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What investigating neural pathways can reveal about mental health

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    I'm going to start by saying something
    you think you know to be true.
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    Your brain creates
    all facets of your mind.
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    So then why do we treat
    mental and physical illnesses
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    so differently,
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    if we think we know
    that the mind comes from the brain?
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    As a neuroscientist, I'm often told
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    that I'm not allowed to study
    how internal states
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    like anxiety or craving or loneliness
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    are represented by the brain,
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    and so I decided to set out
    and do exactly that.
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    My research program is designed
    to understand the mind
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    by investigating brain circuits.
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    Specifically, how does our brain
    give rise to emotion.
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    It's really hard to study
    feelings and emotions,
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    because you can't measure them.
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    Behavior is still the best and only window
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    into the emotional experience of another.
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    For both animals and people,
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    yes, self-report is a behavioral output.
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    Motivated behaviors
    fall into two general classes:
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    seeking pleasure and avoiding pain.
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    The ability to approach things
    that are good for you
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    and avoid things that are bad for you
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    is fundamental to survival.
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    And in our modern-day society,
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    trouble telling the difference
    can be labeled as a mental illness.
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    If I was having car trouble,
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    and I took my car to the mechanic,
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    the first thing they do
    is look under the hood.
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    But with mental health research,
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    you can't just pop open the hood
    with the press of a button.
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    So this is why we do
    experiments on animals.
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    Specifically, in my lab, mice.
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    To understand the brain, well,
    we need to study brains.
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    And for the first time, we actually can.
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    We can pop open the hood.
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    We can look inside
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    and do an experiment
    and see what comes out.
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    Technology has opened new windows
    into the black box that is our minds.
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    The development of optogenetic tools
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    has allowed us unprecedented control
    over specific neurons in the brain
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    and how they talk to each other
    by firing electrical signals.
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    We can genetically engineer neurons
    to be light sensitive
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    and then use light to control
    how neurons fire.
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    This can change an animal's behavior,
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    giving us insight
    into what that neural circuit can do.
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    Want to know how scientists
    figure this out?
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    Scientists developed optogenetic tools
    by borrowing knowledge
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    from other basic science fields.
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    Algae are single-celled organisms
    that have evolved to swim towards light.
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    And when blue light shines
    onto the eyespot of an algae cell,
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    a channel opens,
    sending an electrical signal
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    that makes little flagella flap
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    and propels the algae towards sunlight.
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    If we clone this light-sensitive
    part of the algae
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    and then add it to neurons
    through genetic modification,
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    we can make neurons light-sensitive, too.
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    Except, with neurons,
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    when we shine light down
    an optical fiber deep into the brain,
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    we change how they send electrical signals
    to other neurons in the brain
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    and thus change the animal's behavior.
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    With the help of my colleagues,
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    I pioneered the use of optogenetic tools
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    to selectively target neurons
    that are living in point A,
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    sending messages down wires
    aimed at point B,
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    leaving neighboring neurons
    going other places unaffected.
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    This approach allowed us to test
    the function of each wire
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    within the tangled mess that is our brain.
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    A brain region called the amygdala
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    has long been thought
    to be important for emotion,
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    and my laboratory discovered
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    that the amygdala
    resembles a fork in the road
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    where activating one path
    can drive positive emotion and approach,
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    and activating another path
    can drive negative emotion and avoidance.
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    I'm going to show you
    a couple of examples --
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    a taste of raw data --
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    of how we can use optogenetics
    to target specific neurons in the brain
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    and get very specific changes in behavior.
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    Anxiety patients
    have abnormal communication
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    between two parts of the amygdala,
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    but in people, it's hard to know
    if this abnormality is cause or effect
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    of the disease.
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    We can use optogenetics
    to target the same pathway in a mouse,
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    and see what happens.
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    So this is the elevated plus maze.
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    It's a widely used anxiety test
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    that measures the amount of time
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    that the mouse spends in the safety
    of the closed arms
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    relative to exploring the open arms.
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    Mice have evolved to prefer
    enclosed spaces,
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    like the safety of their burrows,
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    but to find food, water, mates,
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    they need to go out into the open
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    where they're more vulnerable
    to predatory threats.
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    So I'm sitting in the background here,
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    and I'm about to flip the switch.
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    And now, when I flip the switch
    and turn the light on,
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    you can see the mouse begins to explore
    the open arms of the maze more.
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    And in contrast
    to drug treatments for anxiety,
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    there's no sedation,
    no locomotor impairment,
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    just coordinated,
    natural-looking exploration.
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    So not only is the effect
    almost immediate,
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    but there are no detectable side effects.
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    Now, when I flip the switch off,
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    you can see that the mouse goes back
    to its normal brain function
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    and back to its corner.
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    When I was in the lab
    and I was taking these data,
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    I was all by myself, and I was so excited.
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    I was so excited,
    I did one of these quiet screams.
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    (Silently) Aah!
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    (Laughter)
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    Why was I so excited?
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    I mean, yeah, theoretically,
    I knew that the brain controlled the mind,
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    but to flip the switch with my hand
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    and see the mouse
    change its behavioral state
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    so rapidly and so reversibly,
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    it was really the first time
    that I truly believed it.
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    Since that first breakthrough,
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    there have been a number
    of other discoveries.
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    Finding specific neural circuits
    that can elicit dramatic changes
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    in animal behavior.
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    Here's another example:
    compulsive overeating.
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    We can eat for two reasons.
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    Seeking pleasure, like tasty food,
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    or avoiding pain, like being hungry.
