1 00:00:04,005 --> 00:00:08,003 [Politicians, Voting And Democracy] 2 00:00:13,001 --> 00:00:19,004 Politicians are human beings, and like the rest of us are influenced by the environment 3 00:00:20,420 --> 00:00:26,326 So once politicians reach the parliamentary environment they will behave accordingly. 4 00:00:30,139 --> 00:00:34,930 Human government has been around for many thousand of years actually -sure 5 00:00:35,023 --> 00:00:41,869 and they've been fighting and killing each other. All human upgraded governments are basically corrupt, 6 00:00:42,000 --> 00:00:46,852 they serve the 'in-group'. They have to, otherwise they'd never get elected. 7 00:00:46,944 --> 00:00:52,885 So here you sit back with the illusion of patching up the society, making it good, 8 00:00:53,000 --> 00:01:00,637 getting decent people in government. All that's delusional. You have to have a government not based on money. 9 00:01:00,760 --> 00:01:10,495 You have to have a government with machines that distribute goods and services, regardless of race, religion or private beliefs. 10 00:01:10,603 --> 00:01:16,083 In other ways, people must be permitted to live the lifestyle that they prefer. 11 00:01:16,221 --> 00:01:18,760 Without you telling them what to do. 12 00:01:18,868 --> 00:01:24,792 When you come up and you say "this is the right way", it's your way, the way you were brought up, 13 00:01:24,900 --> 00:01:29,264 but that doesn't make it right, it just makes it appropriate for you. 14 00:01:29,386 --> 00:01:35,249 The future will be very different than the world today, the future will be based upon: 15 00:01:35,357 --> 00:01:43,417 Does the system work? Does it serve most people? Does it maintain a healthy relationship in sharing values? 16 00:01:43,556 --> 00:01:49,605 Or does the system damage that? This is how we decide what system is to be selected. 17 00:01:49,744 --> 00:01:56,620 How well does the system works? That's the final test, that's used in engineering standards, 18 00:01:56,742 --> 00:01:59,762 that's the only system that's valid. 19 00:02:00,666 --> 00:02:04,002 Now, is it a democracy? People ask me. 20 00:02:05,326 --> 00:02:15,007 I put it this way: Is it a participatory democracy? -Well I participate. -Well then come here sometimes. -I want to participate right away. 21 00:02:15,130 --> 00:02:19,823 -That's good! how would you prevent cars from hitting each other? -I don't know. 22 00:02:20,310 --> 00:02:24,076 -How do you prevent a building catching fire? -I don't know. 23 00:02:24,177 --> 00:02:30,519 -How do you participate? Did you vote for the space program? Did anybody vote for Vietnam war? 24 00:02:32,169 --> 00:02:37,555 Did anybody vote for any war? Did anybody vote for the Moon project? 25 00:02:37,694 --> 00:02:40,001 How the hell do you participate then? 26 00:02:43,354 --> 00:02:49,263 Half of all american adults understand that the earth orbits the sun yearly 27 00:02:49,371 --> 00:02:51,185 according to a basic science survey. 28 00:02:51,309 --> 00:02:55,004 Nevertheless there's enthusiasm for research acceptance on fields like genetic engineering 29 00:02:55,097 --> 00:03:00,001 and nuclear power, that are viewed with suspicion. Only about 25% of american adults 30 00:03:00,109 --> 00:03:04,189 get passing grades in the national science foundation survey of what people know about 31 00:03:04,282 --> 00:03:08,483 basic science and economics. I mean this is singing your song isn't it? 32 00:03:08,592 --> 00:03:12,233 Well, it certainly is what I'm talking about in "The demon haunted world". 33 00:03:12,358 --> 00:03:20,141 My feeling, Charlie is not that the pseudo science and superstition 34 00:03:20,264 --> 00:03:27,527 and "new age", so called, beliefs and the fundamental zealotry are something new, 35 00:03:27,650 --> 00:03:30,885 they have been with us for as long as we've been human, 36 00:03:31,001 --> 00:03:38,372 but we live in an age based on science and technology with formidable technological powers. 