicken industry came to town,
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    he thought, "This is a dream come true."
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    He took a quarter
    of a million dollar loan out,
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    and he built these chicken houses.
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    Perdue would give him a flock,
    he'd raise them,
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    and each flock he'd get paid,
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    and then he'd pay off
    in small increments that loan,
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    like a mortgage.
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    But pretty soon, the chickens got sick.
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    It's a factory farm, after all,
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    there are 25,000 chickens
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    that are stuffed wall-to-wall,
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    living on their own feces,
    breathing ammonia-laden air.
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    And when chickens get sick,
    some of them die.
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    And you don't get paid for dead chickens,
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    and Craig started to struggle
    to pay off his loan,
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    he realized he made a mistake,
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    but he was all but an indentured
    servant at this stage.
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    When I met him,
    he was at a breaking point.
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    The payments seemed never-ending.
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    As did the death,
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    despair and illness of his chickens.
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    Now, if we humans tried to think
    of some super unjust,
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    unfair, filthy and cruel food system,
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    we could not have thought
    of anything worse than factory farming.
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    Eighty billion farmed animals
    around the world annually
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    are raised and slaughtered.
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    They're stuffed in cages and warehouses
    never to see the light of day.
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    And that's not just a problem
    for those farmed animals.
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    Animal agriculture,
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    it accounts for more
    greenhouse gas emissions
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    than all of the planes, trains
    and automobiles put together.
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    And one third of our arable land is used
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    to grow feed to feed
    factory-farmed animals,
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    rather than ourselves.
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    And all that land is sprayed
    with immeasurable chemicals.
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    And ecologically important habitats,
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    like the Amazon,
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    are cut down and are burnt,
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    all so we can feed
    and house farmed animals.
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    By the time my three kids grow up,
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    there's very unlikely to be polar bears,
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    Sumatran elephants, orangutans.
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    In my lifetime,
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    the number of birds, amphibians,
    reptiles and mammals has halved.
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    And the main culprit
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    is our global appetite
    for meat, dairy and eggs.
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    And for me, up until this point,
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    the villain was Craig Watts.
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    And as I sat there in his living room,
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    my fear and my anger
    turned into something else.
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    Shame.
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    My whole life I had spent blaming him,
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    hating him,
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    I even wished him ill.
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    I had never once
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    thought about his struggle, his choices.
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    Could he be a potential ally?
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    I never had thought
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    he feels as trapped as the chickens.
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    So we had been sitting there for hours
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    and the midday turned into afternoon,
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    turned into dusk, turned into darkness,
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    and he suddenly said,
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    "OK, are you ready to see the chickens?"
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    So under the cover of darkness,
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    we walked towards one
    of these long, gray houses.
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    And he swung open the door
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    and we stepped inside,
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    and we were hit
    with this overpowering smell
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    and every muscle in my body tensed up
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    and I coughed and my eyes teared.
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    I was too overwhelmed
    by my own physical discomfort,
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    I didn't even look around at first,
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    but when I did,
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    what I saw brought me to tears.
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    Tens of thousands of newly hatched chicks
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    in this darkened warehouse
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    with nowhere to go and nothing to do.
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    Over the next few months,
    I returned many times,
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    with filmmaker Raegan Hodge,
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    to record, to understand,
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    to build trust with Craig.
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    And I walked his houses with him
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    as he picked up dead and dying birds,
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    birds with messed-up legs
    and trouble breathing
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    and difficulty walking.
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    And all of this we caught on film.
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    And then we decided to do something
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    I don't think either he or I
    ever expected to do when we first met.
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    We decided to release that footage.
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    And that was really risky for both of us.
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    It was risky for him
    because he could lose his income,
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    his home, his land,
    his neighbors hating him.
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    And I could risk
    getting my organization sued,
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    or being the reason
    that he would lose everything,
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    but we had to do it anyway.
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    "The New York Times" broke the story
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    and within 24 hours,
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    a million people had seen our video.
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    It went viral by every definition,
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    and suddenly we had this global platform
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    for talking about factory farming.
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    And working with Craig got me thinking.
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    What other unlikely allies are out there?
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    What other progress,
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    what other lessons can I learn
    if I cross those enemy lines?
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    The first lesson I learned
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    is that we have to become comfortable
    with being uncomfortable.
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    Only talking to people who agree with us,
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    it's not going to get us to the solution.
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    We have to be willing
    to enter other people's space.
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    Because quite often,
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    the enemy has the power
    to change the problem
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    that we're trying to solve.
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    In my case, I'm not in charge
    of a single chicken.
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    The farmer is and so are
    the meat companies.
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    So I need to enter their space
    if I want to solve the problem.
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    And a couple of years
    after working with Craig,
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    I did something again
    I never expected to do.
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    I sat down with an even bigger
    so-called enemy:
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    Jim Perdue himself.
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    The man I had made the villain
    of my viral video.
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    And again, through difficult conversations
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    and being uncomfortable,
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    Perdue came out with the first
    animal care policy
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    of any poultry company.
