[Script Info] Title: [Events] Format: Layer, Start, End, Style, Name, MarginL, MarginR, MarginV, Effect, Text Dialogue: 0,0:00:32.12,0:01:14.72,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Tonight we will look at the Caravelle Crash, 11th Septembre 1968 and the Dialogue: 0,0:01:14.72,0:01:26.52,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It took off from Corsica and it never arrived in Nice, it crashed off the Cap d'Antibe killing all 95 Dialogue: 0,0:01:26.52,0:01:42.68,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,aboard. The authorities declared a non lieu saying a fire caused the accident. But for many years the Dialogue: 0,0:01:42.68,0:01:48.68,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,families feel that the state and perhaps the army, without any proof at the moment are in some way implicated Dialogue: 0,0:01:48.68,0:01:58.49,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,in this crash. Dialogue: 0,0:01:58.49,0:02:15.88,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,At 10.33 the Caravelle took off from Ajaccio minutes later the plane would land in Nice Cote d'Azur airport. Whey and how should a fire have broken Dialogue: 0,0:02:15.88,0:02:33.32,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,out what hapened after the pilot sent his message, why the plane exploded in mid flight and not when it hit the water. Three questions Dialogue: 0,0:02:33.32,0:02:39.56,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,still without a reply the catastrophy caused 95 victims. Dialogue: 0,0:02:39.56,0:02:45.02,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The last flight of the Caravelle F_ BOHB Dialogue: 0,0:02:45.02,0:02:58.12,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,In the airport of Campo delaru a walker who happened to take the last photo of the Caravelle F-HBOB. Dialogue: 0,0:02:58.12,0:03:09.13,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,A few minutes later it took off for Nice, but on making the approach to Nice the pilot mentions a fire, Dialogue: 0,0:03:09.13,0:03:14.14,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the plane is in difficulites he mentions the inevitability of a crash. Dialogue: 0,0:03:14.14,0:03:20.83,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,they were his last words before the plane disappeared from the radar screens at 10.34 Dialogue: 0,0:03:20.83,0:03:26.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,When the emergency services arrived off the coast of the Cote d'Antibes it was a moment of horror. Dialogue: 0,0:03:26.00,0:03:35.23,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The odor of kersosene was heavy in the air 95 persons lost their life, six of them members of staff. Dialogue: 0,0:03:35.23,0:03:40.75,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Only a few bodies and a few personal effects were found the pieces of the Caravelle, had sunk. Dialogue: 0,0:03:40.75,0:04:02.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,A few days later in Nice the requiem ceremonies showed the familes pain. Dialogue: 0,0:04:02.00,0:04:09.87,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,A dense silent crowd gathered around the Centre of Civil Protection. Dialogue: 0,0:04:09.87,0:04:16.80,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Where the bodies were kept. Dialogue: 0,0:04:16.80,0:04:26.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,In Corse despite the terrible shock no one new what had caused the crase. Dialogue: 0,0:04:26.00,0:04:32.35,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,In Nice whilst it was made known that the right engine had been replaced three days previously Dialogue: 0,0:04:32.35,0:04:35.92,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The hypothosis of a fire was mooted. Dialogue: 0,0:04:35.92,0:04:44.68,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,An investigation was opened and during this period of four months other Caravelles crashed for unknown reasons. Dialogue: 0,0:04:44.68,0:04:50.32,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the crash in Algeria in 69, a fire in electrical system. Dialogue: 0,0:04:50.32,0:04:56.48,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,In a hanger in Orly, one went on fire due to the heater. Dialogue: 0,0:04:56.48,0:05:03.80,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,For Ajaccio-Nice the judge declared a Non-lieu, the official these was a unknown fire. Dialogue: 0,0:05:03.80,0:05:18.20,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Pierre Gimart, was the radio controller who last spoke to the pilot, he confirms this liklihood of this hypothesis. Dialogue: 0,0:05:18.20,0:05:22.48,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,He states the pilot had not mentioned an impact or an engine on fire. Dialogue: 0,0:05:22.48,0:05:32.08,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Did he not mention the word engine"no, no, no I have the start of a fire on board" Dialogue: 0,0:05:32.08,0:05:42.88,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,He