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    How can we find a treatment
    for compulsive overeating
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    without messing up
    the hunger-driven feeding
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    that we need to survive?
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    The first step is to understand
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    how the brain gives rise
    to feeding behavior.
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    This fully-fed mouse
    is just exploring a space
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    completely devoid of any food.
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    Here we're using optogenetics to target
    neurons living in the hypothalamus,
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    sending messages down wires
    aimed at the midbrain.
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    When I turn the light on, right here,
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    you can see that the mouse
    immediately begins licking the floor.
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    (Laughter)
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    This seemingly frenzied behavior
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    is about to escalate into something
    I find really incredible.
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    It's kind of trippy, actually.
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    Ready?
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    It's right here.
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    See, he picks up his hands
    as if he is eating a piece of food,
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    but there's nothing there,
    he's not holding anything.
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    So this circuit is sufficient
    to drive feeding behavior
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    in the absence of hunger,
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    even in the absence of food.
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    I can't know for sure
    how this mouse is feeling,
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    but I speculate
    these neurons drive craving
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    based on the behaviors we elicit
    when we target this pathway.
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    Turn the light back off --
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    animal's back to normal.
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    When we silence this pathway,
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    we can suppress and reduce
    compulsive overeating
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    without altering hunger-driven feeding.
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    What did you take away
    from these two videos
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    that I just showed you?
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    That making a very specific change
    to neural circuits in the brain
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    can have specific changes to behavior.
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    That every conscious
    experience that we have
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    is governed by cells in our brain.
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    I am the daughter
    of a physicist and a biologist,
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    who literally met on the boat
    coming to America
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    in pursuit of an education.
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    So naturally,
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    since there was "no pressure"
    to be a scientist ...
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    (Laughter)
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    as a college student,
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    I had to decide whether I wanted to focus
    on psychology, the study of the mind,
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    or neuroscience, the study of the brain.
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    And I chose neuroscience,
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    because I wanted to understand
    how the mind is born
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    out of biological tissue.
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    But really, I've come
    full circle to do both.
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    And now my research program
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    bridges the gap between
    the mind and the brain.
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    Research from my laboratory
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    suggests that we can begin
    to tie specific neural circuits
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    to emotional states.
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    And we have found a number of circuits
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    that control anxiety-related behavior,
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    compulsive overeating,
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    social interaction, avoidance
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    and many other types
    of motivated behaviors
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    that may reflect internal
    emotional states.
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    We used to think of functions of the mind
    as being defined by brain regions.
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    But my work shows
    that within a given brain region,
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    there are many different neurons
    doing different things.
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    And these functions
    are partly defined by the paths they take.
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    Here's a metaphor to help illustrate
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    how these discoveries change the way
    that we think about the brain.
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    Let's say that the brain
    is analogous to the world
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    and that neurons are analogous to people.
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    And we want to understand how information
    is transmitted across the planet.
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    Sure, it's useful to know
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    where a given person is located
    when recording what they're saying.
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    But I would argue
    that it's equally important
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    to know who this person is talking to,
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    who is listening
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    and how the people listening respond
    to the information that they receive.
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    The current state
    of mental health treatment
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    is essentially a strategy
    of trial and error.
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    And it is not working.
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    The development of new drug therapies
    for mental health disorders
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    has hit a brick wall,
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    with scarcely any real progress
    since the 1950s.
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    So what does the future hold?
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    In the near future,
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    I expect to see a mental health
    treatment revolution,
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    where we focus on specific
    neural circuits in the brain.
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    Diagnoses will be made
    based on both behavioral symptoms
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    and measurable brain activity.
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    Further in the future,
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    by combining our ability
    to make acute changes to the brain
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    and get acute changes to behavior
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    with our knowledge of synaptic plasticity
    to make more permanent changes,
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    we could push the brain
    into a state of fixing itself
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    by reprogramming neural circuits.
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    Exposure therapy at the circuit level.
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    Once we switch the brain
    into a state of self-healing,
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    this could potentially have
    long-lasting effects
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    with no side effects.
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    I can envision a future
    where neural circuit reprogramming
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    represents a potential cure,
    not just a treatment.
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    OK, but what about right now?
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    If from this very moment forward,
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    each and every one of you left this talk
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    and truly believed that the mind
    comes entirely from cells in your brain,
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    then we could immediately get rid
    of negative perceptions and stigmas
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    that prevent so many people
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    from getting the mental health
    support that they need.
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    Mental health professionals,
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    we're always thinking
    about what's the next new treatment.
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    But before we can apply new treatments,
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    we need people to feel
    comfortable seeking them.
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    Imagine how dramatically
    we could reduce the rates of suicides
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    and school shootings
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    if everyone who needed
    mental health support actually got it.
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    When we truly understand
    exactly how the mind comes from the brain,
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    we will improve the lives of everyone
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    who will have a mental illness
    in their lifetime --
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    half the population --
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    as well as everyone else
    with whom they share the world.
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    Thank you.
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    (Applause)
Title:
What investigating neural pathways can reveal about mental health
Speaker:
Kay Tye
Description:

Neuroscientist Kay M. Tye investigates how your brain gives rise to complex emotional states like depression, anxiety or loneliness. From the cutting edge of science, she shares her latest findings -- including the development of a tool that uses light to activate specific neurons and create dramatic behavioral changes in mice. Learn how these discoveries could change the way you think about your mind -- and possibly uncover effective treatments for mental disorders.

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Video Language:
English
Team:
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Project:
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Duration:
12:59

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