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Hello, everybody.
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In our re:retail program,
which we have prepared as Vispera
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to address the change
in the fast-moving consumption
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and retail industries,
our guest this week is
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Tuncay Tütek, Founding Partner of Getir.
Mr. Tuncay, welcome.
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Thank you, hello.
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Hello. In general, there can be a lot of
classifications when you look at
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individuals and companies.
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But there are two main groups.
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One of them is those who are born digital,
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and the ones who experience
digital transformation.
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Getir is one of the
digital born companies.
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It's all digital, it's actually a company
born into the environment.
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Due to the COVID-19, the changes
that will occur over the years
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are taking place within months.
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We can call this an accelerated change,
a transformation process.
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During this process,
during this accelerated change process,
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can you share with us
the determining factors
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for your company's success?
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Of course. Maybe it would be better
if I started out like this,
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if there are still people who don't know
the truth about Getir
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or who don't know the difference.
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So let me just briefly try to
put it in a couple of sentences.
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We can say that we use it intensely
as the Arıksoy family.
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Thanks, maybe the follow-up
might not know.
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Getir is a mobile phone application
that brings supplies,
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mostly grocery products,
to where you are in just 10 minutes.
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It was born like this.
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Subsequently, it was an application
that brought the foods
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between 20-25 minutes in its own category.
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So we had an app that showed you
the dish, showed you the picture,
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showed the courier coming in,
and came straight to you.
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In doing so, he did this
as a technology company,
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not as a technology-assisted company.
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We consider ourselves as a
70 percent technology, 20 percent retail,
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and now we can say food and carboy,
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and 10 percent logistics company.
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What has the pandemic changed
in our lives?
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Getir is already a leading company
in the field.
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It's not like there was
a company like Getir
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in the world and we copied it.
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It's like...
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This is usually what happens in Turkey;
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a model operates abroad,
then becomes a hit,
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often cloned in Turkey
or in our geography.
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It's called cloning.
That's a Turkish replica of that business.
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Getir is first in the world.
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No other firm before Getir
dreamed of bringing in goods
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in 10 minutes.
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When we first shared this idea
with our partners,
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they said, "It's enough for us if it came
the next day,
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in hours, or 45 minutes."
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And we said;
it's "almost now" in English.
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We want to create an emotion that gives
the feeling of "almost now."
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They asked if we asked
the customers and the consumers.
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We said "no, no need to do that."
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If iPhone asked the customers whether
the new phone should be a dial-free phone,
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they'd probably say,
"no, I'm happy with my BlackBerry,"
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there was Nokia that time,
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or "I'm happy with my Nokia."
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I actually have
15 years of FMCG experience
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in brand management and marketing.
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My life has been about telling Turkey,
the region, and the world
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why something is wrong
with consumer tests.
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But I didn't want to test the Getir model.
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Because there are three main founders;
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Nazım Salur, Serkan Borançılı and I.
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It was a model that
all three of us believed in,
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and we were born as a "pure tech" company.
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What happened with COVID?
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Getir was ahead of its time, as I said.
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And while we were going ahead of our time,
COVID-19 made it...
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"Yes, it's really important.
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Why would I go to the store,
and take risks?
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The product should come to me,
there's a curfew anyway."
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There were a lot of people
who couldn't get out.
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Over 65, under 20,
then it's went down to 18.
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There were some people
with chronic diseases,
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they shouldn't be out there.
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Suddenly, Getir was a necessity.
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As you said,
it seemed like a futuristic idea,
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and suddenly it became
one of the basic needs of life.
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Very successful, in fact, the most
important feature of an entrepreneur is
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to invest in
or take initiative on these issues
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based on his/her feelings.
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It's a situation where there are people
who don't believe in it,
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and many entrepreneurs
face it from time to time.
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Of course, the success
you have accomplished
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has been a remarkable achievement.
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As you mentioned,
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it is common for an application
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to be cloned from a foreign country
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to Turkey.
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Doing something undone
seems like an extra success.
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Of course, with COVID,
other concepts have come into our lives.
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And we can say that with the COVID,
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we have this new normal
concept in our lives.
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Of course, that term,
what is new normal in Turkey,
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what was the old normal,
how close they were,
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or how far; these questions are debatable.
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But there's this new normal
concept in the world.
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What do you think it is?
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What are your insights on technologies
that will support your business processes
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during this period?
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It's actually...
It's not like there was the "old normal",
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and after COVID-19,
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we've gone to the "new normal".
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It's actually a new normal every day.
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If I remember correctly, the first case
in Turkey was on March 11.
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The axis of work has changed
every day since March 11.
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What's going on here is this:
People's feelings change every day.
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So, first of all, after the first case,
the number of cases grew.
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Then they stopped at a rate.
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We started to watch the world.
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After that, unfortunately,
deaths began to occur.
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We suddenly started to get used
to the deaths.
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We get happy if we see
that it's 20 or under it,
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but when we had the first loss,
we were deeply shaken as Turkey.
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There were curfews,
there were restrictions,
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we had supply problems.