started to descend, I suppose it was the proceedure. We were listening. Dialogue: 0,0:05:42.88,0:05:54.12,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,My collegue said "message received" , Did he seem panicked? Not at all! Dialogue: 0,0:05:54.12,0:06:01.36,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Always with an inperturbable calm he said "I don't think I can land, I'm going to crash" Dialogue: 0,0:06:01.36,0:06:06.92,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,According to the journalist the airline staff seemed anguished. Dialogue: 0,0:06:06.92,0:06:13.32,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,An airline breguer passing even intercepted a conversation, My God the fire is gaining we will never Dialogue: 0,0:06:13.32,0:06:15.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,get to Nice. Dialogue: 0,0:06:15.00,0:06:18.48,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,These phrases and others are not in the official report. Dialogue: 0,0:06:18.48,0:06:22.20,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,A few days after the crash the doubts install amongst the population. Dialogue: 0,0:06:22.20,0:06:24.28,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,about the origin of the crash. Dialogue: 0,0:06:24.28,0:06:30.63,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,A few talked about an attempt as they had curiously found bullets in part of the toilet. Dialogue: 0,0:06:30.63,0:06:40.68,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,A rumour started that an error in the trajectory of a missille, attracted by the heat of the engines. Dialogue: 0,0:06:40.68,0:06:44.61,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,This rumour became tenacious when it was found that 11 September 68, Dialogue: 0,0:06:44.61,0:06:48.20,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,at the moment of the crash, military exercises were taking place. Dialogue: 0,0:06:48.20,0:06:50.55,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,In the Mediteranian, surveilled by Radar centre Mont Angel. Dialogue: 0,0:06:50.55,0:06:53.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,near Monaco, a team of TV journalists were there. Dialogue: 0,0:06:53.00,0:06:58.88,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,By chance a sound tecnician recorded a conversation in the room. Dialogue: 0,0:06:58.88,0:07:02.64,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,When he went to develop the recording in offices of France3 Antibe. Dialogue: 0,0:07:02.64,0:07:08.90,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,A colleague technician states he heard amongts the conversations. Dialogue: 0,0:07:08.90,0:07:14.05,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,"It has escaped us, It has escaped us"! Dialogue: 0,0:07:14.05,0:07:18.09,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,"We've lost it, we've lost it"!. Dialogue: 0,0:07:18.09,0:07:22.60,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,We were discussing what we had heard and were asking ourselves questions. Dialogue: 0,0:07:22.60,0:07:29.20,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,When two persons from the Renseignment Generaux (captains) came to ask for the recording and took it away. Dialogue: 0,0:07:29.20,0:07:34.80,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,A recoding that was seized and never figured in the final report. Dialogue: 0,0:07:34.80,0:07:39.28,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,For Mathieu et Louis Paoli who lost their mother and father in the catastrophy. Dialogue: 0,0:07:39.28,0:07:44.20,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Its the first of many issues in an investigation they say is graving incomplete. Dialogue: 0,0:07:44.20,0:07:48.12,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,They believe in the idea of a missile hitting the plane. Dialogue: 0,0:07:48.12,0:07:50.88,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Especially when they found a letter written by a member of the Investigating Commission. Dialogue: 0,0:07:50.88,0:07:55.20,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Jean Dupont, pilot and inspector in Air France had not understood. Dialogue: 0,0:07:55.20,0:07:58.68,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Why the radar films of the Caravelle had been hidden from him. Dialogue: 0,0:07:58.68,0:08:04.12,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Then released some five months later and the report of hypothesis that he was studying.. Dialogue: 0,0:08:04.12,0:08:09.48,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,amonst others was modified without his agreement. Dialogue: 0,0:08:09.48,0:08:15.03,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,This is exactly what he wrote "much more serious the chapter dealing with Dialogue: 0,0:08:15.03,0:08:21.11,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the potential of a collision with a missile was completely changed. Dialogue: 0,0:08:21.11,0:08:25.48,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,In