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    In it, they agreed to do
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    some of the things we had criticized them
    for not doing in the viral video,
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    like put windows into houses.
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    And pay for them.
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    And that was a really
    important lesson for me.
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    The second lesson
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    is that when we sit down to negotiate
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    with the enemy,
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    we need to remember,
    there's a human being in front of us
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    that very likely
    has more in common with us
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    than we care to admit.
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    And I learned this firsthand
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    when I was invited to visit
    at a major poultry company's headquarters.
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    And it was the first time
    that my organization had been invited,
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    and any organization had been invited,
    to visit with them.
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    And as we walked through the corridor,
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    there were literally people
    who were peeking our from the cubicles
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    to get a quick look at what does
    an animal rights activist look like,
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    and we walked --
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    I look like this, so I don't know
    what they were expecting.
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    (Laughter)
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    But as we walked into the boardroom,
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    there was an executive
    who was in charge, sitting there.
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    And his arms were crossed
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    and he did not want me to be there.
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    And I flipped open my laptop,
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    and my background photo came up,
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    and it was a picture of my three kids.
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    My daughter clearly looks
    different than my sons.
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    And when he saw that photo
    he uncrossed his arms
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    and he tilted his head
    and he leaned forward and he said,
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    "Are those your kids?"
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    And I said, "Yeah.
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    I just got back
    from adopting my daughter -- "
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    And I babbled on way too much
    for a professional meeting.
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    And he stopped me and he said,
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    "I have two adopted kids."
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    And for the next 20 minutes,
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    we just talked about that.
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    We talked about adoption
    and being a parent
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    and in those moments,
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    we forgot who we were supposed to be
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    at that table.
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    And the walls came down,
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    and a bridge was built
    and we crossed this divide.
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    And more progress
    was made with that company
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    because of that human
    connection that we made.
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    My last lesson for you
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    is that when we sit down
    with the so-called enemy,
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    we need to look for the win-win.
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    Instead of going in
    with farmers like Craig Watts
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    and thinking, "I need
    to put them out of farming,"
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    I started to think how can I help them
    be different kinds of farmers,
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    like, growing hemp or mushrooms.
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    And a farmer I later worked with
    did exactly that.
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    He did do the exposé with me and filmed,
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    and we went with
    "The New York Times" again,
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    but he went beyond that.
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    He quit chicken factory farming,
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    and it turns out
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    that those big, long, gray warehouses
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    are the perfect environment
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    for growing something else.
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    (Laughter)
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    (Applause)
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    That's hemp, people, that's hemp.
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    (Laughter)
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    Here is an environmentally friendly way
    to stay on the land,
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    to pay the bills,
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    that a vegan animal rights activist
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    and a chicken farmer can get behind.
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    (Laughter)
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    And instead of thinking,
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    how can I get these big
    meat companies out of business,
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    I started thinking, how can I help them
    evolve into a different kind of business.
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    One where the protein doesn't come
    from slaughtered animals,
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    but rather, plants.
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    And believe it or not,
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    these big companies are starting
    to move their ships in that direction.
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    Cargill and Tyson and Perdue
    are adding plant-based proteins
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    into their supply chain.
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    And Perdue himself said that,
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    "Our company is a premium protein company,
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    and nothing about that says
    that it has to come from animals."
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    And in my own home town of Atlanta,
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    KFC did a one-day trial with Beyond Meat,
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    for plant-based chicken nuggets.
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    And it was insane,
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    there were lines
    wrapped around the corner,
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    there was traffic stopped
    in all directions,
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    you would think they were giving out
    free Beyoncé tickets.
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    People are ready for this shift.
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    We need to build a big tent
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    that everyone can get under.
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    From the chicken factory farmer,
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    to the mega meat company,
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    to the animal rights activist.
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    And these lessons,
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    they can apply to many causes,
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    whether it be with a problem with an ex,
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    a neighbor or an in-law.
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    Or with some of the biggest problems
    of exploitation and oppression,
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    like factory farming,
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    or misogyny or racism or climate change.
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    The world's smallest and biggest problems,
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    they won't be solved
    by beating down our enemies
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    but by finding these
    win-win pathways together.
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    It does require us
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    to let go of that idea of us versus them
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    and realize there's only one us,
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    all of us,
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    against an unjust system.
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    And it is difficult,
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    and messy, and uncomfortable.
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    But it is critical.
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    And maybe the only way
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    to build that compassionate food system
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    that we all, from the chicken
    to the chicken farmer
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    to the mega meat company, to all of us,
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    deserve.
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    Thank you.
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    (Applause)
Title:
A lesson in turning adversaries into allies
Speaker:
Leah Garcés
Description:

When you're on opposite sides of an issue, how do you broker peace with your adversaries and work together to solve a problem? Follow along as animal rights activist Leah Garcés recounts three lessons she learned in hatching an ambitious plan to end chicken factory farming with the last person she expected: a chicken farmer.

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Video Language:
English
Team:
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Project:
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Duration:
13:33

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