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We worked in the office
for three to four days,
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from the 11th of which,
I believe, Tuesday,
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we were at the office until Thursday,
when we closed the office Thursday,
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it should be March 13.
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We sent chairs to their homes,
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so that they can work comfortably,
so they can work the way they're used to.
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Then, like early June, there was
a return to the offices again.
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So I'm in the office right now,
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and we're back in the offices
with a masked life,
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and I'm not wearing one because
there's nobody around me now.
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So we're going through a lot of stuff like
that 1.5 meter rule right now.
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There's 450 people
in the company, the office.
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We want 100 to 150 people to come.
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Services are arranged according to them.
We change many things day by day.
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That's why we can't talk about one normal.
We're talking about the second wave.
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It's been talked a lot about
in news programs, everywhere.
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We hear it so much that
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my ears are about to bleed.
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Second wave, this, that.
But it's coming.
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We actually live a "new normal,"
every day, sometimes hourly.
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Because it is very important
to count seconds for a company
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that operates within 10 minutes.
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We are a company that counts
seconds, minutes and hours.
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We can launch a campaign within hours,
close and open a service.
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We react so quickly.
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There's no definite definition
for "new normal,"
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but like I said,
we thought it'd take longer,
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home delivery came right into our lives
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with Getir and its 10-minute deliveries.
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Right. Getir really is
a technology company.
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It was about 10 years ago, and I said,
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during a keynote presentation,
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it looked a little bit
more utopic for that day,
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"All companies will be
technology companies."
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And in the audience were pharmaceutical
companies, chemical companies, banks,
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energy companies, technology companies,
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different portfolios,
different profiles, industry companies.
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Indeed, companies have become
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technology companies
in the following 10-year period.
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Because companies that use
some of the emerging technologies
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that make sense of data,
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such as artificial intelligence,
artificial vision, image processing,
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or blockchain, have taken the right step
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towards becoming
real technology companies.
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How do you see the benefits
that new technologies,
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including artificial intelligence,
artificial vision, image processing,
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the Internet of things, can bring
to your industry in the new era?
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Would you share these with us
if you have examples?
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Right, well, at first, software is
very important as a technology company.
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You code something,
that coding is very important,
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and it's important that
the machine self-manages
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when it's encoded and the starts to work.
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So here's the thing,
of course, you know it,
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let me try and explain
that for the viewers.
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After you created a code, you create
an algorithm with that code's data,
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and instead of the people who coded,
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it starts to make decisions.
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Our job is actually very expensive.
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Why is it?
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I was talking to someone
from abroad today,
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through teleconference.
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"What is the essence of your work,"
he asked, he didn't know about Getir,
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he hasn't been in Turkey in a long time.
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I said the essence of our work is that...
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Let me just give you
an example from Istanbul.
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We're in six cities now,
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but we have
150 small warehouses in Istanbul.
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What that means is,
when you open up the application,
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I'm actually showing you
a stockpile of a warehouse
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that I can get to in a 10-minute circle.
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So, after getting information from data,
"what will I suggest to you,
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what will I do a discount,
what will I show as a campaign,
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who's going to buy that same product,
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which kind of information
I'll give to that store,
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where I'm going to set up that warehouse";
I collect these types of information,
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and the system starts to self order
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and make its own decisions and suggest,
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how many couriers will be in a warehouse.
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This is the element in our business.
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What we're doing,
what we're dealing with a lot,
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one of the things that
we're most interested in
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during this period is
the safety of our couriers.
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There are approximately
4 thousand couriers in the system,
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we have 4 thousand couriers
through our dealers.
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For the safety of these couriers,
we're following from their mobile phone
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how much they use their motorcycles,
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how long the braking time is,
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how fast they're going,
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each and every one of them.
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And here we are a start-up,
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but we're slowly
beginning to be a skill-up.
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We're a scaled company right now.
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We're working with a start-up,
which is smaller than we are.
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Because I need this
technology development.
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So instead of actually going out
and checking out friends in the field,
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we do that from the panel,
we go there when we need to
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and have our one-to-one conversations.
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We say, "You speed up here,
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you made a wrong turn here,
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that's why, this is your score."
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If somebody is constantly going bad,
we tell them farewell.
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We weren't selling red meat
and white meat before the pandemic.
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And then they got asked and searched
and we started selling them.
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These are products that require
great attention for shelf life.
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We have them
in our cabinets at +4 degrees,
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constantly looking at the BBD control.
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But we thought we have to make sure that
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the warmth of our cabinets
is constantly clear.
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So we started a project.
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Right now, inside all our cabinets
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which we have about two thousand
+4 degrees cabinets.
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We put heat sensors
in two thousand cabinets.
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We track how long
did those cabinets stay open
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or stay closed,
or if there are sudden fluctuations.
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These are actually two of
the biggest examples right now;
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we get the motorcycle
and the vehicle to talk to me,
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and the cabinets to talk to me.
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We're not just
developing technology for nothing.
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We're developing if we really need it.
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What we did was; we actually took
the "digital tip" into our system.