his letters that he sent at the time he says its in 1968. Dialogue: 0,0:08:25.48,0:08:32.68,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,His says "if anything happens to me at all, sickness or accidents Dialogue: 0,0:08:32.68,0:08:39.45,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,you must look to those responsible in the military authorities and the State. Dialogue: 0,0:08:39.45,0:08:43.63,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,This member of the Investigating Commission he felt threatened? "Oh yes, he felt threatened! Dialogue: 0,0:08:43.63,0:08:46.88,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Nothing happened to Jean Dupont who died of natural causes. Dialogue: 0,0:08:46.88,0:08:51.20,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But in his letters he insists in verifying the declaration made by the military. Dialogue: 0,0:08:51.20,0:08:55.20,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,That they had not fired missiles that day. Dialogue: 0,0:08:55.20,0:09:00.17,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,A surprising declaration as on that day, a team of TV journalists to RTF, Dialogue: 0,0:09:00.17,0:09:04.28,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,were in Mont Angel to watch aerial interception exercises, with non armed planes. Dialogue: 0,0:09:04.28,0:09:13.40,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,According to official declarations launches of Titan Ground to Air missiles Dialogue: 0,0:09:13.40,0:09:18.28,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,were planned it suffices to look at the newpapers Le provencal, Dialogue: 0,0:09:18.28,0:09:25.48,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,which warns people that there will be missile launches 11 September and 12th. Dialogue: 0,0:09:25.48,0:09:30.40,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Curiously this information is not in the final report. Dialogue: 0,0:09:30.40,0:09:39.40,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Jean Philippe who lived close to base and often climbed and walked in the area, remembers as a teenager. Dialogue: 0,0:09:39.40,0:09:48.72,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,"the policemen would not allow near the blockade explaining to us, Dialogue: 0,0:09:48.72,0:09:53.01,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,they were doing secret experiements. We knew what that meant, Dialogue: 0,0:09:53.01,0:09:58.20,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,as each time they were firing from Isle de Levant the technicians would install Dialogue: 0,0:09:58.20,0:10:02.48,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,a large machine on the roof of the building and would follow Dialogue: 0,0:10:02.48,0:10:10.20,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the missile firing using this machine. We went off to play in another area. Dialogue: 0,0:10:10.20,0:10:14.33,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,11 Septembre 1968 Ange was in a boat with his father. Dialogue: 0,0:10:14.33,0:10:18.68,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,near the Cap d'Antibe he did not see the missile not the crash. Dialogue: 0,0:10:18.68,0:10:24.28,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but the FBOH-B passed over his head. Dialogue: 0,0:10:24.28,0:10:33.88,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It seemed ok, it was a bit bizarre because there was not normally planes there. Dialogue: 0,0:10:33.88,0:10:44.80,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but we saw a hole in the body of the plane it was black, it did not go the whole way through. Dialogue: 0,0:10:44.80,0:10:55.80,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Smoke was coming out of it, but the plane was flying ok, but very low. Dialogue: 0,0:10:55.80,0:10:58.80,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Ange did not hear the explosion but Vitien who was playing golf that morning. Dialogue: 0,0:10:58.80,0:11:11.80,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,He confirms seeing the plane and a strange blue light Dialogue: 0,0:11:11.80,0:11:18.98,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that came from behind the plane and hit from behind the plane Dialogue: 0,0:11:18.98,0:11:23.28,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,after that came an explosion that cut the Caravelle in two. Dialogue: 0,0:11:23.28,0:11:29.12,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The journalists reported seeing balls of fire falling into the ocean. Dialogue: 0,0:11:29.12,0:11:33.32,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,These were never reported in the main investigation. Dialogue: 0,0:11:33.32,0:11:40.24,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,As for Etienne he said what he had seen a few times and was never interviewed by the judge, then he kept quiet Dialogue: 0,0:11:40.24,0:11:51.53,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,he claims that he feels guitly now Dialogue: 