37 00:03:38,479 --> 00:03:42,823 Science and technology are propelling us forward at accelerating rates 38 00:03:42,946 --> 00:03:46,932 Thats right! And if we don't understand it, about "we" I mean we general public 39 00:03:47,055 --> 00:03:50,636 if it's something like "ohh I'm not good at that, I don't know anything about it" 40 00:03:50,729 --> 00:03:55,631 Then who is making all the decisions about science and technology that are going to determine 41 00:03:55,755 --> 00:04:00,682 what kind of a future our children live in? Just uh, some members of congress? 42 00:04:00,775 --> 00:04:05,402 But there's no more than a handful of members of congress who have any background in science at all! 43 00:04:05,510 --> 00:04:11,620 And the republican congress has just abolished it's own office of technology assessment, 44 00:04:11,728 --> 00:04:16,006 The organization that gave them by participation competent advice on science and technology 45 00:04:16,129 --> 00:04:18,374 They say "We don't want to know". 46 00:04:18,466 --> 00:04:22,063 There's two kinds of dangers, one is what I just talked about, 47 00:04:22,171 --> 00:04:25,621 that we've arranged the society based on science and technology 48 00:04:25,713 --> 00:04:29,292 in which nobody understands anything about science and technology 49 00:04:29,400 --> 00:04:35,293 and this combustible mixture of ignorance and power, sooner or later 50 00:04:35,401 --> 00:04:40,495 is gonna blow up in our faces, I mean, who is running the science and technology 51 00:04:40,587 --> 00:04:43,085 in a democracy if the people don't know anything about it? 52 00:04:43,209 --> 00:04:47,355 And the second reason I'm worried about this 53 00:04:47,495 --> 00:04:53,107 is that science is more than a body of knowledge, it's a way of thinking 54 00:04:53,215 --> 00:04:56,450 a way of skeptically interrogating the universe 55 00:04:56,603 --> 00:05:00,251 with a fine understanding of human fallibility. 56 00:05:00,375 --> 00:05:09,009 If we are not to able to ask skeptical questions to interrogate those who tell us that something is true 57 00:05:09,147 --> 00:05:14,311 to be skeptical of those in authority. Then we are up for grabs 58 00:05:14,421 --> 00:05:19,108 for the next charlatan political or religious who comes hobblling along. 59 00:05:19,248 --> 00:05:25,679 Have we (the point is made and maybe by you), anyway when was the last time a president made a speech about science? 60 00:05:28,186 --> 00:05:34,744 It is this notion that, science is not a great interest to us, in some sense, 61 00:05:34,883 --> 00:05:37,606 that somehow we dont wanna learn. 62 00:05:37,713 --> 00:05:42,062 You see, people read the stock market quotations 63 00:05:42,200 --> 00:05:44,822 and financial papers, look how complex that is. 64 00:05:44,960 --> 00:05:47,327 They know the direct connections to their own... 65 00:05:47,434 --> 00:05:50,790 There's a motivation, but they are capable of it, large amounts of people. 66 00:05:50,929 --> 00:05:55,707 People are able of look at sport statistics, look how many people can do that! 67 00:05:55,862 --> 00:06:01,362 Understanding science is not more difficult than that, it doesn't involve greater intellectual activities. 68 00:06:01,501 --> 00:06:11,783 But the thing about science is first of all, it's after the way the universe really is, and not what makes us feel better. 69 00:06:11,905 --> 00:06:17,216 And a lot of the competing doctors are after what feels good 70 00:06:17,339 --> 00:06:19,911 and not what's true. 71 00:06:21,684 --> 00:06:27,846 It's not politicians that can solve problems, they have no technical capabilities, 72 00:06:28,001 --> 00:06:32,263 they don't know how to solve problems. Even if they were sincere, 73 00:06:32,386 --> 00:06:34,139 they don't know how to solve problems. 74 00:06:34,278 --> 00:06:38,942 It's the technicians that produce the desalinization plants. 