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Because people don't have
much cash anymore,
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they don't want to hold the cash.
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Our technology department,
software developers
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activated the digital tip
in about five days.
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We're always listening to the client;
we didn't at first,
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but after we got it out,
we're listening to the client now.
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We look at what we need.
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Delivery at the door
became a great necessity.
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We started delivering
while the door is closed.
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We did that development.
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We started something
called the "loyalty box."
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We've been involved
in this project together
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with Istanbul Governor's Office.
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So we started building
tape systems in our central storage.
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But after we started this tape system,
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our central structures got so big,
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we begin to go in end-to-end tape.
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The product will be placed at one end;
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we're now moving to a self-assembly system
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to get the product to a small warehouse.
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If you don't stop me, I'll keep
telling you more, so I'll cut it here.
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We'd like to hear everything on your mind.
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So, let me summarize,
whatever the business requires,
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we're trying to find an answer to that
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with technological developments.
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Since we have a software team inside,
we are able to work at this speed.
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As our business is fast,
our team needs to be very fast, too.
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I have a question under a head title.
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Since you are part of an
online shopping application
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and a service,
you keep the inventory instant.
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If the product is in stock
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and is available for purchase,
someone buys it,
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and as of the time they buy it, you drop
the product from your inventory.
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But there are different regions
in Istanbul.
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I am sure that different products
are sold more in different regions
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or there is a need for more.
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It's true.
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An optimization for this;
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because doing this with the optimization
and different methods
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are one of the most fundamental things.
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It can be important to
improve customer service
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and improve productivity
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in the back.
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Can you say anything about that?
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That's right.
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It surprises me. "Cigkofte", for instance.
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That's one of the products we sell.
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For some reason, it is consumed more in
Küçükçekmece, Büyükçekmece and Beylikdüzü
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compared to other places.
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Litre of coke is consumed more, too.
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While 6*250 milliliter cans of coke
are consumed by Beşiktaş,
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they consume bigger ones.
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What are we doing now;
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We try to not break the
overall portfolio experience at Getir.
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It's not like Küçükçekmece
has one litre bottles,
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and Beşiktaş doesn't. Both sides have it.
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But as you mentioned just now,
I'm adjusting the numbers.
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While I hold 2 liters of coke and 8 pieces
of 250 milliliter cokes in Beşiktaş,
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I keep 8 liters in Küçükçekmece
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and I keep the stock quantity
of the "Cigkofte" there higher.
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I'm managing it, of course.
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We're trying not to say
"it's out" to our customers.
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One of the most important things
of retail is
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not to say no to the customer
who comes to the store,
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whether it is "online" or "offline".
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It's important to manage it well.
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What Getir is going to do next?
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Would it be possible for you to tell us
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a few sentences about what you will do?
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I can say that we'll have surprises.
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We won't stay in the same place.
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We're working on new services.
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Although it is currently changing
on the basis of region and city,
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someone who opens the
Getir application sees 4 tabs.
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One is Getir, the others are;
GetirYemek, GetirBüyük, and GetirSu.
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"Yemek" (Food) and "Su" (Water) are currently
not available in cities outside Istanbul.
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We have very expansion goals
in these three and in GetirBüyük.
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We're have goals to
greatly expand these three.
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We're going to operate in new verticals,
we're working on it.
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Getir has over 2 million customers.
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It's actually pretty big.
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If a product is found on Getir,
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it means 100% availability for that city.
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Today, I cover approximately
98% of Istanbul, as a population,
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it actually means 98% of it exists.
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I mean,
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since I have a history of
old consumer products,
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it is extremely difficult to
put a product on the shelf
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and make it available.
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40-50% availability is good,
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70-80's is very good,
90 and above is perfect.
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There are over 20 thousand
grocery stores in Istanbul,
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and there are lots of supermarkets.
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You have to be in 18 thousand grocery
stores to ensure that 90% availability.
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However, I am a company
that provides 100% availability
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to that product owner thanks to Getir.
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Right, really successful.
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Mr. Tuncay,
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thank you very much
for your time at re:retail.
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As you mentioned,
especially in this process,
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the business world is experiencing
a really serious transformation
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that we are all witnessing.
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Getir is really one of the important
players of this transformation.
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On behalf of myself and of the viewers,
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I thank you
for the information you provided
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and the topics you shared that
may be of interest to everyone.
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You're welcome.
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Yes, on the one hand, we turned
to a public business, as I said.
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"Loyalty Box"...
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It's also very successful.
Thanks for that, too.
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Thank you, we have special services
for people over 65 years old.
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We made a cooperation with Turkcell.
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For the first time,
we received orders by phone,
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we made discounts for doctors
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and healthcare professionals,
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and over the age of 65;
and made special campaigns for them.
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Cast one's bread upon the waters.
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but there was
a public service expectation.
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A responsibility was entrusted to us.
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We tried to pull it off, let me say so.
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I am proud to do this job
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with Turkish companies
and Turkish software developers.
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We are happy to serve
our people in this process.
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We thank you very much
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for all these things you do
and the services you provide.
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Thank you.