0,0:11:51.53,0:11:58.54,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,"to see 95 people die in front of you made me sick". Dialogue: 0,0:11:58.54,0:12:06.81,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,"I've had it on my conscience all these years". You are still emotional Etienne. Dialogue: 0,0:12:06.81,0:12:11.28,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,"Yes of course". Why did you not say anything? Dialogue: 0,0:12:11.28,0:12:16.48,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,"One always said to me "you must not say anything" Dialogue: 0,0:12:16.48,0:12:21.68,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I risked ... I had a family! Did you think you would be killed by someone? Dialogue: 0,0:12:21.68,0:12:25.60,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I was afraid.... afraid! Dialogue: 0,0:12:25.60,0:12:30.68,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Etienne was not the only one not to talk.. at the time the voice of the State Dialogue: 0,0:12:30.68,0:12:34.40,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,all powerful could not be called into question. There was a Dialogue: 0,0:12:34.40,0:12:40.76,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Ministry of Information which controlled the media and all information about the affair. Dialogue: 0,0:12:40.76,0:12:42.94,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,even controlled the official journal where the report would be published. Dialogue: 0,0:12:42.94,0:12:45.88,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,This fear of saying what one feared one knew was widespread. Dialogue: 0,0:12:45.88,0:12:53.62,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Monsieur Laty also felt this fear and its only in 2011 that he explains for the first time, Dialogue: 0,0:12:53.62,0:12:55.71,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to have transcribed a confidential military document when he was in the marines, Dialogue: 0,0:12:55.71,0:12:58.28,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,in a post in the Department of the Varres. Dialogue: 0,0:12:58.28,0:13:07.20,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,"I had to note, because I was the secretary of the captain M..Blanc of the organisation. Dialogue: 0,0:13:07.20,0:13:23.60,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I had to transcribe of the investigating commission. Dialogue: 0,0:13:23.60,0:13:31.12,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,What happened was there was an exercies, a target airplane (drone?) passed Dialogue: 0,0:13:31.12,0:13:38.32,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,which was to pass the exercise was to fire on the target plane with Dialogue: 0,0:13:38.32,0:13:48.60,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,ground to air which was not armed. It was just to fire it..... Dialogue: 0,0:13:48.60,0:13:54.32,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and then the Caravelle arrived it was the Caravelle was taken as the target... Dialogue: 0,0:13:54.32,0:13:58.28,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Monsieur Laty has given a written an official written testament, Dialogue: 0,0:13:58.28,0:14:02.12,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,so that it can be eventually used in the legal process Dialogue: 0,0:14:02.12,0:14:12.34,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Other evidence concerns the black box found in 1971 at 2000 ft depth Dialogue: 0,0:14:12.34,0:14:19.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,if the black box has not deteriorated after two years at the bottom of the sea Dialogue: 0,0:14:19.00,0:14:23.68,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,valuable information can be gleaned for the investigation into Dialogue: 0,0:14:23.68,0:14:24.92,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the causes of this crash. Dialogue: 0,0:14:24.92,0:14:29.80,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But, as it happens the report noted that the black box was not usable Dialogue: 0,0:14:29.80,0:14:36.84,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and they could not find the cause of the fire. Dialogue: 0,0:14:36.84,0:14:45.80,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,However, today a man who lives abroad his friend, Jean Pierre, who he knew well, had analysed the tape in the black box Dialogue: 0,0:14:45.80,0:14:52.88,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,confessed to him in confidence "he was very reserved he would Dialogue: 0,0:14:52.88,0:15:05.04,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,not have told everyone"... what did he say about the black box? Dialogue: 0,0:15:05.04,0:15:10.20,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,He said they were found they were analysed and contrary to Dialogue: 0,0:15:10.20,0:15:20.20,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,what was reported there was indeed perforation of the exterior of the plane Dialogue: 0,0:15:20.20,0:15:26.48,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,did he employ the term missile or not? "No he did not ... one Dialogue: 0,0:15:26.48,0:15:29.20,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,could suppose it was a missile. Dialogue: 0,0:15:29.20,0:15:33.14,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,No one can tell us now where this black box is... nor indeed Dialogue: 0,0:15:33.14,0:15:38.08,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the eight tonnes of wreakage found after the crash Dialogue: 0,0:15:38.08,0:15:42.