75 00:06:39,066 --> 00:06:43,311 It's the technicians that give you electricity, that give you motor vehicles, 76 00:06:43,420 --> 00:06:46,232 that heat your house and cool it in the summer time. 77 00:06:46,371 --> 00:06:49,309 It's technology that solves problems 78 00:06:49,417 --> 00:06:55,113 not politics, politics cannot solve problems cause they are not trained to do so. 79 00:06:55,236 --> 00:07:01,466 And writing your congressmen is fantastic, they tell you to write your congressman if you want something done. 80 00:07:01,589 --> 00:07:05,496 The men in washington should be at the forefront of technology, 81 00:07:05,633 --> 00:07:09,233 the forefront of human study, the forefront of crime 82 00:07:09,388 --> 00:07:14,185 all the factors that shape human behaviour. You don't have to write your congressmen 83 00:07:14,324 --> 00:07:18,294 What kind of people are they that are appointed to do that job? 84 00:07:18,431 --> 00:07:22,923 Instead of putting up a sign: "Drive carefully, slippery when wet" 85 00:07:23,047 --> 00:07:26,636 put abrasive in the highway so its not slippery when wet. 86 00:07:26,759 --> 00:07:31,123 And if a person gets in the car they are drunk and the car oscillates a great deal, 87 00:07:31,261 --> 00:07:34,297 there's a little pendulum that swings up and back and that would 88 00:07:34,420 --> 00:07:38,513 pull the car over to the side, not a law, a solution. 89 00:07:38,667 --> 00:07:43,000 Put sonar and radar in all auto mobiles so they can't hit one another. 90 00:07:43,139 --> 00:07:47,730 Man made laws are attempts to deal with occurring problems 91 00:07:47,884 --> 00:07:51,588 and not knowing how to solve them, they make a law. 92 00:07:53,002 --> 00:07:59,465 So you live in a managed world, and your kids in the future will say to you, wasn't it obvious? 93 00:07:59,605 --> 00:08:04,341 That you paid off senators, you paid off governments, you paid off different people 94 00:08:04,479 --> 00:08:09,325 to get your will? Isn't that obvious? I guess not. 95 00:08:09,448 --> 00:08:19,931 And so, if you do away with the money system, you can't have the sale of drugs. You can't pay off senators. You can't buy people. 96 00:08:20,038 --> 00:08:24,252 You understand what I'm saying? As long as you've got money, no matter who you elect. 97 00:08:24,390 --> 00:08:29,001 You say, "Well, maybe if we elect decent people in government..." No way, even if you had 98 00:08:29,109 --> 00:08:33,838 the most decent people in the world, taken from the best churches you like 99 00:08:34,001 --> 00:08:38,885 If you ran out of resources, be lying, cheating, killing, stealing. 100 00:08:39,031 --> 00:08:45,067 It's resources that people need, not money. Access to resources. 101 00:08:45,190 --> 00:08:51,001 But we have more than enough resources. Have you considered the money spent on world war II 102 00:08:51,110 --> 00:08:54,267 you could have wiped out the slums all over the world, 103 00:08:54,405 --> 00:08:58,269 educated people, built the best universities free of charge. 104 00:08:58,408 --> 00:09:00,340 Why do we do it free of charge? 105 00:09:00,464 --> 00:09:03,838 Because the smarter the kids are, the richer all of us will be. 106 00:09:03,977 --> 00:09:09,246 Every kid shooting up drugs, hanging out in malls. Why? They have no place to go. 107 00:09:09,384 --> 00:09:16,096 There should be art centers, music centers, cultural centers, theater groups, where people can go. 108 00:09:16,220 --> 00:09:20,992 They hang out in malls and coats stands because there's no place to go. 109 00:09:21,131 --> 00:09:27,710 And the government, I would say this, the government than entry, doesn't give a shit about people. 110 00:09:27,848 --> 00:09:36,607 Proof, now. They would not outsource. I have a big factory: if I pay my help more than the minimum wage, 111 00:09:36,730 --> 00:09:40,932 I can't stay in business, if he outsources to China. Do you understand? 112 00:09:41,055 --> 00:09:47,620 You're not going to invest in the company that builds playgrounds for the women's children that work in the factory. 113 00:09:47,743 --> 00:09:53,327 You want the money spent on products advertising so the income is greater. So you invest in it. 114 00:09:53,450 --> 00:09:56,371 So we're all sons of bitches in the monetary system. 115 00:09:56,494 --> 00:09:58,414 It makes us that way. 116 00:09:58,538 --> 00:10:03,586 Well I say if you're not... consult your bank account and see who you are. 117 00:10:08,818 --> 00:10:13,682 But there's a reason, there's a reason... there's a reason for this, there's a reason education sucks, 118 00:10:13,806 --> 00:10:17,822 it's the same reason it will never, ever, ever be fixed. 119 00:10:17,930 --> 00:10:22,046 It's never gonna get any better, don't look for it, be happy with what you got. 120 00:10:22,200 --> 00:10:25,481 Because the owners of this country don't want that. 121 00:10:25,574 --> 00:10:30,630 I'm talking about the real owners now, the real owners: the big wealthy business interests, 122 00:10:30,753 --> 00:10:33,543 that control things and they make all the important decisions. 123 00:10:33,665 --> 00:10:38,855 Forget the politicians, the politicians are put there to give you the idea that you have freedom of choice. 124 00:10:39,001 --> 00:10:41,558 You don't! You have no choice. 125 00:10:41,681 --> 00:10:47,869 You have owners. They own you. They own everything. They own all the important lands, 126 00:10:48,000 --> 00:10:49,573 they own and control the corporations, 127 00:10:49,698 --> 00:10:55,030 they've long since born to pay for the senate the congress to stay down as their city holes, they got the judges in their back pocket, 128 00:10:55,107 --> 00:11:00,015 and they own all the big media companies so they control just about all of the news and information you get here, 129 00:11:00,138 --> 00:11:05,619 they got you by the balls! They've spent billions of dollars every year lobbying, 130 00:11:05,727 --> 00:11:09,353 lobbying to get what they want! 131 00:11:09,476 --> 00:11:13,683 But we know what they want, they want more for themselves and less for everybody else! 132 00:11:13,791 --> 00:11:18,984 But I'll tell you what they don't want: they don't want a population of citizens capable of critical thinking, 133 00:11:19,108 --> 00:11:23,002 they don't want well informed, well educated people capable of critical thinking, 134 00:11:23,109 --> 00:11:27,174 they're not interested in that, that doesn't help them. That's against their interests. 135 00:11:27,297 --> 00:11:28,430 That's right! 136 00:11:29,295 --> 00:11:31,572 They don't want people who are smart enough to sit around the kitchen table 137 00:11:31,741 --> 00:11:33,961 figuring how badly they are getting fucked by a system 138 00:11:34,084 --> 00:11:37,947 that threw them overboard thirty fucking years ago. They don't want that. You know what they want? 139 00:11:38,085 --> 00:11:42,247 They want obedient workers. Obedient workers. 140 00:11:42,371 --> 00:11:45,297 People who are just smart enough to run the machines and do the paper work 141 00:11:45,420 --> 00:11:49,969 and just dumb enough, to passively accept all these increasingly shittier jobs 142 00:11:50,077 --> 00:11:53,893 with the lower pay and the longer hours the reduced benefits the end of overtime 143 00:11:54,002 --> 00:11:56,715 and the vanishing pension that disappears the minute you go to collect it, 144 00:11:56,838 --> 00:12:02,401 and now they are coming for your social security money. They want your fucking retirement money. 145 00:12:02,524 --> 00:12:06,653 They want it back, so they can give it to their criminal friends on wall street. 146 00:12:06,761 --> 00:12:10,124 And you know something? They'll get it, they'll get it all from you sooner or later, 147 00:12:10,231 --> 00:12:16,202 because they own this fucking place. It's a big club, and you ain't in it. 148 00:12:16,325 --> 00:12:19,544 You and I are not in the big club. 149 00:12:19,652 --> 00:12:24,249 By the way it's the same big club they used to beat you over the head with all day long and they tell you what to believe. 150 00:12:24,356 --> 00:12:26,375 All day long beating you over the head and the media's telling you 151 00:12:26,482 --> 00:12:29,046 what to believe, what to think and what to buy. 152 00:12:29,138 --> 00:12:35,916 The table is tilted folks, the game is rigged, and nobody seems to notice, nobody seems to care. 153 00:12:36,024 --> 00:12:40,575 Good honest hard working people, white collar, blue collar, it doesn't matter what color shirt you have on, 154 00:12:40,682 --> 00:12:44,389 good honest hard working people continue, these are people of modest means, 155 00:12:44,481 --> 00:12:48,731 continue to elect these rich cock suckers who don't give a fuck about them. 156 00:12:48,823 --> 00:12:53,293 They don't give a fuck about you, they don't give a fuck about you, they don't care about you, 157 00:12:53,401 --> 00:12:56,924 at all! At all! At all! 158 00:12:58,465 --> 00:12:59,530 You know? 159 00:13:01,001 --> 00:13:03,854 And nobody seems to notice, nobody seems to care. 160 00:13:03,961 --> 00:13:08,560 That's what the owners count on: the fact the americans will probably remain willfully ignorant 161 00:13:08,667 --> 00:13:13,230 of the big, red white and blue dick that's been jammed up their assholes everyday. 