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the article in France-Soir 1971 shows that bits of the fusilage Dialogue: 0,0:15:42.00,0:15:45.73,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,were brought to a hanger of Aerospacial in Toulouse... Dialogue: 0,0:15:45.73,0:15:49.20,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,we contacted Airbus in Toulouse but also the BEA Dialogue: 0,0:15:49.20,0:15:51.88,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Office of Accident Investigation in Paris, no-one knows where Dialogue: 0,0:15:51.88,0:15:58.28,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the debris has gone, perhaps destroyed or lost. Dialogue: 0,0:15:58.28,0:16:04.88,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,One of the authors of "Secrets of State", confirms that other Dialogue: 0,0:16:04.88,0:16:12.32,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,pieces of wreakage were found and brought to the marine base in Toulon. Dialogue: 0,0:16:12.32,0:16:19.81,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,"we found incontestable documentary evidence that proves, that proves that some Dialogue: 0,0:16:19.81,0:16:27.48,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,pieces of wrekage were taken to Toulon in secret. We have Dialogue: 0,0:16:27.48,0:16:41.48,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,a witness that also confirms that these pices were taken there in 1971 Dialogue: 0,0:16:41.48,0:16:46.61,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Very curiously, the plane was civilian and owned by Air France Dialogue: 0,0:16:46.61,0:16:50.88,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Air France would not answer our questions and by email Dialogue: 0,0:16:50.88,0:16:53.53,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,advised us to contact the Ministry of Defense. Dialogue: 0,0:16:53.53,0:16:58.84,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The same minister has refused for some years systematically to talk to us Dialogue: 0,0:16:58.84,0:17:00.04,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,therefore it is impossible for us in this investigation to give Dialogue: 0,0:17:00.04,0:17:06.04,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,you the military version, total mute/no comment from the military Dialogue: 0,0:17:06.04,0:17:33.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Each year on the 11 september in Nice and Ajaccio pay Dialogue: 0,0:17:33.00,0:17:40.48,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,homage to the 95 persons killed, for the family and friends Dialogue: 0,0:17:40.48,0:17:46.32,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the pain is intact. Dialogue: 0,0:17:46.32,0:17:50.60,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Marie Claude Coni lost her father in the crash, the General Coni Dialogue: 0,0:17:50.60,0:17:52.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,great survivor of concentration camps before becoming Dialogue: 0,0:17:52.00,0:17:59.08,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,an emblematic member of the army. In 2011 his daughter Dialogue: 0,0:17:59.08,0:18:06.21,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,has forgotten nothing... "nothing after a ceremony like this, I Dialogue: 0,0:18:06.21,0:18:17.86,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,must say that one has a lump in ones throat, very close to Dialogue: 0,0:18:17.86,0:18:22.80,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,those who are no longer here."there is a lot of emotion still, 43 years Dialogue: 0,0:18:22.80,0:18:28.52,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,after, so?" "yes, yes...." Dialogue: 0,0:18:28.52,0:18:39.52,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The drama for the relatives is that there is no real grave Dialogue: 0,0:18:39.52,0:18:43.64,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,because nearly all the bodies were never found. So in Ajaccio and Nice Dialogue: 0,0:18:43.64,0:18:47.68,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,there is a memorial of metal plunging into the sea Dialogue: 0,0:18:47.68,0:18:56.08,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Vivianne is here to listen to the names of the brother and sister Dialogue: 0,0:18:56.08,0:19:03.28,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,she lost.... 22 and 20 years they went off, there is only me Dialogue: 0,0:19:03.28,0:19:10.29,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and