162 00:13:13,353 --> 00:13:18,093 Because the owners of this country know the truth, it's called the American dream, 163 00:13:18,201 --> 00:13:21,001 cause you have to be asleep to believe it. 164 00:13:28,384 --> 00:13:30,727 [Alternative Solutions] 165 00:13:37,730 --> 00:13:41,278 Decisions must not represent personal opinions, 166 00:13:41,371 --> 00:13:45,324 but an action as result of scientific research. 167 00:13:45,416 --> 00:13:50,185 Politicians have no technical understanding, and thus provide no value 168 00:13:50,293 --> 00:13:52,419 when arriving at a decision. 169 00:13:52,803 --> 00:13:59,369 The nearest thing that I know, is to arrive at decisions, rather than make them. 170 00:13:59,476 --> 00:14:05,867 Arriving at decisions meaning: put all your decisions to test, see if they work. 171 00:14:06,001 --> 00:14:09,238 Use scientific scales of performance. 172 00:14:09,361 --> 00:14:15,881 And in that manner, we can probably arrive at closer agreements with nations. 173 00:14:16,002 --> 00:14:19,683 I believe that all nations need the same things: 174 00:14:19,807 --> 00:14:25,021 clean air, clean water, arable land, 175 00:14:25,099 --> 00:14:28,193 and medical and health security. 176 00:14:28,301 --> 00:14:32,061 And access to food, and the necessities of life. 177 00:14:32,184 --> 00:14:38,524 If we fail to work together, attempting to solve these problems, 178 00:14:38,631 --> 00:14:44,325 I feel the problems will continue, in much more vicious ways, 179 00:14:44,448 --> 00:14:51,434 because we are not touching or not addressing the actual manifestation, 180 00:14:51,557 --> 00:14:54,435 how these values come into being. 181 00:14:56,000 --> 00:15:00,559 So when I say, decisions have to be arrived at, 182 00:15:00,667 --> 00:15:06,746 first you have to study the carrying capacity of the planet, what it's capable of supporting. 183 00:15:06,823 --> 00:15:12,820 Then you design your cities, and population densities so that they correspond 184 00:15:12,928 --> 00:15:15,901 to the carrying capacity of the environment. 185 00:15:16,000 --> 00:15:22,083 That's what I mean when I say: people do not make decisions, they arrive at them. 186 00:15:22,191 --> 00:15:26,978 And how do you decide how much oxygen you carry on the submarine? 187 00:15:27,085 --> 00:15:30,156 Well, depends on the amount of people in the submarine, 188 00:15:30,279 --> 00:15:33,960 and how long you wish to be submerged. 189 00:15:34,083 --> 00:15:35,584 That determine that. 190 00:15:35,738 --> 00:15:38,855 How do you know how much water to carry on the submarine? 191 00:15:38,968 --> 00:15:43,341 How do you know how much food to carry? How do you know how much electrical power? 192 00:15:43,434 --> 00:15:46,960 Depends on the performance you want of that submarine, 193 00:15:47,083 --> 00:15:50,617 then you put in the proper electrical power 194 00:15:50,725 --> 00:15:53,526 for operating the submarine. 195 00:15:53,619 --> 00:15:57,403 You have to put enough food, and refrigeration equipment 196 00:15:57,511 --> 00:16:04,819 to feed the crew. If you don't provide for them, the technology may work, but the crew won't. 197 00:16:04,956 --> 00:16:09,965 So you have to not make decisions, you have to arrive at them 198 00:16:11,001 --> 00:16:18,452 Wants are irrelevant. Necessities are paramount, and they must be related to planetary resources. 199 00:16:19,386 --> 00:16:23,604 But the whole idea is in contradiction with the monetary system, 200 00:16:23,712 --> 00:16:26,452 so we need a different system. 201 00:16:51,388 --> 00:16:55,134 Reality is reality, and there can only be one, 202 00:16:55,257 --> 00:16:58,761 and it is best defined by scientific observation. 203 00:16:59,151 --> 00:17:01,322 Humans can only observe, 204 00:17:01,445 --> 00:17:05,503 actions or decisions are taken in relation to observations, 205 00:17:05,611 --> 00:17:08,387 and not some erroneous opinion.