my younger sister who have both suffered because of this. Dialogue: 0,0:19:10.29,0:19:13.13,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,We were a family decimated by the accident. Now I want to Dialogue: 0,0:19:13.13,0:19:23.68,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,know everything, everything. I explode, I want to know... Dialogue: 0,0:19:23.68,0:19:30.32,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Leave the doubt, was there yes or no a missile fired or was it a fire Dialogue: 0,0:19:30.32,0:19:38.72,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The families launched for more information ... Dialogue: 0,0:19:38.72,0:19:43.20,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,"now there are many people who are older who wish to lighten Dialogue: 0,0:19:43.20,0:19:48.98,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,their concience...,, I ask them, truely, you must do it.. Dialogue: 0,0:19:48.98,0:19:56.28,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Its for the good of 95 people but for human nature, simply. Dialogue: 0,0:19:56.28,0:20:01.40,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I invite them to contact be it my uncles or the Association Dialogue: 0,0:20:01.40,0:20:14.92,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,for any indications that could throw light on this affair. Dialogue: 0,0:20:14.92,0:20:18.93,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,We ask nothing, we ask for the truth so that all this ends.. for peace Dialogue: 0,0:20:18.93,0:20:24.80,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The wish to find the truth is also apparent is also evident Dialogue: 0,0:20:24.80,0:20:37.32,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,concerning some politicians, such as those who attended the recent commemorative ceremony. Dialogue: 0,0:20:37.32,0:20:42.20,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,"I think that today its not a question of taboo, our country Dialogue: 0,0:20:42.20,0:20:45.96,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,has its obligations. We are doing it today for the Rio de Janero Dialogue: 0,0:20:45.96,0:20:53.02,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,disaster which happened just a year ago. I think we have an Dialogue: 0,0:20:53.02,0:20:58.48,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,obligation to do it even to go back 43 years. Dialogue: 0,0:20:58.48,0:21:03.48,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,| have followed the affair and now I am persuaded that it was a missile Dialogue: 0,0:21:03.48,0:21:11.69,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,which hit this avion, from Isle de Levant, from Le Plateau d'albion.. Dialogue: 0,0:21:11.69,0:21:16.01,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,we must not forget Le Plateau.." "What makes you say these things". Dialogue: 0,0:21:16.01,0:21:20.40,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Many things, firstly the "mutism" absolute silence of the army Dialogue: 0,0:21:20.40,0:21:28.13,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The obstinate quest for truth by the victims families continues... Dialogue: 0,0:21:28.13,0:21:33.72,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,In Cosica the Assembly is moving, posing a clear question Dialogue: 0,0:21:33.72,0:21:38.20,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,If there are remains of the plane in the Cap D'Antibe. Dialogue: 0,0:21:38.20,0:21:42.80,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The only real way of knowing if the thesis is true or not is to Dialogue: 0,0:21:42.80,0:21:52.68,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,find the wreakage of the plane and verify the point of impact Dialogue: 0,0:21:52.68,0:22:00.36,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Sir are you willing to ask the State to find and investigate the Dialogue: 0,0:22:00.36,0:22:04.40,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,remains of the Caravelle? Dialogue: 0,0:22:04.40,0:22:11.64,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Yes I am in agreement to ask the authorities to find and make Dialogue: 0,0:22:11.64,0:22:24.40,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,every effort as has been done for the recent Air France crash from Rio. Dialogue: 0,0:22:24.40,0:22:39.13,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and also to de-classify all the documents relating to the search for truth. Dialogue: 0,0:22:39.13,0:22:45.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The government through the Minister for Justice says they have Dialogue: 0,0:22:45.00,0:22:50.48,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,no plans to search for the wreakage. Dialogue: 0,0:22:50.48,0:22:54.32,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,To protest the Corsican Assembly has mooted a subscription?? Dialogue: 0,0:22:54.32,0:22:59.72,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,in order to find private funding to find the plane. Dialogue: 0,0:22:59.72,0:23:06.53,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The operation could cost 2 million euro, confirms Michelle Dialogue: 0,0:23:06.53,0:23:12.12,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Tomray a specialist in marine geology. He says that even Dialogue: 0,0:23:12.12,0:23:15.50,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,after 40 the rust would not have ruined the wreakage. Dialogue: 0,0:23:15.50,0:23:20.14,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the technique he employs allows him to be very precise as Dialogue: 0,0:23:20.14,0:23:23.56,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,when he found another plane weakage in the Med.. Dialogue: 0,0:23:23.56,0:23:37.52,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,We do a ecography underwater...we can map and we can if Dialogue: 0,0:23:37.52,0:24:07.40,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the resolution is carefully chosen see great detail. Dialogue: 0,0:24:07.40,0:24:14.28,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The government underlines that only a judicial decision can allow research Dialogue: 0,0:24:14.28,0:24:23.12,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,For many years the Association has made several attempts, in particular Dialogue: 0,0:24:23.12,0:24:27.62,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,a case of involuntary homicide against the Military, Dialogue: 0,0:24:27.62,0:24:38.56,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,All cases will run into the problem of time lapse. Dialogue: 0,0:24:38.56,0:24:52.48,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,One of the first things one said to me one had posed???? Dialogue: 0,0:24:52.48,0:24:57.80,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,State Secrets on the judge.. one has never done this. Dialogue: 0,0:24:57.80,0:25:00.80,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I understand that one needs to find the truth.. but one should Dialogue: 0,0:25:00.80,0:25:06.80,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,not have left the time pass like this. Dialogue: 0,0:25:06.80,0:25:16.40,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Its often difficult to find truth in this type of case, especially Dialogue: 0,0:25:16.40,0:25:23.08,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,after the event. But you realise 40 years ago.. there are articles... Dialogue: 0,0:25:23.08,0:25:31.52,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,yes I read them with interest but I do not see a way in law Dialogue: 0,0:25:31.52,0:25:41.32,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to re-open this affair. I promise you I would if I could ... Dialogue: 0,0:25:41.32,0:25:55.72,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Matthieu and Louis Paoli do not still live in serenity,... Dialogue: 0,0:25:55.72,0:26:01.75,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Whilst one had 95 people dead, a case full on concrete facts. Dialogue: 0,0:26:01.75,0:26:05.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,We should not talk about time lapse ... its disgraceful. Dialogue: 0,0:26:05.00,0:26:21.72,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Truth, what can time do to truth, it is 40 years we have been searching Dialogue: 0,0:26:21.72,0:26:33.20,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,We are in mourning for 43 years and searching for truth..we will find it. Dialogue: 0,0:26:33.20,0:26:39.48,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Just yesterday, the solicitors for the Association have put a Dialogue: 0,0:26:39.48,0:26:44.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,new case, and feel the case can be re-opened. If the sound recording Dialogue: 0,0:26:44.00,0:26:48.93,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,taken in the offices in France3 and a secretary typed a confidential Dialogue: 0,0:26:48.93,0:26:51.49,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,report. He then must have missed certain vital elements and this Dialogue: 0,0:26:51.49,0:26:58.04,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,puts into question the "time lapse". Dialogue: 0,0:26:58.04,0:27:01.40,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,If the judge at the time had heard these recordings, perhaps Dialogue: 0,0:27:01.40,0:27:06.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the investigation would not have ended in a non-lieu? Dialogue: 0,0:27:06.00,0:27:06.96,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The fact that obstacles were put in front of the search for truth in this affair. Dialogue: 0,0:27:06.96,0:27:10.40,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The judge must look at all this and decide on this new argument Dialogue: 0,0:27:10.40,0:27:38.88,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and make his decision. Dialogue: 0,0:27:38.88,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Meanwhile the Paoli brothers return to the empty family tomb